The Quantum Space Theory (QST) could explain the LENR

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F. Santandrea
R&D systems analyst – Labor s.r.l. Rome Italy
E-mail: f.santandrea@labor-roma.it
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U. Abundo
Physics teacher – Leopoldo Pirelli I.T.I.S. high school Rome Italy
E-mail: interprogetto@email.it
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The QST theory elaborated in 1994 by F. Santandrea, now under revision, contains some topics concerning the LENR recently submitted and appreciated from LENR researchers, QST could giving an unifying point of view on the whole Physics.
For further detailed please refer to the following link QST updated topics:
Ten years later the same basic ideas were independently approached by U. Abundo employing  the tools offered by the J.Von Neumann’s Cellular Automata from a point of view focused on information traveling, please refer to the following link:
The well known Widom-Larsen theory, basically focused on the cooperating behavior of the electrons in condensed matter (tuned with the theory of G. Preparata) may be regarded as a special case, under specific conditions, of what is predictable by the QST.
According with QST, it is naturally predictable the loss of identity of the electrons confined into condensed matter lattice, while the properties of space have priority and permit/control existence and behavior of electrons, so giving a natural coherence to the assumptions of Widom-Larsen.
Into the present new approach to space and particles structure, the latter become just expression of stable resonance frequencies of space; the same electron, particles and generally condensed matter are “electromagnetic objects” constituted of standing waves into the space quantum found by TSQ.
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366 comments to The Quantum Space Theory (QST) could explain the LENR

  • Neri B.

    DEar Andrea,
    when you say “Important news are on their way” are you referring to the patent application? Are they granting the patent or do you refer to a technical achievement with your Hot Cat /PLants ?
    Thank you for your attention
    Neri B.

  • quoted from http://www.e-catworld.com
    Miles on October 25, 2012 at 2:41 am
    ** Can someone please send this Message to Rossi at the JONP**
    “Melbourne researchers have come up with an alternative technique of making the ceramic parts needed to withstand temperatures in excess of 3000 degrees”
    “Working with a team of researchers from the Defence Materials Technology Centre, the University of Queensland, Swinburne University, the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation and BAE Systems, Dr Tallon said adding liquid and chemicals to the ceramic mix had produced a material which was able to survive temperatures above 3400 degrees”.
    “The technique has other advantages, including that the ceramic components can be made at lower temperatures and pressures. This saves time, money and energy”.
    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci-tech/the-secret-to-twohour-flights-to-london-ceramics-20121024-285ud.html#ixzz2AH5ael2Y

  • Dear Andrea,
    No considering confidentiality issues, I want to propose two experimental ways to learn more about the process:
    1) Find out the isotopes before and after reaction, and count their protons and neutrons. If the total numbers of protons and neutrons are not separately conserved, then weak interactions must play a role, if they are conserved, then weak interactions are not involved. This experiment is difficult, but maybe not impossible if the reactor is run for a sufficiently long time.
    2) Mix some radioactive nickel into the fuel and test if the radioactivity has decreased after the reaction. Repeat the same by mixing a radioisotope of some other metal (copper, iron, zinc, …) That is, test if the reaction consumes away pre-existing radioactivity. This test shouldn’t be difficult to do.
    regards, /pekka

  • Marco

    I bet that the big news are that you obtained stable steam and, attaching a turbine, you obtained full self sustained mode without power input…

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Steven N. Karels:
    Confidential,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Joseph Fine,

    Why do you assume an on/off control? Would not the same effect be achieved by time division multiplex (rapidly turning on and off the heat source) for electric heating? Or in the case of gas, linearly controlling the heat source to effect a linear response from eCat?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Dr Joseph Fine:
    This is a very confidential issue. You got the importance of it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    The E-Cat and Hot Cat use electric or natural gas heaters which turn on or off per control requirements.

    1: Can the E-Cat operate properly (or operate better) if the heaters are normally on continuously and regulated at a low temperature (rather than off or on at full power) and then are raised to a higher temperature?

    That is, instead of the heaters being totally on or totally off, can the Hot-Cat be driven using several levels of heat energy input? For example, the thermal input might have a ramp-up ramp-down or triangular characteristic: “/\/\/\/\/\/\/\”

    2: Same question but instead of a triangular or ramp waveform, the shape is
    _ _ _
    trapezoidal. _/ \___/ \___/ \_ (Not sinusoidal, but that is another possibility).

    3: You may have already tried this and concluded that Full On or Full off is the best. Is that true?

    Best regards,

    Joseph Fine

  • walker

    * Mr. Rossi Goes To Washington.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Jaroslaw Huba:
    I want to help you.
    Please contact
    info@leonardocorp1996.com
    give us your complete address.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jaroslaw Huba

    Dear Mr Rossi,
    I’m living in Poland and I’m intresting about selling your products here in Poland. Do you have company which will sell e-cat to this market? Currently I’m working at coal mine, but I fill the wind of change. I will be happy to do e-cat business. Please email me your answer.
    Sorry for my simply english.
    Regards,
    MSc Jaroslaw Huba.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Mark Saker:
    It will be the exact contrary.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Mark Saker

    Dear Andrea,

    Can you confirm whether this important news will delay the commercial availability of the warm/hot cat, or reduce the time to market?

    I am worried that a big customer is buying Leonardo Corporation and the e-cat technology will be hidden away for a decade. Can you confirm that will not be the case?

    Thanks

    Mark

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Avi and Steven N. Karels:
    In due time,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Stefano:
    We already have set up our program to share the benefits of this technology with children who need more healthcare. We cannot give away the IP, though, for obvious reasons. Anyway a non military plant is on his way, as I said.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Manuel Cilia:
    I am.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Mr Rossi
    You sound excited.

  • Stefano

    Dear ing. Rossi.
    You said people will be convinced only when operating machine will be functioning on the market. You also said that one system is already working but the costumer is military anf this prevent many communications to the general public. Then I ask: why do you not give a 1Mw plant for free to a non-profit organization allowing to any potential costumer to ask them how they find the ecat? The costs will be easily compensayed by so many new costumers.
    Have a good continustion of your work.
    Regards. Stefano

  • Avi

    Dear Andrea Rossi
    This is very exciting. Can you tell us some more about this important event that will change Leonardo Corp?

    Thanks

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Promise us you will not keep in suspense on this new result too long! Can we expect the information within a week?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Avi:
    Leonardo Corp. will not be the same from the next week. I am in the USA, where an inportant event has been born from the last tests.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Neri B.:
    You are right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Drew:
    Important news are on their way.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Herb Gills:
    I cannot give this info,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Herb Gillis

    Andrea Rossi:
    Do you think that the reaction that produces the excess heat could be an auto-catalytic reaction- – which is promoted by some intermediate or product forming, in the early stages of reaction? Could this be causing stability problems?
    Regards; HRG.

  • Drew

    Dear Andrea
    When do you think you will have finished the design of the new ultra compact 1Mw hotcat?
    when do you expect to start testing the above?

  • Robert Curto

    Dear Steven Karels thanks for verifying my assumption that eCat desalinization plants would be less expensive.

    Roberto
    Ft. Lauderdale

  • Neri B.

    Dear Andrea,
    i am not an expert in materials but i am asking:
    you stated that you have low energy gamma rays (50 – 100 keV)…are you aware of materials that could convert these rays into electric power directly such as a photovoltaic effect? In this case you could use this material as shield and have electric power without the issues of steam -> turbine -> alternator
    After having seen Pordenone conference your performance are so high that 15-20% in conversion could be enough to have a revolutionary device.
    Thank you for your attention
    Neri B.

  • Avi

    Dear Andrea Rossi
    How much customers you think you will have in 2013?

    Thanks

  • Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    My comment on the Energy Density of the Pordenone experiment was not included in any of the updates. The final version will probably include the proper description. I copied my message to you on the issue of Power Density and Energy Density and your response below. By definition, energy density includes the duration of the experiment, and a single charge could last about six months, or about an order of magnitude greater than reported (163.4 MWh/kg). (I apologize for using capital letters to “raise my voice”.) I wanted to make sure the information was correct. And of course, the red dot on the Ragone Chart would be higher and further to the right than it is already.

    1. What is the approximate volume of the 1 MW Hot-Cat? You suggested the volume would be significantly less than 1 cubic meter. ( Note: 1 cubic meter = 1000 liters. )

    2. At this time, are you considering developing larger or smaller versions of the hot-cat such as a 5 or 10 MW version or a 1/2 MW version?

