Do Dark Gravity Theories Predict Opera Superluminal Neutrinos and LENR Phenomena?

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Centre de Physique des Particules de Marseille
July 1, 2012

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We investigate whether Dark Gravity theories (DG) with two conjugate metrics gμν and g‾μνμρ ηνλ gˆρλ  where ημρ is supposed to be a background non dynamical and flat metric or an auxiliary field, actually predicted the occurrence of apparently superluminal propagations (from our metric side gμν point of view) such as the one recently reported by the Opera experiment. We find that indeed such theories could predict the order of magnitude of the superluminal velocity and even explain the apparent conflict with the SN1987 normal neutrino speeds provided the neutrinos are able to oscillate between the two conjugate metrics while propagating in a dense medium. We then explain the theoretical motivations and explore all possible phenomenological consequences of the field discontinuities naturally expected in some Dark Gravity theories. Since the Opera result was not confirmed, these discontinuities do not actually allow a propagation of neutrinos oscillating between the two conjugate metrics.
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309 comments to Do Dark Gravity Theories Predict Opera Superluminal Neutrinos and LENR Phenomena?

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Everytime I look at the page 92 of my book Quantum Ring Theory, I remember Hal Fox.

    He was the Editor of the Journal of New Energy, which published my paper A NEW MODEL OF THE NEUTRON in the Vol. 4, No. 4, 2000.
    http://www.padrak.com/ine/JNEV4N4.html

    That was the first publication of a paper of mine in a scientific journal.
    I am very thankful to him.

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    Hal Fox died in 2012

    http://news.newenergytimes.net/2012/08/28/hal-fox-dies/

    regards
    wlad

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in January 31st, 2014 at 8:19 PM
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    Eernie1:
    Make the equations and you will discover that the lepton conservation law is not respected. ” Electron capture” has never been really observed for this reason: it is a sort of an Arab Phoenix. All the theories based on this effect are groundless. This is my opinion. Ready to change it if experimental evidence of electron capture will be produced.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.
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    Wladimir Guglinski wrote in February 6th, 2014 at 6:24 PM:

    Page 92 of QRT:
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    Now we understand what happens: because a lepton is hidden into the structure of the neutron and in the structure of the mesons and other particles, after the decay the lepton is responsible by a fantasy result which cannot be understood by the current theories.
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    regards
    wlad

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in February 1st, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Eernie:
    I agree with what you say now; it is true that the neutrinos have made respected the conservation of the leptons parity in the equations of many Feynman diagrams, but they cannot do it in the electron capture described in LENR theories, which, therefore, do not respect the leptons conservation law. Therefore such theories are wrong. The mechanism that allows the production of energy by means of the so called Rossi Effect is totally different.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
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    COMMENT

    Don Borghi and Conte-Pieralice experiments have shown that neutron must be formed by proton+electron.

    C. Borghi, C. Giori, A.A. Dall’Ollio, Experimental Evidence of Emission of Neutrons from Cold Hydrogen Plasma, American Institute of Physics (Phys. At. Nucl.), vol 56, no 7, 1993.

    E. Conte, M. Pieralice, An Experiment Indicates the Nuclear Fusion of the Proton and Electron into a Neutron, Infinite Energy, vol 4, no 23-1999, p 67.

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    A neutron formed by proton+electron requires new laws.

    The quantum spin 1/2 of the electron is due to its intrinsic spin (rotation of its body, like the rotation of the Earth about its axis) and the helical trajectory of the electron (zitterbewegung).

    When the electron is captured by a proton, the electron loses its helical trajectory, and it loses its spin 1/2, and that’s whay the neutron has spin 1/2.
    When the electron loses its helical trajectory, an antineutrino is emitted with spin 1/2, so that to keep the conservation of the total angular momentum.

    Therefore, at the first glance, its seems to have a violation of the addition of spins. But there is not violation, because an antineutrino with spin 1/2 is created when the electron loses its spin 1/2.

