Caro Rossi,
In the report that Prof Norman Cook will read at the JCF there are particulars, like the presence in the charge of tungsten, you never talked about: are these hypotizations of him or are they new troves you are patenting of on course?
Thank you if you can answer,
Eros
Viktor Shipachev ‘s idea gave me another interesting idea, that I want to share if there is someone that is willing to try it…
A Diesel engine reaches in his cylinders high pressure and temperature, enough to ignite diesel fuel without a spark. Could a mixture of hydrogen, lithium and nikel (the latter in powder form) injected in the combustion chambers ignite or the reaction is too slow?
Dr Andrea Rossi,
While in Paris they talk, talk, talk to limit the use of carbon fuels to finance the usual alternative energies that are not competitive and the smart Bill Gates is building the bases to sell his nuclear reactors that use extremely toxic radioactive atoms ( Thorium), you work, work, work to make the New Fire: this is the mood we are inspiring in these global-warming-alert days.
God bless you: if your tests will have positive results, your US Patent is the miracle they are talking about.
Kurt Klaas
Dear Andrea
The E-Cat X will be conceived in reactors of many dimensions, or you will make small mosules that will be combined to pile up any power is needed?
Cheers,
Garcia
Caro Andrea Rossi
Your test on the 1MW plant, after what is going on in Paris, where the most powerul persons of the world are reunited to find a clue to reduce the carbon fuels, is the most important thing that is going on in the world. They talk, you do. Are you aware of this?
Ciao,
Renato
Dr Joseph Fine:
For the 1MW plant it’s still 2 hours.
For the E-Cat X it is premature to give these data.
The cause of the start/stop timing is more complex.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Barney:
Very important, obviously. We have the duty to make all is possible to oppose the global warming cycle that the Earth seems to be approaching to.
To achieve this, all the Countries of the world and all the responsibles of any production field must collaborate. This would be the real miracle: to put mankind to work on it in harmony and peace. The Pope is making a momentous job in this sense.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
If the E-Cat X will confirm to work properly, could this device power a 1 MW plant analogous to the one you are testing in the factory of the customer, using an assembly of E-Cat X instead of the E-Cats ( or E Tigers) presently used?
Thank you,
Harold
Franz Loecken:
All the Countries of the world that respect the international laws related to patents. Our attorneys’ work is on course already.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Toffee:
The Global Warming will be overcome only with the help of God ( in this sense I agree with Bill Gates, in the sense that we need a miracle) and with a synergy between all the existing production systems, not only in the field of energy. This has to be studied with precision in all the existing fields, making a distinction for eny one of them.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hank Mills:
I will talk of our theory only after its publication, if it will be published.
As for the specific inforation you are asking for, patents are in preparation and I cannot make pre-disclosure in positive or in negative.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
If I have well understood, the reconciliation of the Rossi effect with the lack of high energy gamma rays by means of the reverse Mossbauer Effect is brilliant. Now I am very curious to read the mathematic structure of this intuition. I hope the publication of Cook and you will be made soon.
Godspeed,
Bradly
In Cook’s most recent abstract, he states that Tungsten is in the E-Cat fuel.
“I hypothesize that the emission of gamma rays from low-lying excited-states of Mössbauer isotopes (e.g., 57Fe, 61Ni and 183W, that are contained in the E-Cat “fuel”) can induce resonances at relatively high-energies in non-Mössbauer isotopes (e.g., 27Al, 55Mn, 58Ni, 60Ni, and 62Ni) as a consequence of the overlap of transition energies at much higher nuclear levels.”
Is he making a correct statement that accurately reflects the fuel composition, or is his statement about Tungsten pure conjecture?
Frank Acland:
Daniel Badoual, a French Engineer, has made them as a free interpretation of how a domestic E-Cat could be. The idea is good and we had from him the permission to use them with his courtesy.
Is an interesting concept.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gian Luca:
I must be honest: I am doing nothing in that direction, because I am focused exclusively on the battle I am doing, plus the R&D to prepare an alternative in case the results of the tests on course will not have positive results.
About Prof. Sergio Focardi: I have always a strong and excellent memory of him and the substantial work we made together.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
The reading of your US Patent is inspiring: one can imagine the difficulty of your work.
You are gonne be the miracle that Bill gates says we need to resolve the problem of the global warming.
Toffee
A separate question: if the E-Cat X proves to be the best E-Cat process you have, is it possible that the old-style low temperature E-Cat technology (that you are testing now) could be made obsolete, like the Gas Cat?
Dr Andrea Rossi,
I agree with a reader that said your US Patent is the most important reading of the last years in the energy field.
Greetings,
Kristen
Dear Andrea,
it is passed many years when you and prof. Forcardi started experiments whith ECAT.
Which are your “pensieri”? Sensazioni? Ricordi?
Do not you ever stop and think about what will happen next? how they will change the lives of people close to her and those of the entire world’s population? I can not believe, with its humanistic preparation, not being prepared psychologically (and perhaps physically) to “SVOLTA”. You never left anything to chance and it would be nice here, on JONP, you did understand how you are preparing for this event…..closer and closer!
Thanks
Luca
Dear Andrea,
a very simple experiment:
I forgot to specify that the cylinder should be filled with a mixture of argon with 10 percent hydrogen
The piston must be located in the middle of the cylinder
If you answer to me vship 32 @ mail.ru, I can send the drawings and detailed description of the procedure.
Steven N. Karels:
Thank you for your insight, but I prefer not to be engaged at all in all these kinds of considerations and assumptions before we will know if the results of the tests on course will allow us to enter in these matters. Any kind of assumption so far is premature, either positive or negative as it may be.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
As previously posted, the Ecat X (if successful) will use very little input energy to heat the reactor, so little that a gas-powered reactor is not optimal. What are the implications of such a reactor if it is proved to be able to be produced and is commercially available?
To produce electricity using conventional thermal-to-electric conversion, a Carnot efficiency of 40% is assumed, although slightly higher efficiencies are common in large scale commercial plants. In today’s market, natural gas is about 1/3 the cost of heating by electricity.
Some means of “buffering” is needed for safety considerations between the energy produced by the reactor and the input to the reactor so that “run-away” conditions can never occur.
With the given condition that natural gas is not the best solution for an Ecat X reactor, we can bound the lower limit on the effective COP to be greater than 7.5 (1.0/40% * 3). The pumps and control circuitry would be operated by electricity regardless of the heating source of electricity or gas but previous postings have shown this to be a small percentage of the total input energy needed. So we will ignore these inputs.
The simplest “buffering” would be a battery, charged by either the electricity grid or the output of the Ecat X reactor generated electricity. The battery would be large enough to hold sufficient energy to meet the input energy needs after start-up and during non-self sustaining modes (SSM) of operation.
Assumptions:
1. Let us assume an achievable effective COP of 4 * 7.5 or 30.
2. Let us assume a 3kW Ecat X reactor (each reactor is an independent member of an ensemble of reactors used to generate the energy for the electricity production plant).
3. Let us assume the longest SSM mode is 3 hours. Therefore with a COP of 30, the amount of energy needed to be available from the battery is 3 * 3kWhr / 30 = 0.3kWhr = 300Whr.
4. The conversion efficiency of converting the grid electricity to battery energy and then inverting it back to electricity for the input to the Ecat X should be around 50%. So 600 Whr of input electricity is needed, on the average.
A standard car battery can hold more than 600Whr of energy so this does not present a major development issue.
The percentage of produced electricity lost due to battery usage is 0.6kWhr * 100% / (3kW * 40% * 3 hr) or about 17% of the produced electricity is consumed in maintaining the charge on the battery. In return, there would be no fuel consumed after start-up during the 6 months or longer that the Ecat X reactor was in operation. And zero carbon footprint.
Nick:
All stable at 08.30 a.m. of Nov 30.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrew:
Thank you, best wishes to you too!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Today is St Andrew apostole, our onomastic: Best wishes!
Andrew
Dr Rossi:
Can we have an update for today?
Dr Andrea Rossi
What do you think of the Paris world convention on the global warming issue?
Regards,
Erik
Caro Rossi,
In the report that Prof Norman Cook will read at the JCF there are particulars, like the presence in the charge of tungsten, you never talked about: are these hypotizations of him or are they new troves you are patenting of on course?
Thank you if you can answer,
Eros
Dear Andrea,
Viktor Shipachev ‘s idea gave me another interesting idea, that I want to share if there is someone that is willing to try it…
A Diesel engine reaches in his cylinders high pressure and temperature, enough to ignite diesel fuel without a spark. Could a mixture of hydrogen, lithium and nikel (the latter in powder form) injected in the combustion chambers ignite or the reaction is too slow?
Best Regards.
Dr Andrea Rossi,
While in Paris they talk, talk, talk to limit the use of carbon fuels to finance the usual alternative energies that are not competitive and the smart Bill Gates is building the bases to sell his nuclear reactors that use extremely toxic radioactive atoms ( Thorium), you work, work, work to make the New Fire: this is the mood we are inspiring in these global-warming-alert days.
