United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

 

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  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    We’ll see.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea:
    Maybe the need of pollution free energy sources will accelerate also the air and space applications of the Ecat, starting with prototypes that do not need certifications,
    Warm Regards,
    Chuck Davis

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka janhunen:
    I agree.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea,
    No need to be sorry, because I am not suggesting that Leonardo should build airplanes. Rather, I’m saying that what you are currently doing (making electricity at level 8-9/10) is probably the best way forward, not only from the point of view of ground-based applications, but also from the point of view of aviation. My point is that building a “normal” open E-cat based turbojet engine (that is, a jet that produces thrust by blowing air) is probably not very fruitful, because more fruitful is to build a turbine (like you are doing) that can generate electricity anywhere, first on ground, later maybe in airplane by some of your customer.

    Overall, I understand and agree that Leonardo Corp should concentrate on something, which is making heat, and from this point of view, thinking of other applications (aviation, space, ships, etc.) might sound like a waste of time at this point. However, once the opportunity arises, companies will emerge to utilize them. It makes sense, in my opinion, to think beforehand (i.e., now) how the E-cat suits different purposes, even if Leonardo Corp would not be the company that will actually make those derived applications.
    regards, /pekka

  • Andrea Rossi

    CC:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Sorry, but that is a mined field from which I stay away . In case the plane falls down we could have terrific afterwards.
    For the time being we will focus on heat and electricity.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Hergen:
    To make heat is the simpler application of the Ecat. Theoretically there are no limitations about where to supply heat, but the situations must be analyzed with distinction.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    It does not need to be stopped.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Pekka Janhunen, I found your comment regards the future of aviation to be interesting but not surprising regards the present day designs that have stood for many years. I am referring to efficiency and noise level. However, for your information there is an accredited flow control technology designed specifically to overcome noise and maximize efficiency in both the aircraft and turbine industry to name two such industries. Consequently, this technology was examined by the power industry and verified, submitted to the Boeing Corporation and General Electric, both of which refused comment. It was denied demonstrations in universities and government research establishments. Finally it was admitted to, that it was before it’s time and labelled a ‘destructive technology’. This of course was verbally behind closed doors. What this technology does is provide an insight into ‘the static and mobile mechanics of energy interaction’ with regards atomic dimensions i.e. micro and also macro dimensions. The mechanism held several patents being designed upon accepted mechanical principles. It is because of my own personal experiences with regards a new technology that I am aware of the difficulties encountered by privately funded pioneers within our scientific community. It seems, to me, that in certain areas of endeavour we have, for some reason, reached a point of stagnation whereby we are experiencing a momentary hiatus in certain areas of academic scientific research and understanding. Regards, Eric Ashworth

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Is the 27 kW E-Cat SK factory heater running continuously, or is it something that needs to be stopped and re-started frequentlyfor testing purposes?

    Kind regards,

    Frank Acland

  • CC

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
    For now the Ecat cannoot be installed in houses or condos for certifications issues, correct?

  • Hergen

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    in the past you said, you wanted to use your heating service for industrial applications. You mentioned food processing. Now your first application is the heating of a building. Will the heating of buildings become a branch of your heating service? If yes, are the following types of buildings suitabel for your heating service?

    – office buildings
    – shopping centers, congress centers
    – public swimming halls (water and air)
    – greenhouses

    Further question: Do you plan to install a further e-cat SK at a site of a client before your presentation in january?

