United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

 

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  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    What you say is reasonable.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    I understand, thank you for your suggestions,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea,
    When I submitted my description of the Caesium discharge lamp I assembled back in the 1960s, the outer chamber was a material opaque to all visible photons except infra red. I therefore could not visualize the interior. But discovering the unexpected large amount of infra red when the plasma was subjected to a high wattage pulse of RF would make me believe a similar column, to your device, of visible energy was present.
    All the other criteria for producing excess energy was possibly provided by the free electrons donated by the low ionization potential of the Caesium atom, with the RF pulse somehow concentrating the free electrons into a reaction volume.
    Looking at the dancing column of visible photons when you presented your program in 2019, also indicated to me that other similarities between my lamp and your device were possible.
    I look forward to your next presentation with the hope that it will provide more hints about the physical functions of the device.
    Discovery regards.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    b
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Brokeeper:
    I never comment the work of our competitors, existent or just supposed as they might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stephen, thank you for your insight and the second comment with the link.
    I will think about that, but now I am grounded.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Stephen

    Dear Andrea

    I know at the moment you are stating grounded with your think for e-cat SKL.

    And think it’s good to take that approach. When we first get on a horse it’s best to first walk or trot rather than cubit a good kick and go straight to a flat out gallop!

    I couldn’t help finding this article interesting though. I guess Pekka will find it particularly I intriguing like me. it’s years away so maybe by then e-cat SKL will be a good match as the required electrical energy source.

    But the main reason I include it is as because the science of the effect is so interesting. It might be interesting to people here or on your team who are interested in the physics.

    I hope things are going well for the plans this September. Is it still looking good for achieving the third party test in this time frame and the concerns here about Covid are not getting too serious. Obviously safety needs to take precedence.

    Good luck with all

    Stephen.

  • Brokeeper

    Dear Andrea,

    As ardent followers and supporters of your and your team’s amazing contribution for the answers to our planet’s and societies challenges; to be honest, everyone enjoys some competition to maintain minimal costs and demands. Here is what may be your closest contender, out of several, to date:

    “Self-Charging Nano-Diamond Batteries” That Can Run an Electric Car For 90 Years? https://medium.com/@glennrocess/self-charging-nano-diamond-batteries-that-can-run-an-electric-car-for-90-years-57b0a9aa803a
    Note the negative reference to Cold Fusion.

    My question (if not premature) is, does Leonardo Corp and its partners have contingent business plans in place to meet or exceed consumer requirements if such advance technology soon exists?
    Here are some to consider: (pricing, power density and response, manufacturing production demands, cost and ease of fuel/replacement, public safety, reliability, domestic installation, adaptability to devices, climate locations including space, price for the less advantaged ….). Any reply would be appreciated.

    How is the testing of the latest version going?
    Thank you!
    With much respect,
    Brokeeper

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Can you share whether the third party test of the E-Cat SKL is:

    a) Still in the planning stages
    b) Scheduled but not yet started
    c) Already started

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea, There are plane parachutes available for small planes that would make it possible to integrate ecat propulsion. In the event of propulsion failure the parachute will permit safe landing and failure analysis to determine the exact cause of failure. This configuration will provide a safe configuration to enable the early integration of aeronautic ecat propulsion. Somebody said, “Where there is a will there is a way”!

    Warm regards,
    Chuck Davis

  • Dear Andrea,
    When a normal airplane crashes, the worst-case scenario is that the entire load of its fuel (kerosene) catches fire and burns in a big firestorm. I would be surprised if the E-cat can behave worse than that.

    Similar consideration applies to cars (tank full of gasoline, versus the E-cat). Any vehicle can crash, so the worst-case scenario is always a relevant question. Airplanes crash less frequently than cars, but both do crash.

    That said, my advice to you, if any, is to concentrate on the E-cat itself. Others will find proper applications for it, once you start selling them, with whatever conditions you choose to do it. Intel makes processors and Microsoft makes software that runs on them. Intel does not care so much what Microsoft and its users do. You are the most upstream producer in energy world, like Intel is in the world of IT.
    With best regards, /pekka

  • Bob Belovich

    Dear Andrea

    Do your recent comments saying that ECAT SKL is not readily suitable for use in aircraft mean that there are one or more issues with its crashworthiness?