God bless you: if your tests will have positive results, your US Patent is the miracle they are talking about.
Kurt Klaas
Dear Andrea
The E-Cat X will be conceived in reactors of many dimensions, or you will make small mosules that will be combined to pile up any power is needed?
Cheers,
Garcia
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Where are you right now and how is going the plant?
Caro Andrea Rossi
Your test on the 1MW plant, after what is going on in Paris, where the most powerul persons of the world are reunited to find a clue to reduce the carbon fuels, is the most important thing that is going on in the world. They talk, you do. Are you aware of this?
Ciao,
Renato
Dr Joseph Fine:
For the 1MW plant it’s still 2 hours.
For the E-Cat X it is premature to give these data.
The cause of the start/stop timing is more complex.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
The E-Cats of a few years ago required two hours to start up or shut down.
How long does it take, now, to start up or shut down the 1-MW E-Cat or the E-Cat X?
Since a test is currently in progress, you may not know how long it takes to do a shut-down, because it may not have been done for this system design.
If there is a shut-down interval of more than a few minutes or seconds, is this time needed for the decay of short lived radiation products?
I apologize if I have asked this question before.
Best regards,
Joseph Fine
Nils Fryklund:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear dr Rossi.
Are you still driving the 1 MW-plant on the same fuel-load as you had when you started?
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Barney:
Very important, obviously. We have the duty to make all is possible to oppose the global warming cycle that the Earth seems to be approaching to.
To achieve this, all the Countries of the world and all the responsibles of any production field must collaborate. This would be the real miracle: to put mankind to work on it in harmony and peace. The Pope is making a momentous job in this sense.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Harold:
Could be.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
What do you think of the Paris world conference concerning the global warming?
Regards,
Barney
Bradly:
That is the most difficult part and until it is not convincing the publication is pointless.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
If the E-Cat X will confirm to work properly, could this device power a 1 MW plant analogous to the one you are testing in the factory of the customer, using an assembly of E-Cat X instead of the E-Cats ( or E Tigers) presently used?
Thank you,
Harold
Chantal:
Spectre!
Rossi, Andrea Rossi
Franz Loecken:
All the Countries of the world that respect the international laws related to patents. Our attorneys’ work is on course already.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Toffee:
The Global Warming will be overcome only with the help of God ( in this sense I agree with Bill Gates, in the sense that we need a miracle) and with a synergy between all the existing production systems, not only in the field of energy. This has to be studied with precision in all the existing fields, making a distinction for eny one of them.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Al Birrell:
About 20 persons have been part of the team.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bernie Koppenhofer:
My effect has been replicated already.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hank Mills:
I will talk of our theory only after its publication, if it will be published.
As for the specific inforation you are asking for, patents are in preparation and I cannot make pre-disclosure in positive or in negative.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
If I have well understood, the reconciliation of the Rossi effect with the lack of high energy gamma rays by means of the reverse Mossbauer Effect is brilliant. Now I am very curious to read the mathematic structure of this intuition. I hope the publication of Cook and you will be made soon.
Godspeed,
Bradly
Dear Andrea,
In Cook’s most recent abstract, he states that Tungsten is in the E-Cat fuel.
“I hypothesize that the emission of gamma rays from low-lying excited-states of Mössbauer isotopes (e.g., 57Fe, 61Ni and 183W, that are contained in the E-Cat “fuel”) can induce resonances at relatively high-energies in non-Mössbauer isotopes (e.g., 27Al, 55Mn, 58Ni, 60Ni, and 62Ni) as a consequence of the overlap of transition energies at much higher nuclear levels.”
Is he making a correct statement that accurately reflects the fuel composition, or is his statement about Tungsten pure conjecture?
Dr. Rossi: Would you please show someone how to replicate your 2011 E-Cat, don’t you think a four year head start is enough, he, he he. (:
Kristen:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dana Ziobro:
Saturday Nov 28, at noon: stable both .
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Viktor Shipachev:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
Daniel Badoual, a French Engineer, has made them as a free interpretation of how a domestic E-Cat could be. The idea is good and we had from him the permission to use them with his courtesy.
Is an interesting concept.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
How many persons worked in your team since when you started your work in the USA with IH?
Godspeed,
Al
Gian Luca:
I must be honest: I am doing nothing in that direction, because I am focused exclusively on the battle I am doing, plus the R&D to prepare an alternative in case the results of the tests on course will not have positive results.
