Hi Andrea,
You are making strong researches so late in life. It is hard to imagine what you would have done if you had started early in life. Both Newton and Einstein published four land mark papers in one year (Annus Mirabilis), when they were 26.
When do you think your Annus Mirabilis will come. Remember that it should be much easier for you to make discoveries when you don’t need to apply for funds, go thru peer review, do indipendent tests. You have found a good model with secret customers, secret tests and secret theories. It sure speeds things up.
Recalling the Lagunao testing, the eCat reactor was about 20cm in length and 2cm is diamters and the reactor output about 2400W of thermal power. The newest eCat (that we know about) is 1mm is diameter and 30mm in length and outputs 100W. So the power density has gone from 38W/cc to 4240W/cc.
Likewise, the effective COP has moved from around 6 to about 200. Quite an improvement!
Is there any reason to believe the newest eCat cannot be scaled up in size, say by a factor of three in all dimensions, and produce between 9 and 27 times the thermal output power?
It is now abundantly clear that your great invention works and it works with a very high COP which is above 100. This is a game changer. This is comparable to the transistor in the electronics technology. The transistor transformed electronics from a cumbersome and expensive method to make electrons do what you would want them to do by means of valves, to a one driven by microscopic devices that can process data in trillions of operations per second.
Your Quark X is the transistor of all types of power generation.
My question, based on the way that the transistor evolved during the years, is that the electronic manufacturers did not wait for the solid-state transistor invention to be developed into a unit comprising of million transistors residing in a microchip the size of my fingernail, but commenced building electronic circuits out of single transistors advancing the technology with each year that passed.
I suppose that the Quark X will experience the same type of evolution and that you will not wait to design a 1000 MW power station as your first production output, but maybe a simple and humble modular unit of say 10kW for our delectation and use.
Can you propose a year when we may see this happening?
Is this far away?
You wrote: Thank you for the link, but my opinion is did all the energy sources are precious and must be integrated. We are not the “first of the classroom”.
That’s a very good point, I think it is ultimately a pure question of cost:
Since you are planning to produce electricity with your ECAT Quark X, give my calculations, that at the given energy density of your ECAT fuel, combined with raw material costs, transportation costs, production costs for equipment and maintenance costs etc. your LENR Technology is far superior to all other today existing energy sources.
For me the question arises, whether there can be a juxtaposition of LENR technology and existing forms of energy production?
Uwe Doms:
Thank you for the link, but my opinion is that all the energy sources are precious and must be integrated. We are not the “first of the classroom”.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
When you consume half Wh/h making 100 Wh/h you are basically in permanent SSM. Better than this is impossible.
You need anyway a drive.
Disclaimer: the results need to be verified.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
You have stated that during the recent QuarkX testing that the reactors did not run in self-sustain mode. Is it possible for them to run in SSM like the e-cats used in the 1MW plant?
Ovviamente, dal momento che ha tantissime applicazioni militare, ne Russia ne China ne India ne Israele rispetteranno i brevett!
La temperatura raggiunta permette di produrre idrogeno dall’acqua per via termochimica diretta!
Dunque avvia l’ economia dell’ idrogeno… Niente guerre per il Litio. Marcia funebre per l’ inquinantissimo nucleare a fissione dell’ uranio, plutonio, torio, ecc.
It is a very difficult position to say you did not pay the man the tens of millions you owe him because the product does not work, and at the same time sue the man for control of the territory where he is manufacturing working product. IH has made it’s decision.
They bought rights to a different product which they say does not work, even if they maintained the rights from the initial payment, Rossi will be manufacturing a different product.
I expect that any rational judge would club IH like a baby seal if they contest the territory after having abandon the payment obligation on a technicality. It really looks like IH was only trying to kill off Rossi as potential competition for some other client.
I sincerely doubt there will be any lingering legalities. You are either on the bus or off the bus.
Installed worldwide capacity, in 2012, of approx 6,800,000 MWe which would need say 20,400,000 MWt of 600C steam and at say $1m / MWt that equals approx $20 trillion in sales. Imagine the recharge business from 20,400,000 1MW Quark reactors! Nice business if you can get it!