    Thank you for your answers,

    E. Hergen

  • Dear Andrea,

    I want to add a few more remarks, to increase the level of concretia. Hobbyists at Malmi Airport in southern Finland collected money and recently bought a Slovenian Pipistrel electric airplane. This plane is certified for one pilot, has two 56 kg lithium battery packs, can fly approximately 100km distance, and consumes 18 kW of electric power in level flight. One could replace one of the 56 kg battery packs with an E-cat based electric generator that produces 18 kW electric (~60 W thermal). Regarding certification, one must ask what are the possible failure modes. If the E-cat module fails to operate, for example, the plane can still land with the remaining battery. Possibly, regarding certification, the E-cat version would not be considered a new type, which would make certification easier. Furthermore, at least in Finland, the Pipistrel is certified as a so-called ultralight aircraft. The ultralight certification process is easier than for other aircraft.

    r:/pekka

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Your insight is intelligent, but my experience in the field of certifications tells me that tens of years will pass before the Ecat applications will be allowed to be realized in the air and space sector. Besides, while our technology is very advanced to make heat and electricity via-turbines, we are very green for air and space. In a scale from 1 to ten, we are 10 for heating, 8/9 for electricity, 0.1 for air and space.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stephen:
    3.
    Yes.
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Stephen

    Hi Andrea Rossi

    I think earlier this week you mentioned in one of your replies that the eventual 40 MW plant acquisition will be by one customer but distributed.

    Does this mean

    1. A single 40 MW plant on one site with the heat distributed over the larger site?
    2. Many smaller plants totaling up to 40 MW on one site?
    3. Like 2 but distributed in different geographical locations?

    If 3 is the current facility a pilot one for the following ones?

    Is the company considering international use as well as locally in the USA?

    It sounds promising the developments so far

    Thanks and Best Regards
    Stephen

  • Dear Andrea,

    The future of aviation is likely to be electric, because electric motors produce much less noise (15 dB, I was told), and because electric motors have high power density to enable a short runway or even VTOL (vertical take-off and landing). Therefore, if I were you, I would encapsulate the gas turbine E-cat so that it can be used to make electricity onboard the aircraft, not used as a traditional “open” jet engine, which is very noisy. To make it even more silent, one could turn on the E-cat based turbine generator only during cruise phase, and perform the takeoff and landing by battery power alone. Batteries are good enough to do that, even if they are not fit for a prolonged cruise.

    I recently attended a workshop about electric aircraft and learned about those issues.

    The E-cat can give such a plane an unlimited range, while the use of electric motors gives it silent operations and short runway requirements or VTOL, so that the airfield can exist near the customer, maybe even at his home. What you are currently doing is well aligned with this kind of transportation revolution, just perhaps with small technical modifications and considerations which I suggested above.

    regards, /pekka

  • Andrea Rossi

    Mike Casbon:
    Possibly.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Mike Casbon

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    During the demonstration could you (would you please) show the apparatus currently being used in the customer’s facility?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels,
    Thank you for the suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven N. Larels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    If you are able to successfully demonstrate a 26kW thermal output powered by a 120VAC, 60 Hz, single phase power outlet with an current limitation of 15 or 20 Amps, you will have demonstrated an effective COP of 10 or greater.

    20 Amps x 120 Vac = 2.4kW input with a 26 kW thermal output.

    I assume you are ready for the backlash from the scientific community? I know you say that the end of Jan 2019 event is not a scientific validation but a commercial demonstration. But it will draw attention. Please be as transparent as you can be and record all for posterity.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    Not done yet.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea,
    What is the power density of the couple Ecat-gas turbine? I wonder if it is fit for a light aircraft.
    Warm Regards,
    Chuck Davis

  • Andrea Rossi

    Sam:
    He,he,he
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Sam

    Hello Dr Rossi

    These are a couple of links to articles
    on trade secrets.

    http://ipjournal.law.wfu.edu/2011/02/shh-its-a-secret-coca-colas-recipe-revealed/

    https://gizmodo.com/this-is-the-vault-where-kfc-guards-the-colonels-secret-1650566046

    BTW now that you are heating the customer factory
    with the ECat I can feel myself warmed when you
    sign off with Warm Regards when you comment.