    Not only the electron is submitted to such a mechanism of losing its spin 1/2.
    All the leptons also are submitted to such a law, which I call spin-fusion in my theory.

    In the paper A NEW MODEL OF THE NEUTRON, published in my book Quantum Ring Theory, it is shown that several reactions of Particle Physics must be explained by considering the spin-fusion.

    In the page 92 of my book QRT it is written the following:

    Page 92 of QRT:
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    There is an interesting fact that we can note. In their book, Eisberg & Resnick say: So, the conservation of the parity can be violated in the K decay like it is violated in the beta-decay, because in the both decays there is participation of the weak force, in which there is not conservation of the parity”

    As we realize, because the physicists did not discover that the addition of spins is violated, they transferred the problem for the parity. Instead of: “the addition of spins is violated in the beta-decay”, they say: “the parity is not kept in the beta-decay”

    Now we understand what happens: because a lepton is hidden into the structure of the neutron and in the structure of the mesons and other particles, after the decay the lepton is responsible by a fantasy result which cannot be understood by the current theories.

    It is important to note that the total addition of spins is not violated.
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    regards
    wlad

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Mr. eernie1 wrote in February 6th, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Wlad is using electric quadripole and magnetic moment values to explain possible internal mechanisms.
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    COMMENT

    No, dear Mr. eernie1

    I have actually proposed a new nuclear model, which works by new physical mechanisms missing in the current nuclear models.

    And by using my model I calculate magnetic moments, nuclear spíns, and electric quadrupole, so that to compare the theoretical values obtained from calculation with the values measured by experiments.

    Therefore, I use electric quadrupole, nuclear spins, and magnetic moments so that to prove that my model is able to reproduce the nuclear properties of the nuclei.

    This is a procedure always used so that to verify if a theoretical model is agree to values obtained from experiments.

    In my new nuclear model, the protons and neutrons are not bound via strong nuclear force.
    Such proposal of my theory is confirmed by that experiment published in 2009, where a halo neutron is 7fm far away from the rest of the nucleus 4Be11:
    http://www.uni-mainz.de/eng/13031.php

    As the strong force actuates only in a maximum distance of 3fm, of course the halo neutron in a distance of 7fm from the nucleus cannot be bound via strong force.

    The puzzle of the halo neutron in 4Be11 is explained by considering the nuclear model proposed in Quantum Ring Theory, as shown in the page 71 of the paper “STABILTY OF LIGHT NUCLEI”, published here in JoNP.

    However, as always happens when the current nuclear models are invalidated by a new experiment, the nuclear theorists try to justify that experimental result by applying the Heisenberg’s phantasmagoric method: they propose some absurd explanation based on a mathematical assumptions, by neglecting that phenomena must be caused by physical causes.
    This is the sort of solution addopted by Dr. Wilfried Nörtershäuser of the Institute of Nuclear Chemistry, who proposed the following:
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    The riddle as to how the halo neutron can exist at such a great distance from the core nucleus can only be resolved by means of the principles of quantum mechanics: In this model, the neutron must be characterized in terms of a so-called wave function. Because of the low binding energy, the wave function only falls off very slowly with increasing distance from the core. Thus, it is highly likely that the neutron can expand into classically forbidden distances, thereby inducing the expansive ‘heiligenschein’.
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    As we easily realize, to consider that “the neutron can expand into classically forbidden distances” is a mere desperate attempt so that to save the current nuclear models, which were developed by applying the phantasmagoric Heisenberg’s scientific method.

    It’s hard to consider seriously any desperate attempts similar to that tried by Dr. Wilfried Nörtershäuser.

