Imagine how smooth and quiet the Velocity would be with an eCat-powered electric motor. Velocity is an excellent choice with itsrear propeller. It would be a dream to fly.
@Steven N. Karels:
We are on the same wavelength!
I had kitplanes in my mind in my comment, specifically the Velocity kitplane. But I was thinking of an electric motor supplied with electricity from the Ecat for all phases of flight; the power train would be sized to provide sufficient power for the take off with max load.
Warm Regards,
Chuck Davis
It struck me that an industry that could readily make use of the Ecat’s heat generation would be the alcohol industry, they use a lot of heat in most processes.
I appreciate your post but I believe the logic is reversed. The power utilization for a conventional aircraft is highest during the initial climb to cruising altitude. The power needed at altitude is minimal – not changing altitude plus thinner air so less air resistance. So a constant power source, such as an eCat-based motor would be best served for the cruise mode. The supplemental onboard conventional fuel mode would only be required for take-off and, if the pilot had a “missed approach”, the power needed to go around and attempt another landing(s).
This would mean the only conventional fuel onboard would be required for take-off and, as needed, a number of “go arounds”.
The alternative would be a sufficiently large onboard eCat-based generation to eliminate the conventional fuel items (motor, fuel tanks, and fuel). A trade-off problem for future engineers.
Dear Andrea Rossi
Concerning what Chuck Davis wrote. Hybrid aeroplanes are at planning stage. Similar to hybrid cars, they would use electric motors for takeoff and landing, and normal fuel for the cruise. The benefit is more silent takeoff, and also better fuel economy because the normal engines can be dimensioned for the cruise, no need to dimension them for the takeoff. The E-cat would plug in rather nicely in this picture. No need to have a thrust-producing E-cat jet engine, enough to be able to make electricity with E-cats onboard the aircraft. The number of generators can be much more than one, so that if one fails, plane still works. Furthermore, should all the E-cats suddenly fail (I don’t know how), plane can still land because has electric power enough for short flight and landing stored in batteries.
That said, I strongly think that it is the right thing for you to concentrate on heat and electricity production on ground, at this moment. The customer does what he wants with the heat, and at some future day the customer might be also an aviation company.
I generally agree that an eCat-based engine certified for aeronautical use is a decade or two away. However, there are specialty applications that might be able to use it:
a. unmanned drones, especially large, long-duration applications – think 6 months of continuous flight.
b. Experimental aircraft – these unique, one-of-a-kind applications have used non-certified automobile engines for aircraft powerplants.
c. Specialty applications – long duration flights – over the oceans or sparsely inhabited areas like deserts or jungles, where an aircraft falling out of the sky does little property damage or is a mall threat to human life.
Chuck Davis,
It is possible to start the Ecat QX and SK by means of a battery, but I am afraid that this has nothing to do with the time necessary for aeronautical applications. I do not think I will see any application of the genre during my lifetime. Generation of heat and of electricity, this is the focus.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I’m now firmly convinced that the primary fundamental mechanism of LENR is the production of electrically charged EVOs and the emission of magnetically charged (electrically neutral) strange radiation particles — which are perhaps fragments of Ultra Dense Hydrogen — during their decomposition. The production of EVOs/SR can take place in the lattice of a metal hydride when fracto-emission takes place, on the surface of an LENR fuel when surface plasmon polaritons produce intense electric fields upon encountering cracks or protrusions, or in a hydrogen plasma (enhanced dramatically when additions of catalytic elements like argon, helium, atomized lithium, atomized strontium, or other elements are added). By adding common sense enhancements to the above systems, the production of EVOs and SR can be enhanced dramatically. Moreover, the use of “cats” or secondary layers of fuel around the innermost reactor or “magnetic mirror” configurations to magnetically trap the EVOs/SR can make sure that none of these active agents escape into the environment.
Dear Andrea,
if it is possible to start the Ecat with a battery, then I believe that the time to make aeronautical applications will be shorter.
Warm Regards,
Chuck Davis
Dr Rossi:
In the video ‘YouTube Ecat QX demo of November 24 in Stockholm’ we can see a very low consume of electric energy.
Now that the Ecat QX has a power over 1kW is the COP the same?
Nils Fryklund:
I think that aeronautic applications are very far from now, but the application to turbines to make electricity or heat is close.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
At the end of January we will present our service based on the sale of heat made by the industrialized Ecat.