Dear Andrea,
Congratulations to your latest QuarkX tests. As an enginner I understand the tremendous work that lies ahead from doing a sucessful test to have a running production line.
Improve the properties of the QuarkX (higher electrical output, better safety), improve the control loop (software), adapt the contol hardware to multiple quarks, build electronics to transform the electrical output to standard voltage (AC/DC), build prototypes with different numbers of multiple quarks, design suitable heat exchangers, deside what parts should be produced in the factory from scratch, what parts that can be bought as standard off the shelf, and what parts that are specially ordered from subcontractors, how to design the assembly line, how to hire skilled workers/engineers/consultants, how to program the robots, how to make a test station in the production line to test the complete product, how to document all processes, how to make a CE-certification (EU self certification ) of the product.
When starting to make a new product one must first do smaller series to trim the production line before making big numbers. Most companies that invent a new product usually have years of experience of manufacturing simular older products.
I know that you have a great team but it is easy to forget some details in the process to manufacture a new successful product.
Best Regards,
Karl-Henrik
Dear Andrea,
Congratulations for the positive preliminary test results of “X”.
I read comments here carefully and when there is reason to write, I write. If I’m silent, like now I have been for some months, it means that during this time I have not disagreed with anything major written here about the E-cat or its development strategy.
best regards, /pekka
PS. There is a cluster of 400 greenhouse farmers in Närpiö municipality, Finland, which is located in the Swedish-speaking part of Finland on the western coast. The small community has 0.77 square kilometres of greenhouse area where they produce 60% of all tomatoes and 35% of all cucumbers consumed in Finland, among other things. Being Swedish-speaking, they are well connected with Sweden. Almost your countrymen, that is. Also entrepreneurially minded. Compared to normal farming, greenhouse farming saves a lot of land area for other use: for free nature, in particular. This will be one of the largest positive ecological impacts of the E-cat, I’m sure.
If you will add a physicist specialized in optics and photonics to your Team,
you may want to add a requirement, “good knowledge of thermophotovoltaics”.
There have been some theoretical advances in this area during the last couple of years,
they were meant for the solar industry, but you may be able to benefit from them.
Some of the most interesting papers I found are:
“Thin-film ‘Thermal Well’ Emitters and Absorbers for High-Efficiency Thermophotovoltaics” and
“Ultra High Efficiency Thermo-Photovoltaic Solar Cells Using Metallic Photonic Crystals As Intermediate Absorber and Emitter”
The QuarkX seems for now to be developed into just one product line, but to get most light you need to convert heat
into broadband light, while for TPV electricity generation a narrowband conversion is much better, because of PV efficiency.
So having two product lines based on QuarkX, one optimised for light, the other for electricity, may be a business option to consider.
Dear Dr. Andrea Rossi.
You, the great scientist, a strong man.
I’m tired of reading about f9 and f8.
These dog tails (lawyers) circling a huge dog.
Time to slap his hand on the table.
It’s time to do business.
Lawyers involved in patents and let the courts.
Can not? Kicked out and recruit new ones.
ih? Let the lawyers involved, and you just forget.
Where a house cat?
Where a boiler room 1 MW?
No time?
We need a manager?
Whistle, you can already.
Sorry for the harshness of tone.
I have great respect for you.
I’m proud of you vozmozhnot write and receive an answer.
Gerard McEk:
1- Yes
2- yes for the COP, but I never said the recharge is in 2 years: it still is 1 year ( respect the original 6 mo)
3- I am not able to give a calendar for the QuarkX. I never gave for certain that it would be ready within the 2016. I said I hoped it. Such hope has not been lost. Not yet, at least.
4- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi:
Is it possible to use hydrogen QuarkX heat in a nuclear rocket engine? In these engines, working on uranium NERVA thrust to weight ratio was 3.4: 1 and a specific impulse of 850 seconds (at a temperature of 2000 K). Hopefully QuarkX instead of uranium will be at least as effective, but without the risk of contamination inherent NERVA (sorry for my English).