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    The puzzles of exotic light nuclei ( which have nuclear properties impossible to be explained by the Standard Nuclear Physics) shows clearly that there is need to abandon the prevailing nuclear models, and to start to consider seriously a new nuclear model with fundamental principles missing in the current nuclear models.

    regards
    wlad

  • eernie1

    It is cold here in Chicago, it is a slow day in the world of LENR information and I have entirely too much time on my hands at the present. So I would like to present a few thoughts that may interest the readers of this site. The work of Wlad and Sarg to my thinking is not fully appreciated by most people. Their investigations into the geometrical factors of the atomic nuclei may hold the answers to getting energy from the nucleus. I have noticed an increase in the mainstream interest into the geometry of Quantum systems. One scheme is claimed to be able to interpret branching reactions far better than the Feynman method by using a geometrical system. Wlad is using electric quadripole and magnetic moment values to explain possible internal mechanisms. Sarg goes directly to the forms of the nuclear particles to predict their behavior. Perhaps the answers to the LENR puzzle can be obtained by investigating how external forces can change the symmetry/asymmetry of the interior nuclear arrangements releasing internal energy. One other subject lately has interested me. Gravity is the most mysterious entity in the physical spectrum of subjects. We know that it performs much like most force fields. Its force diminishes as the square of distance between masses, and recently two Chinese scientists have measured its propagation rate as that of the speed of light using lunar effects upon the tides of earth oceans. However its effect is always attractive as opposed to the bipolar characteristic of other fields which can be attractive or repulsive depending on the orientation of its field components. A monopole should be repulsive unless one field could reverse the other fields polarity at a rapid pace. A dipole field should be capable of reversal and thus Gravity reversed. The solution may lie in the symmetrical arrangement of the nucleus.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dr Jseph Fine:
    Thank you, interesting information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    A continuing interest has been new forms/phases of Carbon. Now scientists at Rice University, (Houston) and the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT) along with the Emanuel Institute of Biochemical Physics (Moscow) have discovered (a new phase) or invented another form of carbon called ‘Diamane’. Diamane is a several-atom thick Diamond film made from chemically treating sheets of Graphene.

    As with graphene, graphane, graphyne and now diamane, some of these carbon materials (plus Hydrogen in graphane) may help remove heat more rapidly from high temperature devices that might otherwise melt. You may find some use for this material.

    Not everything has been invented yet.
    And there always will be new ways to combine and develop what has already been invented.

    Diamane:
    http://news.rice.edu/2014/02/03/no-pressure-needed-for-diamond-film/

    Graphane:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphane

    Graphyne:
    http://news.sciencemag.org/2012/03/graphyne-could-be-better-graphene

    Thermal regards,

    Joseph Fine

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    This is an issue that does not depend on me. I heard that the publication will be made on a peer reviewed magazine, but let me say also that when a paper is signed by 6 Professors coming from different scientific institutes it is already reviewed, because all the 6 must agree on the publication, and each of them reviews the work of the Others. Besides, Arxiv Physics has anyway a preliminar peer reviewing: many manuscripts are not published, because considered incomplete, even if endorsed from well known experts.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    James Bowery: I want to complete my answer to your emotional comment saying that we are working as hard as we can to lower the energy costs. I just wanted to say that it is irrealistic to think that all the other energy sources will be displaced.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Regarding the third party report:

    Last year, the report of the Third Indipendent Party was published on arxiv.org, rather than in a peer reviewed journal.

    Do you expect this new report will be accepted by a peer-reviewed journal?

    If it is not, should we expect to see it on arxiv.org?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    James Bowery:
    All the energy sources will be integrated.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dr. Rossi,

    You might be interested in what is happening in the rural midwest with the propane shortage. See this graph of historic vs current prices:

    http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/images/86.jpg

    These prices have never been approached even remotely in history.

    People on fixed incomes in rural areas are now in physical danger, not to mention the livestock of farmers who aren’t near natural gas lines.

