Dr Rossi,
You are under very strong pressure, for the litigation from one side and the tests and your enterpreneurial engagements from the other: are you under regular clinical control ? How is your health in this period ? I saw worrying photos recently.
God bless you,
Erik
Naples:
I am very glad of this: I am proud to have been informed that they have been helped by a Reader of the JoNP !
Good luck to them !
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jose’:
In vacuum yes, but in not-vacuum environment electrons are slowed by the interactions with the molecules around, therefore the correlated magnetic fields carry more energy, therefore the symmetry is broken.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Re: “more information before taking important decisions”
A power plant that fits in a shoe box is an incredible opportunity for your investors and I am always an optimist. Since all indications so far have been favorable, is it POSSIBLE that these “important decisions” could result in your increasing the production planned for the near future F8?
Dear Andrea,
Are you running the tests by yourself or do you have a technical crew(how many and what are their special capabilities)? Does the customer have a technical crew in attendance?
If they have agreed to an extended test period, does this indicate they have seen positive results and require more specific data on a function they like?
Technical regards.
The test started at the end of May and was supposed to last 7 days. Now this should be the last day of the test.
Has anything changed the schedule?
If so, what did?
Dr. Rossi and Readers, please Google:
TEXAS WILL USE SOLAR TO REPLACE COAL
Click on:
Solar Will Replace Nearly All Retiring Coal in Texas
I think E-Cat will be in this Picture, Big Time.
Robert Curto
Ft. Lauderdale Florida
USA
Thank you for your response. I had not considered fuel cell technology as an analog. I also agree, to the extent that I can confirm this, that Andrea Rossi’s answers are true, consistent and logical. That is one reason I read and respond on this site.
I believe my previous questions are still valid. For eCat technology to be economically competitive, it must be more cost effective than current power generation means. This could be done by efficiency or with other considerations (cost of fuel, environmental impacts, etc.). Since it appears this application is being studied, there must be the potential to achieve that goal.
Without going into specific data (F8), how would you describe the reactions so far of your testing partners to what they are seeing in the E-Cat QuarkX testing?
==========
AND HERE IS AN UPDATE OF TODAY, JULY 8TH 2013:
The past three days have been holidays for most, but for us have been a tremendous period of work during which we made a historic page for what concerns our tech:
for the first time, an E-Cat module, entirely produced by our USA Partner in the new factory (a magnificence), charged with the charge made by the Partner’s CEO, using the materials we teached to buy, prepare, manipulate, treat, to make the charges, assembled, insulated, has started its operation, and the results are the same of the E-Cats built by us.
This event means that for the first time an E-Cat not built by me, not controlled by me and not charged by me, not tested in my factory, but manufactured from third parties upon our instructions and know how has worked properly.
This is the first unit of the plant that will give to the factory of our USA Partner all its necessary thermal energy, and is also the school ship for the employees.
It is very important that it has been completely made by the Customer, not by me: it is the first of millions, but the first is always special.
We celebrated with Coca Cola (alcohol is forbidden in that factory).
All the former plants, even if built in the USA, had been supplied with reactors cores made by me, so this is a very important step.
==========
Back then we did not know IH was the partner that had achieved this result.
Sure seems Rossi did it fact transfer all the IP to IH.
Eric Woudenberg, Rodney Nicholson:
I am very sorry for these problems and strongly sympathyze with the team of this very useful blog that is http://www.rossilivecat.com
I hope all our Readers able to help Eric Woudenberg and his Team will help them. Also this blog of the JoNP has been attacked many times, as well as my computer, but with good IT guys is possible to defend our information. We all have a suspect, that has been born by strange coincidences…remember what happened to Sifferkoll ? Anyway, also in that case, good and sound IT can build up the necessary defensive wall.
My suggestion to Eric Woudenberg is: if you do not have him already, get a good Internet Technology guy: he can menage to make difficult to stop your blog for more than short periods.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rodney Nicholson at June 1, 2016 at 11:40 AM wrote:
> I will bet it is a hacker at work.
> And I will give everyone ten guesses who it is that is behind it.
Hi Rodney,
In fact, my site (rossilivecat.com) is under a DDOS attack. Would you kindly get in touch if you can supply any suggestions as to who might be causing it?
Dear Steven N. Karels,
I share most – if not all – of your curiosities.
