Hi Andrea,
I was delighted to read your announcement on the presentation, confirmed in 2021, and your decision to use lighting effects.
If possible, even better was the impression I got from reading the various comments you received and the discussion on eCat World. In fact, your confidence emerges that the next events will lead to the marketing of the first product based on eCat.
In mercatu, veritas!
The comments that do not like the use of lights and also those who care about the measurement of power are wrong.
In fact, the use of a dazzling light instinctively causes the sensation that one is in front of something powerful and, also instinctively, one places oneself in a position of attention and fear in front of the object. Then, when you realize that it is an object that you could control, the effect is achieved.
Maybe, make sure the lighting does not reach excessive levels and / or ask the people to put on protective eyewear (I’m sure you’ve already thought about this, but I prefer to reiterate this).
Also, this is really the achievement of the dream you had at the beginning of SK and that can be enough.
On the second point, you don’t have to PROVE anything. Who does not believe it misses the opportunity to participate in an event comparable to the invention of the wheel and the control of fire.
Furthermore, it is foreseeable that, in a very short time, thousands of luminous eCats will be sold in different countries of the world. A soft start, but not too much, is desirable. In a short time, the spread of eCat will not be countered by any single nation and the speed of the phenomenon will make predictable negative reactions more difficult.
Then:
Thanks Andrea for your perseverance in pursuing this goal.
The thanks is extended to all your Team and also to the Partner.
Dear Andrea. You mention that you hope to do a demonstration in 2021 and start commercialisation soon after. Is there a way we can go on a waiting list to purchase an ecat. I first expressed interest several years ago but am wanting to make sure I am in the queue if possible. . All the best with your amazing work.
E. Hergenroether:
I do not know the field of electrolysis smelters, but your suggestion is interesting. I am not able to answer, though. Are you an expert of this field ?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
thank you for your answer. Can you use the electricity as a heating source for smelters (aluminum, copper, steal etc.) ?
Smelters need a huge amount of energy. Some aluminum smelters consume as much energy as a city. If this is technically possible can you deliver ecats with an output in the megawatt range and at a competitive price for this purpose?
E. Hergenroether:
Good point.
We are working also for that, but it is more complicated that just sell the Ecats coupled with lights ready to be plugged in without any obstacle.
We prefer to start with the easiest thing to be done, all the rest will follow.
To enter the grid implies many issues we’d depend on. But we will get there.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
How much electricity is produced by fossil fuels?
In 2020, about 4,009 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.01 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States. About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases.
@Patrick Ellul:
LED lamps consume 1/5 of the energy consumed by incandescence bulbs. It has to be seen how much is the energy consumed at the outlet of the grid by the LED powered by the Ecat SKL. The demo at the presentation will surely answer this question.
Best,
Prof
Thank you for the information regarding the presentation. Very interesting.
Was the decision to go with LED lighting because:
a) It is the most reliable use of the SKL so far?
b) You are now ready for this use?
b) It is the most commercially viable use of the SKL so far?
c) It will be the first commercial application?
Patrick:
Leds consume less than incandescence lamps, but their consume is not “potatoes”.
We are talking of series of 200 Watts lamps, not of the 1 W lamps you probably are thinking of, that are used in electronic circuits.
We’ll see the numbers ( and the COP ) at the presentation. Light consumes the 58% of the energy produced in the world by fossil fuels, notwithstanding the wide diffusion of led lamps.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Robin:
The electron can be modeled by a current loop generated by a charge distribution that rotates at the speed of light. This current loop could be the origin of the electron’s mass, inertia, angolar momentum, spin, and magnetic momentum.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
My varied English does not allow me to fully
express my warm feelings for you.
I admire your honesty when you talk about your mistakes and failures. Your persistence amazes me.
You have managed to rally a great team around you. You are a talented constructor. In its theoretical
work you are not afraid to violate generally accepted dogmas .. I wish you and yor wife a long long life and see
amazing results of wide distribution
your technology throughout the earth and beyond.
Hello Andrea,
thank you for your answer.
Can we conclude that good converters already exist or can be built with standard industrial materials?
Greetings,
Koen
Would it be a good concept to, for example, drive a gas turbine via an electrically heated resistor?
Today it would be a crazy concept to provide controllable mechanical power that way, but with the E-Cat SKL, that could separate output power control from production power control.
Then only sustainable materials of proven technology are used.
In concrete terms, I am thinking of applications to power ships, run trains and pump fresh water.
Or will there already be converters available in your commercial product for which you are still perfecting the technology yourself?
Frank Acland:
Our team is focused on the preparation of the product and its presentation. We decided the place and the date. It will be in 2021.
At the presentation of the product we will also start its commercialization. This is what we are focused on right now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Aleksei Sanchenko:
I did not write, nor suggest, this report and I am not going to comment it, because the data sheet of the Ecat SKL will be disclosed during the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
On the website https://e-catworld.com/2021/03/02/claimed-plasma-electric-generator-specifications/
the following information was posted (SEE BELOW). Somebody decided to help you and made your pre-presentation. It looks strange for me.
And some of your forum Readers started to analize it. Could you make any comments?
Bestregards,
Aleksei
The following post was made by Ted Rygas.
I received the following specifications for a plasma electricity generator from my friend. I expect a lot of criticisms.
//////////////////////////////////////
Technical Details
===================
Plasma-Based Electrical Generator (A.Rossi)
The Back-EMF is the main source of energy in the reactor.
EQUIPMENT AND PARAMETERS
1. Alumina ceramic cylinder:
– Diameter: 70 mm
– Length: 80 mm
– Wall thickness: 6 +/- 1 mm.
– The cylinder is commercially available.
– End caps: Two Tungsten solid disks, 7 mm thick, serving as a Cathode and Anode. The Cathode has a short replaceable spike in the centre, the Anode has a short, replaceable, flat cylinder, protruding into the ceramic cylinder. The replaceable parts are 7 mm in length.
– Cooling: ambient air, forced flow (fan).
– The ceramic cylinder has a Tungsten support.
– Mercury is not used.
2. Insert (boat shape), contains alumina powder mixed with 7 grams of Nickel hydride complex with carbon monoxide and 14-15 grams of LiF.
Alumina powder weight is 18 times larger than the weight of LiF and Ni-hydride complex combined. The mixture is compressed and partly sintered.
3. An external coil captures AC current, about 10% of the total energy generated. The main power output is a pulsed DC current, from the circuit passing through the plasma.
4. Startup.
A. Purging the chamber with hydrogen, then evacuation using standard laboratory-size, oil- based vacuum pump (5 minutes).
B. Several ionizing short sparks, momentary 15,000 to 17,000 V with the spark-current of 8A.
5. Operating parameters:
– Ratio of energy in, to energy out: 800.
– Operating pressure: 3.5 +/- 0.2 mm Hg
– Gases: hydrogen, some CO, Lithium. Any fluorine product of decomposition of LiF is absorbed by powdered alumina.
– Pulsed power output, aver. 9 A, at 2,500 to 3,000 V.
– Operating “priming pulses”: 22-25 V, average current 8 A, frequency 786 KHz, in bursts lasting from 6 to 7 seconds, followed by 14 to 15 seconds non-pulsing.
– Temperature of Cathode: 700 deg. C.
– Temperature of Anode: 900 deg. C.
– Temp. of the ceramic cylinder: 1,800 to 1,900 deg. C.
6. No standard radiation and no “strange radiation”. Muons and hydrinos are marginal (non-detectable quantities) any hydrinos will be stable in the cell for only about 8 min., resembling stability of neutrons. Muons will decompose without reacting with protons. Marginal, not detectable quantities of deuterium can be generated. Tritium will not be generated.
7. Control.
– Excitation: Very short pulses, operational frequency range from 750 kHz to 790 kHz, optimum 786 kHz.
– Length of the series of pulses: 6 – 7 seconds.
– Length of the pulse-free time: 14 – 15 seconds.
– Standard PID controller will be sufficient to keep the system stable.
8. Utilized main effect: Spikes of Back EMF.
– Electrical energy is recovered from the primary circuitry (current flowing through the plasma). External inductive coil (around the ceramic cylinder) gets about 10% of the total energy.
Additional suggestion for charging EV batteries with an Ecat
Dear Dr Rossi,
I have a modification to my previous suggestion for using an Ecat to charge EV batteries. I now propose using two Ecats, one for each half-battery, to simplify the complexity of the switching control system.
As in conventional EVs, the High Voltage DC power from the (combined) battery supplying the drive motor would still be managed through the vehicle’s standard Battery Management System (BMS).
The power output of each Ecat would be switched on or off to charge its associated half-battery. The two half-battery outputs would then be jointly connected (electronically switched through in turn) to the power feed cable to the BMS to power the electric drive motor.