    Is this a reason for your focus on stationary uses initially?

    I thank you and all the commenters (eernie1, Koen, physicist et al.) for your recent exchanges. The many viewpoints expressed are beneficial towards developing an understanding of what is an electron

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Imagine what could happen should an aircraft fueled by an Ecat fall, even if the Ecat should’nt be the cause of the fall…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Wilfried Babelotzky:
    Because should an aircraft fall for any reason, even not caused by the Ecat, we’d have terrific troubles.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ron:
    Thank you.
    Another very interesting paper dealing with long range particle interactions, is
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334679765_Magnetic_energy_superconductivity_and_dark_matter
    by Prof Hanno Essen.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Ron

    Dr Rossi:
    I agree with the introduction of
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    “The E-Cat technology poses a serious and interesting challenge to the conceptual foundations of modern physics. Particularly promising, for understanding this technology, is the exploration of long-range particle interactions”
    All the best,
    Ron

  • Dear Koen Vanderwalle,
    If you will pardon a little bit of humor, I think your model has a lot of holes in it.
    We are all hindered by the lack of capability to prove our models because of the difficulty to verify necessary facts about this subject, due to the inherent nature of it’s physical form, which we cannot absolutely measure.
    Your model is as good as any other because of this factor. Until science is capable of providing these measurements we all are in a sense compiling possible models based on our past observations of physical properties. If a device can be absolutely confirmed to be undeniably providing the energy gain, more effort would be expended in obtaining the underlying physics.
    Keep up your thinking, we all can use different views of this intriguing question.
    Hopeful regards.

  • Wilfried Babelotzky

    Dear Andrea,

    I don’t understand why you are so reserved about the use of the E-Cat SKL in aircraft. In an airplane with a battery, you can of course charge it with the E-Cat SKL during the flight to extend the range. What would be more dangerous about it than flying without the E-Cat SKL? Of course, flight operations should always be designed so that you can land safely with the remaining charge in the battery.

    OK, nobody have to expect that you have flight operations in focus from the start, but if you deliver the E-Cat SKL as a module, others could take care of certification for flight operations.

    Best wishes
    Wilfried

  • >Flying is not in the point of our spear, honestly. Too dangerous.

    Flying is generally considered to be the safest mode of transportation.
    r:/pekka

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Thank you for your insight, I think also the light ball you see on the video
    http://www.ecatskdemo.com
    can give information about your observations. You are saying interesting things.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Flying is not in the point of our spear, honestly. Too dangerous.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Italo R.

    Dr. Rossi,

    in Japan the flying electric car with driver on board has become a reality:

    https://www.money.it/Auto-volante-in-Giappone-test-drive-con-pilota-Video

    The limitation, as we can imagine, is in the flight range: the batteries on board run out too soon.

    What do you think of using one or more ecat SKL to power these batteries?

    Kind Regards,

    Italo R.

  • Dear Andrea,
    I forgot to mention another possible conversion of space potential energy. That is the existence of lightning fire balls. This observed phenomenon occurs after a large lightning bolt is observed with the subsequent appearance of a highly luminescent ball which travels through space for a significant time before it disappears.
    In my view this ball consists of energy created by the high density of free electrons existent in the lightning bolt which subsequently creates more energy conversion as the concentrated electrons travel towards a grounding source.
    The lightning bolt is a duplicate of your device created by nature.
    Striking regards.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    1- premature
    2- premature
    3- premature
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi
    A few years ago, you indicated that you would be able to make electric power very affordable. You were talking about an electric kWh at around $ 0.03.
    Over the years, your technology has evolved a lot and currently appears to be very close to commercialization.

    1-At this stage can you confirm 0.03 $ per Kwh?

    If not
    2-Should we expect, with the technology you are currently developing, at a higher cost per Kwh?
    3-Can you publish an approximate price?
    Best regards
    Raffaele

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Eernie1

    The nicest thing I had forgotten was: Gravity fits perfectly in this model, because it is the sum of all fluid that disappears in the collective of holes in a certain region with a lot of matter.

    Interested greetings,
    Koen

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Eernie1

    I read your comments and suggestions regarding the zero point energy with great interest.

    For the construction of the universe, I make the visual comparison with an inelastic fluid that disappears in miniscule holes.
    As it were, the reverse effect of your reasoning. These tiny holes then create all kinds of eddies and vortices that eventually form loops that whirl and shake.
    A large bathtub from which you suck water with a vacuum pump, and where cavitation vortices are formed. These vortices are like snakes that eat their own tail.
    Broadly speaking, you end up with three types of vortex, where two forms of “three-loop knots” and a “ring” are possible. Because each knot and ring is attached to its own miniature black hole, they cannot merge, but they can still be linked with their vortices and twists.
    Rings can get bigger or smaller. The “loops of the knots” can also become larger or smaller.
    In this way, all these small eddies form clusters that we call matter, but actually they are more moving cavities in the sea of ​​incompressible fluid.
    Now you can make those vortices move very quickly, decreasing their efficiency in resisting the disappearance of the fluid (in their own black hole), thereby having a greater influence on the vortices in their environment.
    They then operate like a mini-turbine that draws energy from the flow of the disappearing fluid in the black hole they are attached to.
    Any form of vortex instability causes more fluid to disappear into each hole, each turbine to gain energy, thus creating additional energy visible to us.
    Comparisons of this kind make it all very difficult to write this down in formulas and absolute statements, because it all gives interactions of highly mobile matter that interacts with other highly mobile matter and changes through the interaction itself into several of the derived and integrated functions .

    When Archimedes drained his bath, and saw the whirlpool at the drain, he must have also thought that he should stick to concepts he could explain.

    Interested greetings,
    Koen

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    Always interesting,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea.
    What I call dark energy is better described as potential EM energy, and is what remains from the initial large amount of potential energy that existed before the conversion into the particles that constitute our material universe. There is a substantial amount of potential energy remaining in our space vacuum and possibly available as useful energy if we can convert it.
    I think you are tapping into this source by creating a dense volume of free electrons in a confined space which provide energetic spinning magnetic fields that interact with the potential EM fields remaining in the space of your device thereby converting the potential energy into usable energy.
    Other methods could be the use of the electron in transition metals which contain highly volatile electrons which can be manipulated by external sources. Or electrons that can be manipulated by electro chemical means as done by the early experimenters.
    Good luck regards.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rod Walton:
    Thank you for the update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Rod Walton

    On Power Engineering issue of September 01 2020:
    Feds give approval to small modular 50 MW nuclear reactor design.
    Rod Walton

  • Andrea Rossi

    Kay:
    I do not think that there are substantial differences between the USA and Europe for what concerns the dialectic between R&D and business.
    We are open to collaborate with whomever wants us, wherever his location might be.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Physicist:
    Thank you for reading my paper,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Kay

    Dear Andrea,
    American realized in turning his dreams into real business.
    Europeans research without business.
    Could the American dream be combined with the European?
    Elon Musk has so many ideas that he lets others convert and he is making great progress with them.
    I think his dreams would go a little faster with those of the Ecat.
    And he has enough money, money, money too!

    Best regards K.

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,

    A person can only build a vision based on what he knows. One additional piece of information may create the need to turn 180 °. To war, or not to war? That’s the question!

    I know your view of open source, and I think at least all of your competitors and opponents share your strategic choices and are well prepared for them.

    Wellington knew very well that his troops were no match for the cannons of Napoleon’s army, and that he had no chance in Waterloo. Until he came up with the bright idea of ​​using that silly asymmetrical fold in the landscape to deploy his troops. All the cannonballs just flew over it, regaining the classic number strength and classic combat tactics that the amateur and folk army could not win against.

    What surprises me in a negative sense throughout history is that people are still throwing away plenty of subsidy money to build gigantic wind farms. It must be that a lot of people at a higher level do not do their homework, which gives me the impression that it will not have to come through the people at a higher level.