    Regards
    Sam

  • Andrea Rossi

    Joseph J:
    Not yet.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Joseph J

    Dear Andrea

    Is the e-cat sk certified as a green energy source? (Needed for green subsidy and CO2 reduction premiums)

    Kind Regards
    JJ

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    Gas turbine remains my pet project.
    Thank you for your sustain,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Giuseppina Soden:
    No, it will not. To avoid disappointments, I want one more time explain what is a commercial presentation: we are not presenting to the scientific community a theory or a prototype to be tested and validated, corroborated by full scientific information. We are presenting a product to sell a service to our actual and potential clients. We have to show that our product make profits.
    Our position is very similar to a model that is taken from a completely different world, but helps to understand: observe the Coca Cola policy: they never gave any hint about their industrial secret. I visited the Coca Cola Museum in Atlanta where they conserve in a well guarded safe the secret part of their IP. They advertise Coca Cola not as a food scientifically proven as good, they sell and advertise ( with extremely sophysticated means ) the Coca Cola product as a good drink that gives a good taste to their Customers at a price accessible to everybody. This is exactly what we are going to do: give the taste of the profits that will be generated by the use of the Ecat. This will disappoint them who will look for scientific information, but our target of the presentation are the Clients. By the way, they will not be going to buy the Ecat, but just to buy the heat she will generate. We will offer the image of the Ecat SK in operation, will show how much energy we are consuming, it will be, I think, very interesting, but, I promise, disappointing for anybody that looks for information to compete.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi

    Your industrial project is progressing fast and we can not wait to see the January 31st presentation. The critics and jeers emanate from your colleagues of hot fusion not surprising. You make them shade and your baby who has just emerged will compete and impact their own work. The competition is a jungle where all the shots are not allowed but are done. The most twisted blows of your competitors will multiply in the hope of making you fall.
    However you have supporters who have supported you and will support you in this commercial jungle.

    Do you currently have time to devote to gas turbine R & D?

    All my modest support to your team
    Best regards
    Raffaele

  • Giuseppina Soden

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Do you think that the presentation of January 31st will satisfy the sceptics?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Asia:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    TheFutureIsNow:
    1- Without the boiler the Ecat weights 1 kg, the Control Panel 10 kg
    2- during the presentation will be seen the T
    3- no, but you made a point: to foresee annti-sismic applications in sismic areas can be a good idea
    4- confidential
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- yes
    2- no phase changes
    3- yes
    4- yes
    5- no. Again: this is not a validation test, this is the presentation of the product by which we will supply our heating service
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Martyn Aubrey:
    During thpresentation we will detail also the dimensions.
    Anyway, the Ecat is very small, the boiler it is applied to has the same dimensions of a normal boiler with the same rating.
    Thank you for your attention to our work,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Martyn Aubrey

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    It is very good news that you have a production grade Ecat generating commercial levels of heat at your customer’s factory.

    Please can you tell us the dimensions of the newly installed 27kW Ecat, and the size of the associated control unit.

    I am really looking forward to watching the product launch online on Thursday 31st January. It will be a very important World changing event.

    Well Done and Good Luck!

    Kind Regards,
    Martyn Aubrey

  • Asia

    Dear Andrea:
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com is very inspiring.
    All the best,
    Asia

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Please confirm or modify.

    1. I understand that at the Jan 2019 event you will demonstration a 26kW thermal output eCat which will be powered from a standard 120VAC, 60Hz single phase wall outlet, of the typical type found in the USA?
    2. In the Jan 2019 demonstration, that no phase change to the heated medium will occur, at least in an external sense?
    3. That the heated medium will use city water as the medium to be heated?
    4. That will you have computer-based sensors measuring the temperatures and flow rate of the medium and this data will be recorded and made available?
    5. In addition to the computer-based sensors, some means of temperature and flow rate indications will be provided for observation purposes?

  • TheFutureIsNow

    Dear Andrea,

    1) How much does the entire 27kW module weigh (both with and without the power supply)?
    2) What is the maximum surface temperature produced that water could be exposed to if steam was being produced rather than hot air?
    3) Have you applied vibration to the module to make sure it would keep working during a situation like the recent Alaska earthquake?
    4) How much electrical output from the device are you thermalizing back into heat? For example, of the 27 kilowatts how many kilowatts were originally anomalous electrical output that you didn’t want to bother harnessing?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you for your opinion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Friends,

    Finally there is some wrestling here again. Nothing better to pass the time when waiting for January 31st.