    We held off borrowing money from relatives to install a heat pump, hoping for a home heating unit to hit the market. Now our house has no furnace heat. We’re keeping it at 50F with electric space heaters. My wife has advanced Huntingtons Disease and I must care for her which means I cannot work outside the home — care for which I receive no compensation. As bad as our situation is, it is a mere inconvenience and mild discomfort compared to more elderly farming couples who have not moved to nursing homes and are staying on their farms. They are now facing a severe winter storm ripping through the Midwest. There is a distinct possibility of deaths in some of these families — particularly as almost all of their children have left farming life for the cities and are not available for emergency help.

    My wife is one tough chick and we have relatives near by, so we’re in no danger (we’re careful with the electric space heaters), but I thought it might be worthwhile mentioning the fact that even in the developed world, your technology is starting to look like a life-saver given the vagaries of the petroleum infrastructure.

  • Sven Kullander
    9 March 1936 — 28 January 2014

    Professor Emeritus Sven Kullander passed away on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 at the age of 77.

    Sven was Professor in High Energy Physics at Uppsala University and has contributed to the understanding of the Quark structure of matter in Nuclear Physics and to the development of Accelerators to improve the findings in the search for matters finest constituents. Sven was also a respected member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

    Prof. Kullander showed interest in the E-Cat and LENR but always held a professional and impartial approach seeking repeatable undisputable evidence of the effect, verifiable through as many means as possible. It was through some of these verification tests, taking place in Bologna, that we came to know Prof. Kullander.

    Prof. Kullander’s contribution to the reputability of the E-Cat is in no doubt even though his stringency of verifiability hindered him from endorsing it publicly.

    It is with great grief we see Sven leave us on our journey and we send our sincerest condolences to his family and loved ones and to his coworkers and fellow scientists.

    Rest in Peace Sven.

    Andrea Rossi Magnus Holm
    Leonardo Corporation Hydro Fusion
    Industrial Heat

    Sven Kullander Biography
    Position: Professor emeritus Uppsala University, Sweden

    Academic career
    Research Assistant The Enrico Fermi Institute for Nuclear Studies,
    University of Chicago, 1961 – 1963
    Research Engineer Gustaf Werner Institute for Nuclear Chemistry,
    Uppsala University, 1964 – 1965
    Visiting Scientist Machine Synchrocyclotron Division,
    CERN, Geneva, 1966
    Staff Member Experimental Physics Division,
    CERN, Geneva, 1967 – 1972
    Associate Professor Division of High Energy Physics,
    Uppsala University, 1973 – 1978
    Professor Division of High Energy Physics,
    Uppsala University 1979 – 2001
    Guest Professor Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics,
    Heidelberg, Spring, 1987
    Guest Professor Research Centre for Nuclear Physics,
    Osaka University, 1986- 1998, 1 month/year
    Professor emeritus Uppsala University, 2002 –
    Staff member Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, 2004 –

    Special appointments
    Head, R&D Group for the Uppsala 185 MeV Synchrocyclotron (SC), 1964 – 1965
    Leader of the Uppsala High Energy Physics group at CERN, Geneva, 1967 – 1987
    Co-ordinator for the Physics Programme at the CERN 600 MeV SC, 1968 – 1969
    Chairman of the Committee for Swedish Accelerator based Physics, 1978 – 1980
    Director of the Gustaf Werner Institute, Uppsala University, 1979 – 1986
    Head, High Energy Physics Division, Uppsala University, 1979 – 2001
    Chairman of the Cte for Astronomy, Mathematics and Physics, Swedish Nat. Sci. Res. Council, 1980 – 1983
    Chairman, Int. Evaluation Group for Swedish Mathematical and Theoretical Physics, 1982
    Chairman of the Swedish CERN Committee, 1980 – 1983
    Head, Department of Radiation Sciences, 1986 – 1989
    Dean, Faculty of Mathematics and Natural Sciences, Uppsala University, 1989-1993
    Chairman, Uppsala University Extensions for continuing Education, 1989 – 1993
    Chairman, Programme Advisory Committee, COSY, Jülich, 1997 – 2001
    Chairman, Int. Review Committee for Osaka Research Centre for Nuclear Physics, 1997
    Director, Graduate Programme of Advanced Instrumentation and Measurements, 1998 – 2001
    Professor emeritus, Uppsala University, 2001-
    Vice President Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences, 2003 – 2006
    Chairman, Energy Committée of the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences, 2005 –
    Member of the Board of the European Academies Science Advisory Council, 2005 –
    Vice President, European Academies Science Advisory Council, 2007 –
    Member of the Thorium Report Committee appointed by the Norweigan Ministry of Petroleum and Energy
    Membership in Societies and Academies
    Royal Academy of Arts and Sciences in Uppsala
    Royal Society of Sciences in Uppsala
    Swedish Physical Society
    European Physical Society
    Finnish Society of Sciences and Letters
    Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