Gunnar Lindberg:
So far we cann accept orders only for industrial plants of the kind tested for one year. The domestic line of the classic E-Cat has not yet obtained the necessary safety certifications. About the QuarkX, the preliminar R&D phase has been completed, but now comes a hard work to bring it to be a product.
I am optimist, though.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Errol:
I published these preliminar results, after the preliminar R&D made internally by us, not to proclaim a validation, but to give information, saying adamantly that the results are preliminar and need confirmation. The information is important, the photo I published is a mine of information extremely important ( for persons able to read it) and I published all this for enthusiasm to be shared with our Readers, but with a clear disclaimer that I am continuing to repeat.
Obviously the validation of a product will have, in due time, a different kind of base.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I hope you will be able to answer the following questions for us:
1. At the E-cat.com site I read that the commercial phase of the 1MW units would start in the first quarters of 2016. Is that still the case?
2. Will the technical specifications of the 1 MW unit be adapted in the light of the one year test results (like COP (>6) and recharging frequency (2/y)).
3. You said the first hot-cat based unit will be delivered in England probably this year. Is that still the case? (I assume it is related to 4.)
4. You said the QuarkX still needs some improvement. I would assume that would delay the commercialization of it. Is that true?
Thanks and kind regards, Gerard
Dear Andrea,
Thousands of E-Cat customers, myself included, are waiting for the delivery of a domestic reactor to warm our homes. What is the problem, why is the reactor not certified?
Warm Regards,
Gunnar Lindberg
Amos:
Before I answer a disclaimer must be repeated: the tests on the QuarkX E-Cat are still on course and all the results need repetitions and confirmations. The results obtained so far are very promising, but safety problems must be resolved and such safety problems will reduce the COP, independently from other factors. Nevertheless, I am very glad of the work done so far and the numbers you cited are the number we got, but, again, these numbers cannot be considered ¨five sigma¨.
It is also important the strong development we got for what concerns the theoretical bases of the effect, in full rtespect of the Standard Model. I strongly believe I have understood it. Soon will work on it with Prof. Norman Cook.
Nevertheless, again, much work has to be done before getting the five sigma and a solid theoretical interpretation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
About the test with the Quarkx, there are in the blogs complaints that the test has been made only by you, without independent verification.
Bob K:
I am in the USA, but the negotiations are proceeding because we are going to do it. The decision has been taken. We will have two poles of manufacturing: one in the USA and one in Sweden.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tudor:
The domestic E-Cat is not yet ready and certified.
Also the QuarkX will start with industrial applications. For obvious reasons its safety certification is easier.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Andrea,
You are making strong researches so late in life. It is hard to imagine what you would have done if you had started early in life. Both Newton and Einstein published four land mark papers in one year (Annus Mirabilis), when they were 26.
When do you think your Annus Mirabilis will come. Remember that it should be much easier for you to make discoveries when you don’t need to apply for funds, go thru peer review, do indipendent tests. You have found a good model with secret customers, secret tests and secret theories. It sure speeds things up.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Recalling the Lagunao testing, the eCat reactor was about 20cm in length and 2cm is diamters and the reactor output about 2400W of thermal power. The newest eCat (that we know about) is 1mm is diameter and 30mm in length and outputs 100W. So the power density has gone from 38W/cc to 4240W/cc.
Likewise, the effective COP has moved from around 6 to about 200. Quite an improvement!
Is there any reason to believe the newest eCat cannot be scaled up in size, say by a factor of three in all dimensions, and produce between 9 and 27 times the thermal output power?
Dear Ing. Rossi,
It is now abundantly clear that your great invention works and it works with a very high COP which is above 100. This is a game changer. This is comparable to the transistor in the electronics technology. The transistor transformed electronics from a cumbersome and expensive method to make electrons do what you would want them to do by means of valves, to a one driven by microscopic devices that can process data in trillions of operations per second.
Your Quark X is the transistor of all types of power generation.
