Gordon McKay:
This is weird: in my computer there are no typos: odd, isn’t it ?
Anyway, sorry with you and Steven N. Karels for the typo,
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Khashayar Shatti:
At the moment we do not foresee incoming issues concerning our raw materials and our supplying lines. Our strategy is very simple: to sell our products to whomever wants to buy them. If issues will arise, we will react consequently.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Addy Bianchi:
Thak you for your attention to the work of our Team and cthank you for your profession, so precious in this period.
The Ecat SKLep has a power of 100 Watts, therefore you can use it for any appliance that has a power not over 100 W.
All your appliances surely have a label where is indicated the power.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

According to my ideas, 20.3575 cm^3/10 W would be advantageous.
Then screw terminals could be fitted instead of cables. The grid dimension of 18mm height allows the connection of fork-shaped busbar combs for MCB 1P. Then a heat-shrinkable tube over it and that’s it.

I’ve silently but fascinated been following your work with the Ecat for more then ten years. Although I am a nurse with no relevant science knowledge I instinctively know that you are on to something huge and worldchanging.
I ordered a SKlep as soon it was possible, but am struggling with what practical thing I can do with it. As a ordinary user I would like to use it with one of my electrical appliances in my house, but which appliance can I use? Could I use it with my medium sized LED tv, or could I even use it on the refrigerator? Or do you have another suggestion so I can make use of it to the fullest.

Thank you for ever enduring efforts to make our lives and the world a better place

Dear Andrea Rossi
Subject: strategies
While you are demonstrating the workability of your device, I would like to be optimistic and see what your strategies would be for this new source of energy.
You see, on one side, I’m concluding that within the last 10 years of your development and on the other side within the last 10 years of development of multibrain/multiscale governance, the safest strategy would be to have production based on 51%/49% domestic/foreign share holders widespread.
Please let us know about your strategies for this new source of energy for the next 10 years from production of raw materias to final assemblies and marketing that also keeps the other energy sources intact of loss. Please don’t forget that even now, we can see that infrastructures of concentrated strategic energy sources could go under attack.
Best wishes
Khashayar Shatti
Research scientist

Dear Andrea Rossi,
I believe that Steven N. Karels was confused by the typo of the cm^3/W specification in an earlier message (responding to Anthony). You used the literal 18 cm^3/W value but in a subsequent message referred to the 18 cm^3/10 W which corrected the value. I was trying to wrap my head around the typo as well. It looked like the Mini SKLep specs were well below the typo value… and, as you subsequently clarified, they were. Even better, the new theoretical reverse energy density is 8.482/1.8 or 4.71 times better than the current Mini SKLep value. That’s great if you can approach the theoretical. We are all pulling for your success.

Dear Andrea. The current 10 W Ecat is quoted as weighing 30 g – ie 3 g / W. You just stated the limits are 5 g / W. Did you mean 0.5g / W ? Please clarify. Kind Regards. Gberra

Dear Andrea,
1.8 cubic meters per megawatt ( if I understand correctly) is truly impressive but, of course, we cannot imagine 100k Mini Ecats piled on top of each other. How much space is it reasonable to think it takes for a megawatt plant, including connections, control systems and cooling systems, can a classic 20-foot container be enough?
Regards, Giuseppe Censorio

Dr Rossi,
I would like to inform the readers of the JoNP that from the 3rd through the 7th of October 2022 has been made the XXVII Russian Conference “Cold Transmutations of Nuclei of Chemical Elements and Ball Lighting”.
More information can be found here: http://www.lenr.seplm.ru
Thank you if you can publish this comment
Yuri

Steven N. Karels:
We are continuing our tests and experiments and the design continue to change, as it will for ever. So we reserve to change the dimensions anytime for better.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

M.Elshoff:
I am afraid your mouse has eaten all the cheese of your math…
Let us make a more exact and extensive calculation:
1.8 cm^3/W
18 cm^3/10 W
180 cm^3/100 W ( AND NOT 1800 !!! )
1.8 L/ Kw
18 L/ 10 kW
180 L/100 kW
1.8 m^3/ MW
This is the ratio between volume and power we think we can reach, based on out R&D in course.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

You posted a possible inverse power density of “Theoretically we should reach 18 cm^3/W”

The specified dimensions of the current 10W Mini-SKLep are a diameter of 60 mm (or 6 cm) and a height of 30 mm (or 3 cm).

The volume of the present specifi3ed Mini-SKLep is 84.82 cm3. Given an output power of 10 W, an equivalent density would be 8.482 cm3/W. Please clarify.

Dr Rossi,
I appreciate the idea of producing a small unit like the mini Ecat SKLep, able to be assembled theoretically without limits to combine any needed power, just like a molecules that can be combined to compose anything. You wrote you are further shrinking the dimensions of the mini SKLep: which dimensions do you think will be reached ?

Dear Dr Rossi,
About the video of the direct streaming https://youtube.com/@ecatthenewfire
can the PSU we see there be used for many Ecat SKLep in parallel ?
How many Ecat SKLep can be powered by a PSU ?

Steven Nicholes Karels:
We will give instructins for the specific situations. By default the assembling will be made by bolting making a standalone unit.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Good morning Dr Rossi
Is it possible to order 3 x 1KW close-box (used as heater) + 2 x 360w close-box all with an output voltage of 28v DC adjustable with a pot/knob ? Or i have to buy single SKLeps and
then build my own array ? Does the price vary a lot?
Thamk you : Mario

We have previously discussed the electrical combinations for the Mini-SKLep units. What about mechanical considerations? Will a “stack’ of 10 or 12 Mini-SKLep be structurally secure so they can be treated as a standalone unit? Would this be accomplished by bolting them to each other? How should they mechanically be supported? Please elaborate on how the modules are mechanically combined.

Dear Dr. Rossi
Ref: https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.02752
It is interesting to note that your approach is fulfilling the plus bottom-up approach in a Multiscale governance that is evolving gradually, focusing on decision making based on signals and connectivities you receive and have everyday from scientists, engineers and the rest of the people who are interested in development of ecat.
I’m not exactly sure when, as an example, a mobile set is being developed, or a car is being developed, how far the big companies have chosen this approach of top-down added to bottom-up multiscale governance, however this approach seems to be the future generation’s decision making approach in all aspects of a much more intelligent Multiscale governance.
Best luck
Khashayar Shatti
Research Scientist

Dear Andrea, not a technical question, but a hopeful comment. If the E Cat orders can be delivered to the first customers by Xmas, it will be a wonderful Christmas gift or the entire world and every person in it.

It’s highly likely that you would have taken some pictures of the 2kW setup. Is it possible to share that with us? It would be the first time we have seen >1 MiniSKLeps combined and would help with preorders, especially if you could show a 2KW output. At the very least it would give us all some interesting conversation points to keep us happy for the next few weeks 🙂

Testing a unit capable of producing 2kW of electrical power likely requires some special considerations. Given a nominal Mini-SKLep of 12VDC, a 10W output from a single Mini-SKLep would output about 0.833 Amps. So, placing them all in parallel would have a current of about 167 Amps. On the other hand, placing them all in series would generate an output voltage of 2400 Volts.

In your specification, it suggests a limiting voltage of 240 volts. Using this, I suspect the actual performance of the 2kW combined unit would have an output voltage around 200 VDC and an output current of about 10 Amps. Is that approximately correct?

Physicist:
With our surprise, the specific consume per lamp decreases : the derivate of the integral of the energy consume in function of the number of assembled units is slightly negative: this observation is related to a maximum of 200 units. Surely an eventual increase of units should go toward a constant value.
The 200 units show a consume of 245 uWh/h (microWatthour/h) per unit.
We are using a multimeter PEAK TECH 3430 that has a resolution of +/- 1% down to 10 uA ( ten microA )
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Dr Rossi,
About the 200 Mini-SKLep units in parallel you are testing in your US lab: can you say which is the consume of each lamp ? I mean: do the specific consume per lamp increase, remain even, or decrease in a parallel assembly of more lamps ?
I hope this is not confidential,
Best
P.

