Is the power consumption of the control system affected when you combine multiple E-Cat QX units together (you have mentioned you can run 100 QXs from one controller)?
Dear Andrea,
Just a few questions, if you allow me.
1. For the demo in October you have been testing the E-cat QX20 cluster for some time now. Are you satisfied with their multiple performance?
2. You have said that the E-cat QX has a very low resistance. From control point of view I would assume that you operate a cluster with all QX’s in series. I that assumption correct?
3. Is reaching 5 sigma essential for the demonstration?
4. Is cluster testing a part of the 5 sigma test?
I hope you and your team can soon selebrate the succesful finish of the 5 sigma test!
Kind regards, Gerard
Alain:
Science is a descriptive enterprise, not a prescrictive one. If my effect has been replicated, as it has, it is not scientifically correct to say that LENR cannot exist.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Greg:
I just made analogies, but attention, they are very superficial, just to supply a model of something that expressed rigorously is too complicated to be understood by persons that do not have a university background of Physics. Such models can be misleading.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
You mentioned that you were working on reducing the power consumption of the control system.
At the upcoming demonstration, would it be possible to measure and reveal the power consumption of the control system in a way that does not reveal any data that you want to keep confidential?
Frank Acland:
No.
Superconductivity is a completely different thing.
Obviously my “zero” was not absolute, it was jargon for good conductor ( otherwise I wouldn’t write it in letters). I just wanted to say that it is a good conductor, like copper, so that its resistance ( that cannot be R = 0 ) does not affect the circuit.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rick:
Tom Conover has reminded me what I wrote in past ( I had forgot ).
Let me try something maybe simpler.
Imagine a lake inside a big sphere wherein vacuum has been made.
Inside these sphere you have, floating upon the surface of the lake, sailboats. Some of the boats have big sails, some no sails at all ( forgot them at home), some small sails.
Until there is the vacuum and perfect still, you have a perfect symmetry, every boat moves as every one else, same speed, same energy. Symmetry!
Now imagine this: for some reasons ( for example the wrath of gods ) air enters in the sphere, vacuum is lost and physical effects are introduced, like differences of temperature, pressure, electricity. All symmetries are broken and every break of a symmetry generates particular fields, like electromagnetic field, temperature field, pressure field…and Higgs field. Every field gives birth to forces, for example temperature makes hot air go up, cold air go down, e.m. makes positive charges go one way, negative the opposite, lower pressure makes objects get loose, high pressure makes objects get closer, etc. The Higgs makes the small sailed boats don’t give a dam about it, the big sailed boats get stuck in it, becoming massive, because they now are subject to the wind and “feel” their mass.
Put this in analogy with electromagnetic fields , strong force fields, weak force fields and gravitational fields with the elementary particles and remember that these models are very superficial. Obviously “temperature fields” do not exist, as well as pressure fields and, most of all, they do not generate what in Physics is rigorously considered a “force”. But I hope the model can help to understand what is Simmetry and what means to break a Simmetry and why it is so important. In nuclear Physics we have four fudsamental fields that when their symmetry is broken work as follows::
electromagnetic field, affects positive e.p. one way, negative the opposite
gravitational field, affect every e.p. the same way
strong interactions field: affects quarks and gluons
weak interactions field, affects all the fermions of the standard model and the Higgs boson
Should the symmetries not get broken, life in this Universe would be very boring. Like LENR without me. I am a simmetry breaker ( and not only symmetries).
Warm Regards,
A.R.
If elemental particles consist of waves in fields, just like wifi, then possibly the Higgs Bosons are the wifi-routers.
But what information are they transmitting ? Is there a time or place where the information is going or where it comes from ?
Can we receive or send information via the Higgs Bosons ?
@ Rick (I thought I should review too, so here is what I found.)
Here are two of Andrea’s comments on symmetry and mass for you.
———–
From: Andrea Rossi
April 17, 2017 at 8:34 AM
Jackson Sweeney:
You must make a distinction between Global Symmetry and Local Symmetry.
