United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

 

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  • Michelangelo De Meo

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    It seems to me that NASA is confirming you are right:
    NASA establishes that X-rays of between 65-200 keV trigger nuclear FUSION reactions – Patent published
    https://steemit.com/steemstem/@mfmp/nasa-establishes-that-x-rays-of-between-65-200-kev-trigger-nuclear-fusion-reactions-patent-published

  • Silent Majority

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    We appreciate your intellectual honesty and your self-irony (Dr Jeckill…ha,ha,ha)

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    To be honest, I must report that this morning Frank Acland has told me that during the interview with him they put a question asking if the numbers I gave (0.08 x 0.6) were mm, but I understood cm, because the audio for me was very bad and I understood cm because for me it was obvious that we were talking of cm…I answered “yes” because I believed we were talking of cm and this has created the ambiguity.
    I understand.
    By the way, yesterday night when I wrote my comment I was very nervous and tired and my comment was full of errors and typos that I corrected this morning when I woke up and read it again: Dr Jeckill has corrected Mr Hyde.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stephen:
    Thank you for your kind attention.
    BUT: it is very strange that an expert of the matter makes a mistake like this, because when I repeated by heart the Boltzmann equation during the demo of Stockholm, it is obvious that I spoke of cm, not mm, from the fact that in the Boltzmann equation I calculated Sigma with 10^-12, instead of 10^-8: it is a cm^2 that is equal to 1/10^4 m^2, not a mm^2 !
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Luther:
    You are right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Luther

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Thank you for your precise explication about the Wien and Boltzmann equations. In the blogs guys who have no education in a matter can sell themselves as experts to persons that do not know the matter. The diffusion of false information is facilitated by this fact.
    Godspeed,
    Luther

  • Stephen

    Hi Andrea,

    Thanks very much for clearly clearing up the question about the Stefan Boltzmann equation.it completely makes sense now.

    To me that it is cm rather than mm fully reconciles the issue. Calorimetry always clearly and definitely showed 20W output. So the original discrepancy when we were thinking in mm was clearly missing something.

    The point about the size was hinted at very early in the presentation and returned to several times during it

    When talking about fractions of a cm and being amazed by how small that is it’s easy in conversation for one person to get confused between mm and fractions of a cm and fractions of a mm.

    I have made the same mistake myself.

    I have a suspicion that early in the conversation possibly even during the presentation that Andrea Rossi mentioned fractions of a cm then this got reinterpreted by someone in mm and then by someone else in fractions of a mm and this then got propagated. Andrea was acknowledging it was really small in his later response with out realizing people had changed cm for mm.

    I have a suspicion that early in the conversation possibly even during the presentation that Andrea Rossi mentioned fractions of a cm then this got reinterpreted by someone in mm and then by someone else in fractions of a mm and this then got propagated. Andrea was acknowledging it was really small in his later response with out realizing people had changed cm for mm.

    Anyway it’s fully explained now and makes total sense

    Best Regards
    Stephen

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you for the information and for the links.
    Same best Wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Great 2018 to you and to all our Readers!
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland ( second answer):
    I checked your link and read that a guy has written that, based on the surface of the reactor, he has “calculated” that by the equation of Boltzmann the energy emitted by a reactor is 0.4 W.
    I think your Readers merit a serious application of the rules of Physics and of Mathematics, to avoid to assume wrong scientific information.
    First of all, it is opportune to remember that the measurements at the IVA of Stockholm have been made by means of calorimetry, not by means of spectrometry and following Wien and Boltzmann equations.
    Nevertheless, it is interesting to compare the results obtained by calorimetry ( based on the delta T and the flow rate of water) vs the theoretical energy produced by the reactor using spectrometry and the equations of Wien and Boltzmann.
    Here are the numbers if we respect the rules of mathematic:
    The first step is to calculate the temperature of the plasma. Since do not exist thermocouples able to resist to temperatures above the melting point of platinum and rhodium, to measure the temperature of a plasma is necessary to measure the wavelength of the radiation from the plasma in microns; the measurements I made give a wavelength between 1 and 1.1 microns.
    Now we can use the equation of Wien
    T = 2900/lambda
    wherein
    T= temperature in K
    2900 = Wien constant
    lambda = wavelength in microns
    By substitution we have
    T= 2900/1.1 ( to be conservative we take the longest lambda )
    Therefore T= 2636 K
    Now that we have found the T, we can proceed to calculate the power using the equation of Boltzmann, whose definition is:
    W = Sigma x Epsilon x T^4 x A(in m^2)
    Wherein:
    Sigma = 5.67 x 10^-8 BUT ATTENTION: we will use 10^-12, because the Area will be calculated in cm^2, not in m^2 and 1 cm^2=10^-4 m^2
    Epsilon= emissivity: being plasma a black body the emissivity is = 1
    T^4= fourth power of the temperature of the surface in K = 4.8 x 10^13
    A= area of the surface of the plasma= 2rPiL= cm 0.08 x 3.14 x cm 0.6 = cm^2 0.15
    Now, we have all the data necessary to resolve the equation of Boltzmann per W:
    W = 5.67 x 10^-12 x 1 x 4.8 x 10^13 x 0.15
    Make the series of multiplications, apply the rules of the exponentials and find the result:
    W = 40.82
    This result is the theoretical thermal power of our plasma. As we have seen from the demo of Stockolm, the calorimetry has given a result that is about the 30% of the total power, because I was afraid of errors and kept the E-Cat QX at low profile.
    Besides, the spectrometry is an immediate measurement that gives the theoretical power, while the calorimetry is made on the actual production of heat through a heat exchanger whose efficiency obviously is not 100%. It is interesting, though, to note that the order of magnitude is reconciled.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thanks to you and the team of Energy 2.0 Society for hosting me and thank you for the link.
    Answer: if I die the IP is in solid hands.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Thanks for the time you took to speak with the Energy 2.0 Society today. There are some more questions that got posted on this page on E-Cat World here: http://e-catworld.com/2017/12/09/energy-2-0-society-to-hold-webcast-with-andrea-rossi-as-guest-december-9-2017/

    This question was sent to me, but I did not see this morning, but I thought I would post it here for your consideration:

    “If Rossi is hit by a bus is there currently some other group of people or a person that can bring the information to light or will it vanish with Rossi?”

    Thanks again!

    Frank Acland

  • Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    There are significant worldwide efforts toward replacing electric power generation based on steam turbines (Rankine Thermodynamic Cycle) with Natural Gas-fired Turbo-generators or Super-Critical Carbon Dioxide (S-CO2) based Turbo-generators (Brayton Thermodynamic Cycle).

    Natural Gas Turbines (essentially, Jet Engines that produce electricity) have high conversion efficiency (50-60%) and are replacing power plants currently using steam turbines heated by fossil fuels.

    http://www.powermag.com/market-challenged-ge-continues-to-improve-gas-turbine-efficiency/

    Nuclear reactors and Solar Thermal Plants (e.g SunShot Initiative) do not use fossil fuels but still need a working fluid.

    https://energy.gov/eere/solar/sunshot-initiative

    Heat Sources such as the E-CAT QX also need a working fluid to produce electricity.

    That working fluid, someday soon, may be compressed (Supercritical) Carbon Dioxide.

    Here are some links describing some recent work in Korea and the US in the S-CO2 area.

    http://waet.org/downloads/15/papers/17uk120103%5B1%5D.pdf

    http://online.acts2017.org/wp/pdf/P00317.pdf

    http://www.sco2symposium.com/www2/sco2/papers2016/Testing/049paper.pdf

    http://proceedings.asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/proceeding.aspx?articleid=2650551

    http://www.orc2017.com/uploads/File/Presentations/234.pdf (Includes fossil fuel heat sources)

    In the next several years, perhaps you and your team could work together with one of the SCO2 turbine developers to prototype a system in the 20 kWe -40 kWe range that would be operationally compatible with the QX.

    Best wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year,

    Joseph Fine

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jean Bourguignon:
    Apparently you are right, your logic is true. But the technology is more complex than that.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jean Bourguignon

    Dear Andrea,
    A naif question: when the temperature reaches 2,600 K all the metals of the charge melt, so Ni is no more in powder; but powder is necessary for the Ecat to operate. Am I right?
    Thank you if you can answer,
    Jean

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Toussaint Francois:
    We hope to be able within 2018 of start the massive industrialization.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pietro Bisignano:
    Thank you for your insight and suggestions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you for the link: I just finished that interview organized by Ecatworld.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Michelangelo De Meo

    Energy 2.0 Webcast with Andrea Rossi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YSwrHNJEvo

  • Pietro Bisignano

    Dear Mr. Rossi, have you ever think to develop a new crypto-money (like bitcoin or something similar) that could be grows following the development of your ecat…? The energy production given from any device could be logged using its blockchain and making its performances auto-self-certified (but even public)… The system could be useful to support the development of the ecat in a new, rapid and most unconditionated way. Your project could also resolve, totally or partially, the problem of the extremely high costs of the ‘mining activity’ that is typical of the crypto-money creation. Anyway, most of people, or better ‘all the people’, that follows your project can’t wait to put their hands on your device. What do you think about? Wish you all the best so your dream will come true (as soon as possible).

  • Toussaint françois

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    One question please, how long do you estimate the time to build and delever the first industrial E-CAT QX plant?

    Warm Regards,

    Toussaint François

  • Anonymous

    Dr Andrea Rossi
    Is it correct to say that your new partners have invested with the specific goal to make the industrialization?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Colin Watters:
    You do not need a theory to answer this: the E-Cat is a fluid heater, therefore it is the E-Cat that makes the heat, not the heat that makes the E-Cat.
    The E-Cat starts at any temperature, then it heats up everything it is in contact with.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Michel:
    I respect your opinion. Also in this case, facts will speak. The domestic Ecat certification process is on course. I think until the industrial applications will have built up positive statistics we will not complete this process. All the experience of operations so far has been done upon prototypes attended to by our specialists every day: this opens the door of industrial applications attended by certified operators, but it is not sufficient for domestic applications, for obvious reasons.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eve:
    Thank you for your attention to the work of our team.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Eve

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    Congratulations for the successful demonstration at the Royal Academy of Engineering of Stockolm. I watched several times the video on http://www.ecat.com: I appreciated also the simplicity of the test and your humble way to explain what was going on. The result is shocking.
    Godspeed,
    Eve

  • Michel

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    Is the time spent waiting for the certification of the old domestic version (10KW) is included in the domestic QX certification process, or do you have to completely start the certification process from the beginning ? Do you have a plan in order to accelerate the process for the domestic reactor?
    The fact is that the certification of the old domestic E-cat (10KW) has never been successful after 4 years, including the 1 year test of the 1MW industrial version.
    On the certification of the domestic version, perhaps i am wrong, but i do not believe you, i am sorry. You probably do not say everything to us for a reason I do not know.
    If we have to wait for new long-term tests for the industrial version of the QX, I’m afraid that the certification of the domestic version of the QX, the one we are interested in, does not happen for years, if it ever happens.

    Best regards,

    Michel

  • Colin Watters

    Dear Mr Rossi,

    Can you tell me if Carl-Oscar Gullstrom’s theory explains why your reactor has to be at a certain temperature? Does it explain why it doesn’t work at room temperature or colder? Thank you.

  • Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    The recharge cost should be 1/10 of the cost of the reactor.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N.Karels:
    Maybe.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eric Ashworth:
    Thank you for your insight, but gravity is too weak a force to have any relevance in LENR.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea, Thank you for your in depth reply regarding the possible mechanisms behind the LENR process and you links. I find your thoughts most interesting and as many people are aware you are dealing on a subject at the sub atomic level. I have limited knowledge with regards atomic physics but have you considered gravity a a constituent of the LENR process. We all know the effect of gravity but very little about its cause. I believe there are two types of gravity with regards its manufacture, there is the static standing form as found in a lattice created by the surrounding units of gravity and a mobile fleeting form produced by the breaking of molecular bonds/waves which creates a fleeting type of gravity due to the break in the waves that form the bond and which in turn, upon being broken produces a gap or a zone of gravity which then draws within that which is without which are the long and short wave makeup of the original molecular bond. These waves being drawn together into the gravity zone are first transformed into virtual particles of substance This transformation of wave into particle could be the result of the wave making itself neutral with regard the two exterior gravity masses that have broken apart, a particle can spin and by doing so remain neutral. The short wave transforms into a positive virtual particle, the long wave transforms into a long wave negative particle which upon there eventual contact neutralize that generates a repelling force that enables both virtual particles to escape from the gravity zone. These being soft virtual particles of artificial origin that create chaos in the surrounding area measurable by a degree heat. I suspect that once the virtual particles lose there gravity by imploding due to there ability to raise both temperature and pressure they transform back to there original wave format. If so, it could be said gravity is responsible for electrical phenomena, atomic phenomena, solar and LENR phenomena. It was your mention of virtual particles that got my attention. I believe all you need are two dissimilar charges to create a zone of gravity and thereby produce energy by a neutralizing of that which is brought together by the action of the produced gravity. My own thoughts are that wherever energy exists gravity is the key ingredient. Energy as is well known can be latent or kinetic. Energy requires a degree of disturbance to transform itself from latent to kinetic, thereby if gravity is produced kinetic energy must be manufactured. Just some of my own thoughts. Hope you get the maths to solidify the LENR theory.
    All the best Eric Ashworth

