My silly suggestion for controller for multiple modules —
In the school days we used to have PE drills, standing and sitting. Smart kids would remember steps and could perform the drills with eyes closed. Yet, there was a drill demonstrator for kids that forget the steps. Mimicking the drill sergeant is easy for learning the first time or following without learning. I’m sure that you have the best support in the world but simply wanted to float this idea — can you have three AI-enabled controllers and seven or 97 mimickers (repeaters, delayed amplifiers) to control, say, 10 or 100 modules? The mimickers or the copy-catters, ‘COP-E-Cats’, will control the plasma by following the two best performers out of the three controllers. This will avoid the need for independently intelligent controllers. In the days of cheap computational power, there may not be much of cost savings by doing this, but thermodynamically, the decision making of controllers generates more heat than the ‘COP-E-Cat’ mimickers. This will help solve the coolness retention and optimization of AI’s responsibilities. For this to happen, I imagine that a very high degree of precision in manufacturing is required. But I think you’ve already achieved that or at least how to specify that. Creation of quasi-identical starting conditions, much like at the beginning of the F1 race will offer a realistic ability to mimic the leaders / “intelligent-controllers”.
Just as gun barrels are geometrically conditioned to compensate for manufacturing defects of the barrels or the bullets, you could condition the initial standing plasma perfectly as you like by material modifications around the plasma cylinder.
If all the misbehaving plasma (entropy) can be brought back on track by conductor of the orchestra, you only need one conductor as long as all the misbehavior is similar.
My wheat could be your chaff; so, please take this with a grain of salt.
Dr Rossi,
Many particles that are born during their interactions with the atmosphere atoms and molecules and arrive to sea level have a lifetime much shorter than the lifetime that would be necessary to cross the atmosphere and reach sea level. Is there an explication for this fact ?
Dear Readers,
Following my previous message let’s go further in analyzing the ECat SKL device in order to predict its design and parameters.
As I mentioned before to my mind Andrea Rossy and his Team in novel ECat version probably could have applied some elements from Kenneth Shoulders or similar effects. Of course, only partly. Everybody knows the difference between effects, which hundreds or even thousands and working model like SKL, generating stable excess of heat and electricity.
I guess most of Readers know the previous ECat versions as well as carefully studied Andrea Rossi sebsite blog and more or less possess scientific knowledge. Hence I propose all of you to join to the discussion if Andrea doesn’t mind it.
To my opinion novel ECat version could have compose Shoulders effect produced plasma and thermal ECats, generated excess of heat. How to combine these approaches, optimize them and improve?
As usual, when we try to recieve maximum energy from eather or Physical Vacuum, like in this case, we should create maximum power energy in one point, produce some kind of explosion, better in transient mode (at the same time total power and energy is not high). Therefore, input electric circuit should produce high voltage for stable plasma ball (or ballerina, I have to go back to the old name). The plasma thread should be of maximum length in order to increase transformation its energy by external winding for removing electricity. For this besides high difference of electric potentials, moremore electrical conducting environment (gaseous) for plasma should be used.
Additional power should be created by by superficial energy in nanostructured nickel, maximum saturated with hydrogen. Of course, the more hydrogen pressure will be in the system, the better.
Hydrogen circulation between the areas with normal and increased energy (transient mode) should be as often, as possible.
In addition to enhance effects high frequency electromagnetic oscillations as well as magnetic field overlay to stabilize effects can be applied.
We don,t know what scientific solutions implement Andrea with his Team in novel ECat version. I guess others, more perfect as he is going to invite us to his own presentation, rather than we invite him to our presentations. But we don’t have to be afraid of offering different approaches and solutions, even if wrong solutions. This is the only way advance forward. As they say, the road will settle the walking.
If Andrea support this proposal, he can prepare one more invitation letter for those, who guessed his technical solutions formore than 20 percent. Welcome also novel approaches that can be a prototype of the next generation ECat version.
It is not necessary to sit behind Andrea’s and his Team back at this difficult time. Especially their work results will use the whole world.