About the information that is no longer “for free” on JONP:
QuarkX was created after a vision, more than it was an evolutionary version of the E-Cat. The MW devices are more an evolution of the original invention.
It is not forbidden to have visions, but if you preach too much about these visions, then your competitors, a.k.a. “former friends”, will put you at the stake, and then steal your ideas. (As Joan of Arc)
Please remark that Andrea Rossi did not answer “no” on your last question. He’s always (say 99%) honest. That’s a bit of a weak spot, but this makes it worth to remain true to him.
Thrust and direct electricity production were mentioned and confirmed more than once.
Carnot machines have worse efficiency than fuelcell technology (Bloom energy, used in data centers). If we study this, then it becomes clear that maybe in E-Cat technology the same basics for improvement can be found. Especially by Andrea Rossi who is an expert in both matters.
Ing. Giordan Colonna:
Yes, you are right: I worked years ago with engineers of ENEL in Italy ( ENEL is by far the biggest power provider of Italy) and they used to measure the energy exactly with the same system.
By the way, the ERV that made the measurements of the 1 MW E-Cat has experience from a nuclear power plant where he worked as a nuclear engineer.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Based on some of your other answers, I’m wondering is the ongoing QuarkX test executed by the your new potential customer/partner or is this a joint effort? That is, is the test a “hands-off” test being performed entirely by them?
Dear Andrea,
To be clear: if somebody is interested to a plant or to an agreement related to the E-Cat in the USA, which entity has to put himself in contact with ?
Thanks,
JPR
Dr Andrea Rossi:
The measurement protocol described in the agreement between Leonardo Corp and IH, deposited with your complaint, is perfect. It is the system normally used in all the thermoelectric plants where I, as an engineer expert of the matter, have to make such measurements.
This is to answer to all the non experts that talk of the matter.
Cheers,
Giordano
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I watched http://www.leonardocorporation.com
What a great update !
Thank you for all the informattion you put in this website.
Jacques
Gerard McEk:
The test is not yet finished, but I can anticipate as follows:
1- F8
2- so far moreless yes
3- no
4- no
Thank you for your sympathy,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N.Karels:
That’s part of a specific R&D on course for jet application, but the stage is very immature, so I have not yet information worth to be published.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Thank you for addressing my question. While your comments are relevant to the current ongoing litigation and the patent process in general, I do not think I was asking questions which, by their nature, were process specific that might be used in a legal action or a patent process. I do long for the olden days of JONP when simple answers could be addressed without nearly always automatic rejection or disclaimer. But such is the passage of time.
My questions were very general. Does AR, given the knowledge gained over the last few years of very productive work, foresee electrical power generation using eCat technology? He use to acknowledge this possibility in previous years readily on JONP. I was looking to see if his perspective(s) had changed.
For years, the assumption was a Carnot based electrical power generation approach, most likely replacing coal-fueled power generation with the obvious reductions in environmental impacts. We even had discussions about the efficacy of using natural gas as the heat source for the eCat process as the generated electricity from such a power generation plant was “too expensive” to be consumed in such a feedback process. That was when the expected COP was 6 as opposed to an effective long term COP of 20 or 30. Things have changed and I asked the question.
The next question dealt with direct electrical power generation – bypassing the traditional steam production and turbines and going to a system that produces some form of electrical power directly which is later transformed (with some conversion loss) into a usable form of electricity. Obviously, it does little good to produce electricity if it cannot be used by the customers.
The third question dealt with comparative efficiencies. If electricity can be produced by an eCat technology-based Carnot process (which requires a higher operating temperature than 100C for efficiency purposes) and the process is to be competitive with current Carnot cycle electrical power generation systems which have an efficiency at or above 40%, then the eCat must theoretically be able to produce a working fluid temperature at or above current systems. If the eCat system, conceptually, can produce direct electrical generation, then to be commercially competitive with the Carnot cycle based units, its over all efficiency including transformation efficiency, must be equal to or greater than that achieved using the Carnot approach. Unless there are other considerations. These other considerations could possibly include environmental, such as a reduced waste heat impact on the local environment or such improved reliability or cost avoidance of replacement or consumable parts that the lower efficiency is acceptable.
