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Sergey P.Efimov
Senior-lecturer, Department of mathematics,
Bauman Moscow State Technical University. Moscow. Russia
E-mail: serg.efimo2012@yandex.ru
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Short Content
Modern ideas presume that the nucleon has a complex structure. Accordingly, one should not expect simple and exact formulas for the above quantities in future theory. Still, if we suppose that future theory possesses hidden symmetry then there possibly exist simple formulas for the magnetic moments, since in quantum theory, symmetries normally generate comparatively simple formulas involving integer numbers. The hypothesis can be verified by a simple, but not at all obvious, method of numerical analysis of the experimental data.
Based on it, we find simple phenomenological formulas for the magnetic moments of the proton and neutron with 10 valid digits. We also obtain a compact formula for the relation of the electron’s anomalous moment to the summary magnetic moment of the nucleon with 11 valid digits, and propose dependencies of the neutron and proton masses in electron mass units as functions with argument π.
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Dear Andrea Rossi,
Another possible application for the Warm eCat is commercial swimming pool heaters. Typical power levels are 45kW to 220kW. Unique requirements are the pipes as they need to handle chlorinated water, etc. But they run long periods so this should be ideal for eCat technology.
Ing. Rossi,
I recently saw this Japanese Patent Application on Refrigeration technology. (See below link)
http://www.google.com/patents/EP1956067A1?cl=en
Their idea was to use a mixture of Carbon Dioxide and Dimethyl Ether (DME) as a refrigerant. CO2 (used in the heat pump ECO-CUTE) does not have a very high COP of cooling, but its performance is enhanced by using a mixture of CO2 and DME. If this mixture enhances high temperature performance, so much the better.
The following is a Purdue Analysis of some CO2/DME systems.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/csrtfco
Some of this material could be useful.
But building a working system requires much more
work than talking about it.
Best regards,
Joseph Fine
Dear Steven Karels:
I agree.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Franco:
The third party validation commission is European.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Fibb:
Thank yu,
Warm Reards,
A.R.
Dear Ing. Rossi,
Thank you for your response. I hope you are preparing to manufacture thousands in 2013, as the market for your 1MW plant is very large already.
Dear ing. Rossi,
Was the Third Party Validators European or US?
Best Regards
Franco
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I know you will produce eCats commercially depending on where the market forces send you. My point about DERs was that small versions of electrical production eCats may satisfy a need for a distributed capability. It may also be easier to penetrate this market (the so-called “low hanging fruit”). DERs can be used in rural areas, remote locations and within cities where adding a large power generation station may be otherwise impractical. And competing against solar cell DERs may give you a cost advantage as they are an expensive approach. Success here may provide a pathway into the larger electrical generation opportunities.
Stefano,
The size of the eCat module produces about 10 kiloWatts, reportedly. Andrea Rossi has stated that smaller reactors are possible. But I do not recall him stating that larger eCat reactors are possible. Apparently, there is a limitation in this technology stated in terms of safety and stability that limits the reactor (module) size.
I suppose as the size grows, the ability to dissapate power increases by the square of the size but the power production would increase by the cube of the size. So, perhaps, this is the limitation?
By using multiple modules with proper heat flow controls and techniques, larger equivalent reactors can be fashioned (i.e., the 1MW eCat unit). This approach also lends itself to running at various demand loads by simply turning off a group of eCat reactors (e.g., a 1MW system my have 100 each 10 kW reactors so there are at least 100 different power settings possible).
Higher power generation could be done by coupling 1 MW units together. Even 2,200 units for a 1 GW electrical power plant would still occupy less space than the coal portion of a coal-fired plant. This assume a 45% Carnot efficiency.
Dear Stefano:
A bigger reactor should be completely useless, since a combination of modules makes the same service. Obviously the smaller the reactor, the simpler the maintainment of stability. You must accept the intuitive aspect of this assertion, because I cannot enter in particulars for confidential issues.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear gian:
The Third Party Validators are paid by nobody. They worked exclusively for scientific purpose. Tha pact with us is: they are allowed to publish where they want the results, whatever the result. We had to put at their disposal the Apparatus, in a clean room, with all the electric connections under their control, without limit of time.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Fibb:
As much as the market will ask for.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Caroly Witkowsky:
Yes, it is still necessary,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
It was a long time since you mentioned the matter of Nickel isotope enrichment for which you have developed an entirely new enrichment methodlogy. I was much intrigued by this and now I wonder, is it still required for your nuclear reactors?
Kind regards, Caroly
Dear Ing. Rossi,
How many 1MW plants do you intend to manufacture in 2013 and 2014.
thanks
I have not understood who will pay Third Party Validators.
I ask if you could tell us.