This is all I can say right now.
Thank you for your attention to our work,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea!
I ment that because you are testing a gasturbine I wonder if E-catSK is placed in a modyfied combuster, instead of ordinary fuel nozzle, and if a motor like that can fit in comercial aircrafts to avoid lots of tons of fuel.
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Dear Andrea!
You have mentioned that you are testing gasturbines.
The only thing I know about gasturbines is that the air is compressed to about 20 bar. Thereafter is the air heated by for example E-catSK and is expanded lineary with the temperature increase before it meets the outlet turbine.
This must be ideal for comercial airplanes, there you will lose lots of tons of fuel, more cheap and eco-friendly.
Am I right or did I misunderstand, or would E-catSK take to big space with the high effect needed? Or is the control current for E-catSK to high?
I wish you good luck with your production and tests.
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
I think that a synthesis of the theoretic hints of the Stockholm presentation and the ideas in the paper of Giorgio Vassallo can be promising.
Do you agree?
Hi Andrea,
I read with great interest your comment to the paper: “Electron Structure, Ultra-Dense Hydrogen and Low Energy Nuclear Reactions”, published on September 30 2018 by Antonino Oscar Di Tommaso, finally a solid explanation of the enormous excess of heat that everybody can understand.
I remember that in january and december 2015 “a lume di naso” (by the light of the nose) hehehe, a small lamp lighted itself in my head about the possible role of antimatter, (even if now we speak of virtual particles), and I posted it twice on this blog.
Best regards
Alessandro Coppi
Jean:
Yes, I am still convinced of this, because here is nothing anomalous, if we consider millions of years, not hundreds of years. Nonetheless, I think that human activities can worsen the situations locally. Anyway, it is useful to alarm mankind so that the environment can be improved: like to say that uncorrect statements can trigger correct behavior. Obviously, my opinion can be wrong, as always.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Are you still convinced that all these anomalous hurricanes, destructive rains, climate change are not due to human activities?
Thanks if you can tell us your updated opinion aboout this issue,
Jean
Kim:
the possibility that as a consequence of the Aharonov-Bohm effect , a rapid, collective and simultaneous variation of the Zitterbewegung phase catalyzes the creation of coherent systems like those described by H.E. Puthoff ( Charge Confinement by Casimir Forces, arXiv:physics/0408114, 2004 ): laboratory observation of high-density filamentation or clustering of electronic charge suggests that under certain conditions strong Coulomb repulsion can be overcome by cohesive forces as yet imprecisely defined.
This could catalize the formation of virtual particles and antiparticles with the same temperature of the core of the Ecat reactors and the subsequent annihilation that, with such masses, cannot generate high energy ionizing radiations.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The short video of 6 minutes resuming the demo of the Ecat QX at Stockholm, whose link is in the NEWS section of http://www.ecat.com is a masterpiece: in 6 min explains all the topics of the 3 hours full video. Very well done, thanks,
Don
You may not be able to answer this, but given what you know about Carnot & genset efficiency, etc.:
– if you had a customer who was interested in using the heat you provide to generate electricity, do you think they could produce it at a kWh cost that was competitive with current electricity rates (roughly 10 to 13 cents per kWh)?
Gale:
Yes, the same Ecat QX, as you saw it on youtube ( the video can be found also in http://www.ecat.com ), today has a power over 1 kW.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Arjen:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
another industry that could be very interested is the 3d metal printing industry
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604088/the-3-d-printer-that-could-finally-change-manufacturing/
maybe contact the leaders of that industry…
success
Dear Andrea:
With the COP of the SK do you think desalination is competitive?
Chuck Davis,
Imagine how smooth and quiet the Velocity would be with an eCat-powered electric motor. Velocity is an excellent choice with itsrear propeller. It would be a dream to fly.
Steve
Steve Swatman:
Yes, distillation processes could find help with the Ecat.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
CC:
Moreless, yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Steven N. Karels:
We are on the same wavelength!
I had kitplanes in my mind in my comment, specifically the Velocity kitplane. But I was thinking of an electric motor supplied with electricity from the Ecat for all phases of flight; the power train would be sized to provide sufficient power for the take off with max load.
Warm Regards,
Chuck Davis
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Are the COP of the Ecat QX and the Ecat SK the same?
It struck me that an industry that could readily make use of the Ecat’s heat generation would be the alcohol industry, they use a lot of heat in most processes.
