DrD:
The R&D related to the E-Cat QuarkX and the direct production of e.m.f. has been made entirely in the laboratory of Leonardo Corporation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
IH’s patent applications reads like an experiment description that could have been written by a group of 12th graders for a school project.
On the other side, yours is written like what one would expect from a patent; moreover it is written in a way that shows years of experience dealing with the patent office. You seem to have a very talented patent lawyer.
Managing billions of dollars and building up an industry is a very different game. You will be much better off partnering with real industrialists on whose experience you can rely rather than fund managers who are bringing nothing to the table.
I believe that your first customer will be more than just a simple technology user. They will be your best partner in the development of the e-cat, in what will turn out to be a massive win-win situation.
To my knowledge, IH have not publicly said that “they do not pay because you did not teach to them to make the plant”. Were you inferring from the press release where IH said that they were unable to “substantiate” your technology? Because that statement could be interpreted in a myriad ways.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
From public documentation we read that
The secret customer test started on 19th february 2015 and ended on 15th february 2016.
The elapsed time was 362 days (First and last days included).
A) why sombody refers to the test as a 352 days test?
B) success goal was defined as 350 no-problem days out of 400. So the “problem” days were only 362-350=12 days?
C) you had still 50-12=38 “margin” days to play with, but till the very last day you were worried by F9. Why?
D) if the plant had been not personally attended by you, would you probably have lost some other day out of 38? How many? More than 38?
E) was your presence really decisive for the test success or, with the actual knowledge of the past, the test would be a success anyway, even unattended by Leonardo personnel?
As a long time supporter of yours, I regret that IH has chosen to breach their contractual obligations and cease to be a reliable eCat development partner. On the other hand, I am heartened that you plan to proceed on an accelerated basis to develop and produce the most advanced eCat models and that you seem to have the required resources to do so.
One potential speed-bump to production and sales that you have mentioned is Safety Certification (Safety Certification has been an insurmountable obstacle in the past). Given that:
1. Do you think Safety Certification is a significant risk to timely eCat (quark) production & sales?
2. Do you currently have the needed Safety Certification in process?
3. If not, when do you anticipate such certification being achieved?
Thanks as always for your openness and best wishes for you continued success.
Steven N. Karels:
1- theoretically not, practically yes. Too small becomes very expensive
2- correct
3- to be defined
4- a: depends on the applications
4- b: as above
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
It appears that Woodford in London has a significant role in the steal of your technology: they are selling bonds with inside your technology.
Roseline
I would request my fellow readers of JONP not to discuss the pending court case and for Andrea to be very restrictive in his answers in this subject. Public postings are “discoverable” in the US legal system (i.e., the Court) and could be used against Andrea’s interests. That said, I will ask no questions on this matter.
On another topic:
1. Is there a lower limit on the size of an eCat reactor, e.g., 1W of thermal power?
2. Is the desire to go to lower sized eCat reactor primarily driven by the desire to increase the quantization of the overall output? Obviously, more modules to be controlled means more control complexity but not necessarily a corresponding increase in cost.
3. Is there an optimal reactor size in terms of duration of self sustaining mode (SSM)? That is, as the reactor size is increased or decreased, does the SSM performance vary or is it essentially constant?
4. I would assume that a valid size for an eCat reactor would be about 1% of the total system output – that way you could easily control the overall output by “turning on or turning off” a specific eCat reactor.
a. Is this assumption reasonable?
b. Is this approach applicable to how you would envision such a system?
Dear Andrea,
You probably omitted to post and answer my question because it was sensitive and not something you wanted to be seen which I completely understand and respect. Just in case it was an oversight,
the question was: is the “know-how” about how to produce electric directly, that came to you over Christmas shared with IH?
May God continue to guide and protect you.
David
We’ll have to see how the legal case evolves. I wish you good luck with that. In the meantime, I’m interested to learn how you plan to proceed. You have indicated that you are in a good position and you plan to accelerate your production plans. Maybe you could answer one or more of the following questions:
1) How large is your Leonardo team now?
