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  • Andrea Rossi

    Physicist:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Physicist

    Dr Rossi,
    a synthesis of your theoretical system published on
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    could be this: the Ecat SK works on the base of a synergy between three effects, the first one being the possible role of the Casimir force in dense electrons aggregates, based on zitterbewegung electron models, the second is based on the Norman Cook idea of magnetic origin of strong force and deals with the Lorentz forces in coherent systems, where the electron ZBW phases are synchronized and electron charges are in the same light cone, the third is based on the electrostatic effect of virtual particles and their antiparticles by the fluctuations of quantum vacuum. Correct ?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    I take advice of your warning. The cases are two: either the person who used your identity is an idiot, or he is an omonimous of yours. The comment was not stupid, though, so I think he is an omonimous. I will stay alert to protect your identity and I told to our IT guy to investigate the real source of that email.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi
    The question below was not asked by me. Someone has used my identity for reasons I don’t know.
    Best regards
    Raffaele

    in terms of the Aharonov-Bohm effect, You need to help me:

    Where in Your ecat is the necessary magnetic potential, which the Aharonov-Bohm requires to be existent?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Enea Romagnoli:
    Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team !
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    KeithT:
    Thank oyu for your insight.
    I am not able to answer your question,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    Within your ResearchGate paper, for a situation where two electrons are aligned to each other (parallel aligned “plates”), you describe the possibility that electrons can position at a close distance by means of the Casimir effect force and or Lorentz force, with forces balancing the electrons Coulomb repulsion at a distance of less than 2 Pico metre.

    If there was a situation where a number of electrons in a cluster were forced to became spin aligned, and due to an interaction effect a compact electron condensate was formed, and if this electron condensate formed around a single hydrogen atom, there is the possibility that the spin of the electron attendant to the hydrogens proton will become aligned with the surrounding electrons, for this situation, most of the surrounding electrons will have spin axis’s aligned parallel to the protons attendant electron, but at the spin north and south polar positions of the hydrogen atom, there is likely to be a number of electrons that have spin axis’s close to alignment with the protons attendant electron spin axis.

    Where electrons are clustered around a hydrogen atom and some polar positioned electrons become axially spin aligned to the hydrogen atom, is there a possibility that by means of the Casimir effect force and or Lorentz force, with forces balancing the hydrogen-electron Coulomb repulsion, a hydrogen atom and electrons in spin polar positions can now position in a chain at close Pico metric distances with overlapping electromagnetic influences and the electron charges Zitterbewegung phases synchronized?

    Regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  • Enea Romagnoli

    Caro Andrea
    Per rallegrare le tue meritate ferie, ecco un mio pensiero.
    Da quando hai pubblicato:
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    non riesco a correlare con immagini della mente i 4 fenomeni che descrivi.
    Fino ad oggi siamo stati abituati a visualizzare i fenomeni fisici in due maniere, o collegati allo spazio occupato dal nucleo dell’atomo o dallo spazio tra atomo e atomo dove avvengono una miriade di fenomeni chimici ed elettromagnetici.
    Con la tua pubblicazione oggi tu ci stai insegnando a rivolgere la nostra attenzione a quello spazio di dimensioni molto estese che si trova tra il nucleo dell’atomo e i suoi orbitali elettronici.
    E poi ci hai fatto capire che c’è un meraviglioso giocattolo che si sposta in questo luogo: un lunghissimo trenino fatto di elettroni che trasporta un protone su ogni vagoncino e che fa tappa su due stazioni, chiamate elettrodi, dove i passeggeri scendono e salgono trasformandosi in energia elettrica. Ma questo spazio ha dimensioni grandissime! Perché solo due stazioni, possiamo piazzarne cinque mila!
    Saluti
    Enea

    Dear Andrea
    To cheer up your well-deserved holidays, here is my thought.
    Since you published:
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    I cannot relate the 4 phenomena you describe with images of the mind.
    Up to now we have been accustomed to visualize physical phenomena in two ways, either connected to the space occupied by the nucleus of the atom or by the space between atom and atom where a myriad of chemical and electromagnetic phenomena take place.
    With your publication today you are teaching us to turn our attention to that very large space between the nucleus of the atom and its electronic orbitals.
    And then you made us understand that there is a wonderful toy that moves in this place: a very long little train made of electrons that carries a proton on each wagon and that stops at two stations, called electrodes, where passengers get off and on. turning into electricity. But this space has huge dimensions! Because only two stations, we can place five thousand!
    Regards
    Enea

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thank you for forwarding the question from a Reader of E-Cat World.
    The answer is: no.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    The magnetic fields are contingent with the electric fields and the Aharonov-Bohm effect affects the operation of the Ecat SKL as explained on
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    As the title of the paper says: the Aharonov Bohm effect is at the base of the long range particle interactions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    in terms of the Aharonov-Bohm effect, You need to help me:

    Where in Your ecat is the necessary magnetic potential, which the Aharonov-Bohm requires to be existent?
    Best regards
    Raffaele

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I am passing along to you a question that was sent to me by a reader of E-Cat World:

    “Are the multitude of wires used to minimize the skin effect due to the high frequency ion acoustic waves coming from the plasma ball? The result being a reduction in resistance and greater net electrical extraction?”

    Best regards,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    If I have understood what you mean, your comment is not absurd, but introduces the space-time Clifford algebra, showing that only one fundamental physical entity can describe the origin of electromagnetic fields, charges, and currents and energy-mass: the “electromagnetic four potential, that should not be viewed only as a mathematical tool, but as a real physical entity , as suggested by the Aharonov-Bohm effect.
    I strongly suggest you to read
    “Maxwell-Dirac Theory and Occam’s Razor: Unified Field, Elementary Particles, and Nuclear Interactions”, Giorgio Vassallo, Andràs Kovàcs, Antonino Kevacs Di Tommaso, Francesco Celani, Dawei Wang- pp 7-29; Published by Amazon USA 2019
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi
    I learned from following you that the electron moves around the nucleus with a “tremor” orthogonal to its path. If I understood correctly, this tremor would have the speed of light.

    In order to respect the theory of relativity, is it possible to consider this tremor as being a tremor of its charge only without displacement of its mass?

    I remind you that I am not an atomiste physicist, my question may be absurd.
    Best regards
    Raffaele

  • Andrea Rossi

    Physicist:
    As it has been explained on
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    the presence of this peak in the Ecat plasma spectrum is a possible indication of the existence of the fact that the electron’s charge can orbit around a proton at a distance around 0.38 picometers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Physicist

    Dr Rossi:
    Can you explain well why the peak with Lambda 4.372 x 10^-7 m we see on
    http://www.ecatskdemo.com
    is so important ?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rod:
    Thank you for your attention to the work of our Great Team,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Rod

    Dr Rossi:
    Congratulations for the stunning stats of your paper on Researchgate:
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    Rod

  • Yuri

    I too read
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    and I agree that to understand the actual work and way to do things of Rossi it is necessary to know the events described in this story.
    Yuri

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jack:
    No, I cannot. All our employees and consultants have a strict NDA with reciprocal restrictions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jack

    Dr Rossi:
    Can you tell us the names of your current consultants and main employees ?
    Thank you if you can answer,
    Jack

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jorge Alberto:
    The speed of an electron around the nucleus of an atom is 3000 km/s and it has nothing to do with the zitterbewegung: if you run from one point to another of a field, your speed does not change if you are trembling during the run or if you are not.
    Obiously, beyond these superficial models, the issue is more complex.
    I gave in my comment the reference of Dirac’s Nobel lecture about the distinction between speed and tremor (ZBW). The interested reader can see also “The zitterbewegung interpretation of quantum mechanics” by David Hestenes, on Foundation of Physics, 20(10):1213-1232, 1990
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    Thank you for the update, I could have never imagined anything like that.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Prof

    Dear Andrea:
    Your paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long:range_particle_interactions
    has reached 47 000 readings: this is the higher rate of the last two years among the 15 millions of publications on Researchgate.
    Congratulations,
    Prof

  • Jorge Alberto

    Dr Rossi

    Sorry to use the Google translator. I understand little about physics, so my doubt. In his analogy of the ball representing the electron, if in addition to the movement in its direction it still makes the movements to the left and right, soon its trajectory will be longer than if it did not shake. doesn’t that imply a higher final speed? I appreciate your patience.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ian Walker:
    I am aware of the NASA experiment, I read both their patent applications ( the theoretical and the experimental ) that are finalized to completely different tasks with a system that consumes more energy by an order of magnitude respect the energy obtained. It has a high rate of ionizing radiation and has nothing to do, obviously, with what I am doing. Just compare their ( very interesting ) paper with my
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    and you will understand that it has nothing to do. By the way, they aim to the production of isotopes, which is coherent with the energy costs, and the ratio costs vs revenues makes sense; there is a hypothesis about a utilization in space as a power source, which is a possibility considering that in space have been utilized plutonium powered thermoelectric devices, with efficiencies around the 5%, but, obviously, in the space the situations are completely different and the cost of energy is not an issue. This has noting to do with LENR, even if some astute vendor is trying, to raise funding, to strumentalise this excellent work of NASA ( with which he has nothing to do ).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Ian Glen Walker

    In relation to this article about this article in Spectrum the IEEE publication referring to updates of NASA’s latest Lattice Confinement Fusion research and experiments.
    https://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/nuclear/nuclear-fusiontokamak-not-included

    One thing it reveals is the need to push hydrogen into the host material to the point when hydrogen embrittlement is turning the fuel source to a powder. Is this what you do with your Fuel to achieve usable fuel Dr. Rossi?

    MFMP may wish to examine fuel the NASA Fuel method that is taken to these extremes. Which I have never seen them do.

    NASA are then using Electron beams to Excite Hydrogen Doped metal fuel. Something I suggested might be a dangerous possibility several years back warning that such experiments needed to be conducted at a safe distance from the public. And with only small amounts of potential fuel.

    Kind Regards Ian Walker

  • Andrea Rossi

    KeithT:
    The heat emitted from the Ecat SKL is less than the heat emitted from gas or Diesel engines and can be dissipated by a normal radiator and normal air inlets.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    Many people have indicted the desire to have an E-Cat powered motor vehicle, the main problem apart from power to weight ratio and dissipation / utilisation of any heat, would be certification for road use in Europe and the USA, this certification likely taking a decade. Possibly a parallel step would be to develop smaller power packs for bicycles, as the power pack would be smaller and the bicycle would travel at lower road speeds, the certification may be easier, certification of bicycles for roads helping towards certification of motor vehicles.

    It is likely that the near term potential market for electric bikes is greater than that for electric motor vehicles, many countries do not have the extensive road networks of Europe and the USA, areas like South America, Africa, Middle East, India, and Asia would greatly benefit from electric bicycles that were off-road capable and did not require repetitive recharging.

    Possibly governments would favour early certification of electric bicycles if they were seen to be competitive and convenient against motor vehicles and likely to displace vehicles from overcrowded road systems.

    Regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  • Judy

    @Roberto:
    I totally agree with you about reading
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    Cheers
    Judy

  • Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stephen:
    Right !
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Roberto

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I suggest to all your readers to read
    http://www.ingandrearossi.com
    to understand how resilient and miraculous has been your invention of the Ecat.
    Godspeed,

  • Stephen

    Actually a better more expressive name for that song might be just “ Roar “ With the rest just in brackets.

  • Stephen

    Dear Andrea

    Thanks for your reply to my question. I can see your point though at these scales a lot of factors can come into play and maybe simple classical interpretations although illustrative don’t capture the whole picture. It’s nice to think about though.

