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  • Glen Pastorin

    When you will deliver your plants to sell the heat, who will have to make the authorizations?

  • CC

    Dear Andrea:
    Do you know that the Youtube videos of your demonstration of the Ecat QX in Stockholm on Nov 24 are going viral?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Drew G.:
    Thank you for the link and the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Drew G.

    Dr. Rossi:

    Continued success with the ECAT developments. You may find this presentation on XUV diamond photodetectors of value depending on the spectrum of your reactors:
    https://slideplayer.com/slide/4888226/

    Drew G.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rupert:
    Magicians or magic things have nothing to do with Nuclear Physics. Who told you so is an imbecile.
    To understand well the thematic of the nuclear models and the so called “magic numbers” ( that have nothing of magic, this is a conventional terminology for the numbers of nucleons that manifest a more probable tendency to reach a more stable configuration, so that if the nucleus has few nucleons more than the “magic number” it should be more probable that the nucleus tends to break up in a decay process, to reach the magic number ) I think the best book is “Atomic Nucleus” authored by Prof. Norman D. Cook, published by Springer in 2008 and sold also by Amazon and “Models of the Atomic Nucleus”, Springer 2010- that is the second edition with important updates- I know by heart these books.
    The concept of a model that resembles an onion, wherein every layer completes the number of nucleons that have max stability, is the so called “Shell Model”, along which nucleons behave in analogy to the electrons around the nucleus, where there are saturation strata ( the different quantic stata of the electrons around the nucleus ). To make it shorter, the octet reached with the last orbital of the noble gases is analogous in a certain way to what in the nucleus is considered a magic number: obviously, as a gas is not noble because is an Earl or a Prince, also a stratum of the nucleus is not magic because emits rabbits: noble and magic are just conventional definitions that have nothing to do with the normal semantic.
    This Shell Model has been thought about because explains some behaviors of the nucleons inside the nucleus, while the former model, the so called “Liquid Drop Model”, that compares the decay of a nucleus to a piece of drop that breaks out when the drop gets enough vibration, can explain the fission ( like a drop that splits in two or more drops) but not the intimate behavior of nucleons inside the nucleus.
    Which one is right? None. So the Orthodox Standard Model Huggers Fraternity have invented the “Collective Model”, thinking that unifying the Drop Model with the Shell Model you fix it all. Like to say that unifying a blind with a deaf you fix the whole. But it is not so. Why? Read the books of Norman Cook and forget the magicians.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Rupert

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
    I read that also in nuclear physics magic events are taken seriously: in the most accepted model of the atomic nucleus there are “magic numbers” that allow the nucleus exist: is that correct?
    Magic regards,
    Rupert

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    We are focused on civil applications.
    I share your last amswer.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Conversion or adaptation of eCat technology into weapons applications is inevitable. Look at the example of Nobel. His invention was used in warfare. He became rich and later funded the ongoing Nobel prizes. Perhaps an “Andrea Rossi” similar program of international prizes? Too early to “count your chickens before they hatch”.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi
    I hope that your work will serve humanity by providing cheap energy accessible to people, including the poorest. The development of technologies for military purposes have always led to humanitarian tragedies and led to the misery of the peoples.
    Let us hope that your work serves only to reconcile peoples and not to divide them.
    That’s why I support you.
    Best regards
    Raffaele

  • Andrea Rossi

    Xavier Pitz:
    This is the core of the problem. It is premature to be able to answer. I can say that the power of fire of the Partner we are dealing with to resolve the problem is very high in the whole world.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Iggy Dalrymple

    Dear Joseph Fine,
    The proposed SK powered torpedo might need an external boost to get it up to ram-jet velocity.

    Surely, you don’t believe that unilateral disarmament will promote world peace?
    After all, rumor has it that Russia already has a far superior torpedo.
    Regards,
    Iggy

  • Xavier Pitz

    Dear Andrea,

    Do you envision the SK being able to be retrofitted into the combustion chamber of already existing gas turbines, or wouldn’t it be better to design new kind of SK-optimized gas turbines ?
    I’m also not an engineer, and this maybe total nonsense, but as there is no real combustion taking place, the combustion chamber maybe skipped altogether ?
    The challenge will then be to transfer the heat from the SK somewhere else in the airflow. Maybe through the stators blades ? Would this make sense ?

    Best Regards,

    Xavier

  • Joseph Fine

    Iggy Dalrymple,

    Your proposal to use the E-Cat SK to propel weapons may or may not be feasible. But you should consider the possibility that you may someday be on the ship being pursued for days or weeks by such a device.

    Weaponization may be good to obtain funds from various governments. From a business standpoint, it is much better to have more customers for your products because it satisfies their needs than to move weapons around that threaten to destroy many or all of the world’s customers. For what?

    It is a short term gain followed by a descent to mutual destruction. If we avoid World War 3, we won’t have to build up a stockpile of Sticks and Stones for whoever is left to continue the fight.

    Anyway, it was a good question, because it was a question that provokes thought. It is better to provoke thinking than to provoke people.

    Peaceful regards,

    Joseph Fine

  • Andrea Rossi

    Iggy Dalrymple:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Iggy Dalrymple

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    It occured to me that you might could design an SK powered torpedo that would
    simply convert incoming seawater into steam jet propulsion (like a ramjet)?

    I’ve read where the Russians have developed a supersonic torpedo where the
    resistance/drag is reduced by emitting tiny air bubble from the torpedo nose.
    If this is true, maybe you could replace the air bubbles with SK produced steam bubbles.
    Best regards,
    Iggy

  • James

    Dear JPR:
    your comment, that I share 100%, was past due.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Buck:
    You are right, the development of a gas turbine fueled by the Ecat SK needs the collaboration with world class Partners.
    The choice and formulating of the materials is one of the problems we have to deal with. To be a non engineer, your comment is very intelligent.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N.Karels:
    I explained in my comment of yesterday what I think about the theoretical bases of our effect.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gunnar Peter:
    This has been achieved in the industrialization process. All the circuitry, that in Stockholm was custom made for a prototype with existing parts, with some exception, now has been revolutionized and all has ben custom made for the purposes of my effect. It has been an enormous work, but we resolved the overheating issue, that was the main obstacle, and other problems. This increased of a factor of 50 the power of the basic module.
    Thank you for the attention to the work of our Team.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Gunnar-Peter

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I watched on Youtube the convincing Ecat QX demonstration made in Stockholm on November 24 2017.
    One question: you recently wrote that now the same apparatus has a power of 1 kW instead of 20 W, which is impressive: how did you obtain such an improvement ?
    Thank you if you can answer,
    Gunnar-Peter

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    in eCat technology, do you believe most of the released thermal energy comes from:

    1. fusion
    2. isotope transmutation?

  • Buck

    Dear Andrea:
    as always, the excitement in your heart comes through your blog.

    As a non-engineer, I can only imagine the tasks your capable gas-turbine engineers face for integrating the SK into a well functioning, efficient and effective gas-turbine.

    Your sharing on the forms of energy generated by the SK, the discussion of XUV light here and elsewhere, points to how your engineers are looking for a material that strongly absorbs the SK’s radiated energy, enabling a conversion to heat. Further, that this material may be included in or formed into a heat-exchange superstructure surrounding the SK reactor module. In addition, that this superstructure becomes part of the redesigned and relocated combustion chamber of the gas-turbine, where all the air driven by the upstream compressor flows through the durable heat-exchanger like a car’s radiator.

    Do those materials exist that will absorb/convert a high percentage (> 70-90%) of the radiated energy? A material that can be included in or formed into a durable superstructure? Do you and your engineers see this as a “simple” engineering task dealing with comprehensible variables?

    My best wishes for you and your team

    Buck

  • Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    Sorry, but the language of our contracts is confidential. In general, it is obvious that we will sell at a price that can motivate our Clients to sign.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: Just wondering if you plan similar contract language for when you start selling heat via your E-Cat QX?