2) Will you continue to operate from the USA?
3) Does Leonardo plan to go in production totally independent now?
4) Do you still plan an announcement in Stockholm soon?
Unbelievable that IH would do this application with a straight face! To be clear, were you informed of the filing or the publication of the patent? To the uninformed readers: there can be some time passed between the two.
Dear Andrea Rossi:
I have seen a tenth of patent applications made by Industrial Heat , with you as the inventor:
1- did you authorize the international patent applications and the EPO applications they made ?
2- I noticed that their patent applications confirm that they made the tests, replicating your Effect: therefore they are lying when they say that no replication have made
3- they have put in their applications a certain “Thomas Barker” as the co-inventor: but all the patent applications that have him as the co-inventor describe in all the apparatus and the method that have been described in all your prior papers, tests, third independent party validation tests, patent applications: it seems that the unique thing that they have invented is the “co-Inventor”. This is frauds uopon frauds against you, or am I wrong ? Is this a replay of the Meucci- Bell history ?
Thank you for answering,
Cheers,
Maurizio
Marie:
So, you ask me how a plant that works can be turned into a plant that does not work? You know, sometime we of Leonardo Corporation are able to make miracles. I want to be generous with you and disclose the secret about how we made this miracle: sending the bill.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Today in the internet has been published an application for a patent made by Industrial Heat, in which they copied your 1 MW plant: they result to be the Assegnee, you the inventor. They say in the text of the patent that they made it work and it works well, to the point that they have applied a patent for it. Now I understand how right you are: when they have to pay your bill, they say that they are not able to replicate your Effect, but in a document as important as is a patent application to the US Patent Office they say that the plant works well and that they made it.
If this is not a fraud, what is it ?
In past I was sceptic on you, but now I begin to understand that you are a patrimony and that we have to defend you.
Never give up,
Eldon
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Today Industrial Heat has published a patent application in the USA for a patent that is a copy of your description of the 1MW E-Cat. They say it works. But then, if it works to the point that they patent it, how can they say that they have not been able to replicate it ?
Cheers,
Marie
Felix Rends:
Your comment is intelligent, but my possibility to answer is very limited from the fact that you are touching in part issues that so far have to be confined in Court.
I cannot foresee what will happen in Court.
If IH will retain the license or not will be decided in Court, nowhere else.
The money of Leonardo Corporation will be employed to increase exponentially the expansion of our concern: I want to make jobs, I want to make E-Cats; I am an industrialist, not a financial speculator. We must change the actual trend: industry must have finance at his service, not the vice versa, if we really want to make jobs and really we want a more equally distributed richness in our society.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea:
I just want to say that all the persons around me are your followers against IH. But what about Woodford ? Have they been involved in the scheme?
Eddy
Giuseppe:
I do not nderstand: which comment are you referring to? Nobody here has commented Italian justice and I have total respect for the Justice of every Country.
Please indicate me the wrong comment, I will erase it, but I am not finding it!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
i’m a little bit disappointed reading here some comments regarding the italian justice and the distorted way of how others see Italy.
In particular, they say that is corruptible, and that you can not believe in it.
In Italy we definitely have a lot of problems, first of all to not knowing how to retain and leverage brains like your.
On Justice i can definitely say that it is slow and has too many levels of courts, but to say that is corruptible I consider it out of place.
Dear Andrea Rossi:
The great community of Italian Emigrates in Australia backs you spiritually: win for us agaist those sharks ! And when your E-Cats will arrive in Australia we will be proud to buy them.
Go, Andrea, never give up !!!
Dear Andrea Rossi, I dont want to comment here on the law case (if you are interested in my opinion you can read it here https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2990-Why-Cherokee-changed-its-tune/?postID=16593#post16593 ) but my question is, what is your future plan and what will happen if Industrial Heat pays the 89 Million $US? Does this mean, that they have fulfilled the contract and have the licences for the areas named in the contract and then business as usual, or what?
