Xavier Pitz:
1- also the data related to the power of the Ecat SKL module will be delivered during the presentation
2- no, there are not
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gian:
They come from different parts of the world and it is impossible make any forecast about the corona virus times.
Yes, I am optimistic.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Until the end of the corona virus issue I cannot know when the tests will be completed. Presently I am working alone.
So, while the R&D proceeds well also using Skype, for the tests it is necessary a series of personal meetings.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The question I would pose is whether a 1 hour demonstration of the eCat SKL (without any input power) is sufficient to show that a hidden Li Ion battery could not be the source of the observed power.
Assumptions:
1 eCat SKL: 100W total power output, mass = 100 grams, electrical efficiency of 80%, only electrical output is observed, observation time = 1 hour.
(1 hour was assumed as that is the typical time (1 to 2 hours) in past demonstrations)
Lithium Ion battery characteristics: (Lithium Ion battery assumed as the most promising candidate based on densities)
Specific Power density: 200 – 330 W/kg
Specific Energy density: 100 – 200 W-hr/kg
Total Output of eCat SKL:
Specific Power density: 1,000 W/kg (100W / 0.1kg)
Specific Energy density: 1,000 W-hr/kg (100 W * 1 hour / 0.1 kg)
Electrical Output of eCat SKL:
Specific Power density: 800 W/kg (80% efficiency)
Specific Energy density: 800 W-hr/kg (80% efficiency)
Conclusion: Given the mass of the eCat SKL, the output power, and the 1 hour demonstration time, a Lithium Ion battery cannot supply the assumed observed power over a demonstration period of 1 hour or greater.
Dear Andrea,
if you can tell us from which countries the verifiers for the preliminary tests must come, we could evaluate how long we will have to wait for the start of the official tests.
I find it very positive that verifiers can already follow the operation of the Leonardo E-Cat SKL
remotely.
While regretting the delays, you seem optimistic and positive.
Thanks for what you are doing, best and warm wishes
Gian
Dear Dr Rossi,
Sweden chooses to keep business open as usual and trust in the judgement of its citizens in avoiding exposure.
This may prove to be the wisest strategy, with the vulnerable practicing social isolation. But that strategy
may put you at a higher risk so please be careful. https://youtu.be/DhUL3HkcaQ0
Regards,
Iggy
As we won’t learn about the specifications of the current E-Cat SKL before the demo, and as we all need inspiration / good news during this hard time, I’d like to share the following “LEGO-related” video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-RtJOfFlZU
This is a perfect example of what technology & ingenuity can achieve with small building blocks such as LEGOs.
Also very interesting in this video, is how they managed to cluster 2.304 * from the small LEGO technics 2,8 W motors to obtain the cumulative 5.3 HPs necessary to power the 1.5 tons LEGO car to achieve the blistering speed of 19 km/h.
Now, I was wondering, how much power would be generated by clustering 2.304 * E-Cat SKLs ?
OK, I was just kidding :), we will all have to wait for the demo…
Another question that you may answer :
Compared to the E-Cat SK, does the E-Cat SKL requires any additional expensive materials/components which would make it only economically viable for electricity production at the grid level (almost always at full power), and make its prohibitive for on-demand electricity generation onboard vehicles (where heavy batteries will still be the norm for years to come) ?
On Power Engineering issue March 31 2020:
Hydrogen-fired power promises carbon-free future, but requires huge investments: nearly 800 billions
Rod Walton
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I derived joy from adding wheels to a single Lego brick and calling it a toy. I also collaborated with friends to build 1/4th scale car. They make tall giraffes and small castles out of legos.
Q1. Does your LEGO analogy hold up at a household level or at a commercial storefront level as well? (I’ll be happy with either answer!)
Q2. Once the safety certifications are made, and when you are financially comfortable, perhaps the evening before commercial launch, will you donate a large, stand alone ‘minestrone soup pot’ that can daily cook the soup for about 100 people, without any external energy source, to the church of your choice? (I’d love for them to be able to say that this was the first fruit of Andrea‘s efforts that changed humanity to kindness.)