So I do not ask for the “secret sauce or flavor”, but only clarification of where the “vision” leads this promising technology. It has been six years since AR burst upon the JONP scene with the eCat revelation. The earlier years revealed much about a possible golden era of low cost, pollution free energy generation. Not so much now. Information release and informed response is more limited, almost superficial. With the customary F8s, too soon, I cannot answer… I long for the informed exchange of ideas, concepts and derivative calculations.
Dear Andrea,
The tests on the QuarkX’s are probably finished now.
1. Are you pleased about how it went?
2. You tested three of them. Were they the same?
3. Or were they ‘tuned’ to optimize for Light, Heat and Electrical energy?
4. Did you also test it in combination with a jet?
You told us that this week will be of utmost importance. I wish you all the fortune in your new partnering effort and that it will be the right choice for a long and fruitful future!
Kind regards, Gerard
Dear Andrea,
Is the test on course generating more patents ?
Cheers,
John
Dr Rossi,
You are under very strong pressure, for the litigation from one side and the tests and your enterpreneurial engagements from the other: are you under regular clinical control ? How is your health in this period ? I saw worrying photos recently.
God bless you,
Erik
Naples:
I am very glad of this: I am proud to have been informed that they have been helped by a Reader of the JoNP !
Good luck to them !
Warm Regards,
A.R.
M.:
Thanks to you for your sympathy.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jose’:
In vacuum yes, but in not-vacuum environment electrons are slowed by the interactions with the molecules around, therefore the correlated magnetic fields carry more energy, therefore the symmetry is broken.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jobert:
F8 is a conventional symbol that means ” all the R&D on course with the QuarkX could end up with negative results”.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Luis Navarro:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
The secon posting today by http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/the-increasingly-creepy-fred-zoepfl-is-now-making-open-threats-from-the-ecn-troll-dungeon/
Best
Luis
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Can you remind us what does mean when you write “F8”?
Cheers,
Jobert
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Electric fields and their induced magnetic fields are symmetric ?
Dear Andrea
Thank you for your neverending work: I sympathyze with your F8 anxiety, you surely are under strong pressure for it.
Godspeed,
M.
Mr Andrea Rossi,
http://www.rossilivecat.com is returned in service !
Naples
Peter Gluck:
Thank you for your link,
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
EGO OUT today says these:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/06/june-07-2016-increasing-effectiveness.html
All the best,
peter
Eernie1:
We are a team, with experience in electronic engineering and nuclear physics. Yes to the second.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tom Conover:
F8.
Besides: in Physics nothing is impossible, but everything is associated to a probability field.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Re: “more information before taking important decisions”
A power plant that fits in a shoe box is an incredible opportunity for your investors and I am always an optimist. Since all indications so far have been favorable, is it POSSIBLE that these “important decisions” could result in your increasing the production planned for the near future F8?
Your friend,
Tom
PS: Thank you!
Dear Andrea,
Are you running the tests by yourself or do you have a technical crew(how many and what are their special capabilities)? Does the customer have a technical crew in attendance?
If they have agreed to an extended test period, does this indicate they have seen positive results and require more specific data on a function they like?
Technical regards.
Robert Curto:
Thank you for the information.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
PG:
Yes, we need more information before taking important decisions. The test will be a week longer.
F8.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
The test started at the end of May and was supposed to last 7 days. Now this should be the last day of the test.
Has anything changed the schedule?
If so, what did?
Thank you.
Dr. Rossi and Readers, please Google:
TEXAS WILL USE SOLAR TO REPLACE COAL
Click on:
Solar Will Replace Nearly All Retiring Coal in Texas
I think E-Cat will be in this Picture, Big Time.
Robert Curto
Ft. Lauderdale Florida
USA
Engeneer48:
Yes, it had been an important day, I remember it.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Luis Navarro:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
Optimistic.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Koen Vandewalle,
Thank you for your response. I had not considered fuel cell technology as an analog. I also agree, to the extent that I can confirm this, that Andrea Rossi’s answers are true, consistent and logical. That is one reason I read and respond on this site.
I believe my previous questions are still valid. For eCat technology to be economically competitive, it must be more cost effective than current power generation means. This could be done by efficiency or with other considerations (cost of fuel, environmental impacts, etc.). Since it appears this application is being studied, there must be the potential to achieve that goal.