—————————————————————–
Working Example: (naming the half-batteries, Battery #1 and Battery #2)
1. Charged Battery #1 provides drive power to the motor. Ecat #2 charges Battery #2.
2. Battery #1 charge level drops.
3. Ecat #2 isolates from Battery #2, which ceases charging.
4. Low Battery #1 isolates from the vehicle BMS.
5. Charged Battery #2 connects to the vehicle BMS and powers the vehicle.
6. Ecat #1 connects to Battery #1 and starts charging Battery #1
—————————————————————–
7. Charged Battery #2 provides drive power to the motor. Ecat #1 charges Battery #1.
8. Battery #2 charge level drops.
9. Ecat #1 isolates from Battery #1, which ceases charging.
10. Low Battery #2 isolates from the vehicle BMS.
11. Charged Battery #1 connects to the vehicle BMS and powers the vehicle.
12. Ecat #2 connects to Battery #2 and starts charging Battery #2
Hi Andrea,
I was delighted to read your announcement on the presentation, confirmed in 2021, and your decision to use lighting effects.
If possible, even better was the impression I got from reading the various comments you received and the discussion on eCat World. In fact, your confidence emerges that the next events will lead to the marketing of the first product based on eCat.
In mercatu, veritas!
The comments that do not like the use of lights and also those who care about the measurement of power are wrong.
In fact, the use of a dazzling light instinctively causes the sensation that one is in front of something powerful and, also instinctively, one places oneself in a position of attention and fear in front of the object. Then, when you realize that it is an object that you could control, the effect is achieved.
Maybe, make sure the lighting does not reach excessive levels and / or ask the people to put on protective eyewear (I’m sure you’ve already thought about this, but I prefer to reiterate this).
Also, this is really the achievement of the dream you had at the beginning of SK and that can be enough.
On the second point, you don’t have to PROVE anything. Who does not believe it misses the opportunity to participate in an event comparable to the invention of the wheel and the control of fire.
Furthermore, it is foreseeable that, in a very short time, thousands of luminous eCats will be sold in different countries of the world. A soft start, but not too much, is desirable. In a short time, the spread of eCat will not be countered by any single nation and the speed of the phenomenon will make predictable negative reactions more difficult.
Then:
Thanks Andrea for your perseverance in pursuing this goal.
The thanks is extended to all your Team and also to the Partner.
Best wishes,
Franco
Gberra:
You are in the waiting list,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
E.Hergenroether:
Your email will be welcome at this address:
info@leonardocorp1996.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea. You mention that you hope to do a demonstration in 2021 and start commercialisation soon after. Is there a way we can go on a waiting list to purchase an ecat. I first expressed interest several years ago but am wanting to make sure I am in the queue if possible. . All the best with your amazing work.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
tomorrow I will write you an email.
Kind regards,
E. Hergen
E. Hergenroether:
Understood.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
E. Hergenroether:
I do not know the field of electrolysis smelters, but your suggestion is interesting. I am not able to answer, though. Are you an expert of this field ?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Toussaints Francois:
I want to present a product ready for sale.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
one clarification to my former post. I mean ecats for electrolysis smelters.
Kind regards,
E. Hergen
Dear Andrea Rossi,
One question please, at the presentation of the SKL will it be a prototype or a product ready for commercialization ?
Kind Regards
Toussaint François
Dear Mr. Rossi,
thank you for your answer. Can you use the electricity as a heating source for smelters (aluminum, copper, steal etc.) ?
Smelters need a huge amount of energy. Some aluminum smelters consume as much energy as a city. If this is technically possible can you deliver ecats with an output in the megawatt range and at a competitive price for this purpose?
Thank you for your answer and kind regards,
E. Hergen
E. Hergenroether:
Good point.
We are working also for that, but it is more complicated that just sell the Ecats coupled with lights ready to be plugged in without any obstacle.
We prefer to start with the easiest thing to be done, all the rest will follow.
To enter the grid implies many issues we’d depend on. But we will get there.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof:
Agreed,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
According to this article lighting
accounts for 15 percent of Electricity use.
https://www.energy.gov/articles/rise-and-shine-lighting-world-10-billion-led-bulbs
According to this web search.
How much electricity is produced by fossil fuels?
In 2020, about 4,009 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.01 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States. About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases.
Regards
Sam
@Patrick Ellul:
LED lamps consume 1/5 of the energy consumed by incandescence bulbs. It has to be seen how much is the energy consumed at the outlet of the grid by the LED powered by the Ecat SKL. The demo at the presentation will surely answer this question.
Best,
Prof
Dear Mr. Rossi,
concerning industrialization: Is the ecat-skl ready to deliver electricity to the grid ?
For what purposes is the ecat-skl not yet ready ?
Kind regards,
E. Hergen
Frank Acland:
All the points you put are true, plus:
e) The industrialization is ready
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Thank you for the information regarding the presentation. Very interesting.