The G.S. is shown uniformly, everywhere, at the same time and makes
us aware of interactions on course, but its role is passive, it does
not bring new forces in the fields.
L.S. shows up separately, at every point and leads to new forces:
without it the Universe as it is could not exist, because e.p. would
remain as they are, without interactions: the life ( if any) would
be very boring. Master in local symmetry breaking is the Higgs
field, that with its waves ( Higgs Bosons) makes a storm in the
Universe Ocean, and this storm makes a mess through the fields of
the elementary particles fiving mass to some of them, rupturing
symmetries around…imagine the perfest symmetry of a cloud of black
ink cenospheres be turned into the Guernica of Picasso ! That’s life !
Warm Regards,
A.R.
———–
From: Andrea Rossi
April 4, 2017 at 7:38 AM
Minh:
I do not remember which model I described, but let’s try this, the
same of before or not as it might be: think to an empty tube filled
by clean and calm water: we’ll call it “value zero tube”, because
the water is clean and calm, there is nothing inside except the
water molecules. If you distribute grains of nanometric metal powder
uniformly on the surface of this water, the grains will sink
uniformly and symmetrically from the top to the bottom of the tube.
This is the model of a zero value field in vacuum through which
elementary particles pass through without breaking any symmetry,
without changing their status.
Now imagine to repeat the experiment in the same tube, but this time
with strong waves inside that pervade the volume of the water inside
the tube. This is the model of the Higgs field: now the tube has not
zero value, because now the water is not calm, the waves build up a
“value”. Repeat the experiment of before with the same powder, and
you’ll see that this time the grains do not sink uniformly, but they
“break the symmetry”, they are slowed down by the opposing waves,
they crash against each other, they make up bigger grains adhering
to each other: in a word, they “get mass”. As we said, the tube with
wavery water, in this case, is the model of the Higgs field, while
the waves are the models of the Higgs Bosons that arise from the
Higgs field.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
———–
Thank you Andrea!
Dear Dr Rossi:
Can you explain in your way a model how the Higgs field breaks the symmetry and gives mass to elementary particles?
You did it already years ago, but I forgot and have to explain to young kids
Thanks if you can help
Dear Andrea,
What I was trying to suggest when I indicated that GE could be helpful to your program, is that they have constructed the means to produce large quantities of small alumina tubes that are sealed and undergo high temperatures that are capable of thousands of hours of use. I assume that they use an automated line for their production. They may be able to either aid you in the assembly of your production line, or perhaps construct your device in large quantities with a high degree of quality control.
Product assurance regards.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Your measurement system to define the wattage in the circuit of the E-Cat QX, made by a power source plus 2 resistances is correct: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/measuring-resistance-in-circuit-and-out/
In pag. 5 is drawn exactly the schematic of your circuit.
If the E-Cat has no resistance, the circuit becomes just a circuit with one resistance.
Godspeed
Andrea: Please delete this if you think it not a productive use of space on your blog. Thank you.
My favourite quotes from the previously linked reference:
“There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things, because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old condition, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. – Machiavelli, 1513
“If I want to stop a research program I can always do it by getting a few experts to sit in on the subject, because they know right away that it was a fool thing to try in the first place.” – Charles Kettering, GM
“The farther the experiment is from theory, the closer it is to the Nobel Prize.” – Joliet-Curie
“There are two possible outcomes: If the result confirms the hypothesis, then you’ve made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you’ve made a discovery.” -Enrico Fermi
“The altar cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next.” – Mark Twain
“I love fools’ experiments, I am always making them.” – Darwin
“The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not ‘Eureka!’ (I found it!) but ‘That’s funny…’ ” – Isaac Asimov
“Science advances funeral by funeral.” (Planck?)
“You can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back.” – Beverly Rubik
“One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.” – J. D. Watson “The Double Helix”
“As a whole, parapsychologists are nice, honest people, while the critics are cynical, nasty people” – Ray Hyman, skeptical scientist, 1985
“Only puny secrets need protection. Big discoveries are protected by public incredulity.” – Marshall McLuhan
“Don’t worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are that good, you’ll have to ram them down people’s throats.” – Howard Aiken
“A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.” – William James
“Progress in science is something like climbing a mountain. Only most mountaineers don’t set up a new basecamp every ten feet, then leap out to attack anyone who tries to climb past.” – Bill Beaty.
Dear Andrea
Have you ever consulted with GE about their work with a product they call Lucalox?
It is a material made of alumina that they form into a tube to produce a light source containing Sodium, Xenon, and a bit of Mercury that results in a high efficiency light output.
I used their material in 1965 in a project to successfully produce large quantities of Infra red using Cesium as a fill material. The tube had nickel end caps and was powered by RF energy.
GE claims long life for their device.
Best wishes for your efforts.
Successful regards
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
The kind of measurement you described for a circuit with two resistances is perfectly equal to what is taught in the schools of electrotecnic.
Cheers
Jason
Dear Andrea,
Is the power consumption of the control system affected when you combine multiple E-Cat QX units together (you have mentioned you can run 100 QXs from one controller)?
Best wishes,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea,
Just a few questions, if you allow me.
1. For the demo in October you have been testing the E-cat QX20 cluster for some time now. Are you satisfied with their multiple performance?
2. You have said that the E-cat QX has a very low resistance. From control point of view I would assume that you operate a cluster with all QX’s in series. I that assumption correct?
3. Is reaching 5 sigma essential for the demonstration?
4. Is cluster testing a part of the 5 sigma test?
I hope you and your team can soon selebrate the succesful finish of the 5 sigma test!
Kind regards, Gerard
Alain:
Science is a descriptive enterprise, not a prescrictive one. If my effect has been replicated, as it has, it is not scientifically correct to say that LENR cannot exist.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
We are doing well.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Science prescripts that LENR cannot exist.
Update?
Dr Joseph Fine:
Interesting,
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
This is a Video about Additive Printing of metal parts.
In this video the parts that are manufactured are for use in Gas Turbines.
Perhaps they could also be used in Supercritical CO2 Turbines as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBmLHDANDKM
Additive Regards,
Joseph Fine
Frank Acland:
We’ll see what we can do.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Greg:
I just made analogies, but attention, they are very superficial, just to supply a model of something that expressed rigorously is too complicated to be understood by persons that do not have a university background of Physics. Such models can be misleading.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Great comment to answer to Anonymous about Symmetry.
You have the gift to make simple very complex issues.
Dear Andrea,
You mentioned that you were working on reducing the power consumption of the control system.
At the upcoming demonstration, would it be possible to measure and reveal the power consumption of the control system in a way that does not reveal any data that you want to keep confidential?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Still on our way towards Sigma 5
Warm Regards
A.R.
Update?
Frank Acland:
No.
Superconductivity is a completely different thing.
Obviously my “zero” was not absolute, it was jargon for good conductor ( otherwise I wouldn’t write it in letters). I just wanted to say that it is a good conductor, like copper, so that its resistance ( that cannot be R = 0 ) does not affect the circuit.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Based on your comment to Prof about the resistance of the E-Cat QX, would it be accurate to say that the E-Cat QX is a superconductor?
Thank you,
Frank Acland
Rick:
Tom Conover has reminded me what I wrote in past ( I had forgot ).
Let me try something maybe simpler.
Imagine a lake inside a big sphere wherein vacuum has been made.
Inside these sphere you have, floating upon the surface of the lake, sailboats. Some of the boats have big sails, some no sails at all ( forgot them at home), some small sails.
Until there is the vacuum and perfect still, you have a perfect symmetry, every boat moves as every one else, same speed, same energy. Symmetry!
Now imagine this: for some reasons ( for example the wrath of gods ) air enters in the sphere, vacuum is lost and physical effects are introduced, like differences of temperature, pressure, electricity. All symmetries are broken and every break of a symmetry generates particular fields, like electromagnetic field, temperature field, pressure field…and Higgs field. Every field gives birth to forces, for example temperature makes hot air go up, cold air go down, e.m. makes positive charges go one way, negative the opposite, lower pressure makes objects get loose, high pressure makes objects get closer, etc. The Higgs makes the small sailed boats don’t give a dam about it, the big sailed boats get stuck in it, becoming massive, because they now are subject to the wind and “feel” their mass.
Put this in analogy with electromagnetic fields , strong force fields, weak force fields and gravitational fields with the elementary particles and remember that these models are very superficial. Obviously “temperature fields” do not exist, as well as pressure fields and, most of all, they do not generate what in Physics is rigorously considered a “force”. But I hope the model can help to understand what is Simmetry and what means to break a Simmetry and why it is so important. In nuclear Physics we have four fudsamental fields that when their symmetry is broken work as follows::
electromagnetic field, affects positive e.p. one way, negative the opposite
gravitational field, affect every e.p. the same way
strong interactions field: affects quarks and gluons
weak interactions field, affects all the fermions of the standard model and the Higgs boson
Should the symmetries not get broken, life in this Universe would be very boring. Like LENR without me. I am a simmetry breaker ( and not only symmetries).
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof:
Zero.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
We are strongly reducing the energy consumption of the control panel.
Pretty good standing.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tom Conover:
Thanks to you for remembering,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Keon Vandewalle:
125 GeV….and virtuality…
Warm Regards,
A.R.
If elemental particles consist of waves in fields, just like wifi, then possibly the Higgs Bosons are the wifi-routers.
But what information are they transmitting ? Is there a time or place where the information is going or where it comes from ?
Can we receive or send information via the Higgs Bosons ?
Best Regards,
Koen
@ Rick (I thought I should review too, so here is what I found.)
Here are two of Andrea’s comments on symmetry and mass for you.
———–
From: Andrea Rossi
April 17, 2017 at 8:34 AM
Jackson Sweeney:
You must make a distinction between Global Symmetry and Local Symmetry.
The G.S. is shown uniformly, everywhere, at the same time and makes
us aware of interactions on course, but its role is passive, it does
not bring new forces in the fields.
L.S. shows up separately, at every point and leads to new forces:
without it the Universe as it is could not exist, because e.p. would
remain as they are, without interactions: the life ( if any) would
be very boring. Master in local symmetry breaking is the Higgs
field, that with its waves ( Higgs Bosons) makes a storm in the
Universe Ocean, and this storm makes a mess through the fields of
the elementary particles fiving mass to some of them, rupturing
symmetries around…imagine the perfest symmetry of a cloud of black
ink cenospheres be turned into the Guernica of Picasso ! That’s life !
Warm Regards,
A.R.
———–
From: Andrea Rossi
April 4, 2017 at 7:38 AM
Minh:
I do not remember which model I described, but let’s try this, the
same of before or not as it might be: think to an empty tube filled
by clean and calm water: we’ll call it “value zero tube”, because
the water is clean and calm, there is nothing inside except the
water molecules. If you distribute grains of nanometric metal powder
uniformly on the surface of this water, the grains will sink
uniformly and symmetrically from the top to the bottom of the tube.
This is the model of a zero value field in vacuum through which
elementary particles pass through without breaking any symmetry,
without changing their status.
Now imagine to repeat the experiment in the same tube, but this time
with strong waves inside that pervade the volume of the water inside
the tube. This is the model of the Higgs field: now the tube has not
zero value, because now the water is not calm, the waves build up a
“value”. Repeat the experiment of before with the same powder, and
you’ll see that this time the grains do not sink uniformly, but they
“break the symmetry”, they are slowed down by the opposing waves,
they crash against each other, they make up bigger grains adhering
to each other: in a word, they “get mass”. As we said, the tube with
wavery water, in this case, is the model of the Higgs field, while
the waves are the models of the Higgs Bosons that arise from the
Higgs field.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
———–
Thank you Andrea!
Update?
Dear Dr Rossi:
Can you explain in your way a model how the Higgs field breaks the symmetry and gives mass to elementary particles?
You did it already years ago, but I forgot and have to explain to young kids
Thanks if you can help
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Which is the internal resistance of the Ecat QX?
Cheers
Prof
Anonymous:
No, I didn’t see them yet.
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
Very good standing also today,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eernie1:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
What I was trying to suggest when I indicated that GE could be helpful to your program, is that they have constructed the means to produce large quantities of small alumina tubes that are sealed and undergo high temperatures that are capable of thousands of hours of use. I assume that they use an automated line for their production. They may be able to either aid you in the assembly of your production line, or perhaps construct your device in large quantities with a high degree of quality control.
Product assurance regards.
Update?
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Did you see tha last androids robots made by ABB?
Do you think you will make use of them?
Electric Engineer:
Correct.
Warm Regards
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Your measurement system to define the wattage in the circuit of the E-Cat QX, made by a power source plus 2 resistances is correct:
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/measuring-resistance-in-circuit-and-out/
In pag. 5 is drawn exactly the schematic of your circuit.
If the E-Cat has no resistance, the circuit becomes just a circuit with one resistance.
Godspeed
JPR:
We are working well, sometimes with special checks as it will be today.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
We’ ll find a way to allow everybody to put questions for a couple of hours after the demo.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Thanks for the correction! Who will you debate with, and in what format?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Update?
Frank Acland:
I will not debate against: I will debate with.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
If there is to be a debate, who will you debate against?
Best regards,
Frank Acland
Rodney Nicholson:
Thank you very much for these pearls of wisdom.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Burt:
Yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
After the demo of October will have broadcasted by the internet, will it be possible to make a debate?
Cheers
Burt
Andrea: Please delete this if you think it not a productive use of space on your blog. Thank you.
My favourite quotes from the previously linked reference:
“There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things, because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old condition, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. – Machiavelli, 1513
“If I want to stop a research program I can always do it by getting a few experts to sit in on the subject, because they know right away that it was a fool thing to try in the first place.” – Charles Kettering, GM
“The farther the experiment is from theory, the closer it is to the Nobel Prize.” – Joliet-Curie
“There are two possible outcomes: If the result confirms the hypothesis, then you’ve made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you’ve made a discovery.” -Enrico Fermi
“The altar cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next.” – Mark Twain
“I love fools’ experiments, I am always making them.” – Darwin
“The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not ‘Eureka!’ (I found it!) but ‘That’s funny…’ ” – Isaac Asimov
“Science advances funeral by funeral.” (Planck?)
“You can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back.” – Beverly Rubik
“One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.” – J. D. Watson “The Double Helix”
“As a whole, parapsychologists are nice, honest people, while the critics are cynical, nasty people” – Ray Hyman, skeptical scientist, 1985
“Only puny secrets need protection. Big discoveries are protected by public incredulity.” – Marshall McLuhan
“Don’t worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are that good, you’ll have to ram them down people’s throats.” – Howard Aiken
“A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.” – William James
“Progress in science is something like climbing a mountain. Only most mountaineers don’t set up a new basecamp every ten feet, then leap out to attack anyone who tries to climb past.” – Bill Beaty.
I hope you like them.
Rodney Nicholson.
Frank Acland:
Maybe.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jason:
True.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eernie1:
Thank you for the suggestion.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
Have you ever consulted with GE about their work with a product they call Lucalox?
It is a material made of alumina that they form into a tube to produce a light source containing Sodium, Xenon, and a bit of Mercury that results in a high efficiency light output.
I used their material in 1965 in a project to successfully produce large quantities of Infra red using Cesium as a fill material. The tube had nickel end caps and was powered by RF energy.
GE claims long life for their device.
Best wishes for your efforts.
Successful regards
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
The kind of measurement you described for a circuit with two resistances is perfectly equal to what is taught in the schools of electrotecnic.
Cheers
Jason
Dear Andrea,
Do you expect to be building your first plants “not by automated systems” in 2017?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland