Dr Andrea Rossi:
The NRL in 2011 made in Washington a test of the E-Cat during which the reactor remained practically for the 90% of the time in SSM. An officer of the DOE gave testimony of this fact in this very blog about a year ago.
Can you talk us more about that experiment?
Thank you if you can answer,
Ray
You have shared that some in the crude oil distillation industry have or will visit you to presumably learn more about the E-Cat QX and possibly enter into a business arrangement.
Also, you have responded to Gerard McEk saying that the E-Cat QX plant you are currently constructing for industry will produce heat in the range of 100-200C.
The following link outlines the temperatures applicable to crude oil distillation, showing a peak operating temperature of about 400C. Does this support the assumption that your targeted industrial customer(s) are not in the oil refinery industry?
Again, thank you for your willingness to share.
My best,
Arjen:
As I always said, all the energy sources must be integrated. When you give data related to solar, you always must consider that the efficiency is not a number, but an integral wherein it is in function of the sun irradiation.
This said, congratulations to the Chilean solar industry!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
In last week’s energy auction, Chile accepted a bid from Spanish developer Solarpack Corp. Tecnologica for 120 megawatts of solar at the stunning price of $29.10 per megawatt-hour (2.91 cents per kilowatt-hour or kwh). This beats the 2.99 cents/kwh bid Dubai received recently for 800 megawatts. For context, the average residential price for electricity in the United States is 12 cents per kilowatt-hour.
Will the ecat qx be as competitive as above offer?
Dear Andrea,
It is exciting to hear that you have already started to construct plants of a considerable capacity (> 1MW). Please allow me to ask some questions about it:
1. You will deliver energy and I assume it will be heat energy. Is that right?
2. If so will it be a. low level heat (100-200 C); b. medium level heat (200-600 C) or c. > 600 C?
3. May these also plants be used as a demonstration facility for the E-cat QX if everything goes well?
Thanks.
Kind regards, Gerard
Dr Joseph Fine:
We are working with the E-Cat. So far we do not know if Irma will hit Florida, anyway we are prepared, as I suppose most of people here in Florida.We are prepared for the worst, hoping for the best.
Thank you very much for your kind concern from my Team and me.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
While you continue progress toward Sigma-5, you must certainly be aware that Hurricane Irma, a very dangerous Category-5 Hurricane, is heading in the direction of Florida.
My/(Our familly’s) best wishes for the safety of you and your team during the next several days and weeks.
Have you protected yourself and your crew, the facility equipment and the E-Cat QX system itself? Or in other words, do you think the E-Cat QX system will be able to operate during the arival and departure of IRMA…..
Can you reduce power output for 24 hours without impacting the SIGMA-5 test?
Be well, stay safe and, following the storm, Full Speed Ahead!
Frank Acland:
Slow. The reason is: to resolve with calm all the unavoidable problems that will come up. The model is the strategy of George Washington during the Independence war: he has been enormously and repeatedly criticized for his continue delay of the important crucial battles, but he accepted the fight only when he was sure his heroic voluntary patriots were ready to fight against the professional forces of the United Kingdom.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I read the last Gullstrom -Rossi paper on Arxiv. Very interesting, I think that the spin polarizability could help to understand better the LENR.
Godspeed,
Jason
Very interesting that you have agreements to build plants already.
a) Have you started building them yet?
b) When do you expect to have them completed?
c) Will you be selling the plant, or selling energy with these first plants?
Dear Andrea,
With the insight you have now in how the LENR process works, do you believe that it will change the future insight of atom physics and astro-physics?
Thanks and kind regards, Gerard
Lucio Martini:
Thank you for your insight, that is interesting and there is no reason not to publish it. I have studied the possibility to couple the E-Cats with the Rankine cycle technology. I did it thoroughly in 2012 with an engineer that manufactures Rankine boilers.
We arrived to the conclusion that the Carnot cycle is 5% more efficient even with optimal data from the E-Cat. Rankine is better at lower temperatures, but at 550 C is not competitive.
Disclaimer: I am talking of 2012 and I am not informed about improvements that can have been made in the last 5 years. If you operate in the field and want to make proposals, I am curious and I am here: info@leonardocorp1996.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Caro Ing. Rossi
la pregherei di non pubblicare questa mia riflessione, comunque lascio a lei la decisione.
Cerco di darle qui la motivazione da ingegnere a ingegnere della difficoltà ad ottenere il ciclo di Carnot con il vapore e quindi la necessità di adottare il ciclo Rankine. Sarebbe più semplice e più facilmente comprensibile se le potessi disegnare il tutto.
Se lei vorrà disegnare il rettangolo del ciclo di Carnot sotto la campana di Andrews con coordinate T/S (Temperatura/Entropia) iniziando dal punto più alto (per temperatura e pressione) alla sinistra (inizio vaporizzazione ad alta pressione) riscaldando raggiungerà, muovendosi orizzontalmente la completa vaporizzazione (con una trasformazione isotermica), quindi scenderà con una traformazione a entropia costante, riducendo la pressione e la temperatura raggiungendo la temperatura più bassa del ciclo. A questo punto inizia la condensazione che sarà a temperatura costante. Condensazione che dovrebbe arrestarsi, sotto la verticale del primo punto, alla stessa entropia dello stesso primo punto. Da lì il ciclo deve completarsi con una trasformazione a entropia costante, muovendosi in verticale aumentando di pressione e temperatura.
Ebbene in questo ultimo punto si ha vapore umido, (circa 10% vapore e 90% acqua) ed è difficile arrestare la condensazione (direi impossibile) inoltre pompare il vapore umido dalla bassa pressione alla pressione iniziale distruggerebbe il compressore nel giro di poche ore.
Si deve pertanto condensare completamente il vapore trasformandolo completamente in acqua e pomparla fino al primo punto, in modo da riprendere il ciclo. In tal modo si ha il ciclo di Rankine. Con rendimento certamente inferiore al ciclo di Carnot. Tuttavia con uno o due surriscaldamenti il rendimento migliora arrivando a un 35%.
If you want to draw the rectangle of the Carnot cycle under the Andrews bell with T / S (Temperature / Entropy) coordinates starting from the highest point (for high temperature and pressure) to the left (start vaporization of high pressure) heating you will reach, moving horizontally, complete vaporization (with an isothermal transformation), then you will come down with a constant entropy transformation, reducing the pressure and temperature reaching the lowest temperature of the cycle. At this point, the condensation begins at a constant temperature. Condensation that should stop, under the vertical of the first point of the cycle, to the same entropy of the same first point. From there, the cycle must be completed with a constant entropy transformation, moving vertically by increasing pressure and temperature. Well at this third point you have wet steam (about 10% steam and 90% water) and it is difficult to stop the condensation (I think imposible), in addiction pump the wet steam from the low pressure to the initial pressure would destroy the compressor within a few hours. You must therefore completely condense the steam by turning it completely into water and pump it up to the first point, so that you can resume the cycle. This is how the Rankine cycle is. With performance certainly lower than the Carnot cycle. However, with one or two overheating, the performance improves more or less until 35%.
Con immutata stima.
Lucio Martini
Frank Acland:
Premature to answer.
Sharks are around ( especially the most vociferous competitors, whose vociferity is inversally proportional to their capacity to make something real by themselves, otherwise they’d have not time to vociferate ) waiting for the availability of our products to copy them. It is true that our patents cover our IP, but litigations have a huge cost. The best protection will be our economy scale. This makes unlikely that we will put for sale our mass products before we will have completed the industrialization of the manufacturing, to put for sale the E-Cat at a price able to restrain the competition from the beginning. We will continue to sell only big industrial plants, directly managed by us until we will be ready to put in commerce our E-Cats at a price for which the competition will not be encouraged, or able, to proceed against us.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
The NRL in 2011 made in Washington a test of the E-Cat during which the reactor remained practically for the 90% of the time in SSM. An officer of the DOE gave testimony of this fact in this very blog about a year ago.
Can you talk us more about that experiment?
Thank you if you can answer,
Ray
Buck:
Thank you for your attention to our work.
Answer: no, it is not that the destination.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea:
You have shared that some in the crude oil distillation industry have or will visit you to presumably learn more about the E-Cat QX and possibly enter into a business arrangement.
Also, you have responded to Gerard McEk saying that the E-Cat QX plant you are currently constructing for industry will produce heat in the range of 100-200C.
The following link outlines the temperatures applicable to crude oil distillation, showing a peak operating temperature of about 400C. Does this support the assumption that your targeted industrial customer(s) are not in the oil refinery industry?
Again, thank you for your willingness to share.
My best,
Buck
Link>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_refinery#Operation
JPR:
Also today we are wotking well, while also structuring to receive properly Ms Irma!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
Gerard McEk:
1- yes
2- low level
3- premature
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Arjen:
As I always said, all the energy sources must be integrated. When you give data related to solar, you always must consider that the efficiency is not a number, but an integral wherein it is in function of the sun irradiation.
This said, congratulations to the Chilean solar industry!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Rossi
Recent lowest bid on a solar farm
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-18/chile-s-energy-industry-a-spot-of-light-in-a-darkening-economy
In last week’s energy auction, Chile accepted a bid from Spanish developer Solarpack Corp. Tecnologica for 120 megawatts of solar at the stunning price of $29.10 per megawatt-hour (2.91 cents per kilowatt-hour or kwh). This beats the 2.99 cents/kwh bid Dubai received recently for 800 megawatts. For context, the average residential price for electricity in the United States is 12 cents per kilowatt-hour.
Will the ecat qx be as competitive as above offer?
Dear Andrea,
It is exciting to hear that you have already started to construct plants of a considerable capacity (> 1MW). Please allow me to ask some questions about it:
1. You will deliver energy and I assume it will be heat energy. Is that right?
2. If so will it be a. low level heat (100-200 C); b. medium level heat (200-600 C) or c. > 600 C?
3. May these also plants be used as a demonstration facility for the E-cat QX if everything goes well?
Thanks.
Kind regards, Gerard
Dr Joseph Fine:
We are working with the E-Cat. So far we do not know if Irma will hit Florida, anyway we are prepared, as I suppose most of people here in Florida.We are prepared for the worst, hoping for the best.
Thank you very much for your kind concern from my Team and me.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
While you continue progress toward Sigma-5, you must certainly be aware that Hurricane Irma, a very dangerous Category-5 Hurricane, is heading in the direction of Florida.
My/(Our familly’s) best wishes for the safety of you and your team during the next several days and weeks.
Have you protected yourself and your crew, the facility equipment and the E-Cat QX system itself? Or in other words, do you think the E-Cat QX system will be able to operate during the arival and departure of IRMA…..
Can you reduce power output for 24 hours without impacting the SIGMA-5 test?
Be well, stay safe and, following the storm, Full Speed Ahead!
Joseph Fine
Frank Acland:
Slow. The reason is: to resolve with calm all the unavoidable problems that will come up. The model is the strategy of George Washington during the Independence war: he has been enormously and repeatedly criticized for his continue delay of the important crucial battles, but he accepted the fight only when he was sure his heroic voluntary patriots were ready to fight against the professional forces of the United Kingdom.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
What is your goal for E-Cat adoption in the marketplace: fast, slow, or somewhere in the middle? Whatever your answer, can you explain why?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Jason:
Thank you for your attention,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
The test continues well.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I read the last Gullstrom -Rossi paper on Arxiv. Very interesting, I think that the spin polarizability could help to understand better the LENR.
Godspeed,
Jason
Dear Readers:
Please go to
http://www.rossilivecat.com
to find comments published on other posts of this blog.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
a) yes
b) confidential
C) energy
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Manuel Cilia:
Higher.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
Still on our way toward Sigma 5.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
Dear Dr Rossi
The older Ecat where 1Mw in output, will the newer Xcats be of similar output or larger for industrial use.
Thank you
Dear Andrea,
Very interesting that you have agreements to build plants already.
a) Have you started building them yet?
b) When do you expect to have them completed?
c) Will you be selling the plant, or selling energy with these first plants?
Best wishes,
Frank Acland
Frank Acland:
a) that we will operate the plant and the Customer will not have access to the reactors
b) yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
You say that your the first plants that you sell will be managed directly by you.
a) Can you explain what you mean by that?
b) Have you any agreements to build plants for customers yet?
Thank you if you can answer,
Frank Acland
Zimmer:
Fuel cells could be coupled also with the E-Cats.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Zimmer:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
China’s $1 Trillion Power Industry Overhaul Is Just Starting:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-29/china-s-1-trillion-power-industry-overhaul-is-just-starting
Dr Rossi, LENR Fuel Cells are the Future – interesting:
http://www.powermag.com/fuel-cells-key-to-our-electric-energy-future/
Diego:
Thank You
Warm Regards
A.R.
JPR,
Also today we are good.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Gerard MkEk,
No
Warm Regards
A.R
Aaron,
Yes
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea
less than two months to the end of October: are you still solid on that date for your Quark(x) demo/presentation?
Best regards
Aaron
Dear Andrea,
With the insight you have now in how the LENR process works, do you believe that it will change the future insight of atom physics and astro-physics?
Thanks and kind regards, Gerard
Update?
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Congratulations for your series of 45 patents allowed in the world. Impressive.
Diego
Lucio Martini:
Thank you for your insight, that is interesting and there is no reason not to publish it. I have studied the possibility to couple the E-Cats with the Rankine cycle technology. I did it thoroughly in 2012 with an engineer that manufactures Rankine boilers.
We arrived to the conclusion that the Carnot cycle is 5% more efficient even with optimal data from the E-Cat. Rankine is better at lower temperatures, but at 550 C is not competitive.
Disclaimer: I am talking of 2012 and I am not informed about improvements that can have been made in the last 5 years. If you operate in the field and want to make proposals, I am curious and I am here:
info@leonardocorp1996.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Caro Ing. Rossi
la pregherei di non pubblicare questa mia riflessione, comunque lascio a lei la decisione.
Cerco di darle qui la motivazione da ingegnere a ingegnere della difficoltà ad ottenere il ciclo di Carnot con il vapore e quindi la necessità di adottare il ciclo Rankine. Sarebbe più semplice e più facilmente comprensibile se le potessi disegnare il tutto.
Se lei vorrà disegnare il rettangolo del ciclo di Carnot sotto la campana di Andrews con coordinate T/S (Temperatura/Entropia) iniziando dal punto più alto (per temperatura e pressione) alla sinistra (inizio vaporizzazione ad alta pressione) riscaldando raggiungerà, muovendosi orizzontalmente la completa vaporizzazione (con una trasformazione isotermica), quindi scenderà con una traformazione a entropia costante, riducendo la pressione e la temperatura raggiungendo la temperatura più bassa del ciclo. A questo punto inizia la condensazione che sarà a temperatura costante. Condensazione che dovrebbe arrestarsi, sotto la verticale del primo punto, alla stessa entropia dello stesso primo punto. Da lì il ciclo deve completarsi con una trasformazione a entropia costante, muovendosi in verticale aumentando di pressione e temperatura.
Ebbene in questo ultimo punto si ha vapore umido, (circa 10% vapore e 90% acqua) ed è difficile arrestare la condensazione (direi impossibile) inoltre pompare il vapore umido dalla bassa pressione alla pressione iniziale distruggerebbe il compressore nel giro di poche ore.
Si deve pertanto condensare completamente il vapore trasformandolo completamente in acqua e pomparla fino al primo punto, in modo da riprendere il ciclo. In tal modo si ha il ciclo di Rankine. Con rendimento certamente inferiore al ciclo di Carnot. Tuttavia con uno o due surriscaldamenti il rendimento migliora arrivando a un 35%.
If you want to draw the rectangle of the Carnot cycle under the Andrews bell with T / S (Temperature / Entropy) coordinates starting from the highest point (for high temperature and pressure) to the left (start vaporization of high pressure) heating you will reach, moving horizontally, complete vaporization (with an isothermal transformation), then you will come down with a constant entropy transformation, reducing the pressure and temperature reaching the lowest temperature of the cycle. At this point, the condensation begins at a constant temperature. Condensation that should stop, under the vertical of the first point of the cycle, to the same entropy of the same first point. From there, the cycle must be completed with a constant entropy transformation, moving vertically by increasing pressure and temperature. Well at this third point you have wet steam (about 10% steam and 90% water) and it is difficult to stop the condensation (I think imposible), in addiction pump the wet steam from the low pressure to the initial pressure would destroy the compressor within a few hours. You must therefore completely condense the steam by turning it completely into water and pump it up to the first point, so that you can resume the cycle. This is how the Rankine cycle is. With performance certainly lower than the Carnot cycle. However, with one or two overheating, the performance improves more or less until 35%.
Con immutata stima.
Lucio Martini
Prof:
Because the colors are all related by the unbroken symmetry of the strong interactions.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Since each of quarks comes in three colors, why is not each color counted as a separate particle?
Dan C.:
Within October we will reach Sigma 5 if everything goes on as now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
sceptic seems a little weak in his convictions.
He is only willing to risk 100 $ if he is wrong, but expects you to risk 1000 $ if he is right.
On another topic,
How close to sigma 5-? “on the tennis court” he he
Frank Acland:
Premature to answer.
Sharks are around ( especially the most vociferous competitors, whose vociferity is inversally proportional to their capacity to make something real by themselves, otherwise they’d have not time to vociferate ) waiting for the availability of our products to copy them. It is true that our patents cover our IP, but litigations have a huge cost. The best protection will be our economy scale. This makes unlikely that we will put for sale our mass products before we will have completed the industrialization of the manufacturing, to put for sale the E-Cat at a price able to restrain the competition from the beginning. We will continue to sell only big industrial plants, directly managed by us until we will be ready to put in commerce our E-Cats at a price for which the competition will not be encouraged, or able, to proceed against us.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
The closer you get to Sigma 5, what is the effect on your chances for commercialization of the E-Cat QX?
Thank you very much,
Frank Acland
Joshua:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sceptic:
I’ll see what I can do.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
I am very pleased of how things are going on, if we exclude considerations about events from the tennis court.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?