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  • Andrea Rossi

    Donald Chandler:
    Thank you for your insight: it is not a time-waster.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Christian

    Hello Mr Rossi,

    in your effect, do you use induction to harness electricity?

    Best regards,

    Christian

  • Donald G Chandler

    Dear Andrea

    Further to my recent comment, I note your succinct definition of energy:

    Energy = information density in the space-time

    Compare with Wolfram’s description:
    “By the way, it’s important to note that in our models the hypergraph isn’t something static—and it’s in the end knitted together only through actual update events that occur. And the energy of some region of the hypergraph is directly related to the amount of updating activity in that region (or, more accurately, to the flux of causal edges through that portion of spacelike hypersurfaces).”

    Maybe you will see parallel thinking here.

    Kind regards
    Donald Chandler

  • Steven N. Karels

    Andrea,

    Maybe some “Dilithium Crystals” (from an old Star Trek episode) that you use in the eCat-SKL? LOL

  • Donald G Chandler

    Dear Andrea

    Could I recommend to you this recent post by noted entrepreneur/mathematician/physicist Stephen Wolfram?
    https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2020/10/faster-than-light-in-our-model-of-physics-some-preliminary-thoughts/
    While the subject of faster than light travel may seem peripheral to your work, I’d suggest simply skim-reading Wolfram’s first few sections which review his highly alternative formulation of the universe as a graph computation. It will get more relevant as you come to the fourth section on “Negative Mass, Wormholes, etc”. By the third paragraph of that section, Wolfram is into the Casimir effect, screening of vacuum fluctuations, the Higgs, etc. And by the fifth paragraph, Wolfram makes this fascinating claim, “ By the way, our paper #1 computed Casimir effects for boxes of different shapes, and had the surprising implication that by changing shapes in a cycle it would in principle be possible to continuously “mine” energy from the vacuum. ” And here he references two of his papers from 1981. I have to admit it’s a bit above my head to connect this directly to your thoughts in Section 1 in your paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    but maybe you and your colleagues will see what I can not. I hope this is interesting to you and apologies if it is a time-waster.

    Kind regards
    Donald Chandler

  • Chuck Davis

    @ Willfried Babelotsky, I had a solar system on a previous residence where I made more electricity than I used and SDG&E paid me a small percentage of the rate that they charge for the excess electricity so if you are planning on making money on excess electricity from the ecat I suggest that you look very closely at the fine print about how this is handled by your utility.

    Warm regards,
    Chuck Davis

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stefen:
    1- directly to mass production
    2- what do you mean ?
    3- premature
    4- nothing is easy and quick. I am not able to answer
    5- same as 4
    6- specialozed skills are demanded
    7- you are asking numbers where integrals are necessary
    8- too early to answer
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    No,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Manuel Cilia:
    Thank you for the suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Dr Rossi
    I think the best way to get a product like yours into the market is to do something similar to Tesla EV’s and let people sell the product for you. Tesla does not advertise and the power of Word of Mouth has been multiplied now with the internet and such things as twitter, facebook etc. If people can see other people using the product and then rave about it because it works so well then people will seek you out. So my advise for what it is worth is to start with a small production line and get the Ecat out into the market and let customers sell it for you and then as demand ramps up then increase production, if the product is good then people will wait.

  • Aleksei Savchenko

    To Raffaelle Bongo, Steven N. Karels (questions of 19 October) and others, concerning the issue “where the energy is coming from” and “There were element transmutations in old Ecat-2012 versions”.

    Dear colleagues,
    Many similar above mentioned questions were addressed to Andrea Rossi in various forms.
    I took the courage to answer instead of him, summarizing, first of all, his numerous brief answers to these questions, as well as information in his articles. It is quite possible that my opinion does not coincide with his opinion, as, this is my free interpretation, nevertheless, it seems to me, it gives a general idea of ​​these processes.
    Naturally, everything is based on the law of conservation of energy and the interconnection of all processes in the Universe, a kind of Lenz’s rule – an effect on some part of it causes a natural response that reduces this interaction. Basically, the answers to these questions can be partly found in two my articles that he posted in his JoNP – one came out in August, the other is about to appear.