Sincerely,
— LilyLover
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Since you stated that you could provide the requested information, please provide the following information:
a. The projected measured power output in Watts
b. The mass of the eCat SKL unit in grams or kg.
c. The mass of any other device controlling or providing power to the SKL unit in grams or kg.
d. The planned duration of the measured performance of the eCat SKL (either live or by the independent party) in hours.
Toussaint Francois:
The SKL is a module, like a brick of the LEGO. You can assemble unlimitedly more modules reaching any power you need.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
For the demonstration unit, can you provide the following information:
a. The projected measured power output in Watts
b. The mass of the eCat SKL unit in grams or kg.
c. The mass of any other device controlling or providing power to the SKL unit in grams or kg.
d. The planned duration of the measured performance of the eCat SKL (either live or by the independent party) in hours.
Dr Rossi,
in your paper http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
in par 5 you published the results of the experiment that confirm the theoretical hypothesis of par 1,2,3,4.
When in the SKL you get the max output of electricity directly from the plasma is the emission of heat reduced in proportion to the electricity generation ?
You reply to Daniel Galburt today is very interesting:
That the E-Cat SKL has operated without external power for over 24 hours generation 100W + of net electrical power.
1. Is this typical performance for the SKL nowadays, or was this an exception?
2. Have other persons witnessed and verified this performance, or just you in your own lab?
3. This performance, if safe and reliable, could make an extremely useful household product. Are you planning to launch the first SKL products for use in homes?
I hope all is going well with you, your team, and the testers from all the different parties.
I share the following as a possible bit of enjoyment and distraction. You may or may not find Richard Feynman’s Phd Thesis (The Principle of Least Action in Quantum Mechanics) an enjoyable topic. But, unless its offered, one will never know.
Link>> https://youtu.be/PJB-AXb1pvo
did I get your recent answer right that
1) the independent testing is done by a client?
2) Does that mean there won’t be a public presentation after finishing the test?
Sam:
Yes, it’s him. I am a reader of power engineering from the year 1972. There is always something to learn. In the year 1980 they published an article about my patent to turn wastes into fuel. Archeology… probably at those times Mr Rod Walton had not been born yet.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Xavier Pitz:
1- also the data related to the power of the Ecat SKL module will be delivered during the presentation
2- no, there are not
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Iggy Dalrymple:
I cannot say where I am.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
LeithT:
The answer is complex and depends on the situations,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gian:
They come from different parts of the world and it is impossible make any forecast about the corona virus times.
Yes, I am optimistic.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Until the end of the corona virus issue I cannot know when the tests will be completed. Presently I am working alone.
So, while the R&D proceeds well also using Skype, for the tests it is necessary a series of personal meetings.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N. Karels:
Thank you for your amalysis. The duration of the demo will be surely long enough to avoid misunderstandings.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
The question I would pose is whether a 1 hour demonstration of the eCat SKL (without any input power) is sufficient to show that a hidden Li Ion battery could not be the source of the observed power.
Assumptions:
1 eCat SKL: 100W total power output, mass = 100 grams, electrical efficiency of 80%, only electrical output is observed, observation time = 1 hour.
(1 hour was assumed as that is the typical time (1 to 2 hours) in past demonstrations)
Lithium Ion battery characteristics: (Lithium Ion battery assumed as the most promising candidate based on densities)
Specific Power density: 200 – 330 W/kg
Specific Energy density: 100 – 200 W-hr/kg
Total Output of eCat SKL:
Specific Power density: 1,000 W/kg (100W / 0.1kg)
Specific Energy density: 1,000 W-hr/kg (100 W * 1 hour / 0.1 kg)
Electrical Output of eCat SKL:
Specific Power density: 800 W/kg (80% efficiency)
Specific Energy density: 800 W-hr/kg (80% efficiency)
Conclusion: Given the mass of the eCat SKL, the output power, and the 1 hour demonstration time, a Lithium Ion battery cannot supply the assumed observed power over a demonstration period of 1 hour or greater.