In solar panels, they use bypass diodes in parallel with a sub-string of solar cells so that if a cell fails (or becomes temporarily shaded from the sun) current can bypass the sub-string and the full panel can still produce voltage and current.

Similarly the solar panels also utilize a blocking diode connected in series with the entire string of cells to prevent reverse current from leaking back from the battery at nighttime when the cells are not generating current and voltage.

1) Is this something that MiniSKLeps, or assemblies of MiniSKLeps, do, or could, utilize?

(For those interested, Wikipedia has a diagram of solar panel bypass and blocking diodes.)

You mentioned in another post that 200 Mini-SKLeps had been connected.

1. Were these in parallel, series, or combinations of serial and parallel?
2. Did you observe a total of 2 kW of output power?
3. What Amps and Volts did you observe?

Yuri Evdokimov:
Thank you for your kind attention to the work of our Team.
I am sorry to observe that the topics of your comment are entirely confidential, therefore I cannot give answers in positive or in negative.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Dear Andrea Rossi,
I have been watching your noble work for many years with great admiration. I was prompted to write this note of ambiguity and reticence regarding the current consumption and the required source power for the ECat Mini SKLep. Members of the site are interested in this issue. Including me. Therefore, I decided to share my thoughts here and get your opinion from you.
Of Of course, large current pulses are required to initiate and run the ECat Mini SKLep. Therefore, the pulse power of the power supply must meet these requirements. With pulsed current consumption ECat Mini SKLep from the power supply, the amplitude of the current can be much higher than the consumed average current Iaver. The readingsof the average current meterIaver are obtained over some averaging timeTaver.When pulsed current consumptionECat Mini SKLep average current Iaver estimated from a simple ratio Iaver=IpTp/Taver. Here Ip is the amplitude of the consumption current pulse; Tp is the duration of the consumption current pulse.

In this case, the average current of ECat Mini SKLep (SKL-10) is Iaver=1mA=10-3A. For the power supply used, the duration of the Taver averaging is determined by the update time of the digital display (seen in the video) and is approximately 0.5 s. We will consider Taver=0.5 s. Let’s consider two examples. For example, if the pulse duration is Tp=20 µs=20 10-6 s, then the amplitude of the current pulse reaches Ip=25A. If Tp=50µs, then Ip=10A. In this case, the average current consumption does not exceed 1 mA! The same average current Iaver=1mA will be, for example, in the first case, if the current consumption includes a sequence of 10 pulses with a duration of 2 μs and an amplitude of 25A.

Gordon McKay:

This is weird: in my computer there are no typos: odd, isn’t it ?

Anyway, sorry with you and Steven N. Karels for the typo,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Khashayar Shatti:

At the moment we do not foresee incoming issues concerning our raw materials and our supplying lines. Our strategy is very simple: to sell our products to whomever wants to buy them. If issues will arise, we will react consequently.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Addy Bianchi:

Thak you for your attention to the work of our Team and cthank you for your profession, so precious in this period.

The Ecat SKLep has a power of 100 Watts, therefore you can use it for any appliance that has a power not over 100 W.

All your appliances surely have a label where is indicated the power.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

RL:

Thank you for your suggestion,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Good day Mr Rossi,

According to my ideas, 20.3575 cm^3/10 W would be advantageous.

Then screw terminals could be fitted instead of cables. The grid dimension of 18mm height allows the connection of fork-shaped busbar combs for MCB 1P. Then a heat-shrinkable tube over it and that’s it.

Best regards RL

Dear mr Rossi,

I’ve silently but fascinated been following your work with the Ecat for more then ten years. Although I am a nurse with no relevant science knowledge I instinctively know that you are on to something huge and worldchanging.