    Briefly all of these can be discribed in THREE STEPS:
    1. Energy impact on the medium Environment — ether, or more precisely, structured ether — Physical Vacuum (PV) by impact on the matter connected with him using various methods (Ni-H generators, plasma torches, cavitation etc) that will cause intensifying the oscillations of the PV’s energy lattice, compressing the lattice and increasing the PV’s energy density.
    Here we must take into account the quality of the acting energy and what quantized levels of PV energy it stimulates (arouses). Depending on this, the response from PV to matter will go mainly according to scenario 2 or scenario 3, or both at the same time.

    2. Response from PV on the matter leading to absorption and release of anti-neutrino by an electron during the change in PV density around him. Electron receives an impulse from anti-neutrino, like in beta decay — kinetic energy. It is only excess of heat energy, generated in old Ecat version. The Andrea Rossi go further and by imposing a field – magnetic or electric or something else – the chaotic motion of the electrons turn to a directional moving with the formation of a direct current. The degree of orderliness of the forced movement of electrons determines the quantitative ratio of the released electricity in relation to the released heat, 80/20 or 95/5 as in the latest version. The total energy of the anti-neutrino in the Universe decreases in this case.

    3. The additional response from PV on the matter leading to formation of super slow neutrons due to the k-capture by a hydrogen nuclei (this process is facilitated due to the weighting of the electron in the medium of a denser PV and, as a consequence, the approach of its orbit to the nucleus) and its further interaction with the nearby surrounding substance with the formation of new elements with possible release of additional heat energy. Due to neutrons low speed, cross-section capture of various nucleus considerably increases that leads to the easy formation of new elements.

    In the old Ecat version, scenario 3 was dominated, although excess heat was also generated in scenario 2. In the novel version, Andrea changed the the impact energy method on the PV, felt the resonance frequencies and, most importantly, managed to transform the chaotic motion of electrons into a directional one. These are all his technological aspects and KNOW-HOW

    This is my theoretical vision of the processes, how it really happens, Andrea Rossi knows better than me, at least experimentally. He already manage to generate electric current, and I, despite past successful developments, are still waiting for permission to start in this direction.

    Best regards,
    Aleksei
    P.S. By the way, you can find the necessary quantum leaps using a simple device. It has already been created, but I have not yet tested it, so I do not disclose its operating principles yet.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    In your effect, is there a mass conversion that releases energy?

  • Stephen

    Dear Andrea

    May I ask a few questions about production once you have the go ahead to start it?

    1. Will you start with a small production with one Pilot production line or move directly to large scale production?

    2 Do you already have an idea of what the production rate from a production line would be possible?

    3. If so could you give us an idea of the production rate per day from a single production line. Would it be 10s, 100s, 1000s or perhaps much more maybe millions?

    4. Would it be easy and quick to set up a production line for example a few months?

    5. Could multiple production lines also be easily angled quickly installed within a year?

    6. If I recall correctly not all processes are automated. So I wonder if the manual processes are time consuming and require specialized skills. And the impact if any if that in the production rate.

    7. If so is the necessary training difficult or can it be achieved already with currently skilled work force.

    If a significant percentage of the currently consumed power is someday to be generated by e-cat SKL’s It’s a mind boggling amount of e-cats?

    8. Is that amount of production possible in say 4, 5 or 10 years?

    I can see that targeting where it goes at the beginning is something important to consider.

    If it’s too early to answer these questions I understand. It would be interesting though to have some kind of handle of what is involved when considering these issues.

    I hope you find a way that captures people’s imaginations and inspires hope and resolution for all who see it.

    Thanks and best Regards as always to you and your team.

    Stephen

  • Andrea Rossi

    Wilfried Babelotzky:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Iggy Dalrymple:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    eernie1:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Thank you for your suggestions,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for your Q/A
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    I wish you should be right…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Lars:
    Thank you for the suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    In my effect there is no fusion.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    After a careful reading of your paper, I would understand that you are suggesting particles are fusing under the electron condensates.

    1. Is this a correct understanding?

    Are you suggesting the hydrogen fusion process is occurring — protium becoming deuterium becoming helium-3 and finally becoming helium-4?