I apologize for mistakes as I wrote from phone.
Best regards,
Aleksei
Dear Andrea Rossi,
During current circumstances you can not have any demonstration at internet. But, could you please tell us, what kind of instructions the third party has given to your lab? Which answer do they need for be satisfyed?
Warm Regards
Sture Andreasson
Electrical power = 220W
Conversion efficiency = 90% (I am optimistic!)
Dimensions = 50.8mm x 50.8mm x 50.8mm (2 inch cube)
Weight = 175g
Each Ecat module would have a fixed socket on one side face, and a fixed plug on the opposite side face to allow connecting the units together in series to build up the voltage, as you have said, like Lego bricks. Multiple rows would then be combined in parallel to achieve the required power output.
Wishing good health to yourself, and to all our fellow readers of the JoNP.
We will overcome our present troubled times and come back even stronger.
Prof:
Note that the readings of the paper on Researchgate are about the same of http://www.ecatskdemo.com
This make me suppose that who read the paper has also watched the video, both published in January 2019
Dr Rossi,
Here are the stats on Researchgate I found today consulting your paper http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Total Readings: 46 001 ( fortysix thousand one ) !
Recommendations: 2 107
Citations: 16
Total Research Interest Index: 633.1
…and counting !
Congratulations for this excellent achievement: the world is looking at your work and I am not surprised.
Prof
A prism, with a hexagon as base with the side measuring 50mm, and a height of 98mm.
The electrical power is 245 watts, on a total generated power of 333 watts, or 73.57% efficiency.
The units can be stacked vertically and laterally: vertically to couple the electrical power, and laterally to connect them mechanically. This configuration weighs 777 grams per unit. Forced cooling is not necessary because vertical stacking creates an upward airflow sufficient to cool the surface (four faces of the hexagonal prisms).
Each unit initially costs € 57, but larger batteries cost slightly more per unit due to the more precise tolerances.
Finally, the color is anodized aluminum.
You indicate to date, a single Controller is needed to control a single eCat SKL.
1. Is the combined power consumption of the Controller and the eCat SKL less than the electrical output of the eCat SKL?
2. Is the power consumption of the Controller less than the power consumption of a single eCat SKL?
3. Is it your plan that a single Controller will be able to manage several eCat SKL units?
Steven N. Karels:
1. no, the weight of the controller , that is 80 grams, is not included in the quest
2. not yet
3. n.a.
4. n.a.
5. the data related to the Ecat SKL will be delivered at its presentation
6. n.a.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
For the eCat SKL, with regards to the controller of the eCat SKL:
1. Does the mass specification (e.g., 100 grams) of the eCat SKL include the mass of the controller?
2. Can the Controller simultaneously manage more than one eCat SKL?
3. If so, what is the theoretical limit of the number of eCat SKLs one Controller can simultaneously manage?
4. What is the maximum number of eCat SKLs you have simultaneously managed with a single Controller to date?
5. What is the power consumption of a single Controller managing a single eCat SKL?
6. Does the Controller’s power consumption increase when additional eCat SKLs are simultaneously managed by the Controller? if so, by how much per eCat SKL?
1. What effect has the solitude enforced by coronavirus had on your work?
2. Have you had success yet combining two SKLs to increase the overall power output?
3. Has anyone apart from you built a working SKL without you being physically present with them?
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you have already received the data imagined by many Readers on the characteristics of Ecat SKL.
I guess someone has given numbers too far from reality (in excess or in defect).
But may I ask if anyone has approached some real values in some way?
Anyway, here are my predictions:
power 220 W.
conversion efficiency 83%
dimensions 90 x 100 x 110 mm
weight 1.25 kg
Sincerely
Italo R.
Hallo Dear Mr Andrea Rossi,
here is my guess:
power out 550 W
conversion efficiency 80%
dimensions 100 x 200 x 100 mm
weight 1.5 kg
“Finis Coronat Opus” ( The end crowns the work )
Good luck and stay well,
Yours Heinz Sause
Dear Dr. Rossi,
My silly suggestion for controller for multiple modules —
In the school days we used to have PE drills, standing and sitting. Smart kids would remember steps and could perform the drills with eyes closed. Yet, there was a drill demonstrator for kids that forget the steps. Mimicking the drill sergeant is easy for learning the first time or following without learning. I’m sure that you have the best support in the world but simply wanted to float this idea — can you have three AI-enabled controllers and seven or 97 mimickers (repeaters, delayed amplifiers) to control, say, 10 or 100 modules? The mimickers or the copy-catters, ‘COP-E-Cats’, will control the plasma by following the two best performers out of the three controllers. This will avoid the need for independently intelligent controllers. In the days of cheap computational power, there may not be much of cost savings by doing this, but thermodynamically, the decision making of controllers generates more heat than the ‘COP-E-Cat’ mimickers. This will help solve the coolness retention and optimization of AI’s responsibilities. For this to happen, I imagine that a very high degree of precision in manufacturing is required. But I think you’ve already achieved that or at least how to specify that. Creation of quasi-identical starting conditions, much like at the beginning of the F1 race will offer a realistic ability to mimic the leaders / “intelligent-controllers”.
Just as gun barrels are geometrically conditioned to compensate for manufacturing defects of the barrels or the bullets, you could condition the initial standing plasma perfectly as you like by material modifications around the plasma cylinder.
If all the misbehaving plasma (entropy) can be brought back on track by conductor of the orchestra, you only need one conductor as long as all the misbehavior is similar.
My wheat could be your chaff; so, please take this with a grain of salt.
Good Good Friday & Happy Easter!
Sincerely,
LilyLover
Dr Rossi,
Many particles that are born during their interactions with the atmosphere atoms and molecules and arrive to sea level have a lifetime much shorter than the lifetime that would be necessary to cross the atmosphere and reach sea level. Is there an explication for this fact ?
In case Peter (April 9, 2020 at 5:42 AM) should be the winner of the contest, the energy demand for the entire world would be rapidly overcome…
Hello DR Rossi
Have a Good Easter.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDFzxXvEtf9D0&feature=share&playnext=1
Regards
Sam
Aleksei Savchenko:
I agree.
Thank you for your help to our beloved Readers,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Readers,
Following my previous message let’s go further in analyzing the ECat SKL device in order to predict its design and parameters.
As I mentioned before to my mind Andrea Rossy and his Team in novel ECat version probably could have applied some elements from Kenneth Shoulders or similar effects. Of course, only partly. Everybody knows the difference between effects, which hundreds or even thousands and working model like SKL, generating stable excess of heat and electricity.
I guess most of Readers know the previous ECat versions as well as carefully studied Andrea Rossi sebsite blog and more or less possess scientific knowledge. Hence I propose all of you to join to the discussion if Andrea doesn’t mind it.
To my opinion novel ECat version could have compose Shoulders effect produced plasma and thermal ECats, generated excess of heat. How to combine these approaches, optimize them and improve?
As usual, when we try to recieve maximum energy from eather or Physical Vacuum, like in this case, we should create maximum power energy in one point, produce some kind of explosion, better in transient mode (at the same time total power and energy is not high). Therefore, input electric circuit should produce high voltage for stable plasma ball (or ballerina, I have to go back to the old name). The plasma thread should be of maximum length in order to increase transformation its energy by external winding for removing electricity. For this besides high difference of electric potentials, moremore electrical conducting environment (gaseous) for plasma should be used.
Additional power should be created by by superficial energy in nanostructured nickel, maximum saturated with hydrogen. Of course, the more hydrogen pressure will be in the system, the better.
Hydrogen circulation between the areas with normal and increased energy (transient mode) should be as often, as possible.
In addition to enhance effects high frequency electromagnetic oscillations as well as magnetic field overlay to stabilize effects can be applied.
We don,t know what scientific solutions implement Andrea with his Team in novel ECat version. I guess others, more perfect as he is going to invite us to his own presentation, rather than we invite him to our presentations. But we don’t have to be afraid of offering different approaches and solutions, even if wrong solutions. This is the only way advance forward. As they say, the road will settle the walking.
If Andrea support this proposal, he can prepare one more invitation letter for those, who guessed his technical solutions formore than 20 percent. Welcome also novel approaches that can be a prototype of the next generation ECat version.
It is not necessary to sit behind Andrea’s and his Team back at this difficult time. Especially their work results will use the whole world.
I apologize for mistakes as I wrote from phone.
Best regards,
Aleksei
Donald G. Chandler:
Thank you for the data.
About your order, no problem: this is America, instead of 100 you will pay 99.99
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Elec out = 100W
Eff = 72.5%
Dim = 10x10x10 cm
Mass = 800g
And I’d like to order 1 Trillion units please. Can you provide a volume discount? 😀
Mats Heijkenskjold:
Thank you for your data,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter:
Data received, thank you, also for your patience.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Martyn Aubrey:
Thanks, data received.
Same wishes to you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sture Andreasson:
Sorry, this is confidential, so far,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Richard:
Absolutely,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi:
Yoy still optimist about the Ecat SKL ?
Dear Andrea Rossi,
During current circumstances you can not have any demonstration at internet. But, could you please tell us, what kind of instructions the third party has given to your lab? Which answer do they need for be satisfyed?
Warm Regards
Sture Andreasson
Dear Dr Rossi,
Here is my guess for the Ecat SKL:
Electrical power = 220W
Conversion efficiency = 90% (I am optimistic!)
Dimensions = 50.8mm x 50.8mm x 50.8mm (2 inch cube)
Weight = 175g
Each Ecat module would have a fixed socket on one side face, and a fixed plug on the opposite side face to allow connecting the units together in series to build up the voltage, as you have said, like Lego bricks. Multiple rows would then be combined in parallel to achieve the required power output.
Wishing good health to yourself, and to all our fellow readers of the JoNP.
We will overcome our present troubled times and come back even stronger.
All the Best,
Martyn Aubrey
My guess:
– Electrical Power Output: 340 kiloWatt
– Conversion Efficiency: 65%
– Dimensions: 75x75x75 mm
– Unit weight 150 grams
Can’t believe its been almost a decade of since I found your work! God Speed Rossi!
Dear Andrea,
Here is my SKL guess:
electric power out 674 W
conversion efficiency 72%
dimensions 90 x 86 x 104 mm
weight 0.78 kg
Best Regards
Mats Heijkenskjold
Prof:
Note that the readings of the paper on Researchgate are about the same of
http://www.ecatskdemo.com
This make me suppose that who read the paper has also watched the video, both published in January 2019
Prof:
Unbelievable.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Here are the stats on Researchgate I found today consulting your paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Total Readings: 46 001 ( fortysix thousand one ) !
Recommendations: 2 107
Citations: 16
Total Research Interest Index: 633.1
…and counting !
Congratulations for this excellent achievement: the world is looking at your work and I am not surprised.
Prof
Steven N. Karels:
1. of course
2. yes
3. yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Readers,
Please go to
http://www.rossilivecat.com
to find comments published today in other posts of this blog,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Koen Vandewalle:
Thank you, data received.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
A prism, with a hexagon as base with the side measuring 50mm, and a height of 98mm.
The electrical power is 245 watts, on a total generated power of 333 watts, or 73.57% efficiency.
The units can be stacked vertically and laterally: vertically to couple the electrical power, and laterally to connect them mechanically. This configuration weighs 777 grams per unit. Forced cooling is not necessary because vertical stacking creates an upward airflow sufficient to cool the surface (four faces of the hexagonal prisms).
Each unit initially costs € 57, but larger batteries cost slightly more per unit due to the more precise tolerances.
Finally, the color is anodized aluminum.
Kind Regards,
Koen
Dear Andrea Rossi,
You indicate to date, a single Controller is needed to control a single eCat SKL.
1. Is the combined power consumption of the Controller and the eCat SKL less than the electrical output of the eCat SKL?
2. Is the power consumption of the Controller less than the power consumption of a single eCat SKL?
3. Is it your plan that a single Controller will be able to manage several eCat SKL units?
Gavino Mamia:
Thank you, data received,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Salve!
Un giorno mi dissi: immagina un cubo blu di 3×3 cm
Ed ecco la mia stima:
dimensions 3×3 cm
weight 100 gramms
efficiency 90%
power 250W
Steven N. Karels:
1. no, the weight of the controller , that is 80 grams, is not included in the quest
2. not yet
3. n.a.
4. n.a.
5. the data related to the Ecat SKL will be delivered at its presentation
6. n.a.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr R. Nicholson:
I do not understand.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ulrich Kranz:
Thank you for your data, record taken,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Anonymous:
Thank you, data taken,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi:
here is my estimation:
Power: peanuts
size: watermelon
efficiency: bananas
weight: 2 pees
Dear Andrea,
here is my estimation,
Power: 200 W
Size: 100 mm x 100 mm x 25 mm
Weight: 300 g
Conversion efficiency: 85%
best regards
Ulrich
Oh, I am very sorry to hear that.
Was hoping the opposite.
Best development in this direction.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
For the eCat SKL, with regards to the controller of the eCat SKL:
1. Does the mass specification (e.g., 100 grams) of the eCat SKL include the mass of the controller?
2. Can the Controller simultaneously manage more than one eCat SKL?
3. If so, what is the theoretical limit of the number of eCat SKLs one Controller can simultaneously manage?
4. What is the maximum number of eCat SKLs you have simultaneously managed with a single Controller to date?
5. What is the power consumption of a single Controller managing a single eCat SKL?
6. Does the Controller’s power consumption increase when additional eCat SKLs are simultaneously managed by the Controller? if so, by how much per eCat SKL?
Karl-Henrik Malmqvist:
Thank you, data received,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Italo R.:
I cannot answer, I only can say that all of them make sense.
Received also your data,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
1 none, we are well organized interacting with internet
2 yes
3 not yet
Warm Regards
A.R.
Lisa:
He,he,he,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Giannino Lodovico Ferro Casagrande:
Thank you, data received,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Potenza elettrica 100 Watt Efficienza di conversione del 50% , Dimensioni 100x100x100 , Peso in grammi 600 !!!
Dear Andrea:
I totally agree with your answer to the differently intelligent troll “Buck”
Lisa
Dear Andrea,
1. What effect has the solitude enforced by coronavirus had on your work?
2. Have you had success yet combining two SKLs to increase the overall power output?
3. Has anyone apart from you built a working SKL without you being physically present with them?
Thank you, and best wishes,
Frank Acland
Dear Dr Rossi.
(Off-topic) I came across this link: https://trailrunnermag.com/people/the-quarantine-backyard-ultra-was-the-race-we-deserve-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic.html describing a quite extrordinary event that might interest you.
B R Henrik
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you have already received the data imagined by many Readers on the characteristics of Ecat SKL.
I guess someone has given numbers too far from reality (in excess or in defect).
But may I ask if anyone has approached some real values in some way?
Anyway, here are my predictions:
power 220 W.
conversion efficiency 83%
dimensions 90 x 100 x 110 mm
weight 1.25 kg
Sincerely
Italo R.
Dear Andrea,
Here is my SKL guess:
electric power out 347 W
conversion efficiency 78%
dimensions 120 x 110 x 100 mm
weight 1.3 kg
Best Regards
Karl-Henrik Malmqvist
Heinz Sause:
Thank you, data taken,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hallo Dear Mr Andrea Rossi,
here is my guess:
power out 550 W
conversion efficiency 80%
dimensions 100 x 200 x 100 mm
weight 1.5 kg
“Finis Coronat Opus” ( The end crowns the work )
Good luck and stay well,
Yours Heinz Sause
Frank Acland:
I am continuing to work on Skype with all,
Warm Regards,
A.R.