Dear Andrea,
Without going into specific data (F8), how would you describe the reactions so far of your testing partners to what they are seeing in the E-Cat QuarkX testing?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea,
The latest article from http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/is-fred-zoepfl-totally-losing-it-in-the-ecn-dungeon-since-revealed-as-an-ih-insider/#respond
Best
Luis
Lest we forget:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=810&cpage=2#comment-734612
Slight reformatting was done to improve readability and the year, 2013, added.
==========
AND HERE IS AN UPDATE OF TODAY, JULY 8TH 2013:
The past three days have been holidays for most, but for us have been a tremendous period of work during which we made a historic page for what concerns our tech:
for the first time, an E-Cat module, entirely produced by our USA Partner in the new factory (a magnificence), charged with the charge made by the Partner’s CEO, using the materials we teached to buy, prepare, manipulate, treat, to make the charges, assembled, insulated, has started its operation, and the results are the same of the E-Cats built by us.
This event means that for the first time an E-Cat not built by me, not controlled by me and not charged by me, not tested in my factory, but manufactured from third parties upon our instructions and know how has worked properly.
This is the first unit of the plant that will give to the factory of our USA Partner all its necessary thermal energy, and is also the school ship for the employees.
It is very important that it has been completely made by the Customer, not by me: it is the first of millions, but the first is always special.
We celebrated with Coca Cola (alcohol is forbidden in that factory).
All the former plants, even if built in the USA, had been supplied with reactors cores made by me, so this is a very important step.
==========
Back then we did not know IH was the partner that had achieved this result.
Sure seems Rossi did it fact transfer all the IP to IH.
Tom Conover:
Still very promising.
We are working very hard and very well.
Still F8.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Today was an important day in the testing for you, and we all are hoping that things went smoothly. Did the QuarkX(3) perform carefree for you today?
Thank you,
Tom
Eric Woudenberg, Rodney Nicholson:
I am very sorry for these problems and strongly sympathyze with the team of this very useful blog that is
http://www.rossilivecat.com
I hope all our Readers able to help Eric Woudenberg and his Team will help them. Also this blog of the JoNP has been attacked many times, as well as my computer, but with good IT guys is possible to defend our information. We all have a suspect, that has been born by strange coincidences…remember what happened to Sifferkoll ? Anyway, also in that case, good and sound IT can build up the necessary defensive wall.
My suggestion to Eric Woudenberg is: if you do not have him already, get a good Internet Technology guy: he can menage to make difficult to stop your blog for more than short periods.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rodney Nicholson at June 1, 2016 at 11:40 AM wrote:
> I will bet it is a hacker at work.
> And I will give everyone ten guesses who it is that is behind it.
Hi Rodney,
In fact, my site (rossilivecat.com) is under a DDOS attack. Would you kindly get in touch if you can supply any suggestions as to who might be causing it?
Thank you,
Eric Woudenberg
eric.woudenberg@gmail.com
Dear Steven N. Karels,
I share most – if not all – of your curiosities.
About the information that is no longer “for free” on JONP:
QuarkX was created after a vision, more than it was an evolutionary version of the E-Cat. The MW devices are more an evolution of the original invention.
It is not forbidden to have visions, but if you preach too much about these visions, then your competitors, a.k.a. “former friends”, will put you at the stake, and then steal your ideas. (As Joan of Arc)
Please remark that Andrea Rossi did not answer “no” on your last question. He’s always (say 99%) honest. That’s a bit of a weak spot, but this makes it worth to remain true to him.
Thrust and direct electricity production were mentioned and confirmed more than once.
Carnot machines have worse efficiency than fuelcell technology (Bloom energy, used in data centers). If we study this, then it becomes clear that maybe in E-Cat technology the same basics for improvement can be found. Especially by Andrea Rossi who is an expert in both matters.
Kind Regards,
Koen
Peter Gluck:
Thank you for your link
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
a bit tempestuous week-start for my blog:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/06/jun-06-2016-lenr-advice-bury-hatchet.html
The next days will be MUCH better,
Peter
Jacques:
Thank you for your attention,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ing. Giordan Colonna:
Yes, you are right: I worked years ago with engineers of ENEL in Italy ( ENEL is by far the biggest power provider of Italy) and they used to measure the energy exactly with the same system.
