From your response: “To stop is not an option”, I now understand the ‘Rossi Effect’: try, try, try, try, try, try,-> ……. -> try, again. 🙂
With much respect,
Brokeeper
Dan C and Dr, Rossi, I really enjoyed all four Posts.
Two fantastic Posts by Dan C.
And the funny response by Dr. Rossi.
Robert Curto
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
USA
Giuliano Bettini:
I do not agree with your deduction from 3d: from my point od view, it would just imply that much more R&D will have to be made. Your deduction sounds like ” should the ships of Columbus have been wrecked by a storm in the middle of the ocean, America would never have been discovered”. Wrong. All the options you cited are still open and we have to wait the end of the tests on course to have a precise idea how to proceed. To stop is not an option.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dan C.:
Same plane, different scene:
a man who believed to be a genius going to save the world beyond any risk to fail was in that aeroplane, which, for a break of the engine, was going to fall down. On board there were other 3 guys with him (the pilot and other two that he considered morons). Only 3 parachutes were there and he said “I am the most intelligent man around and I’m gonna save the world, so give me that parachute”. The pilot complied. He donned it through the shoulders, jumped out of the plane, popped the thing open and discovered it was a backpack with an overcoat inside.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
regarding the AlainCo Post.
Although time has passed, we still do not distinguish the “reasons of failure.” In my opinion, 3a, 3b, 3c are surmountable technological problems (“stupid engineering problems” I would say).
Instead 3d would be a tragedy, that would mean “we have played for years with LENR that do not exist.”
It is like mixing apples and oranges. IMO.
3e is a generic reference to the Murphy’s law, which I can not evaluate.
AlainCo (@alain_co)
December 17th, 2015 at 4:42 AM
Dear Dot Rossi,
Many people are concerned by your remark on losing the bet about E-cat test. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=892&cpage=29…
May naive interpretation is that it may succeed, or may fail, because the reactor have already endured downtime, and that you should never sell the wool of the mammoth before you have cooked all the meat (GrandMa proverb)…
1) Do you feel reasonably possible to win the bet, ie to have a positive outcome for the test
2) do you feel a)confident, b)optimistic, c)pessimistic, or d) worried about the outcome?
3) if it fails, do you expect it will be caused by a)plumbing&al b) control&al c)material science&al d) physics&al e) unknown unknown ?
I am not a fan of the analogy of jumping from a 20 story window. Even tho I understand the intent. As at the 10th floor all is fine-
That landing regardless what lies beneath (F9) is lookin like a Big Hit in a bad way. 🙁
I have created another analogy. One where (F9) can be positive or negative.
Rossi has Exited from the plane at 10,000 feet- All is fine– At 5,000 feet, All is fine. At 2,500 feet Rossi has “popped the chute”- And all is fine. What could possibly go wrong.
A serious downdraft could collapse the chute.
A Mean crosswind could blow you into a 100K volt power line.
You could break a leg or worse on landing.
Even upon an uneventful landing, (F9) will only be positive when the Doctor/Referee checks Rossi out & says, All Is Fine!
I actually considered a sports analogy. Bottom of the 9th, “3 balls” & no strikes, But I thought you may think Pinball. he he he.
We have also analyzed all the questions of your fans and determined this is what they are asking. At this point in time in the test(near 10 months)-
What Could Possibly Go Wrong.
Not having a “Crystal Ball”, being the Holiday season and knowing how mischievous Cat’s can be, This is the best response we could come up with to explain unknowns- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRn2S7iPNU
My team prides itself in being forward thinking for answers to tomorrows problems. Specifically, December 25th 2016- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9VQxhJczLA
Praying the E-cats can be taught to behave this well.
My team(the voices in my head) and I Wish You and your Team a wonderful holiday and a very Fantastic New Year.
Eernie1:
Many factors could turn negative and it is impossible to schedule the unknown.
Let us complete our tests, then we will know.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I cannot for myself understand what would compromise a negative conclusion to your test. Would it be possible for you to define what you would consider a negative outcome for us readers?
Hopeful regards.
If you scaled down the e-cat x to a few watts, would it be small enough to integrate on an IC chip or MEMS device?
(IC: Integrated Circuit, MEMS: Microelectromechanical System)
Thank you for keeping us posted on your projects! Would you mind letting us know if:
1) Has the E-Cat X been trouble free during the last month? (meaning no significant problems)
2) If not, can you mention one or two of the issues you may have encountered on this path?
Bob:
Quantum Tunnelling is a very wide issue and the link you kindly suggested is a paramount description of it, not specifically related to a particular technology.