    Committee Memberships
    Nuclear Physics Research Committee, CERN, 1968 – 1969
    Swiss Institute for Nuclear Research,Villigen, 1968 – 1970
    Swedish Atomic Research Council, 1975 – 1977
    Committee for Physics Experiments at the CERN Proton Synchrotron, 1977 – 1979
    Swedish Natural Science Research Council, 1977 – 1983
    CERN Council, 1980 – 1983
    CERN Research Board, 1982 – 1984
    Board of the Faculty of Mathematics and Natural Sciences, Uppsala, 1984 – 1993
    Board, Uppsala University Int. Science Programme in Physics and Chemistry, 1990 – 1994
    Scientific Council of the Cooler Ring COSY project, Jülich, Germany, 1989 – 1992
    Programme Advisory Committee, COSY, Jülich, 1994 – 2001
    Scientific Policy Committee, Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics, Heidelberg, 1991- 1998
    Swedish CERN Committee, 1977 – 1995
    Asea Brown Boveri Energy Prize Award committee, 1990 – 1997
    Editorial Board, Nuclear Instruments and methods, 1993 – 2002
    Chairman of the Board of Uppsala University’s Museum Gustavianum, 2003- 2007
    Board member of Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, 1996 – 2002, 2003 – 2006

    Published papers
    Published about 200 papers in the fields of accelerators, nuclear physics and elementary particle physics. In addition, papers on popular science: radiation science, energy, environment, microcosmos.
    Books: Mikrokosmos (1984), Out of Sight (1994), De lärdas bibliotek 1995, Värmarnas land 2005.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea, Regarding the quote from Albert Einstein. I find it constantly amazing how many people realise the trinity of life everlasting. Thanks for the info. Regards Eric Ashworth

  • eernie1

    Dear Andrea, Not too soon!

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof. Sven Kullander, Chairman of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences , Prof. Emeritus of the University of Uppsala has left this world and returned in the Universal Spirit of God.
    His legacy for the scientific community is endless. He honoured our work with extreme attention.
    “Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in Physics, know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion” ( Albert Einstein).
    So long, Prof. Kullander: see you soon.
    Andrea Rossi

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea Rossi, I have been following your remarks with regards your theory and the necessity of the completion of the validation of the e-cat so as to publish. Would I be correct by thinking that the word validation could be substituted by the word acceptance. My thoughts are because of my own problems that I have experienced regarding problematic situations. In the meantime, I wish you every success and eagerly awaite your theory. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gio:
    A scientist must never disbilief himself, but always put in discussion his work: I must exercise epochè against known knowledge, but , by coherence, I must exercise epochè also against myself.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Andrew:
    As a scientist, I must maintain a skeptic attidude against myself, until the validation in course is not completed. Thank you for your kindness.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrew

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    Clarifying that I do believe in your hard work and I hope in the success of your technology, I don’t understand why you keep pointing out the fact that the results of the tests can be positive or negative..
    You have been working with this technology for a long time now and you also say that you have a good theory to explain the reaction..
    How could the outcome of the test possibly result negative?
    By keep clearing that out You are leaving this uncertanty that implies that you are not yet sure if the Cat works..
    How s that possible ?