My question, based on the way that the transistor evolved during the years, is that the electronic manufacturers did not wait for the solid-state transistor invention to be developed into a unit comprising of million transistors residing in a microchip the size of my fingernail, but commenced building electronic circuits out of single transistors advancing the technology with each year that passed.
I suppose that the Quark X will experience the same type of evolution and that you will not wait to design a 1000 MW power station as your first production output, but maybe a simple and humble modular unit of say 10kW for our delectation and use.
Can you propose a year when we may see this happening?
Is this far away?
Dear Andrea Rossi,
You wrote: Thank you for the link, but my opinion is did all the energy sources are precious and must be integrated. We are not the “first of the classroom”.
That’s a very good point, I think it is ultimately a pure question of cost:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source
Since you are planning to produce electricity with your ECAT Quark X, give my calculations, that at the given energy density of your ECAT fuel, combined with raw material costs, transportation costs, production costs for equipment and maintenance costs etc. your LENR Technology is far superior to all other today existing energy sources.
For me the question arises, whether there can be a juxtaposition of LENR technology and existing forms of energy production?
All the best
Uwe Doms
Uwe Doms:
Thank you for the link, but my opinion is that all the energy sources are precious and must be integrated. We are not the “first of the classroom”.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
When you consume half Wh/h making 100 Wh/h you are basically in permanent SSM. Better than this is impossible.
You need anyway a drive.
Disclaimer: the results need to be verified.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Amos:
1 year.
Warm Regasrds,
A.R.
Dear Rossi,
How long do you think the fuel mix would last if the Quark X is allowed to run indefinitely?
Amos
Dear Andrea,
You have stated that during the recent QuarkX testing that the reactors did not run in self-sustain mode. Is it possible for them to run in SSM like the e-cats used in the 1MW plant?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I have some news for you:
https://thenewfire.wordpress.com/conclusion-it-is-solar-power-industry-vs-leonardo-corp-ecat/
Keep the ember hot and all the best to you!
Uwe Doms
Engineer48:
Thanki you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Toussaint Francois:
We do our best indeed.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
D:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
D.Boswell:
No comment.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Giancarlo Rossi Fedele:
Thank you for your sustain,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Grazie a Dio ha raggiunto l’ agognata patente!
E si tratta di fusione nucleare “tiepida”…
Ovviamente, dal momento che ha tantissime applicazioni militare, ne Russia ne China ne India ne Israele rispetteranno i brevett!
La temperatura raggiunta permette di produrre idrogeno dall’acqua per via termochimica diretta!
Dunque avvia l’ economia dell’ idrogeno… Niente guerre per il Litio. Marcia funebre per l’ inquinantissimo nucleare a fissione dell’ uranio, plutonio, torio, ecc.
Grazie Dio per aver creato Andrea Rossi!
Hi Dr Rossi,
Seen on ECW – simple Logic:
It is a very difficult position to say you did not pay the man the tens of millions you owe him because the product does not work, and at the same time sue the man for control of the territory where he is manufacturing working product. IH has made it’s decision.
They bought rights to a different product which they say does not work, even if they maintained the rights from the initial payment, Rossi will be manufacturing a different product.
I expect that any rational judge would club IH like a baby seal if they contest the territory after having abandon the payment obligation on a technicality. It really looks like IH was only trying to kill off Rossi as potential competition for some other client.
I sincerely doubt there will be any lingering legalities. You are either on the bus or off the bus.
IH is officially off the bus.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Fantastic photo: the blu color is the color of the Rossi Effect !
Cheers,
Darius
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Congratulation for your second manufacturing site, now you your are full steam ahead to
commercialise your E-CATS !
Warm regards,
Toussaint françois
Hi Andrea,
Here are some interesting data on worldwide installed electrical generation capacity.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2236rank.html
Installed worldwide capacity, in 2012, of approx 6,800,000 MWe which would need say 20,400,000 MWt of 600C steam and at say $1m / MWt that equals approx $20 trillion in sales. Imagine the recharge business from 20,400,000 1MW Quark reactors! Nice business if you can get it!