    On a separate point I’ve just seen a cool way for you to demonstrate your device and at the same time give a nod to Tesla…

    I really want one of these for my garden but I’m not sure my wife would be too happy about it 😉

    https://nerdist.com/article/africa-toto-played-by-tesla-coils/

    Imagine an orchestra of these powered. By high voltage e-cats!!!!

    Maybe Thomas Florek can write something for it.

    It could be called “The End Realizes the Dream” or something like that 😉

    Thanks

    Stephen.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stephen:
    It is very difficult to be sure of the cerrectness of my answer, but I propend more toward the second configuration. This also derivates from the experiments we are doing with the Ecat SKL.
    But I could be wrong and different configurations could be possible. I don’t think the configuration described in 1 is right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steve Caponnetto:
    Thank you for your attention to the work of our team,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rod Walton:
    Thank you for the update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Stephen

    Dear Andrea

    May I ask I something about the cluster. In particular it’s construct with ions and electrons.

    Do you visualize this as::
    1. a central cluster of a large number of ions surrounded by a ring, sphere or cloud of electrons
    2. More of a tube ie a tube or ring of ions each surrounded by a set of electrons.

    I suspect it’s 2 given your reference to Holmlid and how the pico aggregates of hydrogen are described there. But I’m not fully sure.

    I think it is important as I suppose the potential of the cluster is different in these 2 cases. The first more centralized the second more distributed.

    Best Regards

    Stephen.

  • Rod Walton

    On Power Engineering issue of August 11 2020:
    “Nuclear fuel canisters all stored at decommissioned San Onofre nuclear station in California”
    Rod Walton

  • Steve Caponnetto

    Dear Andrea,
    I am taking advantage of the Summer holidays to review your presentation streamed in
    http://www.ecatskdemo.com
    I am realizing now, better than I did before, how much important it has been, also conjugating it with
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    I wish you to enjoy your present holidays,
    Steve

  • Andrea Rossi

    MIKE PHALEN
    Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonimous:
    I repeat what I wrote many times: the speed of light is not the vectorial speed of the electron: it is the speed of the vibration ( zitterbewegung ) of the electron. Let me propose you a model for dummies: if you have a ball with a vibrator inside and throw this ball from where you are to the face of Andrea Rossi ( I understand this is one of your secret dreams ), the ball will have a speed obtained by the ratio m/s related to the time in seconds that the ball will spend to reach my face after exiting from your hand AND the velocity of its vibrations from left to right and from right to left ( so to speak ) ortogonal to the direction of the ball from you to me, with me hoping your aim not to be so good. Obviously the vibrations speed is much higher of the speed propelled by your arm, unless you played the world series as a pitcher.
    This “zitterbewegung” speed has been discovered and discussed about in his Nobel price lecture by Dirac: see ref 7 on “Maxwell-Dirac Theory and Occam’s Razor: Unified Field, Elementary Particles, and Nuclear Interactions ( Francesco Celani, Antonino Oscar Di Tommaso, Giorgio Vassallo, Chapter 1, pag 29 – 2019- Amazon )
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Physicist:
    In the case in which we accept a model ZBW with a radius of 0.182pm there is no possibility to distinguish intrinsic momentum of the electron and spin and this implies the impossibility of bosonic electrons, but if we accept a model in which the radius of the ZBW is the double ( 0.38 pm ) this possibility cannot be excluded.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Physicist

    Dr Rossi,
    Do you think that bosonic electrons with spin = h can exist ?
    Physicist

  • Anonymous

    Mr Rossi
    About your answer to JW: what do you answer to the fact that electrons are fermions and cannot have the speed of light?

  • MIKE PHALEN

    Hi Dr. Rossi,

    Can you tell us if the design has started for the production E-cat that will be mass produced?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Olaf:
    Probably,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    I hope you are wrong,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    Thank you for your suggestion !
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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