by Christos Stremmenos
Oltre al breve rapporto su una delle tante ricerche riguardanti i processi di interazione nei sistemi idrogeno/deuterio-metalli di transizione, nell’articolo viene valutata l’esistenza e la natura dei vari inattesi effetti sporadicamente osservati. Vengono inoltre attribuite alla complessità del fenomeno, le cause principali della non riproducibilità di questi effetti e si discutono possibili interventi di carattere sperimentale che rimuoverebbero le incertezze strutturali, sia statiche sia dinamiche, del sistema.
Giuseppe:
Thank you for your attention. We are continuing the long term third indipendent party experiment and the results, positive or negative as they might be, will be published on a scientific magazine. I cannot give any specific information before this work, along with the R&D activity, will not have been completed.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi, I had been very interested on your work on Cold nuclear fusion since 2 /3 years ago. Periodically I check on this site hoping to find good news on your progress in general and particularly on the moment when you will put on trade your devices,
Regretfully, lately I have seen diminished interested by the people that usually asked you informations e gave you some clues or advice on the subject. I still belleve in what you are doing and I believe the world strongly needs it.
Can you give me a picture of the real state of work nowadays?
I will be very grateful for that!
Thanks in advance. I wish you the best achievements
Giuseppe
Alexander:
The domestic E-Cats are not yet for sale.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi I much wanted to buy your e-cat power 10 kwt to itself on datcha, since in Russia often disconnect the electricity. but I do not know where addresses to do the order. respectfully yours Alexander Shadrin.
Paul Calvo:
Thanks, interesting,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Dr Rossi, what do you make of this new patent application for LENR – “heat-to-electricity conversion” – the claim is the system and method generate electric power from relatively low temperature energy sources at efficiency levels not previously available.
Patent Link: https://www.google.com/patents/WO2013170244A2
Regards,
Paul Calvo
Dear Gerard:
We are designing micro cats, yes, and some micro models are working, but I foresee for them the same difficulties of certification we got for the domestic units.
The tech is possible, though.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Caro Andrea,
Heartfelt congratulations on the publication of the Third Party report.
The myriad of potential applications of your amazing technology has boggled my mind! What if a device needs much less voltage – Are you yet developing a Micro-cat?
Best regards,
Gerard
Dear Ingmar Andersson:
1- there are not precise parameters, but good sense will say when enough working toime of industrial plants will have supplied statistic reliability
2- see point 1
3- all the data coming from all the working modules will be useful to make up statistics
4- very difficult to say
I hope to deliver an E-Cat to heat your house, but if, as your name suggests, you are Swedish, maybe we will heat up your house with a centralized plant too.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi.
1. What parameters have you been requested to provide for the certification of the domestic version of the E-cat.
2. How many hours of data collection has it been asked for?
3. Can data be collected by many industrial E-cats working at the same time, or is a continuous measurement from a single reactor required?
4. How long time, months, years, do you expect needed for this data collection.
I wish you success also in future and hope to have an E-cat heating my home in two or three years!!
Ingmar Andersson
Ho il piacere di segnalare il sito web:
nuovenergienellascuola.org
Si tratta di un Progetto web ideato da Luciano Saporito, e di supporto al convegno:
“Nuove Energie Nella Scuola”.
(Organizzato in Collaborazione con l’ ISPRA)
Che si terrà martedì 4 Dicembre 2012
Dalle Ore 9,00 Alle ore 13,30
Presso l ‘ IIS Leopoldo Pirelli
V. Rocca Di Papa 113
00.179 Roma
Il convegno: “Nuove Energie Nella Scuola”, e il sito web: nuovenergienellascuola.org
Sono dedicati in particolare al Progetto di un reattore a “Fusione Fredda”: l’ “Hydrobetatron”, del Prof. Ugo Abundo e Collaboratori, e alle LENR in generale, ecc.
