This company claimed mass production of Stirling engines, although these are ideal for not-here-prefered home use 1kW range.
For Your industrial use or demo there will need 50 devices in spherical positions:
regarding your interest in Stirling Engines, it sounds like you have hit several dead-ends. It is my hope is that you have had luck reaching out to Dean Kamen of Deka Research regarding their Beacon 10. Here are some good links to the Deka.
Dear Andrea,
to produce chips with ARM technology, as Qualcom does with foundry company, need fabs that costs some billion dollars each, so is very easy for them to knows who is doing what and how much.
I think once the Ecat IP is public and everybody can buy one, thousand of small company around all the world will try to replicate and produce it and you will not have any control of the business.
On my opinion your business model is the best one.
Regards, Giuseppe
TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor) is in reality producing famous Qualcomm chips, which are based on ARM license. For years I promote ARM business model for Dr.Rossi/Leonardo and fast E-Cat saturation of markets.
There are some funny hypothesis, for example: Some folks thinks, that when media will be informed about E-Cat and demo one year later, that big energy companies will not going bankrupt 3-8 years later, which of course is false hope. If media will informed at November demo, these companies will also go to bankrupt within 3-8 years and if media will informed X years later, these companies again will go bankrupt 3-8 years later.
THere is only one difference, if media will informed later, damages from unfinished abandoned projects will few hundreds billion USD higher. For example in our country is 70% state owned equivalent of Vattenfall – Czech powerplat company CEZ a.s., these heavily bought every piece of abandoned “assets” from others and CEZ management fanatically want build new blocks of nuclear powerplant (cost 300 billion CZK). As this management is not informed, they have information assymetry against Vattenfall and they continued in buying every another abandoned energy assets. As state owned company – this is heavy pain for ordinary citizens. So I really “love” here approach with as much late delayed media attention about E-Cat. For a few billion more private profit there will hundreds billion more public and private damages (costs).
Raoul and Kurt have made interesting suggestions for you to make a business model similar to Qualcomm, which has many patents and makes much of its income licensing them to other manufacturers.
It would seem advantages in licensing patents would be that the E-Cat technology could be diffused more rapidly across many industries, and you would not be required to build massive manufacturing facilities, if other companies would be responsible for producing products licensed from you.
Disadvantages might be you spend more time in court dealing with legal issues and challenges which could come.
However, Qualcomm is not just a licensing company, it also has a manufacturing side, making chips and other electrical components.
Which track do you think makes most sense in your case, or maybe both could work?
Dear Dott.Rossi
I would be happy if the E-cat Qx will work with the Tesla Turbine
Mybe it’s a beautifull marriage from two big discoverys
My best wishes for you and for the E-Cat.
Giorgio
Buck:
The demo of November will not be made by means of a Stirling Engine.
The R&D for an application to engines ( not necessarily Stirling) has been due to other factors.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
P.S.
My tennis instructor ( my wife ) says I am hopeless.
I hope this finds you well and far a long the path towards the upcoming demonstration.
With your revived interest in Stirling engines, an idea has floated . . . that you will present two distinct demonstrations of Rossi effect. The first is the basic irrefutable water calorimetric setup proving the essentials of the theory that LENR does have the capacity of a COP far greater than 1. The second would be with the ~50KW Stirling engine; a demonstration acting as a bridge from the theoretical proof of the 1st setup to an extremely practical demonstration of what the Rossi effect can do in an industrial setting.
It is my hope that your plans reflect this idea . . . I believe you can see how it will effect the conclusions of those observing the demonstration. Strangely, I see it like the Lugano report’s ability to disarm the doubters. The two parts (energy input/output measurement and elemental/isotopic analysis) overwhelmed the possible scenarios of fakery.
My best to you, your team, and your tennis instructor.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
I too think that the best business model for you should be the one of Qualcomm, earning the fees from your patents and licensing all the specialized companies of the specific sectors ( vehicles, electric production, heat production etc).
This plan would speed up the applications.
Godspeed,
Kurt
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Kochum’s Stirling engine is much more than a prototype: it is used to power a Swedish submarine: see http://saabgroup.com/sv/media/stories-listings/2015-02/the-secret-to-the-worlds-most-silent-submarine/
The engine is a closed system that uses heat from liquid oxygen and Diesel oil, so that it can run under water without need of combustion air.
The manufacturer states that it can use any heat source, so it is a perfect match for the E-Cat QX, I suppose.
Warm Regards,
Adrian Ashfield
I know you have shown some interest in Stirling engines over the years, but I am wondering what makes the Stirling Engine a “hot” topic for you right now?
