Dr Andrea Rossi:
In Japan your effect has been repeatedly replicated!
See below:
Interim Report for the H28 fiscal year of H-27-29 program
R&D Subjective: Leading Program for Energy and Environment
Sub-theme: Analysis and control of new thermal energy by metal-hydrogen
interaction
Reporters: The 6 parties of teams from Technova Inc., Nissan Motors Co, Kyushu University,
Tohoku University, Nagoya University and Kobe University
To re-confirm and obtain basic data on the previously claimed anomalously high-energydensity
heat release effect (AHE) by the interaction of hydrogen gas and Ni-based nanometal
composite samples, the following program was implemented by the 6 parties for the
H28(2016 Oct to 2017 March) period. The target to obtain thermal energy density more than
2 MJ/mol-H has been cleared with much enhanced energy density (ca. 200 MJ/mol-D for
instance), by collaboration studies for CNS (Cu-Ni/ silica), CNZ(Cu-Ni/zirconia) and PNZ
(Pd-Ni/zirconia) series samples at 200-300 degree C operation temperatures.
1) New experimental calorimetry system (new MHE facility) for metal hydrogen-gas
interaction was installed in June H28 in Tohoku University, and the initial running tests in
July and implemented the first experiment with PNZ-type sample to observe and confirm
the previously claimed Technova-Kobe results of AHE, with less than 1.5% error in
calorimetry. The new experimental system was totally established in August 2016 (H28).
Collaboration study by the 6 parties was implemented with 10 test experiments in the
H28 period, using the MHE facilities at Kobe University and Tohoku University, for
metal nano-composite samples which were fabricated by the meltspinning/oxidation
technique to have provided PNZ-type and CNZ-type samples.
PS-type (Pd /silica) and CNS-type samples provided by the wet technique at
Kyushu University, Nagoya University and Kobe University were also tested. AHE
phenomena were observed in most experiments except for using PS-type samples.
Observed AHE data showed ca. 5-200 MJ/mol-H(or D for PNZ-type) level high
thermal energy density for several days sustaining power (ca.4-20 W level) .
Material analyses by XRD, SEM and STEM/EDS for every sample before and after the hydrogencharge
run have been done by the 6 parties. Interesting nano-structure data have been obtained
in the view of controlling the sustainable AHE phenomena of nano-composite metal and
hydrogen gas interaction. http://www.nedo.go.jp/library/seika/shosai_201706/20170000000288.html
Dear Andrea,
Today Dutch and Belgian scientist published an article in Nature that described a new found phenomenon. It seems that liquid metals can be used to protect (hot fusion) reactor walls against heat and particle radiation. Maybe you are already satisfied with your solution, but here is the link: https://www.differ.nl/news/metal-vapour-to-protect-fusion-reactor-walls.
Kind regards, Gerard
1) You will build E-Cat QX plants manually before automated production begins, even though they will be more expensive?
2) You have orders to build these manual plants starting in 2017?
Have you decided on a location for the October Ecat Qx demonstration? Will it be at your Leonardo Florida location or at an independent site? It would be great to invite your long time supporters, who witnessed your 2011 bologna University demonstration on the web, in a location such as a university auditorium. I wish you continued success with the demonstration and fast forward to a commercial product
Tom Conover:
What I meant is that to complete the process of industrialization is necessary more R&D for the many complex issues that have to be resolved. If your question is: “when the heck will start this hecking industrialization?” the answer is: I can guess within 2018. In the meantime industrial plants will be made, albeit at higher costs and prices compared to a massive production. This is, as far as I know, an honest answer.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I recall that you hope to industrialize the production late 2017 or early 2018, from earlier posts. That is great and inspires your readers and scientists throughout the world in fact.
Thank you again for the time you take to respond in this blog. It is very unusual to find such an open attitude about research in this complex world we live in. Re your reply earlier: ‘Proceed the R&D finalized to the industrialization.’ is hard for me to understand, sorry.
Perhaps you could help me out with these two questions.
A) Do you think the R&D will become finalized (by November 15,2017 or sooner) for the first product launch immediately if the presentation in October this year if the R&D is now acceptable to investors? (Y/N)
B) Do you think the manufacturing begin immediately (before April of 2018 or sooner) if the presentation in October this year is successful in getting one or more large investors? (Y/N)
Thank you for your kindness if you can answer these questions to help me to understand better!
Kerry:
Very difficult an answer, but I can tell you that there are several probabilities out of one hundred that neutrinos play some role. I have a doubt, but I am afraid to talk of it because I could be skinned alive. The cross section is very tiny.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Michael S.:
First and foremost, thank you for your kindness and attention to our work.
Answer: the energy consumed will be measured AFTER the power source, which means between the power source and the E-Cat !
From where arrives the energy to the power source or IN it doesn’t matter to the COP: what matters is only the amount of it. If it arrives from a battery, or a series of batteries, or a multiple sandwich of batteries, or from a magician, or from the grid, therefore from a dam, or a nuclear plant, or a thermoelectric plant, or yourself in parallel and series with friends of yours rubbing frenziedly, even with the help of me hidden behind black courtains, a stock of amber sticks, it couldn’t affect the COP. What counts is how many Wh/h arrive to the E-Cat, not their origin.
About the plat you suggest, it will be fun when the E-Cat will go commercial.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
First off all congrats for settling your lawsuit with IH – These legal procedures drain much spiritual capacity and you need all of it for much more important things.
I dont know if this has already been discussed but could I suggest you to do a public « Hot coffee off the grid demonstration », maybe in parallel to the more scientific one you are planning.
From what I read in your recent posts Ecat QX could go off the grid working with 2 x 12V batteries. In order to convince the public that there is no manipulation (big 12V batteries could be fiddled with and have quite some W/h in storage – see hereunder) I suggest the setup could be 3 x 9 volt alkaline or lithium–ion batteries in line feeding 27V Dc. The total Watt/h in a standard alkaline 9V batteries is about 500ma x 9 = 4,5 Wh. With three such batteries in line you would have a total of max 13,5 Wh at your disposal which is maybe enough to power the Ecat QX(’s). It needs about 600 W/h to cook the Bialetti 12 cups of coffee (775 Milliliters; https://www.amazon.com/Original-Bialetti-Stovetop-Espresso-Patented/dp/B000FDL588 ). So there is no way these three 9V batteries could boil this coffee if not thanks to the ecat-heat.
Max energy content in a 9V battery : it weighs 35-45 grams. Max energy content if Lithium Ion bat. is 300 W/h/KG x 0,045 = 13,5 W/h (I presume +-same mass weight of chemistries). 3 batteries in line therefore +-40 W/h => still far off 600W/h needed to cook the coffee.
Max energy content in 12V battery : 12V 45 Amp lead-acid battery stores 540 Wh. Two in line store 1080 W/h. Its much more with Lithium ion of the same size. So you could be able to cook the 775 milliliters coffee at least with lithium Ion battery and induction plates.
You could invite your guests to a very special Italian coffee which will be remembered.… If nicely/professionally filmed and edited it would make for a Video capsule that could go viral on youtube.
You could ask your guests to bring new sealed 9V Alkaline packs with them and then use randomly three of these.
If you like the idea and it is realistic dont publish it, but I would love to be invited to such a historic moment ;-). And of course meet and exchange ideas with you !
All the best in these coming months & best regards,
1. Use a Stenner Peristatic pump running at 17 gpd or 0.7448 ml/sec
2. Assume +75C temperature change (inlet temperature around 20C) for the water
3. Power needed = 75C * 4.184 J/(K*ml) * 0.7448 ml / sec = 233W of thermal power
4. Assume maximum ECAT-QX output of 23W, so 10 reactors running in parallel from a single controller.
WaltC:
The temperature of the E-Cat QX reaches above the mass of neutrinos, therefore, theoretically, in the fields of neutrinos waves could be formed corresponding to neutrinos and antineutrinos ( antimatter ).
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Back on the topic of neutrinos– according to your current LENR theory, do you think that LENR might produce neutrinos?
It seems possible; one of the dominant reactions in the sun is: 2 protons –> deuteron + positron + electron neutrino.
If so, the E-Cat QX could become a highly compact device for generating neutrinos, which could have all sorts of interesting applications (especially given the newly announced low energy neutrino detection device).
Interesting to think about, at the least.
Thanks, WaltC
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Here is another replication of the Rossi Effect made in Japan:
Google “interim report for the H 28 fiscal year of H-27-29 program”.
Cheers,
Mark
Dr Andrea Rossi:
To measure the amount of energy that flows in a circuit composed by the power source and two resistances of which one has a known ohmage and one has not, you have to measure the voltage across the known R and once you have the voltage, you make V/R and you have the amps. Then, making V x A, you know how much energy you have in the circuit. By the first principle of thermodynamics, the energy cannot be more than that in any point of the circuit, but it can be less if the resistances dissipate energy in form of heat.
Is it this you are doing?
Cheers
Early E-Cat designs had a resistor heating the charge, triggering the reaction.
Now it seems that the ECat QX has the resistor in series with the charge.
It seems that the resistor act as a current limiter and the charge is mostly metallic, with low resistance.
So it seems that the reaction is now triggered by electrical current flowing in the charge.
The old mechanism was triggered by heat, so I suppose that a part of the reaction is triggered by resistor heat, a part from direct resistive heat of the charge and (this is new) a part from direct electrical current flowing in the charge.
Old ECat was stimulated by “frequencies”, that indeed produced induced currents in the charge, but AC, so the only difference is than now the current in the charge is DC (a DC current can’t be induced by coils)
1) Am I correct saying that the QX is in series with the 1 ohm resistor and the charge resistance is very low?
2) Is the electrical current in the charge the main stimulation source for the reaction?
3) In what percentage?
4) Is DC current in the charge more effective (in terms of COP, stability, etc) than induced AC current?
5) Further thoughts?
Jack:
The direct attendance will be restricted to invitations, but everybody interested will be able to see the demo in the internet.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Colin Watters:
We always have detectors where we put in operation the E-Cats. Obviously the operation of the E-Cats is safe. We got the safety certifications.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
some time ago, you wrote that SSM mode was not used in E-Cat QX.
Now I remember that you wrote somewhere that SSM is used 2/3 of the cycle of the E-Cat QX
Is this new or improved design ? Is it stable and robust like QX without SSM ? Doesn’t is complicate the power control system in the longer terms ?
It would be nice if you could say something about this.
Dr. Rossi:
The question by Mario Mariani is valid if and only if the load is resistive, for example before the E-Cat QX enters the excited state. There the load resistance may be negative, or the QX better modeled as a current source negative in comparison to that flowing into a resistive load. Is the voltage drop across the 1 ohm positive or negative? If the latter, the battery would be recharged at 0.105 amps into 24 volts, or 2.52 watts.
Dear Andrea,
for the October presentation did you engage a professional team with experts in communication that will take care of every things or will be your team that take care of the event.
Regards, Giuseppe
Frank Acland:
1- “manually” is not the proper definition, more precisely I would say “not with automated systems”
2- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gerard McEk:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
Also today in good standing.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
This comes after the allowing of my US patent also in Japan.
Positive.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
In Japan your effect has been repeatedly replicated!
See below:
Interim Report for the H28 fiscal year of H-27-29 program
R&D Subjective: Leading Program for Energy and Environment
Sub-theme: Analysis and control of new thermal energy by metal-hydrogen
interaction
Reporters: The 6 parties of teams from Technova Inc., Nissan Motors Co, Kyushu University,
Tohoku University, Nagoya University and Kobe University
To re-confirm and obtain basic data on the previously claimed anomalously high-energydensity
heat release effect (AHE) by the interaction of hydrogen gas and Ni-based nanometal
composite samples, the following program was implemented by the 6 parties for the
H28(2016 Oct to 2017 March) period. The target to obtain thermal energy density more than
2 MJ/mol-H has been cleared with much enhanced energy density (ca. 200 MJ/mol-D for
instance), by collaboration studies for CNS (Cu-Ni/ silica), CNZ(Cu-Ni/zirconia) and PNZ
(Pd-Ni/zirconia) series samples at 200-300 degree C operation temperatures.
1) New experimental calorimetry system (new MHE facility) for metal hydrogen-gas
interaction was installed in June H28 in Tohoku University, and the initial running tests in
July and implemented the first experiment with PNZ-type sample to observe and confirm
the previously claimed Technova-Kobe results of AHE, with less than 1.5% error in
calorimetry. The new experimental system was totally established in August 2016 (H28).
Collaboration study by the 6 parties was implemented with 10 test experiments in the
H28 period, using the MHE facilities at Kobe University and Tohoku University, for
metal nano-composite samples which were fabricated by the meltspinning/oxidation
technique to have provided PNZ-type and CNZ-type samples.
PS-type (Pd /silica) and CNS-type samples provided by the wet technique at
Kyushu University, Nagoya University and Kobe University were also tested. AHE
phenomena were observed in most experiments except for using PS-type samples.
Observed AHE data showed ca. 5-200 MJ/mol-H(or D for PNZ-type) level high
thermal energy density for several days sustaining power (ca.4-20 W level) .
Material analyses by XRD, SEM and STEM/EDS for every sample before and after the hydrogencharge
run have been done by the 6 parties. Interesting nano-structure data have been obtained
in the view of controlling the sustainable AHE phenomena of nano-composite metal and
hydrogen gas interaction.
http://www.nedo.go.jp/library/seika/shosai_201706/20170000000288.html
Update?
Dear Andrea,
Today Dutch and Belgian scientist published an article in Nature that described a new found phenomenon. It seems that liquid metals can be used to protect (hot fusion) reactor walls against heat and particle radiation. Maybe you are already satisfied with your solution, but here is the link: https://www.differ.nl/news/metal-vapour-to-protect-fusion-reactor-walls.
Kind regards, Gerard
Dear Andrea,
Does your answer to Tom Conover below mean that:
1) You will build E-Cat QX plants manually before automated production begins, even though they will be more expensive?
2) You have orders to build these manual plants starting in 2017?
Thank you,
Frank Acland
Drew G.:
Not yet.
We will make possible for everybody to see the demo in the internet.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tom Conover:
Thank you!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
The answer is perfect. You are still light years ahead of the pack.
Thank you!
Tom Conover
Dr. Rossi:
Have you decided on a location for the October Ecat Qx demonstration? Will it be at your Leonardo Florida location or at an independent site? It would be great to invite your long time supporters, who witnessed your 2011 bologna University demonstration on the web, in a location such as a university auditorium. I wish you continued success with the demonstration and fast forward to a commercial product
Tom Conover:
What I meant is that to complete the process of industrialization is necessary more R&D for the many complex issues that have to be resolved. If your question is: “when the heck will start this hecking industrialization?” the answer is: I can guess within 2018. In the meantime industrial plants will be made, albeit at higher costs and prices compared to a massive production. This is, as far as I know, an honest answer.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rodney Nicholson:
Thank you!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Andrea,
I recall that you hope to industrialize the production late 2017 or early 2018, from earlier posts. That is great and inspires your readers and scientists throughout the world in fact.
Thank you again for the time you take to respond in this blog. It is very unusual to find such an open attitude about research in this complex world we live in. Re your reply earlier: ‘Proceed the R&D finalized to the industrialization.’ is hard for me to understand, sorry.
Perhaps you could help me out with these two questions.
A) Do you think the R&D will become finalized (by November 15,2017 or sooner) for the first product launch immediately if the presentation in October this year if the R&D is now acceptable to investors? (Y/N)
B) Do you think the manufacturing begin immediately (before April of 2018 or sooner) if the presentation in October this year is successful in getting one or more large investors? (Y/N)
Thank you for your kindness if you can answer these questions to help me to understand better!
Warm Regards,
Tom
I just tripped over the material at the following link which readers of this blog may find entertaining and not without relevance to LENR:
http://amasci.com/weird/skepquot.html
Rodney Nicholson.