    Have you already experienced that a technical director tells his investors that everything they thought to realize has no chance of success, because the advancing insight recently taught them that they were wrong from the start? And that after tens of billions of investments.

    There is no problem, I think, to use tax money for research and development, however strange that research may be. There can never be money shortage in the world, but there is always a shortage of knowledge and insight. And everyone of significance contributes to the development through all sorts of taxes. Even if all investors have lost their money, the wages of the scientists are still paid, and perhaps the insights they have learned are useful within a hundred years.

    Tax money has been used for war throughout history. We learned a huge amount of that.

    I do think that everyone realizes that Andrea Rossi discovered the missing link between pure nuclear science and practical application. Even though he had to burn his fingers for that.

    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  • Andrea Rossi

    Matthias Junghans:
    Thank you for your recognition of the work of our Team.
    About investors: I am terrorized to allow persons lose their money for my fault. Our business is still in an area full of risks. We are running on a mined field.
    When our products will be consolidated by an abundant diffusion, we will think about going public, but at the moment we do not have the bases necessary to be sure that our investors do not run through the risk to lose their savings.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Matthias Junghans

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    Congratulations for your groundbreaking success done lately.
    All humanity hopes the Ecat will be useful to help reduce the global warming.
    Question: when small investors will be able to invest in your concern?
    Keep fighting!
    Kind Regards,
    Matthew

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Yes, he surely is.
    We count only on the satisfaction of our Clients, since we do not sell plants, do not look for public funding: our profit comes only from the sales of heat.
    This fact is troubling our enemies, that lately are getting nervous and are squeezing their trolls, physicists, engineers or simply imbeciles as they might be. Ohh, by the way: they are again pulling back events of my past, that happened about 30 years ago: to know how things have gone and evidence of this, please go to
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    Strange that this happens as the presentation of our industrialized product is so close…what a strange coincidence! Somebody is worried to lose funds for some stuff that never worked and never will work? Mah! ” Ai posteri l’ardua sentenza”.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Nils Fryklund:
    It is for one Client, divided in different places.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Nils Fryklund

    Dear Andrea!
    Is the 40 MW-plant only for one customer, or divided to several customers during the year?
    Seems to be to much power for one customer, if it is not going to be a power plant construction.

    I agree totally with the Uzikov couple.
    Best regards
    Nils Fryklund

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    I believe you have already made a preliminary calculation of the COP of the plant to heat your client’s factory. Without a doubt there are longstanding records for heating the rooms in this location. And no doubt, you are already measuring the total electric power in input. May I only ask if you and your customer are satisfied after these first days?
    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Michel, Yes maybe hundreds of theories on the web but unlike hot fusion the theories are with regards an actual working product and yes I agree all major countries have committed to hot fusion research and it no doubt is progressing but at a snails pace because of a major obstacle that some say can eventually be overcome but my own opinion is that it is not possible but I could be wrong. My question is, what is the problem of investing in a technology i.e. LENRs that is producing remarkable results due to the endeavours of people researching these reactions (Andrea Rossi being one such world leading specialist). I am not saying abandon hot fusion entirely but give maybe 1% of available research funds that go towards hot fusion research to these LENR research specialists with no strings attached because of their proven commitment to obtaining a clean energy technology and their quest for the complete theory, especially with todays eagerness to combat climate change. Surely you must wonder why all the major countries appear to have little interest in LENR technology. As I say I am not against hot fusion research but as a tax payer and with regards my interests, I like my money to be spent on new technology and especially one that is giving good results for a noble cause. Regards Eric Ashworth.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    Right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea Rossi,
    It seems simple to install an Ecat SK: just disinstall former heaters and connect the Ecat to the same system.
    Warm Regards,
    Chuck Davis

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