  • gio

    would you have never disbelieved really to reach this goal ?

    gio , a “never-disbeliever”

  • Andrea Rossi

    Giuliano Bettini:
    I will publish the theory behind the so called Rossi Effect as soon as possible, in any case not before the validation work in course will be completed. Please remember that the results couls be positive or negative.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    No one, sorry. And I assure I studied all of the published ones.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You have already indicated that you don’t appreciate theories that involve inverse beta decay or hydrinos for the explanation of the “Rossi effect”. Would you say, without giving a name, that any of the published approaches (whether peer reviewed or not) explains the effect correctly?

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  • Giuliano Bettini

    Andrea,
    recently you wrote:
    “We have now a good theory about the so called Rossi Effect….”.
    You wrote also:
    “The mechanism that allows the production of energy by means of the so called Rossi Effect is totally different”.
    Thus, conscious of being indiscreet, I ask:
    The so called Rossi Effect is based on……? Have you got a clear idea now?
    Just a rough idea:
    transmutations?
    pico-chemistry?
    collective phenomenon?
    Thanks,
    Giuliano Bettini.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thak you, dear friend. I learnt a lot by means of this blog, thanks to people like you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • eernie1

    Andrea, Thank you for your replies to my questions. I am probably 20 years older than you so I hope this encourages you to expect at least this much longevity for yourself.Your work and others in LENR have added a lot of enjoyment to my latter years and I hope that I can witness the fruition of your labors. I look forward and with great anticipation to the publishing of the Rossi effect. I wish you all the best of luck.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie:
    I agree with what you say now; it is true that the neutrinos have made respected the conservation of the leptons parity in the equations of many Feynman diagrams, but they cannot do it in the electron capture described in LENR theories, which, therefore, do not respect the leptons conservation law. Therefore such theories are wrong. The mechanism that allows the production of energy by means of the so called Rossi Effect is totally different.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Andreas Moraitis:
    The E-Cats activated by gas are still at prototypal state, therefore I am not prepared to give you a precise answer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • eernie1

    Andrea, You are right to consider the conservation of Lepton parity in any proposed electron mechanism. This is why the neutrino was devised and experimentally discovered. It has explained many of the previous experimental results which required a balance to be observed and this is why I think electron involvement can be proposed in LENR effects.

  • Andreas Moraitis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Some time ago you have mentioned that your E-Cats could be powered either by electricity or by gas. Here in Germany the kWh price for electricity is about 4.5 times higher than the kWh price for natural gas. Even if the running costs for a thermal reactor with an electric input and a COP of 6 would be significantly lower than the costs for a conventional gas heating, I suppose with a gas powered system they would be drastically lower. I assume that the gas powered reactors still need some electric input. Can we expect that the amount of electric energy that is consumed by a gas powered E-Cat will be negligible?

    Best regards,
    Andreas Moraitis

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    All the experiments made by us have not given evidence of what you say. I am not informed about experiments that have ( with a minimum of credibility).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • eernie1

    Andrea, Perhaps another misinterpretation, the electron does not decay, the radioactive nuclei decay. It is called reverse Beta decay and has been observed. The lighter ZN nuclei isotopes emit Beta+(positrons) the heavier nuclei emit Beta-(electrons).The math has been done many times. Have you measured the various types of electrons generated by your process? Beta electrons have narrow spectral signatures, conversion electron spectra are very broad(because of neutrino involvement)electrons created by internal shell movements(upper shell electrons filling the vacancies of the K shell electrons)emit optical photons. Every process involving LENR that has been reported involves the possibility of creating large negative electric fields(electron clusters, negative ions, high voltage discharges)imposed upon outer shell electron configurations. Nano structures allow close approach enhanced by cracks in the lattice structures. This influence exerts itself down to the 1s electrons which are then forced into the nuclei creating the nuclear decay.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N Karels:
    You are right, as a matter of fact I talked of costs, not market prices.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Electrons do not decay and leptons are conserved. Besides, the mass of neutrinos, even if it is not zero, is evanescent to the point to be unmeasurable.
    Said this, make your equations.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Interesting.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Valery Tarasov:
    I agree. We have now a good theory about the so called Rossi Effect, but I am interested to receive your paper: info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Valery Tarasov