Vivienne:
I think so.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Pekka Janhunen ,
I appreciate your post but I believe the logic is reversed. The power utilization for a conventional aircraft is highest during the initial climb to cruising altitude. The power needed at altitude is minimal – not changing altitude plus thinner air so less air resistance. So a constant power source, such as an eCat-based motor would be best served for the cruise mode. The supplemental onboard conventional fuel mode would only be required for take-off and, if the pilot had a “missed approach”, the power needed to go around and attempt another landing(s).
This would mean the only conventional fuel onboard would be required for take-off and, as needed, a number of “go arounds”.
The alternative would be a sufficiently large onboard eCat-based generation to eliminate the conventional fuel items (motor, fuel tanks, and fuel). A trade-off problem for future engineers.
Steven N. Karels:
I agree.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
TheFutureIsNow:
Thank you for the information: I’ll take a look.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Pekka Janhunen:
Yes, I agree with you.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
So you think that the domestic Ecat will be based upon the structure of the QX, not of the SK?
Dear Andrea Rossi
Concerning what Chuck Davis wrote. Hybrid aeroplanes are at planning stage. Similar to hybrid cars, they would use electric motors for takeoff and landing, and normal fuel for the cruise. The benefit is more silent takeoff, and also better fuel economy because the normal engines can be dimensioned for the cruise, no need to dimension them for the takeoff. The E-cat would plug in rather nicely in this picture. No need to have a thrust-producing E-cat jet engine, enough to be able to make electricity with E-cats onboard the aircraft. The number of generators can be much more than one, so that if one fails, plane still works. Furthermore, should all the E-cats suddenly fail (I don’t know how), plane can still land because has electric power enough for short flight and landing stored in batteries.
That said, I strongly think that it is the right thing for you to concentrate on heat and electricity production on ground, at this moment. The customer does what he wants with the heat, and at some future day the customer might be also an aviation company.
Best regards, /pekka
Dear Andrea,
Have you ever read the book by Kenneth Shoulders entitled, “EV – A Tale of Discovery”?
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I generally agree that an eCat-based engine certified for aeronautical use is a decade or two away. However, there are specialty applications that might be able to use it:
a. unmanned drones, especially large, long-duration applications – think 6 months of continuous flight.
b. Experimental aircraft – these unique, one-of-a-kind applications have used non-certified automobile engines for aircraft powerplants.
c. Specialty applications – long duration flights – over the oceans or sparsely inhabited areas like deserts or jungles, where an aircraft falling out of the sky does little property damage or is a mall threat to human life.
TheFutureIsNow:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Chuck Davis,
It is possible to start the Ecat QX and SK by means of a battery, but I am afraid that this has nothing to do with the time necessary for aeronautical applications. I do not think I will see any application of the genre during my lifetime. Generation of heat and of electricity, this is the focus.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I’m now firmly convinced that the primary fundamental mechanism of LENR is the production of electrically charged EVOs and the emission of magnetically charged (electrically neutral) strange radiation particles — which are perhaps fragments of Ultra Dense Hydrogen — during their decomposition. The production of EVOs/SR can take place in the lattice of a metal hydride when fracto-emission takes place, on the surface of an LENR fuel when surface plasmon polaritons produce intense electric fields upon encountering cracks or protrusions, or in a hydrogen plasma (enhanced dramatically when additions of catalytic elements like argon, helium, atomized lithium, atomized strontium, or other elements are added). By adding common sense enhancements to the above systems, the production of EVOs and SR can be enhanced dramatically. Moreover, the use of “cats” or secondary layers of fuel around the innermost reactor or “magnetic mirror” configurations to magnetically trap the EVOs/SR can make sure that none of these active agents escape into the environment.
I’m really excited about the future!
Dear Andrea,
if it is possible to start the Ecat with a battery, then I believe that the time to make aeronautical applications will be shorter.
Warm Regards,
Chuck Davis
Vittorio:
Yes, the COP has not changed.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi:
In the video ‘YouTube Ecat QX demo of November 24 in Stockholm’ we can see a very low consume of electric energy.
Now that the Ecat QX has a power over 1kW is the COP the same?
Nils Fryklund:
I think that aeronautic applications are very far from now, but the application to turbines to make electricity or heat is close.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
At the end of January we will present our service based on the sale of heat made by the industrialized Ecat.
This is all I can say right now.