Was the decision to go with LED lighting because:
a) It is the most reliable use of the SKL so far?
b) You are now ready for this use?
b) It is the most commercially viable use of the SKL so far?
c) It will be the first commercial application?
Best wishes,
Frank Acland
Patrick:
Leds consume less than incandescence lamps, but their consume is not “potatoes”.
We are talking of series of 200 Watts lamps, not of the 1 W lamps you probably are thinking of, that are used in electronic circuits.
We’ll see the numbers ( and the COP ) at the presentation. Light consumes the 58% of the energy produced in the world by fossil fuels, notwithstanding the wide diffusion of led lamps.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gianvico Pirazzini:
Thank you for your sustain to our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Robin:
The electron can be modeled by a current loop generated by a charge distribution that rotates at the speed of light. This current loop could be the origin of the electron’s mass, inertia, angolar momentum, spin, and magnetic momentum.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi, Andrea,
can you resume in few simple words the definition of ZBW, that is the core of
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Without math, just simple words,
Cheers
Robin
The presentation of the Ecat making light is good news in these dark times.
Gianvico
Dear Andrea,
Given that the details of the presentation will only be revealed at the presentation.
However, don’t you think that LEDs are relatively a very low consumer of power? I can power a small LED with a potato.
How do you convince your audience of the order of magnitude of power being generated? Wouldn’t it be better to boil the kettle?
Best regards,
Patrick
Frank Acland:
Lighting
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Have you decided yet what kind of work E-Cat SKL will be doing at the presentation?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Koen Vandewalle:
I wouldn’t say this,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Viktor Shipachev:
Thank you for your kind sustain to our team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Warm regards,
Dear Andrea Rossi
My varied English does not allow me to fully
express my warm feelings for you.
I admire your honesty when you talk about your mistakes and failures. Your persistence amazes me.
You have managed to rally a great team around you. You are a talented constructor. In its theoretical
work you are not afraid to violate generally accepted dogmas .. I wish you and yor wife a long long life and see
amazing results of wide distribution
your technology throughout the earth and beyond.
Hello Andrea,
thank you for your answer.
Can we conclude that good converters already exist or can be built with standard industrial materials?
Greetings,
Koen
Koen Vandewalle:
1- no
2- no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello Andrea,
Would it be a good concept to, for example, drive a gas turbine via an electrically heated resistor?
Today it would be a crazy concept to provide controllable mechanical power that way, but with the E-Cat SKL, that could separate output power control from production power control.
Then only sustainable materials of proven technology are used.
In concrete terms, I am thinking of applications to power ships, run trains and pump fresh water.
Or will there already be converters available in your commercial product for which you are still perfecting the technology yourself?
With best regards,
Koen
CC:
I agree,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The Quiet Wine Guy:
Date and location will be given in due time.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
the fig 1 of
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
with the trends of Casimir, Coulomb, and magnetic forces as a function of distance is very interesting, especially where the curves meet.
CC
Good Day Andrea,
it is fine news you shared with Frank Acland about the decision for the date and location of the presentation.
Previously, you have stated that Stockholm would be the location. Is this still the case?
Best wishes,
The Quiet Wine Guy
Frank Acland:
Our team is focused on the preparation of the product and its presentation. We decided the place and the date. It will be in 2021.
At the presentation of the product we will also start its commercialization. This is what we are focused on right now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Aleksei Sanchenko:
I did not write, nor suggest, this report and I am not going to comment it, because the data sheet of the Ecat SKL will be disclosed during the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
On the website https://e-catworld.com/2021/03/02/claimed-plasma-electric-generator-specifications/
the following information was posted (SEE BELOW). Somebody decided to help you and made your pre-presentation. It looks strange for me.
And some of your forum Readers started to analize it. Could you make any comments?
Bestregards,
Aleksei
The following post was made by Ted Rygas.
I received the following specifications for a plasma electricity generator from my friend. I expect a lot of criticisms.
//////////////////////////////////////
Technical Details
===================
Plasma-Based Electrical Generator (A.Rossi)
The Back-EMF is the main source of energy in the reactor.
EQUIPMENT AND PARAMETERS
1. Alumina ceramic cylinder:
– Diameter: 70 mm
– Length: 80 mm
– Wall thickness: 6 +/- 1 mm.
– The cylinder is commercially available.
– End caps: Two Tungsten solid disks, 7 mm thick, serving as a Cathode and Anode. The Cathode has a short replaceable spike in the centre, the Anode has a short, replaceable, flat cylinder, protruding into the ceramic cylinder. The replaceable parts are 7 mm in length.
– Cooling: ambient air, forced flow (fan).
– The ceramic cylinder has a Tungsten support.