Thoughts?
Hello DR Rossi
How are the tests going?
Are you thinking weeks or
months to complete?
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea,
if you can tell us from which countries the verifiers for the preliminary tests must come, we could evaluate how long we will have to wait for the start of the official tests.
I find it very positive that verifiers can already follow the operation of the Leonardo E-Cat SKL
remotely.
While regretting the delays, you seem optimistic and positive.
Thanks for what you are doing, best and warm wishes
Gian
Dear Andrea,
Has the E-Cat SKL evolved to the point that any produced heat can be handled passively or does it require active cooling?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Sweden chooses to keep business open as usual and trust in the judgement of its citizens in avoiding exposure.
This may prove to be the wisest strategy, with the vulnerable practicing social isolation. But that strategy
may put you at a higher risk so please be careful. https://youtu.be/DhUL3HkcaQ0
Regards,
Iggy
Dear Andrea,
As we won’t learn about the specifications of the current E-Cat SKL before the demo, and as we all need inspiration / good news during this hard time, I’d like to share the following “LEGO-related” video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-RtJOfFlZU
This is a perfect example of what technology & ingenuity can achieve with small building blocks such as LEGOs.
Also very interesting in this video, is how they managed to cluster 2.304 * from the small LEGO technics 2,8 W motors to obtain the cumulative 5.3 HPs necessary to power the 1.5 tons LEGO car to achieve the blistering speed of 19 km/h.
Now, I was wondering, how much power would be generated by clustering 2.304 * E-Cat SKLs ?
OK, I was just kidding :), we will all have to wait for the demo…
Another question that you may answer :
Compared to the E-Cat SK, does the E-Cat SKL requires any additional expensive materials/components which would make it only economically viable for electricity production at the grid level (almost always at full power), and make its prohibitive for on-demand electricity generation onboard vehicles (where heavy batteries will still be the norm for years to come) ?
@All : be well, stay well,
Best Regards,
Xavier Pitz
Dear Readers:
Please go to
http://www.rossilivecat.com
to find comments published today in other posts of this blog,
Warm Regards
A.R.
Rod Walton:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
On Power Engineering issue March 31 2020:
Hydrogen-fired power promises carbon-free future, but requires huge investments: nearly 800 billions
Rod Walton
LilyLover:
Q1- maybe
Q2- thank you for the suggestion: could be a nice idea
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Chuck Davis:
Premature.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, If my calculations are correct I will require 5 modules to supply my home with electricity!
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I derived joy from adding wheels to a single Lego brick and calling it a toy. I also collaborated with friends to build 1/4th scale car. They make tall giraffes and small castles out of legos.
Q1. Does your LEGO analogy hold up at a household level or at a commercial storefront level as well? (I’ll be happy with either answer!)
Q2. Once the safety certifications are made, and when you are financially comfortable, perhaps the evening before commercial launch, will you donate a large, stand alone ‘minestrone soup pot’ that can daily cook the soup for about 100 people, without any external energy source, to the church of your choice? (I’d love for them to be able to say that this was the first fruit of Andrea‘s efforts that changed humanity to kindness.)
Sincerely,
— LilyLover
Steven N. Karels:
As a matter of fact, what I said is that the data of the Ecat SKL will be published when it will be presented.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Since you stated that you could provide the requested information, please provide the following information:
a. The projected measured power output in Watts
b. The mass of the eCat SKL unit in grams or kg.
c. The mass of any other device controlling or providing power to the SKL unit in grams or kg.
d. The planned duration of the measured performance of the eCat SKL (either live or by the independent party) in hours.
Frank Acland:
The data related to the performance of the SKL will be given during the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
KeithT:
Not yet, but it is obviously a possible application, among all.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Has there been any attempt as yet of using one or more E-Cat SKL’s to supply electricity to an E-Cat SK?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Dear Andrea,
Is a single SKL Lego block rated at approximately 100W output?