    Comments on Power and Energy Density:

    On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:29:59 -0400, J FINE wrote:
    > NOT POWER DENSITY ——– ENERGY DENSITY
    >
    >
    > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    >
    > POWER DENSITY
    >
    > 163.4 MW * kg-1 (one hundred and sixty-three point four MWh per kg)
    >
    > (see the Ragone Plot at p. 15 of the Penon Report attached)
    >
    > DEAR ANDREA ROSSI,
    >
    > WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT, I THINK YOU DIDN’T READ WHAT I WROTE.
    >
    > IT IS NOT POWER DENSITY AS WRITTEN ABOVE, IT IS ENERGY DENSITY.
    >
    > FIRST OF ALL, IT SHOULD SAY: 163.4 MWh per kg. (Megawatt Hours per
    > kilogram)
    >
    > THIS IS ENERGY DENSITY, NOT POWER DENSITY!!!!!!!!!
    >
    > IF THE HOT CAT RUNS TEN TIMES LONGER, THE NUMBER OF MEGAWATT-HOURS IS
    > TEN TIMES GREATER.
    >
    > The Power Density is 50 times the nominal power: 50*14.337 KW = 716.85
    > KW / KG or 716,850 W / KG.
    >
    > Best wishes and best regards.
    >
    > Joseph Fine
    You are right, as usual.
    Warm Regards,
    A.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Brian:
    The efficiency of this thermoelectric device is good for waste heat, not for heat production.
    About the Pordenone Report, should be published soon, but it does not depend on me.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Robert Curto:
    The article of Featherstone on Popular Science is honest and sincere.
    He believed what he wrote, so I appreciate the journalist and the article. Of course the mass media like Popular Science need to see plants in operation to have a precise idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Adriam Monk:
    Yes, I remember, but is useless I send you photos you already have. When I will have the new version I will.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Bernie Konnenhofer:
    Sorry, we did not publish your comment because we do not publish the names of the Clowns.
    Thank you anyway for your comment, but do not worry: all the clowns have is zero: the evidence of this is given by their mock up.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Martin:
    We have stable reactors at more than 1 000 °C. We have to produce steam, now and we are working on it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Martin

    Dear Andrea,

    Please help me, if you have stable steam more than1000 degree c it is
    A matter of 2 weeks to produce electricity with for example a stirling option.
    What is the problem?

    Best regards

    Martin

  • Adrian Monk

    Dear A. Rossi,
    Some time ago you prommissed some new photos on the old E-Cat Unit. I was really looking forward for them. Is this request still considered?

    With great respect.
    Adrian

  • Steven Karels

    Roberto,

    The application of eCat technology was discussed awhile ago. The general consensus was that eCat would do best by providing the inexpensive electricity to run desalinization plants.

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Stability of light nuclei isotopes according to Quantum Ring Theory

    Exchange of emails between John Arrington and W. Guglinski ( 17 to 22 October 2012):

    =================================================
    Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:48:03 -0700
    From: johna_6@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: the 7fm neutron halo in beryllium nucleus
    To: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com

    You should also note that this is for 11Be, which is not a stable nucleus, rather than 9Be.

    =================================================

    =================================================
    From: wladimirguglinski@hotmail.com
    To: johna_6@yahoo.com
    Subject: Stability of light nuclei isotopes
    Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:18:23 -0200

    Dear John
    I wrote a new paper, and I had published in Peswiki, where I analyse the stability of the light nuclei isotopes with Z< 8, according to my new nuclear model:

    Stability of light nuclei isotopes according to Quantum Ring Theory
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Stability_of_light_nuclei_isotopes_according_to_Quantum_Ring_Theory

    From the article we realize that 11Be and 15C have similar structures (there is only a small difference in their symmetry).

    So, it would be expected that in 15C the third excess neutron should have to be far away of the central cluster (about 7fm), as happens in the case of the 11Be.
    I did not understand yet why it does not occur in the case of the 15C (since the experiments did not detect such anomaly).

    Perhaps that small difference symmetry in their structure is the reason why there is not that distance of 7fm in the 15C.

    The stability of the isotopes since Li3 to N7 is predicted correctly by my new nuclear model.

    Regards
    WLAD

    =================================================

  • Robert Curto

    Dr.Rossi and Readers, in the November issue of Popular Science there is an article Titled
    ‘Andrea Rossi’s Black Box.’

    You can Google Popular Science Cold Fusion.
    But you will get positive and negative comments.