– Mercury is not used.
2. Insert (boat shape), contains alumina powder mixed with 7 grams of Nickel hydride complex with carbon monoxide and 14-15 grams of LiF.
Alumina powder weight is 18 times larger than the weight of LiF and Ni-hydride complex combined. The mixture is compressed and partly sintered.
3. An external coil captures AC current, about 10% of the total energy generated. The main power output is a pulsed DC current, from the circuit passing through the plasma.
4. Startup.
A. Purging the chamber with hydrogen, then evacuation using standard laboratory-size, oil- based vacuum pump (5 minutes).
B. Several ionizing short sparks, momentary 15,000 to 17,000 V with the spark-current of 8A.
5. Operating parameters:
– Ratio of energy in, to energy out: 800.
– Operating pressure: 3.5 +/- 0.2 mm Hg
– Gases: hydrogen, some CO, Lithium. Any fluorine product of decomposition of LiF is absorbed by powdered alumina.
– Pulsed power output, aver. 9 A, at 2,500 to 3,000 V.
– Operating “priming pulses”: 22-25 V, average current 8 A, frequency 786 KHz, in bursts lasting from 6 to 7 seconds, followed by 14 to 15 seconds non-pulsing.
– Temperature of Cathode: 700 deg. C.
– Temperature of Anode: 900 deg. C.
– Temp. of the ceramic cylinder: 1,800 to 1,900 deg. C.
6. No standard radiation and no “strange radiation”. Muons and hydrinos are marginal (non-detectable quantities) any hydrinos will be stable in the cell for only about 8 min., resembling stability of neutrons. Muons will decompose without reacting with protons. Marginal, not detectable quantities of deuterium can be generated. Tritium will not be generated.
7. Control.
– Excitation: Very short pulses, operational frequency range from 750 kHz to 790 kHz, optimum 786 kHz.
– Length of the series of pulses: 6 – 7 seconds.
– Length of the pulse-free time: 14 – 15 seconds.
– Standard PID controller will be sufficient to keep the system stable.
8. Utilized main effect: Spikes of Back EMF.
– Electrical energy is recovered from the primary circuitry (current flowing through the plasma). External inductive coil (around the ceramic cylinder) gets about 10% of the total energy.
Dear Andrea,
What is the main focus of your work in the present period?
Best wishes,
Frank Acland
33:
Zero point energy of a system is the lowest possible energetic level of that system.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Can you elaborate your answer to Just Curious ?
Just Curious:
No.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Can the “Vacuum pressure” hypothesized by Casimir and verified in Reference 33 of
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
be considered “point zero energy” ?
JC
Martyn Aubrey:
Thank you for the suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Additional suggestion for charging EV batteries with an Ecat
Dear Dr Rossi,
I have a modification to my previous suggestion for using an Ecat to charge EV batteries. I now propose using two Ecats, one for each half-battery, to simplify the complexity of the switching control system.
As in conventional EVs, the High Voltage DC power from the (combined) battery supplying the drive motor would still be managed through the vehicle’s standard Battery Management System (BMS).
The power output of each Ecat would be switched on or off to charge its associated half-battery. The two half-battery outputs would then be jointly connected (electronically switched through in turn) to the power feed cable to the BMS to power the electric drive motor.
—————————————————————–
Working Example: (naming the half-batteries, Battery #1 and Battery #2)
1. Charged Battery #1 provides drive power to the motor. Ecat #2 charges Battery #2.
2. Battery #1 charge level drops.
3. Ecat #2 isolates from Battery #2, which ceases charging.
4. Low Battery #1 isolates from the vehicle BMS.
5. Charged Battery #2 connects to the vehicle BMS and powers the vehicle.
6. Ecat #1 connects to Battery #1 and starts charging Battery #1
—————————————————————–
7. Charged Battery #2 provides drive power to the motor. Ecat #1 charges Battery #1.
8. Battery #2 charge level drops.
9. Ecat #1 isolates from Battery #1, which ceases charging.
10. Low Battery #2 isolates from the vehicle BMS.
11. Charged Battery #1 connects to the vehicle BMS and powers the vehicle.
12. Ecat #2 connects to Battery #2 and starts charging Battery #2
—————————————————————–
This cycle then repeats.
—————————————————————–
Kind Regards,
Martyn Aubrey
Viktor Shipachev & All,
This link is from 2001: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264420571_Performance_of_Reverse_Osmosis_Units_at_High_Temperatures
B R, Henrik
Greg daigle:
Thank you for the link,
Warm regards,
A.R.
KeithT:
Not yet,
Warm Regards,
A.R.