Il journal-of-nuclear-physics.com è segnalato Tra i siti amici, di nuovenergienellascuola.org
Panel del convegno:
01. Introduzione alle attività promosse dall’Istituto negli anni passati (in particolare,
l’impianto solare per l’estrazione di acqua potabile dall’atmosfera costruito dagli
allievi del Pirelli e donato ad una scuola in Congo)
01. Benvenuto del Dirigente IIS L. Pirelli
02. Saluto delle autorità ministeriali
03. Presentazione del piano dei lavori
04. Relazioni e/o video-interviste:
Emilio Del Giudice – il quadro teorico delle LENR
Francesco Celani – il quadro sperimentale
Antonella De Ninno – l’esperienza all’ENEA sulla produzione di elio
Allan Widom – la teoria della cooperazione elettronica
Yogendra Srivastava – prospettive sperimentali per le migliori
condizioni di reazione
Domenico Cirillo – evidenze di emissione neutronica e di
trasmutazioni
05. Dott. L. Magro (ISPRA) – ipotesi di rilevazioni selettive di traccianti per le LENR
06. presentazione, da parte degli alunni Pirelli, delle attività di questo anno
scolastico
07. presentazione dei filmati relativi alla documentazione della raggiunta
OVERUNITY
08. associazione “All Rights”, criteri di impostazione per uno studio sull’impatto
ambientale (e sull’uomo) delle nuove tecniche di produzione energetica
09. presentazione dei risultati della più recente campagna sperimentale
010. illustrazione del funzionamento LIVE in sala convegni (ovviamente con
riscaldamento elettrico e non a LENR) della apparecchiatura costruita da
settembre a novembre nel Pirelli per le misurazioni energetiche di resa delle
LENR
011. presentazione di un’analogia tra rete neurale artificiale e struttura dello spazio
fisico per pervenire a un modello quantistico di orientamento per la guida della
prosecuzione delle ricerche
012. esordio del sito web ufficiale ove seguire i progressi della sperimentazione
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Dear advisor, participants in the debate,
Dear Luciano Saporito, Dear Mr. Andrea Rossi. I believed in the project from the beginning and i follow it for a long time now. I hope that the world can enjoy this sensational discovery and that we can finally write the story, this tremendous milestone. All this thanks to a special type of men who have never ceased to “dream” a new world, and easier to live.
I wish that the next generations,he turned back to look at this historical moment, unable to forget the past one hundred years, and greedy men that have stifled these findings, and recalling only men like A. Rossi, prof. Focardi, and before: N.Tesla, M. Fleischmann and S. Pons.
Grazie.
Alessandro Sicuro
http://alessandrosicurocomunication.wordpress.com
http://www.alessandrosicuro.com
Intervista a Aldo Proia,direttore e amministratore delegato della Prometeon s.r.l.
La nuova sorprendente tecnologia energetica denominata
“E-Cat”
potrebbe generare: energia economica, inesauribile e pulita!
nuovi posti di lavoro, benessere e prosperità per i Popoli, e salvaguardia del pianeta Terra
sapranno il Nostro Paese e il Mondo intero, approfittare e valorizzare questa grande opportunità?
a cura di: Luciano Saporito
link:
http://alessandrosicurocomunication.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/intervista-a-aldo-proiadirettore-e-amministratore-delegato-della-prometeon-s-r-l/
Dear “The Plumber”:
Yes, the Hot cat is becomeng by the day more important. We will remain in the industrial applications, until the domestic ones will have been certificated. Sincerely, I think that the Hot Cats will never be approved for domestic utilization, not in the middle term for sure.
Besides, to make electric power with the Hot Cats will make necessary the application of all the components of the Carnot cycle, which is possible only in applications with at least 1 MW of power.
For domestic applications we are waiting the certification of the low temperature E-Cats
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sorry if you already answered this one. The hot cat technology appears better than everything before it. Will the domestic version use the same Tech scaled down? My hopes are for many cheap heat sorces rather than a few expensive ones. Thanks, Rick.
“E-Cat”
La nuova e sorprendente tecnologia energetica chiamata: “E-Cat” (Energy Catalyzer), inventata dall’ Ing. Andrea Rossi, sara’ molto utile all’Umanita’.
Considerata la situazione dell’ economia mondiale, in generale, la cui “crescita”, e anche la sua stessa sopravvivenza, sono penalizzate e a rischio, a causa dei costi sempre crescenti dell’ energia ottenuta da combustibili fossili,(anche conseguente al loro prossimo esaurimento); e considerato il grave stato di inquinamento in cui versa il pianeta Terra, dovuto anche al riscaldamento globale in atto, conseguenza dell’ uso dei combustibili di origine fossile, e alla immissione inevitabile di CO2 nell’ atmosfera; dobbiamo al più presto creare alternative energetiche pulite! La tecnologia energetica E-Cat promette energia economica, pressoché illimitata e pulita… Una risposta anche alla povertà dei Popoli e una speranza concreta di prosperità per tutti Noi, e anche per il futuro e la sopravvivenza del pianeta Terra! Ma le difficoltà non mancheranno… Se è vero che nel 1989 la ricerca pionieristica sulla “Fusione Fredda” LENR, di Fleischmann e Pons, come è ora noto a tutti, fu insabbiata…
Articolo completo al seguente link:
http://www.nexusedizioni.it/apri/Argomenti/Scienza-del-futuro/L-ECAT-RIVOLUZIONERA-IL-MONDO/
Dear Dr Joseph Fine:
Yes, “New Fire” is part of our trade mark , as well as “E-Cat” in all versions. But I cannot forbid the generic use of new fire, because it is a common definition. Obviously, it cannot be used to name a product in the categoties of products for which we have registered the trademark.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi, Readers,
According to E-CatWorld, a new organization honoring Martin Fleischmann has set up a website called ‘quantumheat’. See, http://www.quantumheat.org/
They are calling the recent developments in LENR “New Fire”.
As I recall, “New Fire” is your term. I don’t want to make trouble, but is this being done with your knowledge and approval?
I hope this can be worked out in a friendly manner.
Best regards,
Joseph Fine
Dear Caroly Witkowsky:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Thank you very much for this very interesting site that I visit frequently to refresh my mind. Since I am an assistant professor in Theoretical Physics I find the treatises on advanced physical concepts particularly interesting. With many of them at first when you read them they make you very surprised and then they make you think. It would not surprise me if one day one of these articles will render its author one of the finest of recognitions, e. g. Nobel Prize.
But even more I want to thank you for the generosity with which you share your heroic labor to develop a clean inexhaustible source of energy for the future betterment of mankind, and I think that the staggering progress that you continue to make is a great source of hope. Please keep the good work up!
Optimistic regards, Caroly Witkowsky
Dear Luca Salvarani:
1- you are right
2- they are two different purposes
3- very difficult, for certification levels
Warm Regards,
A.R.
This is the translation of my previous comment:
Dear Andrea,
1) First of all let me congratulete for your great effort in the hot cat development. Of course I wish to know as much as possible about your work but I understand your choise to disclose only selected information in due time. If you disclose more there will be further questions, doubts, polemics an so on that would force you to spend even more time on this chatters rather than on the real e-cat development…
2) I’m not an expert in the energy field but the hot cat, even not completely developed so far, seems to me a far superior product in next to the other industrial e-cats. It seems a real “next generation” device! So I’m wondering its impact on the sale of already developed e-cats: why an industrial client should invest in them while they can soon invest in a far superior product? Maybe they have different caracteristics and different use…
3) Is seems that the domestic e-cat will be available at least two years from now due to tighter certification and authorization processes, so I’m wondering if they can incorporate the new thchnologies that you have been already developing for the industrial e-cats or even the hot-cats, in particular the double heat-electricity production and the selfpropulsion through its self produced electricity… or these improvements are really too complex/too expensive for a domestic unit?
Thank you very much again and break a leg!
Deaer Luca Salvarani:
Please the next time write in English: it will be really appreciated.
Answers:
1- exactly: the more I give, the more they want
2- the E-Cats have different fitness respect the hot cat: both have pros and cons
3- we have to wait for the work of the certificators before talk of the characteristics of the domestid E-Cat
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mario Ricci:
I will be very happy to help the Sardinian workers, as soon as we will be able to produce electricity. I am well aware of the problems of that wonderful people.
Andrea Rossi
AR Buongiorno!
Surely you must be aware of our Sardinian aluminium plant losing market (to Saudi aluminium plant) owing to high energy costs.
Any possibilities of seeing your industrial version e-cat powering such aluminium energy-guzzlers?
Mario Ricci – Viareggio
Caro Andrea,
1) Per cominciare complimenti per il gran lavoro che sta facendo sull’hot cat! Ovviamente chi la segue fin dall’inizio come me vorrebbe sempre sapere tutto e subito, ma mi rendo conto che questo non è possibile e che bisogna aspettare i tempi giusti, e forse è anche meglio cosi, comunque poco male dato che manca davvero poco! Molti vorrebbero una maggiore discolure ma credo sia impossibile e comunque non desiderabile: più elementi rende pubblici e più ci saranno ulteriori domande, richieste di ulteriori chiarimenti, ulteriori polemiche ecc… il tutto per niente poi! molto meglio dare informazioni essenziali come sta facendo e aspettare i reports conclusivi e, meglio ancora, le prime installazioni vere e proprie! A quel punto non ci sarà più da spaccare il cappello in 4 come oggi: i fatti parleranno da soli!
2) Non essendo un esperto in campo energetico vorrei chiederle una cosa, sperando di non fare una domanda stupida: da quello che sono riuscito a capire (magari sbaglio) l’hot cat è ancora in fase di ricerca e sviluppo e il suo completamento, pur se non immediato, non dovrebbe comunque richiedere troppo tempo…. sembra già da ora che una volta ultimato, avrà delle performance di gran lunga superiori agli e-cat tradizionali! Mi sembra insomma un prodotto di una generazione successiva rispetto agli e-cat industriali tuttora disponibili… Se davvero fosse cosi, ammesso che lo sia, sarebbe ragionevole che gli acquirenti industriali attendano il completamento dell’hot cat piuttosto che installare gli e-cat industriali, oppure sono prodotti diversi con usi diversi?
3) Ultima domanda, alla quale forse non è possibile rispondere in questo momento: dato che gli e-cat domestici arriveranno come minimo tra 2 anni, quindi dopo un pieno sviluppo degli hot cats: è possibile che inglobino le tecnologie che sta sviluppando per gli e-cats industriali o addirittura quelle dell’hot cat? in particolare la doppia produzione calore-energia e l’autopropulsione (tramite reindirizzamento dell’energia elettrica prodotta) e la pastriglia d’idrogeno… oppure tutto questo è troppo difficile/troppo costoso da fare a livello di singolo e-cat domestico? In sostanza saranno e-cat domestici diversi da quelli originariamente concepiti, dato che la regolamentazione ne ha ritardato l’ingresso sul mercato?
Non ho tradotto in inglese perchè tanto tutti usano la funzione di traduzione di google, ma se me lo chiede lei lo farò.
Grazie delle risposte e un grosso in bocca al lupo!
Dear Greg Leonard:
Of course all the pre orders are saved and treasured by us!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear AR
Gio raised the issue of pre-orders.
I made my pre-order via the ECAT.com web-site within a few days of it going on-line
I am concerned that ECAT.com have not updated their web-site since May 14.
Will my pre-order be lost if ECAT.com goes off-line?
Dear Carloluna:
With this configuration we cannot focus the drive energy.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear gio:
1- we are studying this issue
2- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear ing . Rossi
i have read that you acceppt preorders of 1MW e-cat fueled by gas.
Are you working about an home e-cat fueled by gas?
Do you think it’possible to have a bifuel e-cat : gas and electricity?
Warm regards
caro Andrea
Mi permetta un contributo forse ingenuo.
Si immagini una piramide rovesciata fatta di moduli e-cat.
Se un modulo e-cat in azione ha cop 6 come asserito ,dovrebbe essere in grado di accendere altri 6 moduli sovrastanti e questi ne accenderebbero 36
che a loro volta ne accenderebbero 216 .fermiamoci qui.A questo livello l’energia introdotta nel primo modulo sarebbe aumentata di 216 volte sul livello più alto.
A mio avviso un tale dispositivo fugherebbe ogni dubbio circa l’eccesso di calore e sarebbe immediatamente utilizzabile per la produzione di grandi quantità di calore.
Penso che la cosa funzionerebbe anche con la miscela n-h-cat dentro ad un cono rovesciato perché il livello più basso accenderebbe i livelli sovrastanti
To the Readers of the Journal:
Today has been published the interesting article:
Hidden and Intermediate States of Nucleon,
by Eng. UVS Seshavatharam (India) and Prof. S. Lakshminarayana (India)
JONP
Dear Steven N. Karels:
You are right, I agree totally.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear g.Luca from Italy:
Thank you,
A.R.
Dear H.Hansson:
It is exactly what we are doing since 2 months, and will continue to do for the next 2: validation by third parties.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I know how immature persons can release partial or outright lies to attempt to destroy a project. This is hard on you but “fight the good fight” as St. Paul said.
You mentioned an initial production capacity of 100 units per day (1 MW output per day). Assuming 250 production days per year yields 250 MW of heating systems produced per year. A good start.
Recall from my previous posting “If 2,600 GW of capacity of coal-burning power plants are to be replaced, how many Hot eCats will be needed? As shown above, each 1 GigaWatt of electrical output will require 213,000 Hot eCat 10 kW units or 553.8 million Hot eCat 10kW units. The average annual rate (over 23 years) will be around 24 million units. While this seems large, I estimate the production difficulty in producing a Hot eCat is about the same as producing a light bulb. And there are 2 billion light bulbs produced per year.”
The above case would be for Hot eCats. The 24 million per year is about 100,000 units per day or a 1,000 times your initial production capability. It will be interesting to watch your company grow.
Caro A.R.
anche noi non riusciamo più a capire granché di ciò che sta accadendo.
Misure, contromisure, militari, ex militari, aziende svedesi e inglesi, Australiani e chi più ne ha….
Ora spunta una misura volante di un tizio che se ne va prima della completa messa a regime del gatto e che misura non si sa bene cosa e con che cosa (trattandosi di circuito RLC) e che si permette di relazionare e pubblicare?
Continuate senza perdervi d’animo. Le evidenze sono chiare…..indietro non si torna.
Saluti
DEAR READERS:
TODAY A BIG MESS IS POPPED OUT FROM A SHORT MEASUREMENT THAT HAS BEEN DONE THE LAST WEEK. I REALLY HAVE DIFFICULTY TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PERSONS HAVE TOTALLY IGNORED WHAT I CLEARLY SAID IN MY PRELIMINAR STATEMENT IN THE REPORT PRESENTED IN ZURICH: I SAID THAT ALL THE DATA ARE NOT FINAL, THE VALIDATION, THE R&D, THE CERTIFICATION OF THE HIGH TEMPERATURE REACTOR ARE IN COURSE AND THE FINAL REPORT WILL BE RELEASED WITHIN MONTHS. NOW, A GUY COMES HERE (INVITED FROM US) MAKES SOME HOUR OF MEASUREMENT, GOES AWAY AND A WEEK AFTER MAKES A PRESS CONFERENCE LIKE HE HAS MADE A PROCESS OF VALIDATION THAT TAKES MONTHES: DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE? I AM VERY CONFUSED. ANYWAY:
THE EXTERNAL SURFACE OF OUR REACTOR IS 933 CM^2
THE TEMPERATURE WE REACH WHEN IT IS STABLE IS 1050 CELSIUS ON THE EXTERNAL SURFACE. THE GUY IS ESCAPED FROM US BEFORE THE REACTOR REACHED THE DUE TEMPERATURE SAYING HE HAD SEEN ENOUGH ( ENOUGH OF WHAT?).