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I believe marine propulsion will be the most likely Quark technology application for commercial use in transportation. Marine propulsion requires long duration operation with incentives to minimize fuel costs while taking advantage of higher operating speeds. Output powers of 100MW to 1,000MW may be needed for marine propulsion of large cargo ships. Imagine a cargo carrier that could maintain 30 knots without significantly increasing fuel operating costs. The same ship could transport 3 to 4 times the cargo in a single year, only needing to be refueled once per year. Thoughts?

  • WaltC

    Dear Andrea,
    Just to be clear on nomenclature–
    – Do you expect that it is the “reactor” that will be the replaceable unit when it comes time to refresh the charge (say, at the end of 1 year) or will it be a sub-component of the reactor (for instance, an assembly or cluster) that is replaced and recharged?

    – Or put another way, if your current goal for the reactor is $10/KWt, do you have a lesser goal for the recharge cost?

    thanks, WaltC

  • Andrea Rossi

    Alexander:
    For the reactors 10 $/kWt. For the plants, depends on the specific characteristics.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Alexander

    Dear dr Andrea Rossi:
    Which is your target price per kW of power, when you will reach a massive production in the future factory of the Ecats?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Mike:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you for the link,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Mike

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    If we have understood correctly the industrial Ecats massively produced will possibly enter the market by 2018, while for the domestic more time will be necessary due to the authorizations, is this true?
    Mike

  • Andrea Rossi

    Luke:
    Of course we have paid the taxes for the national phases in all the Countries listed in the allowance of the European Patent Office, with no exceptions. A hole would be very dangerous, because in most of Europe merchandise have free circulation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Sylvie:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Sylvie

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Are you still hoping to present the product within 2018?
    God bless you,
    Sylvie

  • Luke

    Dear Andrea:
    Did you make the national phase of your European patent in all the 38 Countries of Europe, or you have selected only some of them? I know that the taxes combined of all the Countries are very high.
    Thank you if you can answer,
    Luke

  • Michelangelo De Meo

    Letter to the Editor: Major advance in cold fusion touted as energy solution

    It is hard to overestimate the effect LENR will have on our civilization. First use will be supplying industrial heat. Probably 10 years to start getting vehicles powered by LENR. That will be everything: cars, trucks, trains and ships. Imagine being able to drive a car continuously for a year without refueling or 2.4 hours a day for 10 years. Robots will be fully mobile. Airplanes will take longer but Dr. Rossi is already looking at the possibility of LENR turbines. Don’t throw away your household furnace and water heater yet: it will take years to get UL approval.

    http://www.delcotimes.com/opinion/20171206/letter-to-the-editor-major-advance-in-cold-fusion-touted-as-energy-solution

  • Andrea Rossi

    Michelangelo De Meo:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Michelangelo De Meo

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    What do you think of this invention? Can it be useful for the Ecat?
    The basic idea of ​​the EM Drive, on the other hand, is to convert electrical energy into a thrust, without propellant expulsion.
    the magnetic propulsion engine that could take humans to Mars in 70 days.

    http://www.repubblica.it/scienze/2016/11/13/news/fermi_tutti_il_motore_impossibile_funziona-151941253/?refresh_ce

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gian:
    Thank you for the link and for your sustain,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • E questa la conoscevi?
    ENGLISH:
    Did you read this?

    http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20171206/NEWS/171209754

    L’Italia ti segue sempre con tutto il suo Cuore.

    Con Stima e simpatia.

    Che Dio ti Aiuti

    Gian

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Thank you for the information, that I pass on to our friends of http://www.rossilivecat.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Rodney Nicholson

    Dear Andrea:

    In case you have not noticed, it seems many messages posted at

    http://www.rossilivecat.com/

    seem to be missing when I access the site today.

    One on 5 December, than the next showing, only 17th November.

    Just to let you know.

    Rodney.

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