    It is best to read the 10 page Article it is mostly
    positive, although they do take a few pop shots at you.
    You can buy a copy or maybe read it at the Library.

    Popular Science was Founded in 1872, with a circulation of 1.45 million, and 6.5 million
    monthly readers.

    Because the Mass Media has been ignoring you, hoping you will go away.
    This has gotta be a step in the right direction.

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale

  • Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, in regards to the water article.
    I am thinking that E-Cat could provide a Desalination Plant at a lot less cost then anything available today.

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale

  • Brian

    Mr. Rossi

    I hope that you are well. I had two questions.

    1. I have been reading about some interesting developments in thermoelectric energy materials, which allow for compact conversion of energy to electricity. Are there any thoughts about integrating such technologies with the Hot-Cat

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120919135310.htm

    2. One of the reports from your recent conference mentioned a 120 page test report that you would be releasing soon? Was this an accurate report. If so, when might we expect it.

    Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Daniel De Caluwè:
    Our Belgium Licensee will contact you.
    As for your suggestions and considerations, I am studying them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Robert Curto

    Dear Dr. Rossi and Readers
    Google:

    Water 101-ACCIONA North America

    Then click on:
    Water 101-

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    As I understand your technology (my understanding being limited and inexact as that may be), it seems the practical limit on COP for your units is a matter of control.

    a. I take it that the COP can be controlled by a number of parameters including core temperature. The higher the temperature, the more thermal output from the eCat. Stability is the key. Don’t run the eCat to a higher COP than stability warrants. Is this essentially correct?

    b. Perhaps a way to improve COP performance is to provide a negative temperature input. We had previously discussed using water to quickly cool the reactor in the event of an emergency. If an inner rod within the eCat were added where a small amount of water could be introduced that turns to steam from the eCat core temperature, would this not cool the reaction and thus allow you to operate with a higher COP?

  • John Proof

    Dear F. Santandrea, U. Abundo,

    You wrote:
    The QST theory elaborated in 1994 by F. Santandrea, now under revision, contains some topics concerning the LENR recently submitted and appreciated from LENR researchers, QST could giving an unifying point of view on the whole Physics.

    moreover You also wrote :
    qe = +/- square root (…)
    From this equation one can conclude that the electric charge is always a function of the properties of the space. In this paper, two new properties of the space are introduced by applying a principle of symmetry.

    In the document “Electronic Conception of the Space, the Energy and the Matter” You wrote that the formula [36] could explain the above statement but it isn’t absolutely demonstrated. It’s not just a matter of theory under revision.

    Can I recover somewhere the original “Quantum Space Theory” elaborated 1994 by F. Santandrea that explain the claims complete of the mathematical relations and equations?

    JP

  • Dear Dr. Rossi,

    Is it possible to disclose the name of your Belgian Licensee (and/or the Licensee for the Benelux)? (I’m interested in who or what company that represents you in Belgium and/or the Benelux).

  • Dear Dr. Rossi,

    From the economical point of view, heating with gas is much cheaper than heating with electricity (gas bill will be lower than electricity bill), and as well for the Home E-cat as for the industrial Hot E-cat (also to produce electricity), replacing the electrical drive (electrical heating used when the E-cat is not operating in SSM (self sustaining mode)) by a heating with a gas burner is and would be a very big economical improvement, that will reduce the bill of the drive.

    So, therefore my question: what’s the present situation of the gas-driven E-cat? Can and will it be used also in the Home E-cat? (It would be an enormous improvement, especially in the Home E-cat, where the electricity-bill would be replaced by a much lower gas-bill, so that we also economically could replace most of the smaller central heating units (like in appartements) by gas-driven Home E-cats…

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    At first glance, it would seem a scanning electron microscope (SEM) could be used on “spent” fuel. Since the natural isotopic distribution is approximately 68% 58Ni and 26% 60Ni with much smaller percentages for 61Ni, 62Ni and 64Ni (the other stable isotopes), any deviation from a natural distribution would be of significance.

    If an SEM analysis revealed the presence of non-stable nickel (e.g., 59Ni with a half-life of 76,500 years or 63Ni with a half-life time of 100 years), this would certainly demonstrate a LENR reaction.

    I have not yet computed the amount of nickel conversion needed to sustain a 10 kW thermal output for 6 months of continuous operation but considering your fuel mass is under 20 grams, I suspect it should be a healthy percentage.

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