I ordered a SKlep as soon it was possible, but am struggling with what practical thing I can do with it. As a ordinary user I would like to use it with one of my electrical appliances in my house, but which appliance can I use? Could I use it with my medium sized LED tv, or could I even use it on the refrigerator? Or do you have another suggestion so I can make use of it to the fullest.

Thank you for ever enduring efforts to make our lives and the world a better place

Addy Bianchi

Dear Andrea Rossi

Subject: strategies

While you are demonstrating the workability of your device, I would like to be optimistic and see what your strategies would be for this new source of energy.

You see, on one side, I’m concluding that within the last 10 years of your development and on the other side within the last 10 years of development of multibrain/multiscale governance, the safest strategy would be to have production based on 51%/49% domestic/foreign share holders widespread.

Please let us know about your strategies for this new source of energy for the next 10 years from production of raw materias to final assemblies and marketing that also keeps the other energy sources intact of loss. Please don’t forget that even now, we can see that infrastructures of concentrated strategic energy sources could go under attack.

Best wishes

Khashayar Shatti

Research scientist

Dear Andrea Rossi,

I believe that Steven N. Karels was confused by the typo of the cm^3/W specification in an earlier message (responding to Anthony). You used the literal 18 cm^3/W value but in a subsequent message referred to the 18 cm^3/10 W which corrected the value. I was trying to wrap my head around the typo as well. It looked like the Mini SKLep specs were well below the typo value… and, as you subsequently clarified, they were. Even better, the new theoretical reverse energy density is 8.482/1.8 or 4.71 times better than the current Mini SKLep value. That’s great if you can approach the theoretical. We are all pulling for your success.

Sincerely,

Gordon MacKay

Dear Andrea. The current 10 W Ecat is quoted as weighing 30 g – ie 3 g / W. You just stated the limits are 5 g / W. Did you mean 0.5g / W ? Please clarify. Kind Regards. Gberra

Dear Andrea,

1.8 cubic meters per megawatt ( if I understand correctly) is truly impressive but, of course, we cannot imagine 100k Mini Ecats piled on top of each other. How much space is it reasonable to think it takes for a megawatt plant, including connections, control systems and cooling systems, can a classic 20-foot container be enough?

Regards, Giuseppe Censorio

Dr Rossi,

I would like to inform the readers of the JoNP that from the 3rd through the 7th of October 2022 has been made the XXVII Russian Conference “Cold Transmutations of Nuclei of Chemical Elements and Ball Lighting”.

More information can be found here:

http://www.lenr.seplm.ru

Thank you if you can publish this comment

Yuri

Steven N. Karels:

We are continuing our tests and experiments and the design continue to change, as it will for ever. So we reserve to change the dimensions anytime for better.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Steven N. Karels:

Wrong.

Please read my answer to Jan Srajer minutes ago,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Jan Srajer:

1.8 cm^3/W = 0.555 W/cm^3 ( approx )

Weight: 5g/ W

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Mr. Rossi

Can you please convert the volume calculation to a weight calculation?

Warm Regards J.Š.

M.Elshoff:

I am afraid your mouse has eaten all the cheese of your math…

Let us make a more exact and extensive calculation:

1.8 cm^3/W

18 cm^3/10 W

180 cm^3/100 W ( AND NOT 1800 !!! )

1.8 L/ Kw

18 L/ 10 kW

180 L/100 kW

1.8 m^3/ MW

This is the ratio between volume and power we think we can reach, based on out R&D in course.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dear Andrea Rossi,

For the theoretical density, perhaps you mean to write: 0.118 W/cm3?

Dear Andrea Rossi,

You posted a possible inverse power density of “Theoretically we should reach 18 cm^3/W”

The specified dimensions of the current 10W Mini-SKLep are a diameter of 60 mm (or 6 cm) and a height of 30 mm (or 3 cm).

The volume of the present specifi3ed Mini-SKLep is 84.82 cm3. Given an output power of 10 W, an equivalent density would be 8.482 cm3/W. Please clarify.