In your reply to Rudy you said: “If any Stirling engine manufacturer has a 50 kW engine ready to be bought, this is the very right moment to contact me.”
Having been following alternative power generation for more than a decade, your appeal reminded me of the FLEXGEN 43, a ready to go Stirling engine that is designed for an electrical power output ranging between 43 kW and 55 kW. Their website says:
STIRLING BIOPOWER INC.
PGL, FLAVEX has been authorized product distributor for the FLEXGEN 43 manufactured in Ann Arbor MI. this unique Stirling cycle grid power generator is capable to produce from 43 to 55 KW of prime power at 480Volt, 3 Phase, 60Hz, capable of using a wide variety of standard and non standard gaseous fuels as well as waste heat sources.
With more than 30 years of research and development in the Stirling Engine field Stirling Biopower Inc. is pioneer in green power generators, for more information please visit:
“Dr Andrea Rossi:
“It appears that your patent is very difficult to overcome for every competitor that wants to use analogous charges or system, in particular now, after it has been allowed practically in the whole world.
“Have you thought to adopt a policy similar to the one of Qualcomm, that gets most of its billionaire income from the patent fees, much more than from the sales of their own products?”
==========
I do not understand this. For any new invention if, in addition to royalties, production of the product can be significantly profitable, why would the inventor decide to leave to others the profits available from production and sale?
Might I suggest the below for a possible 50kW solution. They use the United Stirling 4-275 with heat from from a solar concentrator. I would think heat from an E-Cat would work as well.
Dr Andrea Rossi:
It appears that your patent is very difficult to overcome for every competitor that wants to use analogous charges or system, in particular now, after it has been allowed practically in the whole world.
Have you thought to adopt a policy similar to the one of Qualcomm, that gets most of its billionaire income from the patent fees, much more than from the sales of their own products?
Congratulations,
Raoul
@Supporter of Focardi’s Legacy:
I presume you are somewhat stumped as to why LENR’s are refuted by the mainstream establishment. And I guess that you believe that if the LENR process was kept to a simple Nickel/ Hydrogen reaction then this process would have more chance of being accepted as a viable method of replacing conventional methods of generating heat. The sad facts are that any technology that is revolutionary i.e. not an old technology that has been simply tweaked is very, very difficult to introduce to the general public by public broadcasting due to the continual backlash from the established mainstream powers that be. Any technology/process that is labeled destructive or ‘before its time’ can be looked upon as a ‘hot potato’ and for those who investigate or even acknowledge such such a scientific breakthrough risk upsetting their peers and jeopardizing their careers. LENR’s I believe falls into the category of a ‘hot potato’. There are many people who are aware of this problem regarding the introduction of any groundbreaking technology but unfortunately there are more people who are totally unaware due to there none involvement in such matters. Joe Bob if he worked for a government run research establishment would find himself out of work if he went against his peers, proved LENR’s and proceeded to inform the general public
E.A.
Anonymous:
1- yes
2- I think that both parties are too intelligent not to find an agreement, probably based on a major fiscal autonomy for Catalonia.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
This company claimed mass production of Stirling engines, although these are ideal for not-here-prefered home use 1kW range.
For Your industrial use or demo there will need 50 devices in spherical positions:
Design life 50.000 hours, efficiency 26%:
http://www.microgen-engine.com/products/engines/
Hello Andrea:
regarding your interest in Stirling Engines, it sounds like you have hit several dead-ends. It is my hope is that you have had luck reaching out to Dean Kamen of Deka Research regarding their Beacon 10. Here are some good links to the Deka.
Link>> http://www.dekaresearch.com/innovations/
Link>> http://www.dekaresearch.com/contact-us/#1477590984977-c216091b-2cc2
my best,
Buck
Colin Watters:
Tried to contact Kockums, didn’t have any answer.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Paul:
tried to contact them, no reply.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Albert Ellul:
I called the phone you suggested, it’s non existent. Tried to contact them, no reply.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Giuseppe:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
to produce chips with ARM technology, as Qualcom does with foundry company, need fabs that costs some billion dollars each, so is very easy for them to knows who is doing what and how much.
I think once the Ecat IP is public and everybody can buy one, thousand of small company around all the world will try to replicate and produce it and you will not have any control of the business.
On my opinion your business model is the best one.
Regards, Giuseppe
Geert:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Samec:
Thank you for the information, but the Qualcomm model worked differently.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor) is in reality producing famous Qualcomm chips, which are based on ARM license. For years I promote ARM business model for Dr.Rossi/Leonardo and fast E-Cat saturation of markets.
There are some funny hypothesis, for example: Some folks thinks, that when media will be informed about E-Cat and demo one year later, that big energy companies will not going bankrupt 3-8 years later, which of course is false hope. If media will informed at November demo, these companies will also go to bankrupt within 3-8 years and if media will informed X years later, these companies again will go bankrupt 3-8 years later.
THere is only one difference, if media will informed later, damages from unfinished abandoned projects will few hundreds billion USD higher. For example in our country is 70% state owned equivalent of Vattenfall – Czech powerplat company CEZ a.s., these heavily bought every piece of abandoned “assets” from others and CEZ management fanatically want build new blocks of nuclear powerplant (cost 300 billion CZK). As this management is not informed, they have information assymetry against Vattenfall and they continued in buying every another abandoned energy assets. As state owned company – this is heavy pain for ordinary citizens. So I really “love” here approach with as much late delayed media attention about E-Cat. For a few billion more private profit there will hundreds billion more public and private damages (costs).
Dear Andrea Rossi:
Stirling engine: try to google “PCK 80 Stirling Engine”
Cheers
Geert Verhoeven
Frank Acland:
I think for a winner thoroughbred you need both stamina and speed in proper equilibrium.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Raoul and Kurt have made interesting suggestions for you to make a business model similar to Qualcomm, which has many patents and makes much of its income licensing them to other manufacturers.
It would seem advantages in licensing patents would be that the E-Cat technology could be diffused more rapidly across many industries, and you would not be required to build massive manufacturing facilities, if other companies would be responsible for producing products licensed from you.
Disadvantages might be you spend more time in court dealing with legal issues and challenges which could come.
However, Qualcomm is not just a licensing company, it also has a manufacturing side, making chips and other electrical components.
Which track do you think makes most sense in your case, or maybe both could work?
Best wishes,
Frank Acland
Giorgio:
Thank you for the suggestion.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dott.Rossi
I would be happy if the E-cat Qx will work with the Tesla Turbine
Mybe it’s a beautifull marriage from two big discoverys
My best wishes for you and for the E-Cat.
Giorgio
Buck:
The demo of November will not be made by means of a Stirling Engine.
The R&D for an application to engines ( not necessarily Stirling) has been due to other factors.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
P.S.
My tennis instructor ( my wife ) says I am hopeless.
Good Day Andrea:
I hope this finds you well and far a long the path towards the upcoming demonstration.
With your revived interest in Stirling engines, an idea has floated . . . that you will present two distinct demonstrations of Rossi effect. The first is the basic irrefutable water calorimetric setup proving the essentials of the theory that LENR does have the capacity of a COP far greater than 1. The second would be with the ~50KW Stirling engine; a demonstration acting as a bridge from the theoretical proof of the 1st setup to an extremely practical demonstration of what the Rossi effect can do in an industrial setting.
It is my hope that your plans reflect this idea . . . I believe you can see how it will effect the conclusions of those observing the demonstration. Strangely, I see it like the Lugano report’s ability to disarm the doubters. The two parts (energy input/output measurement and elemental/isotopic analysis) overwhelmed the possible scenarios of fakery.
My best to you, your team, and your tennis instructor.
Buck
Adrian Ashfield:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Here is another interesting link to the Stirling engine:
http://www.inresol.se/pdf/genious_data_sheet_stirling_engine.pdf
Warm Regards,
A.Ashfield
Kurt:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Scott Harrison:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
Also today working well.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
This article on Fortune can be useful: google “Fortune Dean Kamen Stirling Engine”.
Cheers
Scott Harrison
Dr Andrea Rossi:
I too think that the best business model for you should be the one of Qualcomm, earning the fees from your patents and licensing all the specialized companies of the specific sectors ( vehicles, electric production, heat production etc).
This plan would speed up the applications.
Godspeed,
Kurt
Frank Acland:
I deem this field extremely important.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Albert Ellul:
Very good, again thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Adrian Ashfield:
Thank you for this information.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Drew G.:
Thank you for the information.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Thus website has the 43KW Stirling Engine:
http://www.stirlingsupercoolers.com/energy.asp
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Kochum’s Stirling engine is much more than a prototype: it is used to power a Swedish submarine: see
http://saabgroup.com/sv/media/stories-listings/2015-02/the-secret-to-the-worlds-most-silent-submarine/
The engine is a closed system that uses heat from liquid oxygen and Diesel oil, so that it can run under water without need of combustion air.
The manufacturer states that it can use any heat source, so it is a perfect match for the E-Cat QX, I suppose.
Warm Regards,
Adrian Ashfield
About Stirling Biopower Inc:
Their website is not responding but there’s an address and a telephone number:
Corporate Information
Address:
275 Metter Dr
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
United States
Phone: 1-734-995-1755
Dear Andrea,
I know you have shown some interest in Stirling engines over the years, but I am wondering what makes the Stirling Engine a “hot” topic for you right now?
Thank you very much,
Frank Acland
Albert Ellul:
Thank you, this is very useful.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
In your reply to Rudy you said: “If any Stirling engine manufacturer has a 50 kW engine ready to be bought, this is the very right moment to contact me.”
Having been following alternative power generation for more than a decade, your appeal reminded me of the FLEXGEN 43, a ready to go Stirling engine that is designed for an electrical power output ranging between 43 kW and 55 kW. Their website says:
STIRLING BIOPOWER INC.
PGL, FLAVEX has been authorized product distributor for the FLEXGEN 43 manufactured in Ann Arbor MI. this unique Stirling cycle grid power generator is capable to produce from 43 to 55 KW of prime power at 480Volt, 3 Phase, 60Hz, capable of using a wide variety of standard and non standard gaseous fuels as well as waste heat sources.
With more than 30 years of research and development in the Stirling Engine field Stirling Biopower Inc. is pioneer in green power generators, for more information please visit:
http://www.stirlingbiopower.com.
I wish you the success you deserve following the many years of hard work and the sacrifices you made to come to this point of no return.
Colin Watters:
Thank you very much for the information. This issue now is hot.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Paul:
Thank you very much for the information,
Warm regards,
A.R.
Regarding:
Raoul
October 14, 2017 at 7:55 AM
“Dr Andrea Rossi:
“It appears that your patent is very difficult to overcome for every competitor that wants to use analogous charges or system, in particular now, after it has been allowed practically in the whole world.
“Have you thought to adopt a policy similar to the one of Qualcomm, that gets most of its billionaire income from the patent fees, much more than from the sales of their own products?”
==========
I do not understand this. For any new invention if, in addition to royalties, production of the product can be significantly profitable, why would the inventor decide to leave to others the profits available from production and sale?
Rodney Nicholson.
Might I suggest the below for a possible 50kW solution. They use the United Stirling 4-275 with heat from from a solar concentrator. I would think heat from an E-Cat would work as well.
http://www.sbp.de/en/project/50-kw-dishstirling-system/
another possible source: http://www.micropowers.com/en/generator_detail.aspx?cid=416&id=53
I think Kockums in Sweden may make a 100HP Sterling engine.
@Raoul:
Great suggestion!
Raoul:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rudy:
If any Stirling engine manufacturer has a 50 kW engine ready to be bought, this is the very right moment to contact me.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
JPR:
I think we are close to be ready for a great presentation. On our way toward Sigma 5.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Update?
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Is Stirling engine a possible solution to make an engine with the E-Cat?
Dr Andrea Rossi:
It appears that your patent is very difficult to overcome for every competitor that wants to use analogous charges or system, in particular now, after it has been allowed practically in the whole world.
Have you thought to adopt a policy similar to the one of Qualcomm, that gets most of its billionaire income from the patent fees, much more than from the sales of their own products?
Congratulations,
Raoul
@Supporter of Focardi’s Legacy:
I presume you are somewhat stumped as to why LENR’s are refuted by the mainstream establishment. And I guess that you believe that if the LENR process was kept to a simple Nickel/ Hydrogen reaction then this process would have more chance of being accepted as a viable method of replacing conventional methods of generating heat. The sad facts are that any technology that is revolutionary i.e. not an old technology that has been simply tweaked is very, very difficult to introduce to the general public by public broadcasting due to the continual backlash from the established mainstream powers that be. Any technology/process that is labeled destructive or ‘before its time’ can be looked upon as a ‘hot potato’ and for those who investigate or even acknowledge such such a scientific breakthrough risk upsetting their peers and jeopardizing their careers. LENR’s I believe falls into the category of a ‘hot potato’. There are many people who are aware of this problem regarding the introduction of any groundbreaking technology but unfortunately there are more people who are totally unaware due to there none involvement in such matters. Joe Bob if he worked for a government run research establishment would find himself out of work if he went against his peers, proved LENR’s and proceeded to inform the general public
E.A.
Anonymous:
1- yes
2- I think that both parties are too intelligent not to find an agreement, probably based on a major fiscal autonomy for Catalonia.
Warm Regards,
A.R.