I know business is often hard, especially if there is a dispute, but in this special case, that reminds me to a blog buster thriller, I wonder if you see any basis for a cooperation with an licensee Industrial Heat in the future?
(by the way, if there will be a movie about your story in the future I would recommend Luc Besson director 😉
Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
Thank you for the interesting link, but, about it, let me say that I am not a superman, I am only a strong worker that wants not his work to be stolen, the others are not inferior people ( inferior people do not exist), but persons that want to get what they have not paid. Zarathustra has nothing to do with it.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
dear Andrea th Rossi I have been following the e cat story now for 5 years and have placed an order for 4 e-cat home heating units. will the law suite with I.H. have any effect on the sale of the home e-cats for heating? have the results of the 350 day test been released to the public ?
best of luck in court
Don
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Did you see the editorial Peter Gluck published today?
Comments?
Peter Gluck:
Thank you for the interesting link.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Till solid data will be available the info-war is too intense. See please
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/04/mar-10-2016-very-short-pause-in-rossi.html
I made appeal to a friend who is calm, objective and wiser than me
Best wishes,
Peter
DrD:
The R&D related to the E-Cat QuarkX and the direct production of e.m.f. has been made entirely in the laboratory of Leonardo Corporation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
IH’s patent applications reads like an experiment description that could have been written by a group of 12th graders for a school project.
On the other side, yours is written like what one would expect from a patent; moreover it is written in a way that shows years of experience dealing with the patent office. You seem to have a very talented patent lawyer.
Managing billions of dollars and building up an industry is a very different game. You will be much better off partnering with real industrialists on whose experience you can rely rather than fund managers who are bringing nothing to the table.
I believe that your first customer will be more than just a simple technology user. They will be your best partner in the development of the e-cat, in what will turn out to be a massive win-win situation.
Dr Rossi,
If Industrial Heat says that the reactor doesn’t work, then why did they apply for a patent with Rossi’s technology?
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2015127263&recNum=1&maxRec=&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=&queryString=&tab=PCT+Biblio
Dear Andrea,
To my knowledge, IH have not publicly said that “they do not pay because you did not teach to them to make the plant”. Were you inferring from the press release where IH said that they were unable to “substantiate” your technology? Because that statement could be interpreted in a myriad ways.
Best Regards,
Janne
Dear Andrea Rossi,
From public documentation we read that
The secret customer test started on 19th february 2015 and ended on 15th february 2016.
The elapsed time was 362 days (First and last days included).
A) why sombody refers to the test as a 352 days test?
B) success goal was defined as 350 no-problem days out of 400. So the “problem” days were only 362-350=12 days?
C) you had still 50-12=38 “margin” days to play with, but till the very last day you were worried by F9. Why?
D) if the plant had been not personally attended by you, would you probably have lost some other day out of 38? How many? More than 38?
E) was your presence really decisive for the test success or, with the actual knowledge of the past, the test would be a success anyway, even unattended by Leonardo personnel?
Best Regards
Dr Rossi, seen on ECW:
Penon might find himself in the hot-seat about if he triple-checked whether Rossi isn’t having the energy beamed in from aliens in outer space.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Today, Sunday, what are you doing ?
Curiosity Jack
Andrea,
As a long time supporter of yours, I regret that IH has chosen to breach their contractual obligations and cease to be a reliable eCat development partner. On the other hand, I am heartened that you plan to proceed on an accelerated basis to develop and produce the most advanced eCat models and that you seem to have the required resources to do so.
One potential speed-bump to production and sales that you have mentioned is Safety Certification (Safety Certification has been an insurmountable obstacle in the past). Given that:
1. Do you think Safety Certification is a significant risk to timely eCat (quark) production & sales?
2. Do you currently have the needed Safety Certification in process?
3. If not, when do you anticipate such certification being achieved?
Thanks as always for your openness and best wishes for you continued success.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
How are going your tests and R&D with the QuarkX?