Der Andrea Rossi,

than it will be 1800 cm³ for a 100 W e-cat ? ( 1,8 cm³ for 1 Watt is 18cm³ for 10 Watt for the mouse-cat )

Andrea Rossi

November 19, 2022 at 5:34 AM

Anthony:

Theoretically we should reach 18 cm^3/W

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Weleda:

1- yes

2- depends on the power of the PSU

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Anthony:

Theoretically we should reach 18 cm^3/W

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dr Rossi,

I appreciate the idea of producing a small unit like the mini Ecat SKLep, able to be assembled theoretically without limits to combine any needed power, just like a molecules that can be combined to compose anything. You wrote you are further shrinking the dimensions of the mini SKLep: which dimensions do you think will be reached ?

Dear Dr Rossi,

About the video of the direct streaming

https://youtube.com/@ecatthenewfire

can the PSU we see there be used for many Ecat SKLep in parallel ?

How many Ecat SKLep can be powered by a PSU ?

Juliana and all Readers:

The easiest way to watch the Youtube video is to go to

https://youtube.com/@ecatthenewfire

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dr Rossi,

Which is the easiest way to watch the youtube streaming of the Ecat ?

Best

Juliana

Steven Nicholes Karels:

We will give instructins for the specific situations. By default the assembling will be made by bolting making a standalone unit.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Mario:

Better buy single SKLeps and combine as you want. We will give instructions to make assemblies.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Frank Acland:

premature . Just R&D.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dear Andrea,

For the 2 kW assembly of E-Cats you have been testing:

a) Have you been running it at full power?

b) What load have you been using?

c) How long has it been operating continuously?

Thank you very much,

Frank Acland

Good morning Dr Rossi

Is it possible to order 3 x 1KW close-box (used as heater) + 2 x 360w close-box all with an output voltage of 28v DC adjustable with a pot/knob ? Or i have to buy single SKLeps and

then build my own array ? Does the price vary a lot?

Thamk you : Mario

Dear Andrea Rossia,

We have previously discussed the electrical combinations for the Mini-SKLep units. What about mechanical considerations? Will a “stack’ of 10 or 12 Mini-SKLep be structurally secure so they can be treated as a standalone unit? Would this be accomplished by bolting them to each other? How should they mechanically be supported? Please elaborate on how the modules are mechanically combined.

Daviid- UK:

We are working to get it asap,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Khashayar Shatti,

Thank you for the link and for your insight,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dear Dr. Rossi

Ref: https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.02752

It is interesting to note that your approach is fulfilling the plus bottom-up approach in a Multiscale governance that is evolving gradually, focusing on decision making based on signals and connectivities you receive and have everyday from scientists, engineers and the rest of the people who are interested in development of ecat.

I’m not exactly sure when, as an example, a mobile set is being developed, or a car is being developed, how far the big companies have chosen this approach of top-down added to bottom-up multiscale governance, however this approach seems to be the future generation’s decision making approach in all aspects of a much more intelligent Multiscale governance.

Best luck

Khashayar Shatti

Research Scientist

Dear Andrea, not a technical question, but a hopeful comment. If the E Cat orders can be delivered to the first customers by Xmas, it will be a wonderful Christmas gift or the entire world and every person in it.

Steven Nicholes Karels:

It depends on the combinations of series/parallels,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Mark Saker:

We will do it when the tests on course will be completed.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dear Andrea,

It’s highly likely that you would have taken some pictures of the 2kW setup. Is it possible to share that with us? It would be the first time we have seen >1 MiniSKLeps combined and would help with preorders, especially if you could show a 2KW output. At the very least it would give us all some interesting conversation points to keep us happy for the next few weeks 🙂

Please do this, it will help.

Kind Regards

Mark Saker

Dear Andrea Rossi,

Testing a unit capable of producing 2kW of electrical power likely requires some special considerations. Given a nominal Mini-SKLep of 12VDC, a 10W output from a single Mini-SKLep would output about 0.833 Amps. So, placing them all in parallel would have a current of about 167 Amps. On the other hand, placing them all in series would generate an output voltage of 2400 Volts.