    2. Is this also correct?

    Alternatively, are you suggesting that protium is fusing with some other nuclei in the eCat-SKL?

    3. Is this also correct?

  • Lars

    Dear Andrea,
    If you make a continuous live feed at YouTube and show something ‘impossible’ and spectacular I guess a lot of people will talk about it and see it.
    For example showing a small ecat skl powering something big.

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea, I think that once you have made your presentation of the ecat you won’t have to worry about finding customers, they will find you! Anyone would have to be pretty naive to not see the potential of ecat energy. In fact I think that you will have to start making your own gigafactory to keep up with the demand! Put on your seat belt, it’s going to be some ride!

    Warm regards,
    Chuck Davis

  • Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    Hmm, how to marked the e-cat on the internet.

    Here are two suggestions.

    I’d like to create a list of 50 more to work on.
    Dramatic ecosystem changes are possible by changing human behaviour:
    ==========================================
    Case Study #1: https://abcnews.go.com/International/venice-canals-clear-fish-coronavirus-halts-tourism-city/story?id=69662690… Use the E-Cat to clean up pollution!
    ==========================================
    Question #1: How can human behavior be changed using the E-Cat, and are dramatic ecosystem changes possible to synthasize?
    Answer #1: Convert a “continent of plastic” into new coral reefs, using power from e-cat power sources.
    ==========================================
    Question #2: Can E-Cat be promoted by creating powerful architecture?
    Answer #2: Convert more waste plastic into a monolythic talisman that competes with the pyramids.
    ==========================================

    Warm Regards,
    Tom

  • WaltC

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    With respect to your advertising brainstorm– If one of your initial customer products represents a “killer app” (an application that is exciting and can’t currently be done any other way) then you will very likely have more customer requests than you can handle.

    For instance, transportation–
    1) if one of your customers produced and sold a vehicle (car, truck or bus) that only needed recharge once every 6 to 12 months.

    Or, failing that–
    2) If you created a personal demonstration car by buying an electric car with 100+ mile range and having it modified to continually maintain a threshold battery charge level via an SKL. (And if the SKL failed for any reason, you could still drive it home on battery.)

    Or,
    3) Work with a well known car collector/customizer to do the same as (2). For example, Jay Leno has many unique, first production run and/or custom made cars. He might enjoy becoming an owner of one of the first two Rossi-effect demonstration cars that he personally helped produce.

    As they say, “the proof is in the pudding” (or the true worth of something can only be judged when it is put to its intended use); surely one of the key intended uses of the SKL will be in transportation because of the SKL’s inherent compactness and portability.

    Best Regards,
    WaltC.

  • Dear Andrea,
    Why are you looking for more customers? Without any advertising look how many pre-orders and interested parties you have? I think that just displaying your device would be enough to obtain more customers than you could handle. You should in my opinion, be thinking of methods for filling the requests for the device.
    Marketing regards.

  • Iggy Dalrymple

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    To publicize your new invention may I suggest an endurance run in an electric E-Cat powered vehicle from coast to coast?
    Best regards,
    Iggy Dalrymple

  • Wilfried Babelotzky

    Dear Andrea,

    I assume that all stationary e-cats will be connected to the internet. In doing so, they take part in the Internet of Things. Please inform yourself about the Tangle network IOTA and the MIOTA Coin. Messages can be securely exchanged between devices via IOTA. It will be part of autonomous driving. With MIOTA, microservices between the devices can be paid for. MIOTA will be the money of the devices and systems that work together over the Internet, for example Industry 4.0.
    My suggestion for marketing:
    Give away the E-Cats for free, in the order of the incoming orders.
    Every E-Cat contains an Internet interface that makes contact with an electricity exchange via the supply network.
    If energy is not consumed itself, but fed into the supply network, then the energy is sold at the respective exchange price. The great thing is that two thirds of the proceeds end up in your wallet and one third of the proceeds in the owner’s wallet. Regional taxes are deducted in advance so that the owner has a direct source of money (the E-Cat). So he receives three gifts. He receives the E-Cat as a device, he receives the energy for his own purposes, he earns money when he does not need the energy himself. And you as a manufacturer become an energy supply company that sells two thirds of the energy, 100% decentralized and environmentally friendly, on the market.
    Why is something so ingenious possible? – Because the E-Cat can supply energy so cheaply that everyone who has to do with it will get rich!