Cheers,
Ron
John:
There is no difference, substantially, because you can retrieve a patent application anytime.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Maurizio:
I cannot answer to your question, pending litigation in Court.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andre Blum:
1- 33 persons
2- yes
3- yes
4- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N. Karels:
1- theoretically not, practically yes. Too small becomes very expensive
2- correct
3- to be defined
4- a: depends on the applications
4- b: as above
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Janet Michele:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
this evaluation may help your readers understand the current events surrounding this controversy:
https://animpossibleinvention.com/2016/04/09/heres-my-hypothesis-on-the-rossi-ih-affair/
Janet Michele
Dr Andrea Rossi:
It appears that Woodford in London has a significant role in the steal of your technology: they are selling bonds with inside your technology.
Roseline
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I would request my fellow readers of JONP not to discuss the pending court case and for Andrea to be very restrictive in his answers in this subject. Public postings are “discoverable” in the US legal system (i.e., the Court) and could be used against Andrea’s interests. That said, I will ask no questions on this matter.
On another topic:
1. Is there a lower limit on the size of an eCat reactor, e.g., 1W of thermal power?
2. Is the desire to go to lower sized eCat reactor primarily driven by the desire to increase the quantization of the overall output? Obviously, more modules to be controlled means more control complexity but not necessarily a corresponding increase in cost.
3. Is there an optimal reactor size in terms of duration of self sustaining mode (SSM)? That is, as the reactor size is increased or decreased, does the SSM performance vary or is it essentially constant?
4. I would assume that a valid size for an eCat reactor would be about 1% of the total system output – that way you could easily control the overall output by “turning on or turning off” a specific eCat reactor.
a. Is this assumption reasonable?
b. Is this approach applicable to how you would envision such a system?
Dear Andrea,
You probably omitted to post and answer my question because it was sensitive and not something you wanted to be seen which I completely understand and respect. Just in case it was an oversight,
the question was: is the “know-how” about how to produce electric directly, that came to you over Christmas shared with IH?
May God continue to guide and protect you.
David
Dear Andrea,
We’ll have to see how the legal case evolves. I wish you good luck with that. In the meantime, I’m interested to learn how you plan to proceed. You have indicated that you are in a good position and you plan to accelerate your production plans. Maybe you could answer one or more of the following questions:
1) How large is your Leonardo team now?
2) Will you continue to operate from the USA?
3) Does Leonardo plan to go in production totally independent now?
4) Do you still plan an announcement in Stockholm soon?
Thanks
Andre
Dear Andrea Rossi,
So, you’re referring to something newer than this IH patent published in Feb. 2016?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0051957.html
Sincerely,
Mark
Dear Dr. Rossi,
Unbelievable that IH would do this application with a straight face! To be clear, were you informed of the filing or the publication of the patent? To the uninformed readers: there can be some time passed between the two.
Best Regards,
John
Dear Andrea Rossi:
I have seen a tenth of patent applications made by Industrial Heat , with you as the inventor:
1- did you authorize the international patent applications and the EPO applications they made ?
2- I noticed that their patent applications confirm that they made the tests, replicating your Effect: therefore they are lying when they say that no replication have made
3- they have put in their applications a certain “Thomas Barker” as the co-inventor: but all the patent applications that have him as the co-inventor describe in all the apparatus and the method that have been described in all your prior papers, tests, third independent party validation tests, patent applications: it seems that the unique thing that they have invented is the “co-Inventor”. This is frauds uopon frauds against you, or am I wrong ? Is this a replay of the Meucci- Bell history ?
Thank you for answering,
Cheers,
Maurizio
Marie:
So, you ask me how a plant that works can be turned into a plant that does not work? You know, sometime we of Leonardo Corporation are able to make miracles. I want to be generous with you and disclose the secret about how we made this miracle: sending the bill.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eldon:
I cannot comment, because this issue is matter to be disclosed in Court.
Thank you for your kind words,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Today in the internet has been published an application for a patent made by Industrial Heat, in which they copied your 1 MW plant: they result to be the Assegnee, you the inventor. They say in the text of the patent that they made it work and it works well, to the point that they have applied a patent for it. Now I understand how right you are: when they have to pay your bill, they say that they are not able to replicate your Effect, but in a document as important as is a patent application to the US Patent Office they say that the plant works well and that they made it.
