United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Harry

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    an ecat sklep can last for 100.000 hours you wrote. What if not 100% is needed but just 10%, f.e. 10 Watt of one 100 Watt sklep is used. Would it last 1.000.000 hours – 10 times longer?
    Best regards
    Harry

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pavel:
    1- yes
    2- I do
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jeff Smathers:
    I do not understand your question: can you kindly rephrase it for me ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jeff Smathers

    Could you please estimate what the long term storage would be for non-use where the useful life of the module power output would still be 85% available.
    I understand approximation may be estimated, but would still be interesting for use planning.
    Thanks again and we do appreciate the candor extended to your future customers.

  • Pavel

    Mr. Rossi,
    1. Is it safe (health-wise) to use SKLep(s) in the same room where one lives and sleeps ?
    2. Would you do it yourself ?

  • Chuck Davis

    Hey LarryG,

    The wide variations in net-metering programs being offered will dramatically effect payback as well as the cost of a system . Many providers don’t even provide a net-metering program and in some countries they don’t even have a grid. So, the configurations are many. There is a proposal in California to radically alter the existing program and it’s not to the benefit of the consumer! Solid state batteries claim to improve characteristics where it may be feasible to create an off grid system that won’t break the bank but that’s in the future.

  • LarryG

    @Gian Antonio

    I think the last thing we want is for customers to be dissatisfied if their SKLep installation does not meet their expectation. In this case an expectation of payback period.

    The payback period is more complex than the simple calculation. You need more data to do it correctly.

    You cannot use average power consumption, you have to take into account peak power demand. If you only install for the average demand then for a large part of the day you will use more than the average your installation will provide. You have to buy this power.

    For a large part of the day you will be using less than average, reducing the payback rate. Summer consumption is different than winter. Location wrt equator influences use efficiency too (heating ves cooling for instance).

    If you install enough SKLep to handle your peak demand you have during an entire year, then the calculation becomes simpler. Payback is (for Gian) about one year times ratio of peak annual demand to average annual demand.

    I would multiply the simple calc by 2-3X as an estimate if you do not know the details.

    There is a way around this…get a bit more than your average demand so you can charge a battery and have some leeway in meeting peak demand. The battery provides power when demand goes above the SKLep capacity, it is charged when the power demand is less than the SKLep capacity. This is what current solar cell installations like Tesla PowerWall does.

    Best Regards
    LarryG

  • Andrea Rossi

    Espen VDP:
    Well
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Camillo Urbani:
    No. The heat dissipated is not relevant.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Calle H:
    We are already doing it,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gerard McEk:
    No, because the rules are different depending on Countries and specific situations,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Gerard McEk

    Dear Andrea,
    Many customers will have asked you how to connect the SKLep’s and feed energy back into the grid using an inverter. I’m sure also some large customers will do this.
    Your standard answer is always that you will give further instructions before delivery.
    My simple question is: Will you build a (small?) installation to test this, in order to give well tested and proven to work instructions at time of delivery?
    Thank you if you are able to answer this.
    Kind regards, Gerard

  • Calle H

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    I have need for information on the progress towards deliveries of the SKLep. The background is that we have this winter experienced a severe escalation of power prices that has hit private home owners very badly (some week ago the Swedish government decided to give reimbursement to worst hit home owners). To avoid a repeat next winter I am in the position to either expand my array of roof mounted solar PV or solve the issue with SKLep connected to the solar inverter. The solar PV decision deadline have to be in July. Is possible for Leonardo to post a monthly update on orders? After 1m orders follow-up with delivery forecast?
    Kind regards,
    Calle H

  • In addition to producing electricity, heat is also produced? That is, for every 100 watts electric there are at least another 120 watts like heat?

  • Espen VDP

    Dr Rossi: the most important thing now is to get your ecats built. I think you won’t have problems getting orders. So how is progress on setting up manufacturing going now?
    Regards, Espen VDP

  • Andrea Rossi

    DEAR READERS,
    ATTENTION:
    I have been informed that there are around persons that collect money saying they can sell the Ecat SKLep even if the deliveries have not yet begun. Please do not pay money to anybody that sells the Ecats, because we have authorized nobody to sell the Ecats before we make the deliveries.
    All our Clients that have sent the orders will be served directly from Leonardo Corporation, and our resellers that have ordered the Ecat SKLeps are not authorized to sell them before we grant them the delivery.
    We will publish the address of our resellers as soon as we will deliver to them the Ecat SKLeps.
    Whomever is soliciting the payment of an Ecat SKLep is making a fraudolent action.
    If somebody does so, please inform us immediately sending an email to
    info@leonardocorp1996.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    F.Dangel:
    Yes, so far you have the necessary power: in the case you cited, you need 3 kW of power, which means at least 30 units.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Camillo Urbani:
    I do not understand your question. Can you rephrase it ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rafal:
    We will give consultancy also for any specific situation to our clients before the delivery,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Rafal

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    I’m interested in buying the SKLep module but I have no idea how I can connect it to power grid in my home.