Kerry:
Very difficult an answer, but I can tell you that there are several probabilities out of one hundred that neutrinos play some role. I have a doubt, but I am afraid to talk of it because I could be skinned alive. The cross section is very tiny.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dvorak:
Proceed the R&D finalized to the industrialization.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
The October demo will be 100% a success: what will happen then?
Dr Andrea Rossi:
Do you think neutrinos can have a role in the so called Rossi Effect?
Steven N. Karels:
Thank you for the suggestions, but I think we have better than that.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
About tennis or E-Cat QX?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Alessandro Coppi:
Thank you.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Michael S.:
First and foremost, thank you for your kindness and attention to our work.
Answer: the energy consumed will be measured AFTER the power source, which means between the power source and the E-Cat !
From where arrives the energy to the power source or IN it doesn’t matter to the COP: what matters is only the amount of it. If it arrives from a battery, or a series of batteries, or a multiple sandwich of batteries, or from a magician, or from the grid, therefore from a dam, or a nuclear plant, or a thermoelectric plant, or yourself in parallel and series with friends of yours rubbing frenziedly, even with the help of me hidden behind black courtains, a stock of amber sticks, it couldn’t affect the COP. What counts is how many Wh/h arrive to the E-Cat, not their origin.
About the plat you suggest, it will be fun when the E-Cat will go commercial.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
First off all congrats for settling your lawsuit with IH – These legal procedures drain much spiritual capacity and you need all of it for much more important things.
I dont know if this has already been discussed but could I suggest you to do a public « Hot coffee off the grid demonstration », maybe in parallel to the more scientific one you are planning.
From what I read in your recent posts Ecat QX could go off the grid working with 2 x 12V batteries. In order to convince the public that there is no manipulation (big 12V batteries could be fiddled with and have quite some W/h in storage – see hereunder) I suggest the setup could be 3 x 9 volt alkaline or lithium–ion batteries in line feeding 27V Dc. The total Watt/h in a standard alkaline 9V batteries is about 500ma x 9 = 4,5 Wh. With three such batteries in line you would have a total of max 13,5 Wh at your disposal which is maybe enough to power the Ecat QX(’s). It needs about 600 W/h to cook the Bialetti 12 cups of coffee (775 Milliliters; https://www.amazon.com/Original-Bialetti-Stovetop-Espresso-Patented/dp/B000FDL588 ). So there is no way these three 9V batteries could boil this coffee if not thanks to the ecat-heat.
Max energy content in a 9V battery : it weighs 35-45 grams. Max energy content if Lithium Ion bat. is 300 W/h/KG x 0,045 = 13,5 W/h (I presume +-same mass weight of chemistries). 3 batteries in line therefore +-40 W/h => still far off 600W/h needed to cook the coffee.
Max energy content in 12V battery : 12V 45 Amp lead-acid battery stores 540 Wh. Two in line store 1080 W/h. Its much more with Lithium ion of the same size. So you could be able to cook the 775 milliliters coffee at least with lithium Ion battery and induction plates.
You could invite your guests to a very special Italian coffee which will be remembered.… If nicely/professionally filmed and edited it would make for a Video capsule that could go viral on youtube.
You could ask your guests to bring new sealed 9V Alkaline packs with them and then use randomly three of these.
If you like the idea and it is realistic dont publish it, but I would love to be invited to such a historic moment ;-). And of course meet and exchange ideas with you !
All the best in these coming months & best regards,
Michael S.
Hi Andrea,
In the public test session that you are preparing, the choice to use a resistance to calculate the Amper, is correct.
Update?
Dear Andrea Rossi,
A point design for your October demonstration
1. Use a Stenner Peristatic pump running at 17 gpd or 0.7448 ml/sec
2. Assume +75C temperature change (inlet temperature around 20C) for the water
3. Power needed = 75C * 4.184 J/(K*ml) * 0.7448 ml / sec = 233W of thermal power
4. Assume maximum ECAT-QX output of 23W, so 10 reactors running in parallel from a single controller.
WaltC:
The temperature of the E-Cat QX reaches above the mass of neutrinos, therefore, theoretically, in the fields of neutrinos waves could be formed corresponding to neutrinos and antineutrinos ( antimatter ).