    Cyclone Power Technologies announced that it has entered into its first microgrid installation contract to provide systems that provide over 3 Megawatts of electricity, hot water and 72 hour storage backup through their patent pending Thermal Storage Units. This is the contract language:

    “The power purchase agreement provides for ten years of power at a discount to the current rates paid to the local power company that has historically provided electricity, with benchmarks and adjustments annually based on industry pricing standards”

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eric Ashworth:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    Our Clients will have to pay only the heat we supply them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    For now we consider that matter confidential.
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea,
    Regarding theory, to me the most interesting question is where does the energy come from. It should come from nuclear binding energy, because it is too large to be of chemical origin. Experimentally, the fundamental question is just: which isotopes transform to which, and is the energy liberated by those transformations the same as the observed liberated energy (within measurement error, and one has to subtract energy carried away by neutrinos, if any). Then, when this is experimentally established, one can ask the “how” questions: how do the processes work. In other words, one has to first know what is happening, before explaining how it happens.

    Question: Do you regard E-cat’s isotope shift data (assuming you have managed to measure it well enough or planning to do so) as publishable scientific data, or as proprietary business data?
    regards, /pekka

  • Anonymous

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    The clients that will buy from Leonardo Corp the heat will have to pay something more that the mere heat, or they will have to pay only the heat they consume?

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea, The technology I mention of and the mechanism previously described is with regards to structure, how it is formed, within what it is formed and the interaction between structures i.e. their electromagnetic fields. It is based upon planets and their progressive states within an overriding structure containing four flux tubes The mechanism, because it creates a unified structure can be used as an analogy to help explain structural physics i.e. how structures are formed etc. Geometry was the tool used to design the mechanism, being an artificial structure it required a specific central space to accommodate specific components unlike a none artificial structure i.e. one formed in nature and therefore required eight rotors (two sets of four) i.e. the mobile dimensions and eight chambers being the static dimensions to accommodate the structuring process, providing for the static and mobile mechanics of energy interaction to be studied with regards structured air. Thereby the mechanism contains eight flux tubes not four but does it matter, no because four is the minimum and maximum number for a ‘Set’. How many ‘Sets’ in a flux tube? four. How many divisions in a ‘Set’? four. Why? because each ‘Set’ is a macro structure within which four minor structures are in a developmental systemic system i.e. becoming more perfect with regards a good structure with good quality. Whats quality?. Quality with regards structured energy is with regards the positive and the negative aspects of the structure as it develops over a period of time and space. The structure within a flux tube starts out as a nebulous negative cloud of negative substance at the Alpha gate on the event horizon and as it progresses through the ‘Set’ it gains in quality by becoming more positive. Each ‘Set’ is a more positive ‘Set’ thereby the structure eventually produces two distinct aspects, one is positive being the internal solid structure of size and one is negative that surrounds the structure being an external active electromagnetic field. These two potentials are in a relationship with regards their structure, as the positive gains in positivity by being compressed smaller, the negative gains in negativity by becoming more volume due to the gaining of size of the positive i.e. reduce/gain. Thereby the structure gains in its potential energy within its flux tube, whereupon when it finally does self destruct and become plasma at the Omega gate it represents a power of that flux tube. I will now make an analogy, in Wikipedia it is stated a ‘Set’ can be comprised of any type of object, so could be a family of planets or a family of people. Lets say people because this subject is about re-search (see re definition at dictionary .com). These objects can only move forward into a ‘Set’ and within a ‘Set’ when the object in front moves forward but we must remember that in moving forward the object becomes more perfect i.e. of a higher potential, it’s a law of energy with regards entering more positive zones. So when an object moves out of a ‘Set’ i.e. in the last position, it enters the next higher ‘Set’ in the first position. Consequently an object in the last position of a lower ‘Set’ moves into the first position of a higher ‘Set’ and the first object of that ’Set’ moves into its higher position within the same ‘Set’. Thereby the young newcomer is beneath the elder who previously occupied his now present position and above the elder is an object in a farther position to its previous location and above this position being the last in the ‘Set’ is the grand position which occupies the most perfect position of the ‘Set’ being the most perfect structure within that ‘Set’. To an extent this is none technical but I put it forward as an introductory consideration to an extremely complex situation with regards structure, evolution and energy that, I believe, is encompassed in the subject of physics. My last lengthy post I believe contained no foundational substance to the subject i.e. just the maths to a flux tube and Pi being 4. Because the ‘Linearizing Propulsion Mechanism’ is patented, it can be accessed and built but if anyone does build the mechanism I would suggest that before using it to structure air they contact me, not because I am not going to allow them to use it but because without a specially designed outer fuselage the mechanism will be attracted to the nearest object and with it, its destructive capabilities. The fuselage has to contain chambers to structure a static barrier layer around the outflow and thereby the entire mechanism from the external environment. For what purpose would such a mechanism in the form of an aircraft possess over conventional designs. Because you can have four, eight, twelve or sixteen integral propellers and the same number of flux tubes and by such you can achieve more lift than any aircraft in present production. You could transport a million gallons of water. You could have an aerial fire fighter capable of putting out a forest fire in maybe one pass. You could transport an entire hospital into a disaster area. The list is endless but the technology is available and the mathematics and geometry behind it is able to be explained, although it is difficult . Such a vehicle would be used within the Earths atmosphere but to get to the moon or further would require the mach engine to be installed but what would power the entire craft?. This I was asked but at the time I was unaware of LENRs. but the technology I have attempted to present, although before its time, will one day be required. I put this information forward to try and help explain from where the concept of the technology came from. It came mainly from geometry and developed into the maths. Physicists that I spoke to at the time were extremely interested but required permission from a higher source to be able to liaise with myself. I will attempt to explain how I see Hydrogens VPs and the L.P. mechanism with regards structure and its purpose with regards specific aspects.
    Regards, Eric Ashworth.
    P.S. in my last lengthy post regarding the Eddington formulae 1.5 (16+.1) x 16 = 24 (4×6) 4 cubes i.e. 4 ‘Sets’ x15 (16-1) = 136 I made a typo error. the formulae should read 16 + 0.5 x16 = 24 (4×6) 4 cubes i.e. 4 ‘Sets’ x15 (16-1) = 136. I am guessing but Eddington needed 1.5 to get his 136 – divide by 90 degrees (one flux tube) to get 1.5
    He did say the figure could be found by pure deduction. 1.511111 x 4 which are the four destroyed structures in the central position equal to one ‘Set’ = 6.04444 one cubic neutral of circulating plasma with regards the overriding structure containing 16 flux tubes -1 i.e. 15. Thereby 1.5 of plasma i.e. quarter of a ‘Set’, being a potential of a created fine structure i.e. EVOs circulating each flux tube at any one time. This I understand as on the macro scale The micro is similar but not the same format.