    Not to mention I am very curious about the further rollout of your plans, and I will be on the first line to implement it. Good luck and a big thank you for the tremendous achievements that you and your team have achieved with the potential to make a thriving world possible for our children and all subsequent generations.

    I have no doubt that you will succeed, but it would be more fun if your invention causes a second spectacular “big bang”, rather than a gradual introduction to the market of purely industrial applications.

    You deserve something with spectacle and recognition.

    With best regards,
    Koen

  • Physicist

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I too think that under the particular conditions you described in paragraph 2 of
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    it could be not impossible for electrons to form Bose-Einstein condensates.
    Best,
    Physicist

  • Andrea Rossi

    Giannino Lodovico Ferro Casagrande:
    I will forget nobody, but I did not say that I already found a marketing solution, I said we are working on it, and that probably we got a good idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ronald Stringer:
    Thank you for the information,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    open source would be the end of all. I explained many times why.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    For what it’s worth: why not throw the first or second generation E-Cat into the world via open source, which was already semi-publicly demonstrated in 2011?
    And, for example, offer schools a working model (with repair kit or reloading kit)?
    New minds must be shown the right path in time.

    That’s a business model that has already been proven when it comes to intellectual products.

    With best regards,
    Koen

  • Ronald Stringer

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    Someone just asked you about your jet engine project. I found this article today and hoped it might be of interest and use to you.

    Jet propulsion by microwave air plasma in the atmosphere.
    AIP Advances 10, 055002 (2020);
    https://aip.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/5.0005814

    If only someone had a source of electricity that could supply such a machine…

  • Giannino Lodovico Ferro Casagrande

    Caro Andrea , a Frank Acland spieghi che hai gia trovato la via che consentirà una rapida espansione degli E-CAT . Io come altri sono come molti nel Tuo archivio ordini gia da molti anni . Noi avremmo la precedenza per l’acquisizione degli E-CAT da 4kWh/h di energia elettrica e 1 kWh/h di energia termica ? Ti prego di spedirmene almeno uno il prima possibile ! Cordiali Saluti. giannino
    ENGLISH SYNOPSIS
    In your answer to Frank Acland you said you found the way to start sales: please do not forget all the persons that, like me, pre-ordered the Ecat

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eernie1:
    I am not sure the dark energy exists. What you write is interesting, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea,
    I noticed that a number of people are puzzled by the values given by theories about ZPE. The values vary from 10 t0 the power of 113 joules/cm and 10 to the power of -9 joules/cm. Both of these values in my opinion can be correct if we assume that space consists of potential EM energy of the larger value when undisturbed, and of the smaller number when converted to energy which forms and is stored in our material universe.
    The smaller number comes from measuring the Casimir force within the depleted residual space energy. The larger from the cosmological constant of Einstein. However I think the lower value is too small because the rest of the energy cannot be measured since it is still potential energy.
    We need to find a way to measure this potential dark energy.
    Good hunting regards.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    You are very kind, but we will proceed more realistically: humble, but aiming to a proliferation strong and safe. We got some good ideas.
    Let alone heores, we are strong workers, not heroes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Alessandro Coppi:
    Thank you for the suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Alessandro Coppi

    With regard to get fast expansion and the due power of fire on planetary scale, I see the model of business already operative by Elon Musk as the better as possible.
    The mobility area covered by Tesla, the space enterprise covered by Space x, Internet area covered by Star Link, artificial intelligence area covered by Neuralink.
    How good would be to add energy area covered by “Power Link” operated by E-CAT SKL controlled throug StarLink?
    Such a scenario is quite disturbing, concentrating such a control power over the mankind, in a single man, but as way to go would be perfect.

    Linked regards
    Alessandro Coppi

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea, I believe that those Countries that are not part of the oil mafia will be more receptive to the ecat and after deliveries increase in those countries and with the widespread publicity that follows the pressure to convert to ecats in the oil producing countries will become so great that they will no longer be able to resist! This year will mark the beginning of “The Rossi ERA”! A salute to Andrea Rossi, a REAL superhero!

    Warm regards’
    Chuck Davis

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