By the way, the ERV that made the measurements of the 1 MW E-Cat has experience from a nuclear power plant where he worked as a nuclear engineer.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
Leonardo Corporation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter Metz:
It is a joint effort, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Based on some of your other answers, I’m wondering is the ongoing QuarkX test executed by the your new potential customer/partner or is this a joint effort? That is, is the test a “hands-off” test being performed entirely by them?
Wishing you positive F8,
Peter Metz
Dear Andrea,
To be clear: if somebody is interested to a plant or to an agreement related to the E-Cat in the USA, which entity has to put himself in contact with ?
Thanks,
JPR
Dr Andrea Rossi:
The measurement protocol described in the agreement between Leonardo Corp and IH, deposited with your complaint, is perfect. It is the system normally used in all the thermoelectric plants where I, as an engineer expert of the matter, have to make such measurements.
This is to answer to all the non experts that talk of the matter.
Cheers,
Giordano
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I watched
http://www.leonardocorporation.com
What a great update !
Thank you for all the informattion you put in this website.
Jacques
Engineer48:
Thank you for the link.
I cannot comment, being an issue to be discussed in Court.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gerard McEk:
The test is not yet finished, but I can anticipate as follows:
1- F8
2- so far moreless yes
3- no
4- no
Thank you for your sympathy,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N.Karels:
That’s part of a specific R&D on course for jet application, but the stage is very immature, so I have not yet information worth to be published.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I noticed in one of the responses a reference to “Thrust” being produced by an eCat reactor. I may be in error on this reading.
If I read correctly, as you saying you observed a net thrust during testing? Is this a reactionless thrust (no mass ejection based)?
Dear Koen Vandewalle,
Thank you for addressing my question. While your comments are relevant to the current ongoing litigation and the patent process in general, I do not think I was asking questions which, by their nature, were process specific that might be used in a legal action or a patent process. I do long for the olden days of JONP when simple answers could be addressed without nearly always automatic rejection or disclaimer. But such is the passage of time.
My questions were very general. Does AR, given the knowledge gained over the last few years of very productive work, foresee electrical power generation using eCat technology? He use to acknowledge this possibility in previous years readily on JONP. I was looking to see if his perspective(s) had changed.
For years, the assumption was a Carnot based electrical power generation approach, most likely replacing coal-fueled power generation with the obvious reductions in environmental impacts. We even had discussions about the efficacy of using natural gas as the heat source for the eCat process as the generated electricity from such a power generation plant was “too expensive” to be consumed in such a feedback process. That was when the expected COP was 6 as opposed to an effective long term COP of 20 or 30. Things have changed and I asked the question.
The next question dealt with direct electrical power generation – bypassing the traditional steam production and turbines and going to a system that produces some form of electrical power directly which is later transformed (with some conversion loss) into a usable form of electricity. Obviously, it does little good to produce electricity if it cannot be used by the customers.
The third question dealt with comparative efficiencies. If electricity can be produced by an eCat technology-based Carnot process (which requires a higher operating temperature than 100C for efficiency purposes) and the process is to be competitive with current Carnot cycle electrical power generation systems which have an efficiency at or above 40%, then the eCat must theoretically be able to produce a working fluid temperature at or above current systems. If the eCat system, conceptually, can produce direct electrical generation, then to be commercially competitive with the Carnot cycle based units, its over all efficiency including transformation efficiency, must be equal to or greater than that achieved using the Carnot approach. Unless there are other considerations. These other considerations could possibly include environmental, such as a reduced waste heat impact on the local environment or such improved reliability or cost avoidance of replacement or consumable parts that the lower efficiency is acceptable.
So I do not ask for the “secret sauce or flavor”, but only clarification of where the “vision” leads this promising technology. It has been six years since AR burst upon the JONP scene with the eCat revelation. The earlier years revealed much about a possible golden era of low cost, pollution free energy generation. Not so much now. Information release and informed response is more limited, almost superficial. With the customary F8s, too soon, I cannot answer… I long for the informed exchange of ideas, concepts and derivative calculations.
Dear Andrea,
The tests on the QuarkX’s are probably finished now.
1. Are you pleased about how it went?
2. You tested three of them. Were they the same?
3. Or were they ‘tuned’ to optimize for Light, Heat and Electrical energy?
4. Did you also test it in combination with a jet?
You told us that this week will be of utmost importance. I wish you all the fortune in your new partnering effort and that it will be the right choice for a long and fruitful future!
Kind regards, Gerard