    I’ve solar panels with inverter. Initially, I was thinking that I can connect SKLep DC to the DC input terminal of my solar inverter but according to it’s specification the minimal voltage is 160V (UDC START).

    For such voltage I would need to connect 160/12 = 14 SKLep’s in series. Not even sure if this is safe.
    Also, not sure if I can connect SKLep AC into my home grid as well. I can’t find any 12V inverter which is able to synchronize with mains frequency and with built-in anty-islanding protection.
    I think it would be perfect if you can produce different SKLep variant which can easily be connected to any solar inverter. It would need output DC voltage above 200V. Any chance for this?

  • From what shapes there is a transformation from electricity. This suggests that there is also heat production, at least for 100 watts useful electric watts there is to expect at least 120 watts of excess heat. It’s correct?

  • F.Dangel

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    thanks for your answer, but i can’t order ecats if i don’t know the answer of this question:
    Is the ecat able to jump from the base load (about 20 Watt at night) to the highest load (below 3 KW) immediately and without a battery between?
    The installation i will give to an electrician, thats not the problem.
    Best regards
    F.Dangel

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gian Antonio:
    Correct, plus one month for other expenses. Conservatively, consider one year to pay back.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for your insight; obviously the mass production is more complex.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    When I was a teenager I worked in a manufacturing line that had one machine and 2 men. Me and a buddy produced about 10,000 boards a day. The game called was called “Aggrevation”. I hope you select decide to hire an appropriate company that can build an appropriate number of ECats for you, 1 million, 10 million, or whatever you need for units. 10,000 a day probably won’t be enough, and I worry for your health if you try.

    Please don’t try to build manufacturing equipment and run the process as the owner of the manufacturing facility. I honestly think your health would collapse and without experience in mass production of 1,000,000 ECatSLep units per day or per week or per month. You have never “massed produced” any of your products at this time, and I fear you may try to do it yourself without a manufacturing line and fail. Tell me please if you have contracted an appropriate manufacturer to handle this process for you, or not?

    (1) Yes I have a manufacturing line available to build unlimited ecats with.
    (2) Not yet but I plan to.
    (3) It just doesn’t work that way, Tom. I’m going to do it myself. I can’t just let go of my IP.
    (4) Other, not going to say how.

    Warm Regards,
    Tom

  • Gian Antonio

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Industries presently pay in Europe 350 $/MWh,equal to 35 cents/kWh; the Ecat SKLep costs 250 $ and makes 100 Wh/h. The calculation is simple: since the Ecat SKLep makes 1 KWh in 10 hours, in 10 hours the Ecat pays back 35 cts of $; how much time does take for the Ecat SKLep to pay back its cost of 250 $ ?
    The calculation is very simple: the Ecat SKLep will pay back itself in 7143 hours = 298 days, about 10 months.
    Correct ?
    Best,
    Gian Antonio

  • Andrea Rossi

    Koen Vandewalle:
    Our costs are mainly in US $, so our prices are in US $.
    Anyway the ratio $/E is stable enough to make irrelevant the differences caused by the change oscillations. I don’t think the situation is going to change substantially.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.
    Now it’s more than 700000
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    F.Dangel:
    We will give instructions to our clients just before the delivery about the best possible assembly depending on the specific situations,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • F.Dangel

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    is it possible to install f.e. 30 ecat SKLEP in a household (start battery is f.e. a car battery, which is also charged through the SKLEP) and to provide all the needed electricity of the house? Is the ecat able to jump from the base load (about 20 Watt at night) to the highest load (below 3 KW) immediately and without a battery between?
    (for the readers, 3 KW is the standard power connection to the grid in italy, but the number is just an example).
    Best regards from South Tirol.
    F.Dangel

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    May I ask for an update on the number of SKLeps ordered?
    Thanks for your reply, if you can.
    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Andrea,
    would you consider fixed prices in EURO ?
    For now USD/EUR is rising.
    Kind Regards,
    Koen

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    Thank you for the update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Prof

    Dr Rossi:
    The paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    has reached today the record of
    90000 Readings !
    Cheers,
    Prof

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Todd Burkett:
    Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • todd burkett

    Can the ecat operate at room temperature in an atmosphere devoid of hydrogen?

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    I ordered 3 SKLeps (one in AC, two in DC).
    From the messages written here I understood that on the sides there are holes where insert male connectors for connections with the rest of the external hardware.
    My question:
    together with the SKLeps will these male connectors also be supplied, perhaps with a piece of cable?
    I know that you will provide all the instructions before shipping, but if we have to buy auxiliary materials, it would be good for us to know their characteristics in time.
    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
    The paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    is close to reach the record of 90000 readings, a number never reached before on Researchgate by any nuclear physics publication. Do you think the demonstration made on December 9th, by the video on Youtube I found the link of on e-catworld.com , has contributed to this unbelievable result ?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Keith Thomson:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Martin:
    I want not to answer this question.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Thank you for your suggestions,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea:

    As you will be well aware, over the past couple of centuries quite a few perpetual motion machines have been invented none of which, of course, ever actually worked.

    Perhaps it would be an interesting tiny project for you to pick one you like, and attach an Ecat to it so that it can to be seen working, without any apparent source of external power.

    Thinking about how to set this up might provide a good way to relax occasionally between your bouts of considerable intellectual exertion, when the weather is not suitable for tennis.

    And it would be a good way to obtain publicity (but I doubt you will ever need it) if orders begin to lag, some time in the future.

    Eventually it might get donated to a worthy museum somewhere.

    Perpetual regards,

    Rodney.

  • ……… and of course, the assembly could also be very well thermally insulated, so taking only a modest proportion of the total energy generated to keep it at an appropriate temperature.

    Rodney.

  • @Italo R:
    = = = = = = = = = = =
    “022-01-26 11:43 Italo R.

    “Dear Dr. Rossi,
    “You wrote that the SKLep is not suitable for working in a vacuum. Does this mean for example that it can never be used outside the Earth, in space, on satellites or on the Moon?

    “Kind Regards,
    Italo R.”
    = = = = = = = = = =
    Since temperature is the issue, presumably an assembly of Ecats could be set up to keep themselves warm. But that would need modifications beyond the design features of the first product.

    Rodney.

  • Martin

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    suppose the ECAT SKLep was operated in an airtight box filled with a non-exchangeable volume of air at 1 bar and 10°C – would that work for 100,000 hours with an output of 100W?

    Best Regards, Martin

  • KeithT

    Dear Andrea,

    Within the first one million pre-orders, it is likely that Leonardo will also require to book some pre-orders, to have an available buffer stock. After the first million pre-orders are converted to actual orders will come the second million orders, the early adopters will publicise, this type of news will travel fast and attract high level attention, you will be contacted either directly by US and EU government departments both civil and military, or likely indirectly by institutions or agencies representing them, also contacted by large multi-national companies, all looking to purchase E-Cat SKLep’s and have immediate delivery so that they can personally verify the reality of this new energy source, not the kind of customers that expect to be told to join the end of the long queue.

    You will be looking to develop relationships with certain types of companies within certain types of industry / commercial business models, you will likely be able to select amongst the those that approach and want to respond with support by immediately supplying E-Cat SKLep’s for them to evaluate, i.e., you will require a buffer stock to support forward sales for the next million and more.

    With government’s, it will be in your interest to have them evaluate the E-Cat SKLep’s at the earliest opportunity, you require to get the E-Cat SKLep listed as an acceptable alternative energy source in as many countries as possible, to get the E-Cat supported by the law makers within countries, incorporated within and supported by government regulations, an energy source that companies can get grants against, carbon credits, acceptable as a national electricity grid tie in, suitable as an infrastructure investment for companies to write taxes off against, Leonardo will have to pay taxes, if government’s recognise and accept the strategic importance of the E-Cats as an energy source you will be able to write off these taxes against research and development, i.e. you will require a buffer stock to immediately support government interests.

    Leonardo itself will likely also require a quantity of units for research, long term testing, customer demonstration, customer trials, stock for any warranties, defective units, lost deliveries, damage in transit, and unforeseen requirements that normally occur with any type of business.

    You do not want to be empty handed when important people come knocking at your door, you will require some buffer stock for the selling opportunity.

    Regards,

    Keith Thomson.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Espen VDP:
    No,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    I am not able to answer, because I do not know the in how many Torrs the Ecat should operate in those conditions.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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