Kindest regards,
Frank Acland
Toussaint Francois:
The SKL is a module, like a brick of the LEGO. You can assemble unlimitedly more modules reaching any power you need.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
One question please, at present the SKL has a power 100W in the future will it be possible to upscale the power of the SKL ?
Best Regards,
Toussaint François
Steven N. Karels:
a. yes
b. yes
c. yes
d. yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
CC:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
For the demonstration unit, can you provide the following information:
a. The projected measured power output in Watts
b. The mass of the eCat SKL unit in grams or kg.
c. The mass of any other device controlling or providing power to the SKL unit in grams or kg.
d. The planned duration of the measured performance of the eCat SKL (either live or by the independent party) in hours.
Dr Rossi,
in your paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
in par 5 you published the results of the experiment that confirm the theoretical hypothesis of par 1,2,3,4.
When in the SKL you get the max output of electricity directly from the plasma is the emission of heat reduced in proportion to the electricity generation ?
Frank Acland:
Correct,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Thank you for your reply — so I must assume that your first SKL products will be for industrial use only, correct?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Rick 57:
1 no
2 one size fits all by means of assembling. Smaller modules are not allowed so far
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
1- it is not an exception
2- other persons witnessed
3- no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
You reply to Daniel Galburt today is very interesting:
That the E-Cat SKL has operated without external power for over 24 hours generation 100W + of net electrical power.
1. Is this typical performance for the SKL nowadays, or was this an exception?
2. Have other persons witnessed and verified this performance, or just you in your own lab?
3. This performance, if safe and reliable, could make an extremely useful household product. Are you planning to launch the first SKL products for use in homes?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea,
I have a question regarding the cubic shape of the E-Cat SKL:
1) Is it required by some technical reason, or
2) It can be modified (within some limits) respecting the total volume, like 16x16x4
I’m thinking to applications, like notebooks, where a more “thin” shape is probably better…
Thanks a lot,
Riccardo
Milan:
1 also
2 it does not mean that
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Daniel Galburt:
1 yes
2 yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
WaltC:
Sorry, I cannot add further information after what I published in
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
and in
http://www.ecatskdemo.com
and in the service you can see googling
“Ecat QX presentation Stoscholm November 2017”
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Buck:
Thank you for the link and for your kind wishes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Good Day Andrea,
I hope all is going well with you, your team, and the testers from all the different parties.
I share the following as a possible bit of enjoyment and distraction. You may or may not find Richard Feynman’s Phd Thesis (The Principle of Least Action in Quantum Mechanics) an enjoyable topic. But, unless its offered, one will never know.
Link>> https://youtu.be/PJB-AXb1pvo
Best of Health and Well Being to all.
Sincerely,
Mason
Dr. Rossi,
Based on recent theoretical discussions, this is unclear to me:
– Are you finding isotopic shifts in the charge of the current E-Cat SKL device?
Best wishes with the test efforts & your team’s ongoing health!
Thanks, WaltC
@Ruby:
Thank you for your comment about the theoretical bases on
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
All the best,
CC
Dear Dr. Rossi,
1. Have you had a single ECat SKL generate 100 watts or more of net electrical power continuously over a 24 hour period?
2. If the answer to question 1 is Yes, then was the ECat SKL operating without an external electrical power source?
Warm Regards,
Dan Galburt
Dear Dr. Rossi,
did I get your recent answer right that
1) the independent testing is done by a client?
2) Does that mean there won’t be a public presentation after finishing the test?
Ulrich Kranz:
1 no
2 depends on the situations
3 yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sture Andreasson:
Nothing.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Yes, it’s him. I am a reader of power engineering from the year 1972. There is always something to learn. In the year 1980 they published an article about my patent to turn wastes into fuel. Archeology… probably at those times Mr Rod Walton had not been born yet.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
Do you know if this is the
Rod Walton that posts on
Rossi blog?
https://www.power-eng.com/author/rod-walton/
Regards
Sam