THE MAX POWER OF THE RESISTANCE IS 8 kW
WITH THESE NUMBERS ONLY, THE ENERGY PRODUCED IS ABOUT 17 kWH/H, WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE ENERGY FROM THE INTERNAL CYLINDER (WHATEVER IT IS), THE CONVECTION ENERGY ( WHICH IS A LOT).
NOW: IN THE NEXT 2 MONTHS WE HAVE TO ARRIVE TO A PRECISE DETERMINATION OF THE MAXIMUM COP, BUT JUST FROM THESE VERY BASIC ANC CONSTANT NUMBERS ( INDIPENDENT FROM THE MEASUREMENTS OF AMPS AND OHMS) WE HAVE A COP AROUND 2.
THE ITER PROGRAM, TO MAKE ENERGY WITH NUCLEAR HOT FUSION, IS COSTED 100 BILLION OF EUROS AND GOT NOT EVEN 1.01 OF COP.
SO, WHAT ?
IN THE FINAL REPORT YOU WILL SEE A LIST OF MANY PROFESSORS AND ENGINEERS WHO ARE MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY MEASUREMENTS FOR MONTHS.
LET ME WORK, AND LET THE TEAM OF PROFESSORS AND ENGINEERS WHO ARE MAKING THE VALIDATION ANDE CERTIFICATION WORK. THIS TIME, ANYWAY, WE GOT FRIENDLY FIRE, IT APPEARS.
ANDREA ROSSI
Dear Bernie Koppenhofer:
Using the outsourcing we can reach good numbers, because what is necessary for us to maintain inside our factory is the production of the core, and we can make up to 100 reawctors per day. In outsourcing we can reach the numbers we want, we have already selected a good number of possible suppliers. The logistics too will be outsourced.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr. Rossi: Sorry for the confusion, I am talking about the low temp E-Cat. How many can you produce in a month?
PS I used the term “warm cat” for the low temp cat, sorry.
Dear Andre Blum:
I do not make electric measures, I let them made by specialists who are in the team of validators and certificators of the Hot Cat: for example, today they made a new measurement with new instrumentation which, substantially, again, confirmed the data of our preliminar report. As I said, and I repeat, these measurements will go ahead for at least other 2-3months, then the results will be published in a scientific magazine, after the due peer reviewing. It has been not very serious that a technician invited from us for a measure, by the way under NDA, has published very dibious results, after few hours of measurement, while the professors that are making the validation need months before saying anything. Please wait the end of the validation, and we will also read in the report the characteristic of all the instrumentation used. Right now a Prof. of electric measures is taking care of this issue, and he already has discovered the errors of the guy brought here from Hydrofusion, which we, obviously, respect: errors are normal in our job. Only they who do not work do not commit errors.It takes toime to be sure that there are no errors, and the reactor at high temperature is under test only since few months.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr Rossi,
Did you (sometimes / usually) use True RMS ammeters for your own input power measurements?
Thank you,
Andre
Dear Gherardo:
1- sorry, I do not understand the question: can you kindly rephrase it?
2- Rome has been made brick by brick
3- Depends on the locations and on the kind of Licensees
4- the Licensees’ certified operators
5- 20- 30 years
6- ask Prometeon
Thanks to you for your attention,
Warm Regards,
Andrea Rossi
Dear Steven N. Karels:
1- You are right, we will need 379 A.
2- I do not think, but the certification of the hot cat is in course, so I cannot answer anything certain. Again: the hot cat is a prototype in course of validation and certification. I am a receiving many requests regarding the tests in course, but we will give the final data only when the tests will have been finished.
Warm regards,
A.R.
Dear Steven N. Karels:
Please ask it to
adolf.schneider.vtxmail.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear bernie Koppenhofer:
The Warm cats domestic are not in production because they are not certified yet.
We are producing the 1 MW plants, low temperature.
Warm Regards,
A.R.