Engineer48:
Very nice. That photo is a gold mine, but few are able to read it.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Pekka Janhunen:
Very important, thank you.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter Gluck:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Karl Henrik Malmqvist:
Thank you for your suggestion and sympathy.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Congratulations to your latest QuarkX tests. As an enginner I understand the tremendous work that lies ahead from doing a sucessful test to have a running production line.
Improve the properties of the QuarkX (higher electrical output, better safety), improve the control loop (software), adapt the contol hardware to multiple quarks, build electronics to transform the electrical output to standard voltage (AC/DC), build prototypes with different numbers of multiple quarks, design suitable heat exchangers, deside what parts should be produced in the factory from scratch, what parts that can be bought as standard off the shelf, and what parts that are specially ordered from subcontractors, how to design the assembly line, how to hire skilled workers/engineers/consultants, how to program the robots, how to make a test station in the production line to test the complete product, how to document all processes, how to make a CE-certification (EU self certification ) of the product.
When starting to make a new product one must first do smaller series to trim the production line before making big numbers. Most companies that invent a new product usually have years of experience of manufacturing simular older products.
I know that you have a great team but it is easy to forget some details in the process to manufacture a new successful product.
Best Regards,
Karl-Henrik
Dear Andrea,
Today’s edition of EO OUT:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/06/june-17-2016-organizing-rossis.html
all the best wishes,
peter
Dear Andrea,
Congratulations for the positive preliminary test results of “X”.
I read comments here carefully and when there is reason to write, I write. If I’m silent, like now I have been for some months, it means that during this time I have not disagreed with anything major written here about the E-cat or its development strategy.
best regards, /pekka
PS. There is a cluster of 400 greenhouse farmers in Närpiö municipality, Finland, which is located in the Swedish-speaking part of Finland on the western coast. The small community has 0.77 square kilometres of greenhouse area where they produce 60% of all tomatoes and 35% of all cucumbers consumed in Finland, among other things. Being Swedish-speaking, they are well connected with Sweden. Almost your countrymen, that is. Also entrepreneurially minded. Compared to normal farming, greenhouse farming saves a lot of land area for other use: for free nature, in particular. This will be one of the largest positive ecological impacts of the E-cat, I’m sure.
Dear Andrea,
I trust this RGB 3D pixel distribution of the QuarkX image might add reader interest:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=06618672108133813862&t=0661867210813381386241898
After analysing many spark and arc images, it is clear the QuarkX image is not a spark or arc image.
Nicely played Andrea, I bet even your wife could not return this curving top spin serve of yours.
Ovidiou Herlea:
Thank you for the suggestion.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Msprize:
I am not able to answer.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
DT:
Thank you for your sympathy. It’s the best help you can give right now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
If you will add a physicist specialized in optics and photonics to your Team,
you may want to add a requirement, “good knowledge of thermophotovoltaics”.
There have been some theoretical advances in this area during the last couple of years,
they were meant for the solar industry, but you may be able to benefit from them.
Some of the most interesting papers I found are:
“Thin-film ‘Thermal Well’ Emitters and Absorbers for High-Efficiency Thermophotovoltaics” and
“Ultra High Efficiency Thermo-Photovoltaic Solar Cells Using Metallic Photonic Crystals As Intermediate Absorber and Emitter”
The QuarkX seems for now to be developed into just one product line, but to get most light you need to convert heat
into broadband light, while for TPV electricity generation a narrowband conversion is much better, because of PV efficiency.
So having two product lines based on QuarkX, one optimised for light, the other for electricity, may be a business option to consider.
Best Regards,
Ovidiu Herlea
Yrka:
I am afraid things do not work that way, but we are doing our best and I ma sure we’ll do what you wish.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Andrea Rossi.
You, the great scientist, a strong man.
I’m tired of reading about f9 and f8.
These dog tails (lawyers) circling a huge dog.
Time to slap his hand on the table.
It’s time to do business.
Lawyers involved in patents and let the courts.
Can not? Kicked out and recruit new ones.
ih? Let the lawyers involved, and you just forget.
Where a house cat?
Where a boiler room 1 MW?
No time?
We need a manager?
Whistle, you can already.