In your specification, it suggests a limiting voltage of 240 volts. Using this, I suspect the actual performance of the 2kW combined unit would have an output voltage around 200 VDC and an output current of about 10 Amps. Is that approximately correct?

Physicist:

With our surprise, the specific consume per lamp decreases : the derivate of the integral of the energy consume in function of the number of assembled units is slightly negative: this observation is related to a maximum of 200 units. Surely an eventual increase of units should go toward a constant value.

The 200 units show a consume of 245 uWh/h (microWatthour/h) per unit.

We are using a multimeter PEAK TECH 3430 that has a resolution of +/- 1% down to 10 uA ( ten microA )

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dr Rossi,

About the 200 Mini-SKLep units in parallel you are testing in your US lab: can you say which is the consume of each lamp ? I mean: do the specific consume per lamp increase, remain even, or decrease in a parallel assembly of more lamps ?

I hope this is not confidential,

Best

P.

Steven Nicholes Karels:

1. all

2. yes

3. depends on the combinations- the data of R&D phases are confidential

Warm Regards,

A.R.

WaltC:

Yes, but it depends on the specific situations,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dr Rossi,

In solar panels, they use bypass diodes in parallel with a sub-string of solar cells so that if a cell fails (or becomes temporarily shaded from the sun) current can bypass the sub-string and the full panel can still produce voltage and current.

Similarly the solar panels also utilize a blocking diode connected in series with the entire string of cells to prevent reverse current from leaking back from the battery at nighttime when the cells are not generating current and voltage.

1) Is this something that MiniSKLeps, or assemblies of MiniSKLeps, do, or could, utilize?

(For those interested, Wikipedia has a diagram of solar panel bypass and blocking diodes.)

Best wishes,

WaltC

Dear Andrea Rossi,

You mentioned in another post that 200 Mini-SKLeps had been connected.

1. Were these in parallel, series, or combinations of serial and parallel?

2. Did you observe a total of 2 kW of output power?

3. What Amps and Volts did you observe?

Frank Acland:

200, in our US laboratory.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dear Andrea,

What is the largest number of 10 W MiniSKLeps you have combined together successfully so far?

Many thanks,

Frank Acland

Yuri Evdokimov:

Thank you for your kind attention to the work of our Team.

I am sorry to observe that the topics of your comment are entirely confidential, therefore I cannot give answers in positive or in negative.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Dear Andrea Rossi,

I have been watching your noble work for many years with great admiration. I was prompted to write this note of ambiguity and reticence regarding the current consumption and the required source power for the ECat Mini SKLep. Members of the site are interested in this issue. Including me. Therefore, I decided to share my thoughts here and get your opinion from you.

Of Of course, large current pulses are required to initiate and run the ECat Mini SKLep. Therefore, the pulse power of the power supply must meet these requirements. With pulsed current consumption ECat Mini SKLep from the power supply, the amplitude of the current can be much higher than the consumed average current Iaver. The readingsof the average current meterIaver are obtained over some averaging timeTaver.When pulsed current consumptionECat Mini SKLep average current Iaver estimated from a simple ratio Iaver=IpTp/Taver. Here Ip is the amplitude of the consumption current pulse; Tp is the duration of the consumption current pulse.

In this case, the average current of ECat Mini SKLep (SKL-10) is Iaver=1mA=10-3A. For the power supply used, the duration of the Taver averaging is determined by the update time of the digital display (seen in the video) and is approximately 0.5 s. We will consider Taver=0.5 s. Let’s consider two examples. For example, if the pulse duration is Tp=20 µs=20 10-6 s, then the amplitude of the current pulse reaches Ip=25A. If Tp=50µs, then Ip=10A. In this case, the average current consumption does not exceed 1 mA! The same average current Iaver=1mA will be, for example, in the first case, if the current consumption includes a sequence of 10 pulses with a duration of 2 μs and an amplitude of 25A.

Sincerely,

YuEvdokimov

Sam:

Thank you for the link,

Warm Regards,

A.R.