If this is not a fraud, what is it ?
In past I was sceptic on you, but now I begin to understand that you are a patrimony and that we have to defend you.
Never give up,
Eldon
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Today Industrial Heat has published a patent application in the USA for a patent that is a copy of your description of the 1MW E-Cat. They say it works. But then, if it works to the point that they patent it, how can they say that they have not been able to replicate it ?
Cheers,
Marie
Matt:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Matt:
I cannot answer to this question in positive or in negative, because is related to the litigation on course.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eddy:
I cannot answer on topics related to the litigation.
Thank you for your sustain, though.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Felix Rends:
Your comment is intelligent, but my possibility to answer is very limited from the fact that you are touching in part issues that so far have to be confined in Court.
I cannot foresee what will happen in Court.
If IH will retain the license or not will be decided in Court, nowhere else.
The money of Leonardo Corporation will be employed to increase exponentially the expansion of our concern: I want to make jobs, I want to make E-Cats; I am an industrialist, not a financial speculator. We must change the actual trend: industry must have finance at his service, not the vice versa, if we really want to make jobs and really we want a more equally distributed richness in our society.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sal:
Thank you for your kind words. I have been in Australia: what a beautiful place!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea:
I just want to say that all the persons around me are your followers against IH. But what about Woodford ? Have they been involved in the scheme?
Eddy
Giuseppe:
I do not nderstand: which comment are you referring to? Nobody here has commented Italian justice and I have total respect for the Justice of every Country.
Please indicate me the wrong comment, I will erase it, but I am not finding it!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
i’m a little bit disappointed reading here some comments regarding the italian justice and the distorted way of how others see Italy.
In particular, they say that is corruptible, and that you can not believe in it.
In Italy we definitely have a lot of problems, first of all to not knowing how to retain and leverage brains like your.
On Justice i can definitely say that it is slow and has too many levels of courts, but to say that is corruptible I consider it out of place.
Regards, Giuseppe
Dear Andrea Rossi:
The great community of Italian Emigrates in Australia backs you spiritually: win for us agaist those sharks ! And when your E-Cats will arrive in Australia we will be proud to buy them.
Go, Andrea, never give up !!!
At this point is there any possibility of you and IH reconciling outside of court and continuing your work together?
Without the 89 million from IH, how will you start the industrialization process? Do you have another source of financing?
Dear Andrea Rossi, I dont want to comment here on the law case (if you are interested in my opinion you can read it here https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2990-Why-Cherokee-changed-its-tune/?postID=16593#post16593 ) but my question is, what is your future plan and what will happen if Industrial Heat pays the 89 Million $US? Does this mean, that they have fulfilled the contract and have the licences for the areas named in the contract and then business as usual, or what?
I know business is often hard, especially if there is a dispute, but in this special case, that reminds me to a blog buster thriller, I wonder if you see any basis for a cooperation with an licensee Industrial Heat in the future?
(by the way, if there will be a movie about your story in the future I would recommend Luc Besson director 😉
Don:
The litigation on course will not slower our expansion, not even a bit of it.
Thank you for your kind words.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gian Luca:
No.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
Thank you for the interesting link, but, about it, let me say that I am not a superman, I am only a strong worker that wants not his work to be stolen, the others are not inferior people ( inferior people do not exist), but persons that want to get what they have not paid. Zarathustra has nothing to do with it.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
James Rovnak:
Thank you for the suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gherardo:
Thank you for your sympathy.
I cannot answer to your question, because related to the litigation on course.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
dear Andrea th Rossi I have been following the e cat story now for 5 years and have placed an order for 4 e-cat home heating units. will the law suite with I.H. have any effect on the sale of the home e-cats for heating? have the results of the 350 day test been released to the public ?
best of luck in court
Don
Yes, I think we are going to get it.
Thank you for your kind words and insight.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gio:
No.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Luis Navarro:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.