Warm regards
gian
Dear Dr Rossi
I am afraid I do not understand very well the problems about safety. If nichel melts over a given temp why there should be problems of safety?
Kind regatds
Stefano
Dear Steven Karels:
I think yes, it is applicable.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Stefano, you are right. It is a matter of safety.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
According to your last answer it seems that the cat single module cannot be more powerfull than like now. You can rise the power only with more units together. Is there any reason? Can you put more powder and hydrogen to get more energy in a unit?
Kind regards.
Stefano
Dear Andrea Rossi,
According to wikipedia “Distributed energy resource (DER) systems are small-scale power generation technologies (typically in the range of 3 kW to 10,000 kW) used to provide an alternative to or an enhancement of the traditional electric power system. The usual problem with distributed generators are their high costs.”
We have discussed in the past theoretically using eCats for replacement of massive coal-fired electric generation plants (at least the coal-fired portion). Perhaps there is an additional commercial application?
Even assuming a lower turbine efficiency of 30% (for cheaper and smaller turbines), a 10kW eCat would produce the 3 kW of electricity. Likewise, a 1 MW Hot eCat system could produce 300 kW of electric power.
From Wikipedia again “In 2010 Colorado enacted a law requiring that by 2020 that 3% of the power generated in Colorado utilize distributed generation of some sort.”
The parameters of economics and turn-on/turn-off times and adjustment times will dictate if such a system would be limited to baseload power generation or could include load-following or intermediate power generation. Also important is for the Hot eCat based DER system to be reliable, unmanned and well accepted. Think of solar cell technology.
The market demand appears to be there. Can the eCat technology work in this application?
Dear Giuseppe:
We can combine modules to reach any power we want. I do not see any obstacle under a theoretical point of view.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Eng Rossi
Is something reasonable to think in the future to a bigger size e-cat able to produce a gigawatthour/h of energy , or your studies exclude some thing like this?
Giuseppe
Dear Italo R.:
The Third Party Validators are totally indipendent from us, they are not paid by us, therefore we cannot urge them or order them anything. They are free to publish where they want, when they want, whatever the results: this is how an indipendent test works.
All I can do is wait and hope. And work for my Customers 16 hours a day, as usual. What depends on me, depends on me, what is indipendent, is indipendent.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Carloluna:
Maybe a useful idea.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Steven Karels:
Interesting.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
There was a study on using nanoparticles to absorb sunlight and to immediately produce steam without heating the water. They claim 90% efficiency.
Perhaps a hot eCat producing short wavelength IR could do the same to produce high pressure steam. This might also be used for desalinazation or purification of water?
http://microsteamturbine.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/scientists-find-way-to-boil-water-using-sunlight/
Since the Hot eCat produces temperatures around 1000C, it should produce a lot of short wavelength IR due to blackbody radiation. These nanoparticles, housed in a suitable clear material ,say quartz, would vaporize the immediate water into steam. The steam could then be piped to its destination and the replacement water pumped into the nanoparticle compartment. What is required is the nanoparticles have a high level of emmissivity over the IR wavelengths the Hot eCat would produce.
Dear Engineer Andrea Rossi.
your hot-cat develops, in addition to the heat, even electricity directly. This reminds me a bit ‘the earth: The Earth’s mantle is made up largely of piezoelectric perovskites that produce heat and electricity because of the enormous pressure. the mantle flows on the core for the Coriolis force. so the electricity magnetizes the core.
So I believe that the Earth’s magnetic field is created. I suggest a small idea without knowing the catalyst but only its effects.
A coil rotating steel (rolling cat) that efficiently extract energy
Dear Dr. Rossi,
yes, and together with you there are also a lot of anxious other people around the world …
Can you urge these validators for publication?
Kind Regards
Italo R.
Dear Giuliano Bettini:
I am very anxious to read the report of the validation test made by a third party during December 2012.
Warm regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
I’m anxiously waiting for a phrase, something like:
“Il navigatore italiano è appena sbarcato nel nuovo mondo.”
…. and trustfully.
Many congratulations and best wishes
Giuliano Bettini
Dear Giuseppe:
Yes, we are working on the issue to make electric power, and we are going toward the classic Carnot cycle. We have many other technologies under focus. The power we are interested to for immediate application is 500-1000 kW.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Vladimir:
We received yesterday the interesting offer from Green Turbine. As a matter of fact, it is a device with a power around 1.5 kW . We are manufacturing 1 MW plants and we are working on this power level ( 500-1000 kW). As for the domestic E-Cats, this device can be useful, with adaptations, and we will make tests with it, pending the certification issue.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
according to their website, the “Green Turbine” is already on sale, but currently available only for beta-testers and product integrators due to liability reasons. According to specifications, the turbine is able to work with steam temperatures from 130 C. However, domestic E-Cat is delivering steam up to 120 C.