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    No doubts, the experiments have priority in the research/developing of working devices, and a theory can come later. Nevertheless, the theory can help in experiments design. I would like to suggest to you a general theory comprising a section with possible explanation of LENR. I hope it can help you in your practical work. If you are interested, at which e-mail can I send the pdf file?
    Best wishes,
    Valery

  • Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, i just received a Newsletter from Global Alliance For Clean Cook Stoves.
    They want to distribute 100 million Clean Cook Stoves by 2020.
    People are dying every day because they use Charcoal Cook Stoves.
    Plus they cut down all the trees on a Mountain side to make the Charcoal.
    When they have a heavy rain, the mud slides down the Mountain and buries the
    Village and the 5,000 people in it.
    They do not try to recover the bodies, they are already buried.
    Most people are not aware of this problem, but now you are, thanks to me !

    Dr. Rossi, it would be nice if you had an inexpensive E-Cat Cook Stove.
    They spend money on Charcoal every day.
    Maybe you can do this in your spare time !
    Robert
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  • eernie1

    Andrea, Perhaps we are talking about two different electron capture mechanisms. I am not discussing a Borghi type capture but a K shell type capture first observed by L. Alvarez in 1937. This capture is considered a method for radioactive elements to allow their decays to proceed. I think a similar mechanism can induce a non radioactive element to also release some of its nuclear energy.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    While the consumable costs of a Nickel-Hydrogen system will be very small, perhaps $0.01/kWh? This does not mean the consumer will see rates at that amount. There are other costs… Look at Hydro-Electric power. Rates are not zero.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Make the equations and you will discover that the lepton conservation law is not respected. ” Electron capture” has never been really observed for this reason: it is a sort of an Arab Phoenix. All the theories based on this effect are groundless. This is my opinion. Ready to change it if experimental evidence of electron capture will be produced.
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  • eernie1

    Andrea, I am puzzled by your reply to New Quark. The neutrino(also a lepton)can assume a variety of energies and can balance any required conservation of energy scheme. A neutrino is often emitted whenever an electron interacts with the nucleus.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Curiosone:
    Interesting, but I think that small nuclear plants could not have the economy scale necessary to pay all the costs necessary for safety and still be competitive.
    I think this is the core problem.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    NewQuark:
    I am honoured that NASA has taken seriously our work and compete with us: at last, we have a serious Competitor! About their theory, it is wrong: electron capture does not respect the lepton conservation law.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    Probably I have still 10- 15 maximum years to live. What counts for me is that this technology gives all it can give, then I will go back to the Universal Spirit with all I got when I have been born: nothing, but light.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, Paul Bennett a PhD candidate thinks you may become the
    Worlds first Trillionaire.

    Google:
    PAUL BENNETT E-CAT PART 2 SEPT. 28, 2011
    Click On:
    An Economist looks at the E-Cat (part two)
    Posted September 28, 2011
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA
    P.S. I agree with him.
    There are 7 billion people in the World, more then
    2 billion have the Internet.
    Who is not going to want a Unit that will reduce their
    Electric Bill 90% with zero emissions ?
    Suppose you sell 2 billion people a Unit and you only want
    to make $500 profit.
    2 billion X $500 = one Trillion.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italian R:
    We want this tech at a global service.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are working at high temperatures and studying the best possible applications.
    Power production is a core target.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, you have written:

    “you got it: ” lavolale, lavolale!””

    I know that this is a kind of joke, but it seems to me that it is connected in some way to China, considering the last events…Am I wrong?

    Working Regard,
    Italo R.

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