About Prof. Sergio Focardi: I have always a strong and excellent memory of him and the substantial work we made together.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
It is impossible to answer now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi
The reading of your US Patent is inspiring: one can imagine the difficulty of your work.
You are gonne be the miracle that Bill gates says we need to resolve the problem of the global warming.
Toffee
Dr A.R.:
To which Countries are you extending your US Paent?
Dr Andrea,
Which movie have you seen recently that you liked?
Chantal
Dr Andrea Rossi:
A small update also today?
Dear Andrea,
A separate question: if the E-Cat X proves to be the best E-Cat process you have, is it possible that the old-style low temperature E-Cat technology (that you are testing now) could be made obsolete, like the Gas Cat?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Dr Andrea Rossi,
I agree with a reader that said your US Patent is the most important reading of the last years in the energy field.
Greetings,
Kristen
Dear Andrea,
it is passed many years when you and prof. Forcardi started experiments whith ECAT.
Which are your “pensieri”? Sensazioni? Ricordi?
Do not you ever stop and think about what will happen next? how they will change the lives of people close to her and those of the entire world’s population? I can not believe, with its humanistic preparation, not being prepared psychologically (and perhaps physically) to “SVOLTA”. You never left anything to chance and it would be nice here, on JONP, you did understand how you are preparing for this event…..closer and closer!
Thanks
Luca
Dear Andrea,
These computer generated images of the domestic E-Cat have been posted on the ecat.com website. Do they represent what you are working with?
http://ecat.com/news/public-concept-drawings-of-domestic-ecat
Kind regards,
Frank
Dear Andrea,
a very simple experiment:
I forgot to specify that the cylinder should be filled with a mixture of argon with 10 percent hydrogen
The piston must be located in the middle of the cylinder
If you answer to me vship 32 @ mail.ru, I can send the drawings and detailed description of the procedure.
Steven N. Karels:
Thank you for your insight, but I prefer not to be engaged at all in all these kinds of considerations and assumptions before we will know if the results of the tests on course will allow us to enter in these matters. Any kind of assumption so far is premature, either positive or negative as it may be.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Thomas Florek:
Thank you for the link to your nice song: a Christmas gift from you to our Readers.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
Yes, if it works.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ecat X Implications
As previously posted, the Ecat X (if successful) will use very little input energy to heat the reactor, so little that a gas-powered reactor is not optimal. What are the implications of such a reactor if it is proved to be able to be produced and is commercially available?
To produce electricity using conventional thermal-to-electric conversion, a Carnot efficiency of 40% is assumed, although slightly higher efficiencies are common in large scale commercial plants. In today’s market, natural gas is about 1/3 the cost of heating by electricity.
Some means of “buffering” is needed for safety considerations between the energy produced by the reactor and the input to the reactor so that “run-away” conditions can never occur.
With the given condition that natural gas is not the best solution for an Ecat X reactor, we can bound the lower limit on the effective COP to be greater than 7.5 (1.0/40% * 3). The pumps and control circuitry would be operated by electricity regardless of the heating source of electricity or gas but previous postings have shown this to be a small percentage of the total input energy needed. So we will ignore these inputs.
The simplest “buffering” would be a battery, charged by either the electricity grid or the output of the Ecat X reactor generated electricity. The battery would be large enough to hold sufficient energy to meet the input energy needs after start-up and during non-self sustaining modes (SSM) of operation.
Assumptions:
1. Let us assume an achievable effective COP of 4 * 7.5 or 30.
2. Let us assume a 3kW Ecat X reactor (each reactor is an independent member of an ensemble of reactors used to generate the energy for the electricity production plant).
3. Let us assume the longest SSM mode is 3 hours. Therefore with a COP of 30, the amount of energy needed to be available from the battery is 3 * 3kWhr / 30 = 0.3kWhr = 300Whr.
4. The conversion efficiency of converting the grid electricity to battery energy and then inverting it back to electricity for the input to the Ecat X should be around 50%. So 600 Whr of input electricity is needed, on the average.
A standard car battery can hold more than 600Whr of energy so this does not present a major development issue.
The percentage of produced electricity lost due to battery usage is 0.6kWhr * 100% / (3kW * 40% * 3 hr) or about 17% of the produced electricity is consumed in maintaining the charge on the battery. In return, there would be no fuel consumed after start-up during the 6 months or longer that the Ecat X reactor was in operation. And zero carbon footprint.
Dear Andrea,
Is the E-Cat X part of your plans to develop the E-Cat powered jet engine?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland