Dear Andrea, Thank you for your response to my question regarding Clifford algebra and LENRs. From what I have understood the Clifford algebra is a necessary compilation with regards launching satellites into an intended orbit i.e. rotation of Earth and intended projector with regards intended orbit of the satellite. Maybe I have been misinformed but I have no knowledge regarding satellites or the placement of. Regards Eric Ashworth.
the following was posted anonymously at E-CatWorld.com. I thought you should be made aware of it given the title and quotes from the paper.
Also, given your response to the other papers offered over this past week, I am left with the impression that you are more than just pleased about the progress, that you have a strong sense of joy about all things seeming to fall into place as a very difficult puzzle solved. Certainly, my hope is that this is so.
“Extraction of clean and cheap energy from vacuum”
“Quantum theory predicts that the vacuum of space in the universe is filled with low-energy electromagnetic waves, random in phase and amplitude and propagating in all possible directions[1]. When integrated over all frequency modes up to the Planck frequency, fp (∼10^43Hz), this represents an enormous potential source of energy with a density of as much as ∼10^113J/m3 which is far in excess of any other known energy source.”
“A model of vortex dynamics based on the zero point energy, Casimir effect and torsion field with tip-effect and related nonlinear processes is proposed by Xingliu Jiang to account for the anomalies of the experimental phenomena. The combination of energy vortex or particle vortex rings with abruptly pulsed bucking electromagnetic field or turbulence fluid could result in the direct manifestation of energy and matter transformation.”
Do you envision something like a lightbulb or light fitting that also radiates heat and produces electricity that can top up say household battery storage?
With the E-Cat SK you had to use a grade 14 glass to observe the light, what grade of glass do you use to observe the E-Cat SKL?
On Power Engineering issue of July 14 2020:
EDF: “Storage, Piping and Ventilation Stage of Hinkley Point C Nuclear Project Creating 1,500 New Jobs”
Rod Walton
Eric Ashworth:
Thank you for your insight, but my experience is that the Clifford algebra allows simplifications that make possible to understand things faster. About the importance of the Clifford algebra you can also check the references to David Hestenes in the last page of http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, Regards July 11th 2020 your reply Gerard McEk. You mention the authors did not use the Clifford algebra using instead the normal algebra. You say, using the normal algebra as opposed to using the Clifford algebra makes them lose the view of the actual electrons matter but what is the actual electrons matter than expanded proton matter. I would like to know the difference according to Clifford algebra?. Yes I agree Dirac is correct with regards his intuition. To understand the zitterwebegung with that of the electron can be compared to putting an electric drill on the head of a bolt and drive it at high speed into a metallic nut and then imagine the bolt turning at the speed of light but moving forward at a lesser speed than that light. The concept of the zitterwebegung is simple but where does Clifford algebra come into a simple concept. I am not saying Clifford algebra is unnecessary but for me and many others I presume I think it is, unless it provides some deeper understanding in some area I am unfamiliar with. If so I would appreciate to know the area. For me LENRs is an artificial concept of nature whereby the energy of structure is released by using the EVO to obtain a gravity value that transforms a hydrogen atom of curvature force energy into a linear force i.e. a projectile so as to penetrate a structure and thereby release its energy in high velocity waves. The double slit experiment proves how light travels i.e. as a helical trajectory wave. Think of it as a piece of spaghetti in a helical trajectory moving forward as a complete unit of energy, one half goes through one slit the other half following goes through the other. Both slits accommodate the wave, no magic just a helical trajectory wave of corpuscular energy in motion. Regards Eric Ashworth.
Dear Andrea, It would be interesting to see if the common numbers for solar cell efficiency apply to the intensity of light available from the ballerina. She may surprise you. She is one hot mamacita!
Chuck Davis:
The efficiency of solar cells would be too low to make it worth, I’d like to get just light, so we could have electric power, heat and light.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Frank Acland If it is possible to extract light from the plasma it could be used to produce additional electricity via solar cells thereby increasing the overall COP!
Frank Acland:
You must make a distinction between the light that can be made indirectly by means of the electricity generated by the Ecat SKL and the light that is an unutilezed by-product of the plasma, that perhaps could be spoiled by means of the optic fibers. I still am not so sure it will be possible, as I said I am not expert of optic fibers, but some experiment with them maybe can be worth the time. We’ll see.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
If the E-Cat SKL is generating electricity with power produced by itself (which can be used for conventional lighting), what would be the benefit of extracting light from the plasma via fiberoptics?
Dr Rossi,
to use the optic fibers to diffuse the light out of the Ecat it should be simple: just put one end of the fibers inside the enlightened internal part of the Ecat and the external end will diffuse the light in the room outside it.
All the best,
Mina
Louie Hamburg:
Simply go to
Wikipedia Clifford Algebra, there you will also find a bibliography.
For specific application to Ecat issues:
“Maxwell-Dirac Theory and Occam’s Razor: Unified Field, Elementary Particles, and Nuclear Interactions”, by Andras Kovacs, Giorgio Vassallo, Antonino Oscar Di Tommaso, Francesco Celani, Dawei Wang ( Amazon )
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gerard McEk:
You are right, I was not aware of these papers, otherwise I would put them in the references.
These publications surely corroborate what I wrote on Researchgate. The main difference is that the the authors did not use the Clifford algebra, using instead the normal algebra: this wraps up their theoretical intuition in the fog of a complicated mathematical formalism that makes them lose the view of the actual electrons matter. Where we see the spiral movement of the electron, they see a space tortion. Closest to what I wrote is the Nobel lecture of Dirac, wherein he had the intuition of the zitterbewegung and of the fact that an electron, although a Fermion, can have vibrations at the speed of light, while his trajectory has a slower speed.
The sole thing your comment is wrong about is the point related to my tennis familiar confrontations.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Recent comments of Tonio and Pekka Janhunen referring to papers of the Aharonov-Bohm and Casimir effects seem confirming your ResearchGate publication. Apparently you weren’t aware of these, otherwise you would have referred them in your paper. Do these papers just confirm of what you have found or do they give you and your team a better understanding of everything you are seeing? It all looks very promising now.
I’m sure you will win this time the tennis game with your wife!
Kind regards, Gerard
When I followed backward the reference chain of the Anastasovski et al. (2002) paper, I noticed a paper Cole and Puthoff, Extracting energy and heat from the vacuum, Phys. Rev., 1993, http://calphysics.org/articles/CP93.pdf . Its abstract reads:
“Relatively recent proposals have been made in the literature for extracting energy and heat from electromagnetic zero-point radiation via the use of the Casimir force. The basic thermodynamics involved in these proposals is analyzed and clarified here, with the conclusion that, yes, in principle, these proposals are correct. Technological considerations for actual application and use are not examined here, however.”
The paper was published in a prestigious journal and according to Google Scholar has gathered 138 references since 1993.
Tonio:
Thank you for this superlative reference: I read it right now and discovered that many years ago a team of prestigious scientists discovered what I theorized in my paper http://www.esearchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
which is that along the theory of Aharonov-Bohm it is possible to get energy from a decrease of entropy. This publication is very encouraging to me.
I ignored it, so your comment has been very precious.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I think that some theories proposed in this paper, somewhat in agreement to those of your preprint on researchgate, could be useful to understand the very origin of the E-Cat energy source.
Saluti
“Aharonov-Bohm effect as the basis of electromagnetic energy inherent in the vacuum”
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1023985620088
From this paper
“Therefore devices can be manufactured in principle to take an un-
limited amount of electromagnetic energy from the vacuum as defined
by the Aharonov-Bohm effect, without violating Noethers Theorem.”
A Level 5 (full automation) autonomous vehicle may employ hundreds of millions of lines of code and more than 1 TB of storage and trillions of operations per second for its driving platform. Even a Level 2 or 3 “narrow” AI may require the driver’s continuous attention yet may operate at trillions of operations per second.
Assuming the AI for the SKL is fully autonomous:
1. Would your AI experts consider your machine learning system controlling the SKL: a) a “reactive machine” or does it employ: b) a “limited memory” so that it learns from its experience?
2. If it learns, are inputs limited to: a) controlling its own operation, or is its architecture configured more openly to: b) include other parameters (e.g. ganging together more than one SKL, connections to the grid, etc.)
Aleksei Savchenko:
Thank you for your insight ( he,he,he…I know you expected it ).
Sorry, but I cannot answer in positive or in negative to your intelligent comment. My answers’ freedom degrees end where the binds of the IP begin.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Thank you very much for your answers to my yesterdays questions. But I am not fully satisfied with your last answer “No”.
The matter is that almost any transformation of energy obeys the Lenz rule: “If an external influence is exerted on the system, then forces appear in the system that impede this influence”. This is a law of nature. Inertia forces, self-induction EMF and so on, even any electromagnetic oscilation circuit work on it. Therefore, the more we concentrate the energy in a unit volume per unit time, the stronger the reaction of the system will be and, according to the Lenz rule, the more transformation of thermal energy into electrical energy occurs. The only possible exception is, if you used the resonance phenomenon. Since everything is quantized in the microworld – energy levels of the nucleus, electrons of atoms and molecules, then by catching the right frequency you can get the desired effect. But looking through your publications you don’t use it yet, this is the next stage of your developments. As for generating excess of energy, some of which you transform into electricity, then the approach is similar, and it’s partially described in my article that you kindly posted on the JoNP website. Thank you for that. Nevertheless, I am grateful for your courageous answers and wish you and your Team every success.
Best regards,
Aleksei
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I have read the following news:
https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/2020/07/14/biden-annuncia-un-piano-da-2000-miliardi-per-lenergia-pulita-entro-2035_842ccbd5-a288-4389- 9853-cc2d52a11c38.html
Sincerely,
Italo R.
Mason:
Very interesting.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eric Ashworth:
As a matter of fact, when using the Clifford algebra I was well grounded on the Earth…and I am not alone !
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, Thank you for your response to my question regarding Clifford algebra and LENRs. From what I have understood the Clifford algebra is a necessary compilation with regards launching satellites into an intended orbit i.e. rotation of Earth and intended projector with regards intended orbit of the satellite. Maybe I have been misinformed but I have no knowledge regarding satellites or the placement of. Regards Eric Ashworth.
Dear Andrea,
the following was posted anonymously at E-CatWorld.com. I thought you should be made aware of it given the title and quotes from the paper.
Also, given your response to the other papers offered over this past week, I am left with the impression that you are more than just pleased about the progress, that you have a strong sense of joy about all things seeming to fall into place as a very difficult puzzle solved. Certainly, my hope is that this is so.
My best wishes to you, your team, and your wife.
Sincerely & Respectfully,
Mason
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Link>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6893712
“Extraction of clean and cheap energy from vacuum”
“Quantum theory predicts that the vacuum of space in the universe is filled with low-energy electromagnetic waves, random in phase and amplitude and propagating in all possible directions[1]. When integrated over all frequency modes up to the Planck frequency, fp (∼10^43Hz), this represents an enormous potential source of energy with a density of as much as ∼10^113J/m3 which is far in excess of any other known energy source.”
“A model of vortex dynamics based on the zero point energy, Casimir effect and torsion field with tip-effect and related nonlinear processes is proposed by Xingliu Jiang to account for the anomalies of the experimental phenomena. The combination of energy vortex or particle vortex rings with abruptly pulsed bucking electromagnetic field or turbulence fluid could result in the direct manifestation of energy and matter transformation.”
KeithT:
1- No
2- Sorry, this information is confidential.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
“electric power, heat and light”
Do you envision something like a lightbulb or light fitting that also radiates heat and produces electricity that can top up say household battery storage?
With the E-Cat SK you had to use a grade 14 glass to observe the light, what grade of glass do you use to observe the E-Cat SKL?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Rod Walton:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
On Power Engineering issue of July 14 2020:
EDF: “Storage, Piping and Ventilation Stage of Hinkley Point C Nuclear Project Creating 1,500 New Jobs”
Rod Walton
Chuck Davis:
We did, but the efficiency is very low. It is not worth.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eric Ashworth:
Thank you for your insight, but my experience is that the Clifford algebra allows simplifications that make possible to understand things faster. About the importance of the Clifford algebra you can also check the references to David Hestenes in the last page of
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, Regards July 11th 2020 your reply Gerard McEk. You mention the authors did not use the Clifford algebra using instead the normal algebra. You say, using the normal algebra as opposed to using the Clifford algebra makes them lose the view of the actual electrons matter but what is the actual electrons matter than expanded proton matter. I would like to know the difference according to Clifford algebra?. Yes I agree Dirac is correct with regards his intuition. To understand the zitterwebegung with that of the electron can be compared to putting an electric drill on the head of a bolt and drive it at high speed into a metallic nut and then imagine the bolt turning at the speed of light but moving forward at a lesser speed than that light. The concept of the zitterwebegung is simple but where does Clifford algebra come into a simple concept. I am not saying Clifford algebra is unnecessary but for me and many others I presume I think it is, unless it provides some deeper understanding in some area I am unfamiliar with. If so I would appreciate to know the area. For me LENRs is an artificial concept of nature whereby the energy of structure is released by using the EVO to obtain a gravity value that transforms a hydrogen atom of curvature force energy into a linear force i.e. a projectile so as to penetrate a structure and thereby release its energy in high velocity waves. The double slit experiment proves how light travels i.e. as a helical trajectory wave. Think of it as a piece of spaghetti in a helical trajectory moving forward as a complete unit of energy, one half goes through one slit the other half following goes through the other. Both slits accommodate the wave, no magic just a helical trajectory wave of corpuscular energy in motion. Regards Eric Ashworth.
Dear Andrea, It would be interesting to see if the common numbers for solar cell efficiency apply to the intensity of light available from the ballerina. She may surprise you. She is one hot mamacita!
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Chuck Davis:
The efficiency of solar cells would be too low to make it worth, I’d like to get just light, so we could have electric power, heat and light.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Frank Acland If it is possible to extract light from the plasma it could be used to produce additional electricity via solar cells thereby increasing the overall COP!
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Frank Acland:
You must make a distinction between the light that can be made indirectly by means of the electricity generated by the Ecat SKL and the light that is an unutilezed by-product of the plasma, that perhaps could be spoiled by means of the optic fibers. I still am not so sure it will be possible, as I said I am not expert of optic fibers, but some experiment with them maybe can be worth the time. We’ll see.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
If the E-Cat SKL is generating electricity with power produced by itself (which can be used for conventional lighting), what would be the benefit of extracting light from the plasma via fiberoptics?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Ken Williamd:
It should be.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Readers:
Please go to
http://www.rossilivecat.com
to find comments published today in other posts of this blog,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mina Young:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
to use the optic fibers to diffuse the light out of the Ecat it should be simple: just put one end of the fibers inside the enlightened internal part of the Ecat and the external end will diffuse the light in the room outside it.
All the best,
Mina
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Is the Ecat SKL more efficient than the Ecat SK to produce heat ?
Thank you if you can answer,
Ken
Louie Hamburg:
Simply go to
Wikipedia Clifford Algebra, there you will also find a bibliography.
For specific application to Ecat issues:
“Maxwell-Dirac Theory and Occam’s Razor: Unified Field, Elementary Particles, and Nuclear Interactions”, by Andras Kovacs, Giorgio Vassallo, Antonino Oscar Di Tommaso, Francesco Celani, Dawei Wang ( Amazon )
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi:
where can I find the basics of the Clifford algebra ?
Gerard McEk:
You are right, I was not aware of these papers, otherwise I would put them in the references.
These publications surely corroborate what I wrote on Researchgate. The main difference is that the the authors did not use the Clifford algebra, using instead the normal algebra: this wraps up their theoretical intuition in the fog of a complicated mathematical formalism that makes them lose the view of the actual electrons matter. Where we see the spiral movement of the electron, they see a space tortion. Closest to what I wrote is the Nobel lecture of Dirac, wherein he had the intuition of the zitterbewegung and of the fact that an electron, although a Fermion, can have vibrations at the speed of light, while his trajectory has a slower speed.
The sole thing your comment is wrong about is the point related to my tennis familiar confrontations.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Recent comments of Tonio and Pekka Janhunen referring to papers of the Aharonov-Bohm and Casimir effects seem confirming your ResearchGate publication. Apparently you weren’t aware of these, otherwise you would have referred them in your paper. Do these papers just confirm of what you have found or do they give you and your team a better understanding of everything you are seeing? It all looks very promising now.
I’m sure you will win this time the tennis game with your wife!
Kind regards, Gerard
Pekka Janhunen:
Thank you, this is another gold nugget ( from 1993 ! ): another anticipation – 26 years before – of what I wrote, to justify the effect of the Ecats, in my paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
and also this publication made by mainstream scientists.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
When I followed backward the reference chain of the Anastasovski et al. (2002) paper, I noticed a paper Cole and Puthoff, Extracting energy and heat from the vacuum, Phys. Rev., 1993, http://calphysics.org/articles/CP93.pdf . Its abstract reads:
“Relatively recent proposals have been made in the literature for extracting energy and heat from electromagnetic zero-point radiation via the use of the Casimir force. The basic thermodynamics involved in these proposals is analyzed and clarified here, with the conclusion that, yes, in principle, these proposals are correct. Technological considerations for actual application and use are not examined here, however.”
The paper was published in a prestigious journal and according to Google Scholar has gathered 138 references since 1993.
Recurrent regards, /pekka
Lisa Wainer:
Yes, it has been a surprising gift , due to the importance of the authors and the concerns they belong to.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
I agree with your answer to the magnificent comment of Tonio
All the best,
Lisa
Sam:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
This is a link to ECat World
thread about mining ECat Plasma.
https://e-catworld.com/2020/07/07/mining-the-e-cats-plasma/
Regards
Sam
Tonio:
Thank you for this superlative reference: I read it right now and discovered that many years ago a team of prestigious scientists discovered what I theorized in my paper
http://www.esearchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
which is that along the theory of Aharonov-Bohm it is possible to get energy from a decrease of entropy. This publication is very encouraging to me.
I ignored it, so your comment has been very precious.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I think that some theories proposed in this paper, somewhat in agreement to those of your preprint on researchgate, could be useful to understand the very origin of the E-Cat energy source.
Saluti
“Aharonov-Bohm effect as the basis of electromagnetic energy inherent in the vacuum”
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1023985620088
From this paper
“Therefore devices can be manufactured in principle to take an un-
limited amount of electromagnetic energy from the vacuum as defined
by the Aharonov-Bohm effect, without violating Noethers Theorem.”
Gregory Daigle:
I am not yet ready to answer these questions; you made good points, though !
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Roberto Ridolfi:
Yes. Today we made one very important.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Claudio Monti:
Sorry to disappoint you.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
A Level 5 (full automation) autonomous vehicle may employ hundreds of millions of lines of code and more than 1 TB of storage and trillions of operations per second for its driving platform. Even a Level 2 or 3 “narrow” AI may require the driver’s continuous attention yet may operate at trillions of operations per second.
Assuming the AI for the SKL is fully autonomous:
1. Would your AI experts consider your machine learning system controlling the SKL: a) a “reactive machine” or does it employ: b) a “limited memory” so that it learns from its experience?
2. If it learns, are inputs limited to: a) controlling its own operation, or is its architecture configured more openly to: b) include other parameters (e.g. ganging together more than one SKL, connections to the grid, etc.)
Buongiorno Dr Rossi, e dopo 10 anni siamo ancora qui a chiederci quando si vedrà qualcosa di concreto.
Sto perdendo ogni speranza. Cordialità.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Are the tests on Skype with your potential Partners continuing ?
All the best,
Roberto
Jack:
I’d like to get more information about this fact. I am not expert of it.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
The light could be extracted from the Ecat by means of optic fibers
Jack
Giuseppe:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
a fully autonomous drive car with an E-Cat powering it bring us directly to the future:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-extremely-confident-tesla-183002004.html
Regards, Giuseppe
Aleksei Savchenko:
Thank you for your insight ( he,he,he…I know you expected it ).
Sorry, but I cannot answer in positive or in negative to your intelligent comment. My answers’ freedom degrees end where the binds of the IP begin.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Thank you very much for your answers to my yesterdays questions. But I am not fully satisfied with your last answer “No”.
The matter is that almost any transformation of energy obeys the Lenz rule: “If an external influence is exerted on the system, then forces appear in the system that impede this influence”. This is a law of nature. Inertia forces, self-induction EMF and so on, even any electromagnetic oscilation circuit work on it. Therefore, the more we concentrate the energy in a unit volume per unit time, the stronger the reaction of the system will be and, according to the Lenz rule, the more transformation of thermal energy into electrical energy occurs. The only possible exception is, if you used the resonance phenomenon. Since everything is quantized in the microworld – energy levels of the nucleus, electrons of atoms and molecules, then by catching the right frequency you can get the desired effect. But looking through your publications you don’t use it yet, this is the next stage of your developments. As for generating excess of energy, some of which you transform into electricity, then the approach is similar, and it’s partially described in my article that you kindly posted on the JoNP website. Thank you for that. Nevertheless, I am grateful for your courageous answers and wish you and your Team every success.
Best regards,
Aleksei
Anonymous, Yes, but take the residual light out of the Ecat is a problem.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
From what I read on
http://www.researchgate.net/publication_330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
and what I saw in
http://www.ecatskdemo.com
I understand that from the Ecat SKL you can get also light, besides electricity and heat, am I correct ?
Bedric Smetana:
Not yet.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof:
Yes, the stats are really stunning. Thanks for your attention to our work,
Warm Regards,
A.R.