Do you think, there is still a chance to integrate both products efficiently? As far as I can see, this would be a perfect couple for the home usage to produce electricity and heat simultaneuosly. If you are still committed to the development of E-Cat for home usage (independent of the ongoing certification), this is in my opinion a very promising chance to prepare domestic E-Cat for the market and make it even more fit for solving energy problems.
Kind regards,
Vladimir
Gentile dottor Rossi.
Dear Mr Rossi.
State valutando qualche turbina da applicare all’Hot Cat e produrre corrente?
Are you evaluating some kind of turbine to apply to Hot Cat and produce electricity?
Se si, quanti Kwh e’ in grado di produrre?
If yes how many Kwh is the output?
Giuseppe
Dear gian luca:
I understood perfectly the question of Robert Curto, and I answered that we made the tests with the Hot Cat, but we did not test the “Green Turbine” because we did not receive any real proposal for a product to be bought and tested.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Stefano:
We are working hard to apply the Carnot cycle. This is what the Hot Cat is made for.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
i hope photovoltaic will be helpful in driving the hotcat. Another question: I have the feeling (but I might be wrong) that you are not at the point to test a real carnot engine for producing e.p. Or, at least, it seems that you seem to have less enthusiasm in the production of electricity. Some recent experiments did not go well? What are you testing in these days?
Thank you very much and I hope everything will go well.
Regards,
Cortese A.R.
forse Fibb intendeva riferirsi alla Sua risposta alla domanda di Robert Curto, nella quale Le si chiedeva, a fronte del fatto che l’E-CAT produce calore, se avesse già provato la turbina di “green turbine”. Lei, successivamente, ha risposto “done”. Forse c’è un equivoco?!
Dear Fibb:
Means that we tested the E-Cat. The tests of third party have been done on the Hot Cat. We all are waiting for the publication. We will see the text, I do not even know, so far, where and when exactly the publication will be made. That’s all I can say. We did not test the Green Turbine, but if we receive an offer for a real off-the-shelf product we will surely buy and test one.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Ing. Rossi,
when you said “done” to the question “when will you test it?” below did you mean you tested the green turbine or just tested the ecat?
Thanks for clarifying.
Dear Robert Curto:
1- yes
2- done
About the home apparatuses: we need certification. So far we can manufacture only industrial plants.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi, you can
Google:
GreenGen
and
Green Turbine
Very interesting
websites.
Robert
Dr. Rossi.in September GreenGen
will sel a energy plant for the home.
It will use a 1.5kW Turbine, (the size of a football, on sale now) made by Green Turbine.
It will heat the home, and convert the extra heat to electricity. It will use wood pellets to produce the heat.
My questions are:
1. Can E-Cat be used to produce the heat ?
2. If yes, when will you test it ?
I don’t know the cost of wood pellets, however I do know the cost for the fuel for the E-Cat will be a small percent of the cost of wood pellets.
If E-Cat can have a energy plant for the home that will produce heat and electricity, you could sell a few hundred million of them.
There are 80 million homes in the USA alone.
Who would not want one ?
Robert
Dear Valac:
Please contact
info@leonardocorp1996.com
for commercial issues.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Engineer Rossi
When is the Hotcat a product for industrial apps?
1. Pre-order time
2. Delivery time
3. Cost for 1MW
4. Warranty time
5. Refueling period and cost
Kind regards. Valac
Mr. Robert Curto
This is, what Mr. Rossi believers, who made preorders on domestic E-Cats, are expecting for. To get some electricity and the rest of heat use, for heating water and the house.
I wonder,(it is Si-Fi wishing) if it is possible to integrate generator, turbine and even E-Cat as a one flywheel.
The centrifugal force should create some pressure in the circulating liquid coolant forcing it move trough the system . The heated and under pressure liquid might work as reaction engine, turbo jet.
The same rotation of the flywheel force, might also support the circulation and pressure of the coolant, if necessary
Dear Robert Curto:
Thank you for your information. Yes, the E-Cats could integrate power plants fuels, indipendently from the kind of fuels.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi I just posted.
If you click on greengen. if you do not get it, then
enter it on Google.
On the second link
you cannot click on
Google
http://www.greenturbine.net
Robert
Dr.Rossi and Readers, I hope this works.
Google:
http://www.greengen.be
Read how GreenGen will sell a energy plant for the home, using wood pellets to create
heat, to heat the home, and convert the extra heat to produce electricity.
They will use a 1.5kW Turbine made by Green Turbine.
Google:
http://www.greenturbine.
net
I was wondering if E-Cat can replace the wood pellets ?
Robert
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
USA