  • CC

    @JPR
    Of course you are right, there is not a single claim that is not copy of prior art, or based upon well known science that is commonly used many years since. Maybe they have to show their investors that they do not need Rossi. Obviously I suppose they informed well their investors about the difference between a granted patent, like the one of Rossi, and a series of pending patents all copied from prior art. It is also possible that they are again looking for collecting more public , as usually Cherokee does: please see the investigation of Sifferkoll about Cherokee ( just google Sifferkoll investigation on Cherokee) : a piece that has the dignity to win a Pulitzer. The activity of Cherokee has been dissected in all its components, pouring a bright light about their activities.
    Anyway, the evolution of these facts merits to be followed, analyzed and put under the magnifying lens first and in the mass media second. We must not permit another fraud from these guys in the field of the LENR.
    But there is also a LOL inducing fact in those “pending patents”: one of the co-inventors is Mr Murray, the guy that during the depositions of the case Leonardo VS Cherokee said that LENR cannot work because violate the first principle of thermodynamic: now he signs a patent application related to LENR: behold the force of convincing of our Andrea Rossi: he turned a Murray from a LENR assassin into a LENR co-inventor.
    Don’t care these clowns, Andrea, continue your hard work and give us the solace to see your industrialized Ecat as soon as possible. Now I understand also why you do not sell plants, but only heat, controlling the plants from your offices: IH, Brilouin and company have only one chance to make something able to work: copy your plants.
    Your choice to sell the heat, not the plant is genial.
    All the best,
    CC