Sorry for the harshness of tone.
I have great respect for you.
I’m proud of you vozmozhnot write and receive an answer.
Jury
Engineer
Tyumen, Russia.
Dear Andrea:
Thank you for the pationce and the determination you are fighting on multiple fronts with.
How can we help?
DT
Gerard McEk:
1- Yes
2- yes for the COP, but I never said the recharge is in 2 years: it still is 1 year ( respect the original 6 mo)
3- I am not able to give a calendar for the QuarkX. I never gave for certain that it would be ready within the 2016. I said I hoped it. Such hope has not been lost. Not yet, at least.
4- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi:
Is it possible to use hydrogen QuarkX heat in a nuclear rocket engine? In these engines, working on uranium NERVA thrust to weight ratio was 3.4: 1 and a specific impulse of 850 seconds (at a temperature of 2000 K). Hopefully QuarkX instead of uranium will be at least as effective, but without the risk of contamination inherent NERVA (sorry for my English).
Gunnar Lindberg:
So far we cann accept orders only for industrial plants of the kind tested for one year. The domestic line of the classic E-Cat has not yet obtained the necessary safety certifications. About the QuarkX, the preliminar R&D phase has been completed, but now comes a hard work to bring it to be a product.
I am optimist, though.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Errol:
I published these preliminar results, after the preliminar R&D made internally by us, not to proclaim a validation, but to give information, saying adamantly that the results are preliminar and need confirmation. The information is important, the photo I published is a mine of information extremely important ( for persons able to read it) and I published all this for enthusiasm to be shared with our Readers, but with a clear disclaimer that I am continuing to repeat.
Obviously the validation of a product will have, in due time, a different kind of base.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I hope you will be able to answer the following questions for us:
1. At the E-cat.com site I read that the commercial phase of the 1MW units would start in the first quarters of 2016. Is that still the case?
2. Will the technical specifications of the 1 MW unit be adapted in the light of the one year test results (like COP (>6) and recharging frequency (2/y)).
3. You said the first hot-cat based unit will be delivered in England probably this year. Is that still the case? (I assume it is related to 4.)
4. You said the QuarkX still needs some improvement. I would assume that would delay the commercialization of it. Is that true?
Thanks and kind regards, Gerard
Dear Andrea,
Thousands of E-Cat customers, myself included, are waiting for the delivery of a domestic reactor to warm our homes. What is the problem, why is the reactor not certified?
Warm Regards,
Gunnar Lindberg
Amos:
Before I answer a disclaimer must be repeated: the tests on the QuarkX E-Cat are still on course and all the results need repetitions and confirmations. The results obtained so far are very promising, but safety problems must be resolved and such safety problems will reduce the COP, independently from other factors. Nevertheless, I am very glad of the work done so far and the numbers you cited are the number we got, but, again, these numbers cannot be considered ¨five sigma¨.
It is also important the strong development we got for what concerns the theoretical bases of the effect, in full rtespect of the Standard Model. I strongly believe I have understood it. Soon will work on it with Prof. Norman Cook.
Nevertheless, again, much work has to be done before getting the five sigma and a solid theoretical interpretation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
About the test with the Quarkx, there are in the blogs complaints that the test has been made only by you, without independent verification.
Bernie Koppenhofer:
Several units like the ones used during the 1 year long test have been ordered.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bob K:
I am in the USA, but the negotiations are proceeding because we are going to do it. The decision has been taken. We will have two poles of manufacturing: one in the USA and one in Sweden.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi: Can you bring us up to date on the number of 50 COP E-Cats from the year long test you have sold. Thanks.
Dear Rossi,
Did I read correctly that the Quark X produced 0.1 KWh/h vs 0.0005 KWh/h electrical energy consumed?
Amos.
Andrea, are you still in Sweden? If so, How are negotiations for the factory building going?
Cheers, BK
Tudor:
The domestic E-Cat is not yet ready and certified.
Also the QuarkX will start with industrial applications. For obvious reasons its safety certification is easier.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
John Atkinson:
Thank you! We have just smiled together.
Warm Regards,
A.R.