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Back on the topic of neutrinos– according to your current LENR theory, do you think that LENR might produce neutrinos?
It seems possible; one of the dominant reactions in the sun is: 2 protons –> deuteron + positron + electron neutrino.
If so, the E-Cat QX could become a highly compact device for generating neutrinos, which could have all sorts of interesting applications (especially given the newly announced low energy neutrino detection device).
Interesting to think about, at the least.
Thanks, WaltC
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Here is another replication of the Rossi Effect made in Japan:
Google “interim report for the H 28 fiscal year of H-27-29 program”.
Cheers,
Mark
Anonymous:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
To measure the amount of energy that flows in a circuit composed by the power source and two resistances of which one has a known ohmage and one has not, you have to measure the voltage across the known R and once you have the voltage, you make V/R and you have the amps. Then, making V x A, you know how much energy you have in the circuit. By the first principle of thermodynamics, the energy cannot be more than that in any point of the circuit, but it can be less if the resistances dissipate energy in form of heat.
Is it this you are doing?
Cheers
JPR:
We contiue our path toward Sigma 5.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Marco:
All your questions are related to confidential issues.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
Dear Andrea,
Early E-Cat designs had a resistor heating the charge, triggering the reaction.
Now it seems that the ECat QX has the resistor in series with the charge.
It seems that the resistor act as a current limiter and the charge is mostly metallic, with low resistance.
So it seems that the reaction is now triggered by electrical current flowing in the charge.
The old mechanism was triggered by heat, so I suppose that a part of the reaction is triggered by resistor heat, a part from direct resistive heat of the charge and (this is new) a part from direct electrical current flowing in the charge.
Old ECat was stimulated by “frequencies”, that indeed produced induced currents in the charge, but AC, so the only difference is than now the current in the charge is DC (a DC current can’t be induced by coils)
1) Am I correct saying that the QX is in series with the 1 ohm resistor and the charge resistance is very low?
2) Is the electrical current in the charge the main stimulation source for the reaction?
3) In what percentage?
4) Is DC current in the charge more effective (in terms of COP, stability, etc) than induced AC current?
5) Further thoughts?
Regards,
Marco.
Chris:
R&D will never be stopped, as well as the productivity development.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jack:
The direct attendance will be restricted to invitations, but everybody interested will be able to see the demo in the internet.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Giuseppe:
Yes, we’ll have professionals.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Donald Anderson:
We are not recharging any battery.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Colin Watters:
We always have detectors where we put in operation the E-Cats. Obviously the operation of the E-Cats is safe. We got the safety certifications.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Koen Vandewalle:
It has been an improvement.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
some time ago, you wrote that SSM mode was not used in E-Cat QX.
Now I remember that you wrote somewhere that SSM is used 2/3 of the cycle of the E-Cat QX
Is this new or improved design ? Is it stable and robust like QX without SSM ? Doesn’t is complicate the power control system in the longer terms ?
It would be nice if you could say something about this.
Kind Regards,
Koen
Dr Rossi,
Will it be safe to attend your demo in October? Will you have detectors present?
Dr. Rossi:
The question by Mario Mariani is valid if and only if the load is resistive, for example before the E-Cat QX enters the excited state. There the load resistance may be negative, or the QX better modeled as a current source negative in comparison to that flowing into a resistive load. Is the voltage drop across the 1 ohm positive or negative? If the latter, the battery would be recharged at 0.105 amps into 24 volts, or 2.52 watts.
Dear Andrea,
for the October presentation did you engage a professional team with experts in communication that will take care of every things or will be your team that take care of the event.
Regards, Giuseppe
Dr Andrea Rossi:
The attendance to the demo will be open or restricted to invitations?
Dear Mr Rossi,
if an industry should be able to buy an Ecat QX in 2018: when is it planned to go from R&D to productivity development?
Mario Marini:
Exactly.
Warm Regards,
A.R.