Thank you for your attention to our work,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Can you give us an update on the commercialization status of the E-Cat. What should we expect to see over the coming weeks and months?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea!
I ment that because you are testing a gasturbine I wonder if E-catSK is placed in a modyfied combuster, instead of ordinary fuel nozzle, and if a motor like that can fit in comercial aircrafts to avoid lots of tons of fuel.
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Nils Fryklund:
I did not understand exactly your questions: can you rephrase?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gerard McEk:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Leslie:
Yes.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Laurel:
Yes. It can be used to preheat the fluid.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
This is a more detailed presentation of Andrea Calaon’s theory.
https://lenr-calaon-explanation.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/6/13166465/electron_mediated_nuclear_reactions.pdf
Kind regards, Gerard
Dear Andrea!
You have mentioned that you are testing gasturbines.
The only thing I know about gasturbines is that the air is compressed to about 20 bar. Thereafter is the air heated by for example E-catSK and is expanded lineary with the temperature increase before it meets the outlet turbine.
This must be ideal for comercial airplanes, there you will lose lots of tons of fuel, more cheap and eco-friendly.
Am I right or did I misunderstand, or would E-catSK take to big space with the high effect needed? Or is the control current for E-catSK to high?
I wish you good luck with your production and tests.
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Dr Rossi,
Is it possible to recover in full all the heat dissipated in the control box?
I think that a synthesis of the theoretic hints of the Stockholm presentation and the ideas in the paper of Giorgio Vassallo can be promising.
Do you agree?
dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
Your answer to the banana-monkey of the Rock and Trolls was past due.
We totally agree,
Peter
Alessandro Coppi:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Andrea,
I read with great interest your comment to the paper: “Electron Structure, Ultra-Dense Hydrogen and Low Energy Nuclear Reactions”, published on September 30 2018 by Antonino Oscar Di Tommaso, finally a solid explanation of the enormous excess of heat that everybody can understand.
I remember that in january and december 2015 “a lume di naso” (by the light of the nose) hehehe, a small lamp lighted itself in my head about the possible role of antimatter, (even if now we speak of virtual particles), and I posted it twice on this blog.
Best regards
Alessandro Coppi
Jean:
Yes, I am still convinced of this, because here is nothing anomalous, if we consider millions of years, not hundreds of years. Nonetheless, I think that human activities can worsen the situations locally. Anyway, it is useful to alarm mankind so that the environment can be improved: like to say that uncorrect statements can trigger correct behavior. Obviously, my opinion can be wrong, as always.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Are you still convinced that all these anomalous hurricanes, destructive rains, climate change are not due to human activities?
Thanks if you can tell us your updated opinion aboout this issue,
Jean
Kim:
the possibility that as a consequence of the Aharonov-Bohm effect , a rapid, collective and simultaneous variation of the Zitterbewegung phase catalyzes the creation of coherent systems like those described by H.E. Puthoff ( Charge Confinement by Casimir Forces, arXiv:physics/0408114, 2004 ): laboratory observation of high-density filamentation or clustering of electronic charge suggests that under certain conditions strong Coulomb repulsion can be overcome by cohesive forces as yet imprecisely defined.
This could catalize the formation of virtual particles and antiparticles with the same temperature of the core of the Ecat reactors and the subsequent annihilation that, with such masses, cannot generate high energy ionizing radiations.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Don Bicksler:
Thank you. The link can be found also on Youtube “6 minutes video of the Ecat QX demo in Stockholm Nov 24 2017”.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Walter P. Christmas:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Can you indicate the core point of the article of Professors Vassallo and Di Tommaso?
Cheers
Kim
The short video of 6 minutes resuming the demo of the Ecat QX at Stockholm, whose link is in the NEWS section of http://www.ecat.com is a masterpiece: in 6 min explains all the topics of the 3 hours full video. Very well done, thanks,
Don
Dear Andrea,
You may not be able to answer this, but given what you know about Carnot & genset efficiency, etc.:
– if you had a customer who was interested in using the heat you provide to generate electricity, do you think they could produce it at a kWh cost that was competitive with current electricity rates (roughly 10 to 13 cents per kWh)?
Thanks, WaltC
Domenico Canino:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gale:
Yes, the same Ecat QX, as you saw it on youtube ( the video can be found also in http://www.ecat.com ), today has a power over 1 kW.
Warm Regards,
A.R.