    Best regards
    Wilfried

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Good question. We are brainstorming about this issue. The choice of a correct advertising. To make things more complicated are the distorsions caused by the Covid 19.
    We have not decided yet, but internet will be the carrier.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    In your business strategy, how do you intend to get the attention of potential customers who might benefit from the E-Cat SKL?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for the suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    1- no
    2- It is the contrary: the E-Cat works with Protium, not with Deuterium: please read carefully the paragraph 4 of
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    and also the spectrum of the plasma in the video
    http://www.ecatskdemo.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Enea Romagnoli:
    What you have written does not contain “something real or commentable”, to cite you… They are not just lucubrations, though: they are your free interpretation of
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions.
    I’d suggest you to read carefully the paragraphs 2 and 3 of my paper: I think there is a specification of what the primary source of energy could be, along the hypothesis I have formulated, without presumption of rightness.See also references 11,12,13,14,1, 20, 23, 8 of the same paper.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rod Walton:
    Thank you for your update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Rod Walton

    On the Power Engineering issue of October 20 2020:
    Orlando Utilities Vowing closure of Coal-Fired Units Within Seven Years.
    Rod Walton

  • Enea Romagnoli

    Dear Andrea
    Hypothesis on the time-life of the clusters of electrons on coherence of phase.
    In the long chain of events leading to the production of an electric current, we consider the moment in which the clusters of electrons on coherence of phase are formed, it is the moment in which the electrons release a part of their zero point energy.
    These clusters will then be in a lower and more stable energy state.
    To allow the E-Cat SKL reaction to continue over time these clusters should no longer interfere.
    After this simplistic exposition some questions arise:
    1 Where these clusters are spatially positioned
    2 With which interaction they will reabsorb energy to return to the initial state
    3 How and after how long will they intervene in the end-of-life phenomenon of the E-Cat SKL reaction
    If something of what I have just written contains something real and commentable, can you give your improvement (in my heart I hope they are not just lucubrations!)
    Regards
    Enea

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    1- Do you believe the source of the energy in the eCat-SKL could be the disassociation of neutrons in the fuel into protons and electrons caused by the electron condensates?

    I am trying to understand where the energy is coming from.

    My simple math suggest the disassociation of a neutron into a proton-electron pair will release the mass equivalent of 0.000839 amu of energy.

    2- If this is true (probably it is not), then the natural hydrogen fuel would exhaust when the deuterium amount approaches zero.

    If this guess were true, then the eCat-SKL would not function with pure hydrogen (no deuterium). Have you run the eCat-SKL on pure hydrogen (no Deuterium)?

  • Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    If the AI fails, do you apply an automatic shutdown to the specific component? This could result in saving other “sections” or “components” of the power unit. The continuation of production of power for the remaining could continue, if you are able to isolate failed sections.

    Thank you for your diligent work. I hope that I might gaze upon it during my time of life.

    Warm Regards,
    Tom

    (I suspect you already are aware of this need, but we just try to offer constructive comments when they possibly could assist.)

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    I cannot extend so far what I already have disclosed in
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interaction
    and shown in the video on
    http://www.ecatskdemo.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    arjen:
    Thank you for your insight and for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • arjen

    Dear Rossi

    I am curious what compelling arguments prevents you still from displaying the working SKL ecat to the public

    So many inventions made it public, when not 100% reliable, it won’t delay your development.
    it will just give more media attention, people can start preparing for a paradigm shift in energy usage. It’s just I can’t seem to understand or think of a valid compelling argument to keep delaying the public exposure. SO many ways to prove to the large public you have made a scientific breakthrough.. the most interesting idea i read on your blog so far is to drive an electric car from north to west without fueling up down the road, with a live stream…

    you sure to raise interest.

    as always thanks to you and your team for all the hard work, and best wishes to you and your family

    Arjen

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi
    Your theory is that the E-Cat draws energy from a vacuum through the interaction of electrons, and there are no nuclear reactions. This probably explains the absence of ionizing radiation.
    If I remember correctly, there was a time when the hypothesis of a transmutation of Ni was raised.