  • JPR

    @Donald
    Everybody can see that the patent applications made by IH are not allowable because they are just a copy of prior art.
    Jean Paul Renoir

  • Andrea Rossi

    Donald:
    I never comment the activity of my competitors.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    CC:
    33%
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    Standard Model:
    elementary particles are tiny vibrating waves, quantistically defined, in a particular field.
    When the temperature reaches the mass of an elementary particle, waves are formed corresponding to those elementary particles.
    When the field of these elementary particles resonates with another field during their interaction, new waves can be raised in the second field corresponding to its temperature and if a third field is resonating with these two fields, further particles are raised corresponding with its temperature.
    This is what I an consider to be tha base of my effect and I also am convinced that the “source field” is made by electrons, the resonating ones are of virtual e.p. and their antiparticles. Due to the fact that the source field has a T=1-2 eV, this explains why we do not have strong radiations during the thermalization process.
    Carl-Oscar and I are preparing a series of heavy experimentation to prove this.
    Maybe I am wrong. I think to be right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Prof

    Dr Rossi:
    Can you explain in few word which are the bases of your theoretical thinking about your effect?

  • Donald

    Andrea,
    did you see the 3 patent applications made by IH? Do you have comments about their activity?
    Donald

  • CC

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Are the chances that you will show the SX at the presentation of the industrialized Ecats? Can you give a percentage of possibility?

  • Andrea Rossi

    E.Hergen:
    The max T we reach is around 20 000 °C.
    The production of electricity by means of heat is an old and consolidated technology. The difficult is to make the first source of energy, the eventual conversion of it in other forms is not difficult, albeit some efficiency has to be lost.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Renato:
    This for me is archeology. I have been born from those events into the new life I am living now. Better so.
    I have nothing to add to what has been written on
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    No further comment.
    Just one thing that is important our Readers in all the world know: the Guardia di Finanza is a glorious Corpo d’Armata and Gen Emilio Spaziante has been investigated and arrested by the same Guardia di Finanza of which he was a very top level general. This gives evidence of the integrity and neutrality of this great and glorious military Corp.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • E. Hergen

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    in a former reply you said you have reached a power density with the ecat SK you have never reached before.

    What was the highest temperature you reached with the ecat SK ever, and what is the maximum temperature you can operate the ecat SK without damaging the module?

    I hope you give us notice when you for the first time will produce electricity. This will be a monumental event.

    Thank you for your answers.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Not in the short term.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Shakia:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    John Pace:
    Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Renato

    Dear Andrea,

    this news has been published yesterday late afternoon from many italian sources,
    this is just one example:

    http://it.euronews.com/2018/07/16/mose-ex-generale-spaziante-1-mln-a-gdf

    For non-italian Readers, former General Spaziante has been
    condemned to return 1 million Euros to the Italian Financial Guard,
    as indemnity to the image damages he gave to the Guard Corp, in the Venice
    MOSE corruption scandal process. He is the high level officer that closed the activity of Andrea Rossi, while never during his career stopped the activity of the mafia companies that during the generalship of Gen Emilio Spaziante succeeded to get the monopoly of the waste treatment in Italy, wherein the treatment has been bury everything in abusive landfills with terrible effecs on the environment.

    Any comment ?

  • John Pace

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Congratulations for the impressive demonstration you made in Stockholm of the Ecat QX. Very precise and convincing measurements, impressive result.
    Cheers
    John Pace

  • Shakia

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I watched the Ecat QX Demonstration made in Stockholm on Nov 24 2018.
    I noticed that the diagram of the oscilloscope shown an unipolar current with strong voltage armonic variations: are these made by the control system?

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, in the recent meeting between Trump and Putin it was said that Germany is dependent on Russia for the supply of gas and that this makes Europe subject to Russia both economically and politically.

    Trump has said he could provide Germany (and Europe) with the energy needed to be indepedent from Russia.

    This is another case in which we can see how energy can condition the economic and political balance of the world.

    Under this point of view, I think that it is absolutely certain that the E-Cat could be very important to alleviate those types of tensions in the world.

    Is it correct?

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Daniel De Caluwé:
    Thank you for your insight. That is a fertile field, I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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