    1-Did you find traces of these possible transmutations in the user reactors?
    2-If yes, could you explain to what extent the electron aggregates promote these transmutations?

    All my support in your testing work.
    Best regards
    Raffaele

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    Please go to
    http://www.rossilivecat.com
    to find comments published today in other posts of this blog,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Quinto

    Pekka Janhunen:

    Using natural units the reduced Planck’s constant has a unit value (ħ=1) and is DIMENSIONLESS. It is a bit-like, pure number/information.

    See also par. 2 (“Energy, Mass, Frequency and Information”) of Electron Structure, Ultra-Dense Hydrogen and Low Energy Nuclear Reactions

  • Andrea Rossi

    KeithT:
    Thank you for your insight and suggestions,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    eernie1:
    No
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea,
    Do you have anything to do with the all electric GM SUV Hummer that is going to be disclosed on October 20?
    Rumer has it that the car will have much more extended mileage capability as well as power.
    Travel regards.

  • KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    As the E-Cat SKL can start and stop relatively quickly, the time from signal to activity must be relatively short, so a continuous sequence of activating, every second, minute, hour, day, 24/7 for months, as there is activation of a material that is likely not homogeneously structured at a micro / nano scale, the energy production over time is likely to have peaks and troughs, this is managed with active feedback and the AI controller.

    Ultimately peaks and troughs reflect quality control, in operation the electronics controller, E-Cat SKL and the energy extraction mechanism must be highly stable over months with no drift, again quality control. Starting from sourcing of ultra-pure chemicals, manufacture of consistent quality fuel, likely small volume so far, so bench top, small laboratory, kilo-lab scale batch production by hand, preparation has to be meticulous, but there can still be variation, likely there is a small automated production line for the charges to get consistency of manufacture, but modified and adjusted occasionally as the charge is developed, so unlikely so far any large volume runs that are adjusted to extreme precision, with the input and output electronics / electrical parts having to handle a fluctuating situation, high quality high precision components are currently required, there is likely a learning cycle of what components require to be strengthened or replaced with a higher precision. (E.g. in performance electronics there is preference for capacitors from certain sources as poor quality versions are known to eventually swell and pop).

    You are likely in a catch-22 (paradoxical) situation, to get consistent high quality that would dampen down peaks and troughs in the SKL’s activation sequence you require volume manufacture, to get to the stage of volume manufacture you have to develop the control system to get past the current developing quality situation with its peaks and troughs.

    Also, although the mechanism of energy production has been proven to work, and you likely have early indicators that your theoretical basis is correct, at this stage it is still just theory. You are continuously creating low entropy Pico-metric structures, you are likely still investigating all the parameters that control the formation of the structures or the disruption of the structures formed, likely continuous adjustments of the high precision signal are required just to keep the process moving forward, but how precise, how tight do the electronic signal tolerances have to be, is there a full understanding of all influencing parameters.

    For mass production there has to be quality control with tolerances, low quality wide tolerances may lead to a low manufacturing cost and a wide range of suppliers but a high failure rate, high quality tight tolerance manufacture comes at a high cost with a small number of qualified suppliers available, all to attain a low failure rate, so what is the minimum quality and widest tolerances for cost benefit volume production requirements.

    Keeping to a small scale and utilising AI with active feedback you have created a potentially stable energy production system, the question now is how reliable is it over how long a time period, how long can a SKL be run until for no obvious reason there is a trough or peak that the AI cannot cope with, hits a trough and the process just stops, the AI cannot get the process to restart, hits a momentary peak and some component is damaged and the system is shut down until repaired, or maybe it’s so stable it can run for years, only long term tests can provide answers.

    As you and your partners fully understand, the E-Cat SKL requires cumulative run time to establish base line statistics, building a large number of preproduction units, then tests, tests and more tests, pinpointing and solving any problems, establishing what is overbuilt, requires strengthening or modification, establishing what parts require strict quality control, what tolerances are required, this is product development, this is the difference between prototype, preproduction and a product ready to launch in quantity.

    Your marathon continues, likely with potholes or speed bumps in the road still to come, the end is now in view, I cheer you onwards.

    Regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Thank you for your contribution and sustain.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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