To link it to the so called Rossi Effect a complex mathematical modelling is necessary.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stephen:
1. the improvements are applicable also to the 1 MW E-Cat
2. it could be scaled down to few Watts
3. I suppose yes, but it has to be experianced
4. yes
5. yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stephen:
Thank you very much for your inspiring comment on the British astronaut Tim Peake.
Very happy holidays and a truly amazing and fulfilling New Year to you and to our dear Readers, from all our Team.
Andrea Rossi
Alain Co (@alain_co):
First and foremost, thank you for your continue attention.
1- I never bet ( see my answer to Diego Keese few minutes ago)
2- always worried: this is a situation in which until something remains to be done, nothing has been done
3- unknown and unforeseeable: there is not history to take lessons from
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Diego Keese:
When I was 10 years old my father wanted me to spend at least 15 days of the summer school-holidays in his factory, where steel manufacts were built. I worked 8 hours during those 15 days and learnt how to drill and weld pieces of steel. It was very fatigating because my father wanted me to understand from where money came. Finished my 15 days of “service”, I got my wage of 5000 Lire ( at those times, in 1960, it was the equivalent of today’s 500 $).
With that sum in my pocket, I felt myself the richest man in the world. The first day of “freedom” I went to the “Oratorio”, a place close to the church where kids could play soccer and socialize. There was a bunch of kids, smarter than me, playing poker. I played poker with them and in a couple of hours I lost all my money.
I tried to be refunded from my father, but he said: “That money was yours, you lost it, it’s your business”.
It has been a so strong trauma, that since then I never bet money again.
And now you ask me to bet 100 000 euros on a plant that I do not know if will turn out with positive or negative results? Do you want me to get a heart attack?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Agnus Harsy:
Gravitational waves ( Gravitons) ripple predominantly from the body with highest gravitational density to the body with less of it, but it is anyway an exchange of Gravitons, therefore gravitational waves ripple also from the Moon to the Earth in measure enough to produce the tides, while the pull of the Earth is enough to make the Moon orbit around the Earth.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Being a Brit a couple of days ago I watched the British astronaut Tim Peake being launched to the space station. It was very inspiring. Both the amazing international cooperation needed with the space station and the view of earth. The perspective of earth from space must be amazing. One small blue planet in a vast open space with a gossamer thin layer of atmosphere containing all known life and all the billions of people except the very few on the Space Station. It occurred to me that while Tim is up there however the e-cat test itself finishes new results and revelations about new fire technology may be seen that could potentially have great impact on technology both on earth and up in space maybe the technology will oneday make space exploration much more achievable and going to moon planets and stars will become a reality. Helping to protect that beautiful thin life giving atmosphere on earth and helping relieve hardship for people in need is already an amazing gift but may be it is just the beginning.
I wish you and your team very happy holidays and a truly amazing and fulfilling new year.
May naive interpretation is that it may succeed, or may fail, because the reactor have already endured downtime, and that you should never sell the wool of the mammoth before you have cooked all the meat (GrandMa proverb)…
1) Do you feel reasonably possible to win the bet, ie to have a positive outcome for the test
2) do you feel a)confident, b)optimistic, c)pessimistic, or d) worried about the outcome?
3) if it fails, do you expect it will be caused by a)plumbing&al b) control&al c)material science&al d) physics&al e) unknown unknown ?
Noel Sharrief:
“Preons” is the name given to exotic supposed but never found evidence of components of Partons. Partons are Quarks and Gluons, so called because they are the parts that compose Neutrons and Protons.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Do you expect to incorporate the 1 kW modules of the E-Cat X in your future low temperature plants (if positive results are obtained from your testing)?
Dr Andrea Rossi
If you have to make a 100 000 euro bet about the final results, you’d bet on positive results or negative results?
Betting Regards,
Diego
Dr Andrea Rossi
About gravity: between the moon and the Earth it the moon that attracts the Earth or vice versa? The tides of the sea suggest it is the moon to attract the Earth.
Thanks for the time you find to answer,
Agnus
Genaro Froberg:
The massive production, which will start only after we will have obtained positive results from all the tests on course, will reduce the costs and, consequently, the prices of all our production.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi,
The massive production, and consequently the reducion of the prices of the E-Cats, will affect also the prices of the industrial plants, or only of the domestic E-Cats?
Dear Readers:
Please go to
http://www.rossilivecat.com
to find comments published in other posts of this blog.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Robert Curto:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Brokeeper:
Thank you!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Brokeeper:
Corrected the typo.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I’m not a Beokeeper. 🙂
Brokeeper
Dear Andrea,
From your response: “To stop is not an option”, I now understand the ‘Rossi Effect’: try, try, try, try, try, try,-> ……. -> try, again. 🙂
With much respect,
Brokeeper
Dan C and Dr, Rossi, I really enjoyed all four Posts.
Two fantastic Posts by Dan C.
And the funny response by Dr. Rossi.
Robert Curto
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
USA
Giuliano Bettini:
I do not agree with your deduction from 3d: from my point od view, it would just imply that much more R&D will have to be made. Your deduction sounds like ” should the ships of Columbus have been wrecked by a storm in the middle of the ocean, America would never have been discovered”. Wrong. All the options you cited are still open and we have to wait the end of the tests on course to have a precise idea how to proceed. To stop is not an option.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dan C.:
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!
Thank you for these delighting links to the…Cats!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Byron:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dan C.:
Same plane, different scene:
a man who believed to be a genius going to save the world beyond any risk to fail was in that aeroplane, which, for a break of the engine, was going to fall down. On board there were other 3 guys with him (the pilot and other two that he considered morons). Only 3 parachutes were there and he said “I am the most intelligent man around and I’m gonna save the world, so give me that parachute”. The pilot complied. He donned it through the shoulders, jumped out of the plane, popped the thing open and discovered it was a backpack with an overcoat inside.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
regarding the AlainCo Post.
Although time has passed, we still do not distinguish the “reasons of failure.” In my opinion, 3a, 3b, 3c are surmountable technological problems (“stupid engineering problems” I would say).
Instead 3d would be a tragedy, that would mean “we have played for years with LENR that do not exist.”
It is like mixing apples and oranges. IMO.
3e is a generic reference to the Murphy’s law, which I can not evaluate.
AlainCo (@alain_co)
December 17th, 2015 at 4:42 AM
Dear Dot Rossi,
Many people are concerned by your remark on losing the bet about E-cat test.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=892&cpage=29…
May naive interpretation is that it may succeed, or may fail, because the reactor have already endured downtime, and that you should never sell the wool of the mammoth before you have cooked all the meat (GrandMa proverb)…
1) Do you feel reasonably possible to win the bet, ie to have a positive outcome for the test
2) do you feel a)confident, b)optimistic, c)pessimistic, or d) worried about the outcome?
3) if it fails, do you expect it will be caused by a)plumbing&al b) control&al c)material science&al d) physics&al e) unknown unknown ?
Cheers. Respectfully,
Giuliano Bettini.
Dear Andrea,
I am not a fan of the analogy of jumping from a 20 story window. Even tho I understand the intent. As at the 10th floor all is fine-
That landing regardless what lies beneath (F9) is lookin like a Big Hit in a bad way. 🙁
I have created another analogy. One where (F9) can be positive or negative.
Rossi has Exited from the plane at 10,000 feet- All is fine– At 5,000 feet, All is fine. At 2,500 feet Rossi has “popped the chute”- And all is fine. What could possibly go wrong.
A serious downdraft could collapse the chute.
A Mean crosswind could blow you into a 100K volt power line.
You could break a leg or worse on landing.
Even upon an uneventful landing, (F9) will only be positive when the Doctor/Referee checks Rossi out & says, All Is Fine!
I actually considered a sports analogy. Bottom of the 9th, “3 balls” & no strikes, But I thought you may think Pinball. he he he.
To safe landings
Dan C.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
Did you find excess of Ni62 also in your analysis of the charges, independently from the Lugano ITP analysis?
Regards,
Byron
Dear Andrea,
Dec 17: 1MW E-Cat: some trouble from leakages.
I have consulted my team and we’ve scoured the Internet of things & have found a solution. A must have.
http://www.tidycats.com/Content/images/homepage/2-18-2015/product.png
We have also analyzed all the questions of your fans and determined this is what they are asking. At this point in time in the test(near 10 months)-
What Could Possibly Go Wrong.
Not having a “Crystal Ball”, being the Holiday season and knowing how mischievous Cat’s can be, This is the best response we could come up with to explain unknowns-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRn2S7iPNU
My team prides itself in being forward thinking for answers to tomorrows problems. Specifically, December 25th 2016-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9VQxhJczLA
Praying the E-cats can be taught to behave this well.
My team(the voices in my head) and I Wish You and your Team a wonderful holiday and a very Fantastic New Year.
Seasons regards,
Dan C.
Fusionrudy:
Thank you for the link.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Paul:
I do not know.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Jurgen Schmitt:
You forgot the perspiration factor
Pe= P x c
Warm regards
A.R.
Eernie1:
Many factors could turn negative and it is impossible to schedule the unknown.
Let us complete our tests, then we will know.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I cannot for myself understand what would compromise a negative conclusion to your test. Would it be possible for you to define what you would consider a negative outcome for us readers?
Hopeful regards.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I think that I have discovered the secret formula behind the Rossi Effect:
P = Vitality x Ingenuity 🙂
Kind regards, Jürgen Schmitt
Andrea,
If you scaled down the e-cat x to a few watts, would it be small enough to integrate on an IC chip or MEMS device?
(IC: Integrated Circuit, MEMS: Microelectromechanical System)
Paul
Dear Andrea Rossi.
I wish you a very long and healthy life way beyond 2016 so you can improve the ECAT much further. As a supporting gift I want to send you this article from my Alma Mater ETH Zuerich:
https://www.ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2015/12/genes-for-longer-healthier-life-found.html
Tom Conover:
1- yes
2- n.a.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Thank you for keeping us posted on your projects! Would you mind letting us know if:
1) Has the E-Cat X been trouble free during the last month? (meaning no significant problems)
2) If not, can you mention one or two of the issues you may have encountered on this path?
Thank you!
Tom
Reva:
10.40 a.m. of Thu Dec 17:
1MW E-Cat: some trouble from leakages.
E-Cat X: in operation from more than a month now.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bob:
Quantum Tunnelling is a very wide issue and the link you kindly suggested is a paramount description of it, not specifically related to a particular technology.
To link it to the so called Rossi Effect a complex mathematical modelling is necessary.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
Is the gif found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling#/media/File:EffetTunnel.gif
a descriptive portrayal of the Rossi effect?
Thanks
Bob
Dr Andrea Rossi,
Will you give us an update today too?
Reva
Stephen:
1. the improvements are applicable also to the 1 MW E-Cat
2. it could be scaled down to few Watts
3. I suppose yes, but it has to be experianced
4. yes
5. yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stephen:
Thank you very much for your inspiring comment on the British astronaut Tim Peake.
Very happy holidays and a truly amazing and fulfilling New Year to you and to our dear Readers, from all our Team.
Andrea Rossi
Alain Co (@alain_co):
First and foremost, thank you for your continue attention.
1- I never bet ( see my answer to Diego Keese few minutes ago)
2- always worried: this is a situation in which until something remains to be done, nothing has been done
3- unknown and unforeseeable: there is not history to take lessons from
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Diego Keese:
When I was 10 years old my father wanted me to spend at least 15 days of the summer school-holidays in his factory, where steel manufacts were built. I worked 8 hours during those 15 days and learnt how to drill and weld pieces of steel. It was very fatigating because my father wanted me to understand from where money came. Finished my 15 days of “service”, I got my wage of 5000 Lire ( at those times, in 1960, it was the equivalent of today’s 500 $).
With that sum in my pocket, I felt myself the richest man in the world. The first day of “freedom” I went to the “Oratorio”, a place close to the church where kids could play soccer and socialize. There was a bunch of kids, smarter than me, playing poker. I played poker with them and in a couple of hours I lost all my money.
I tried to be refunded from my father, but he said: “That money was yours, you lost it, it’s your business”.
It has been a so strong trauma, that since then I never bet money again.
And now you ask me to bet 100 000 euros on a plant that I do not know if will turn out with positive or negative results? Do you want me to get a heart attack?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Agnus Harsy:
Gravitational waves ( Gravitons) ripple predominantly from the body with highest gravitational density to the body with less of it, but it is anyway an exchange of Gravitons, therefore gravitational waves ripple also from the Moon to the Earth in measure enough to produce the tides, while the pull of the Earth is enough to make the Moon orbit around the Earth.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jimmie Swiller:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I have a couple a small questions I have been curious about if I may.
1.Would the new materials developed for e-cat X also improve the reliability of the 1MW e-cat plant or are the issues there different?
2. Is there a theoretical smallest size that e-cat X can be made. Could it work for example with 10 kW units or even smaller?
If 2 is possible:
3. Would it still have the same operation life?
4. Would it scale down in size in proportion to the change in power
5. Could it be made much smaller for integration in small mobile or small distributed devices?
Best Regards
Stephen
Being a Brit a couple of days ago I watched the British astronaut Tim Peake being launched to the space station. It was very inspiring. Both the amazing international cooperation needed with the space station and the view of earth. The perspective of earth from space must be amazing. One small blue planet in a vast open space with a gossamer thin layer of atmosphere containing all known life and all the billions of people except the very few on the Space Station. It occurred to me that while Tim is up there however the e-cat test itself finishes new results and revelations about new fire technology may be seen that could potentially have great impact on technology both on earth and up in space maybe the technology will oneday make space exploration much more achievable and going to moon planets and stars will become a reality. Helping to protect that beautiful thin life giving atmosphere on earth and helping relieve hardship for people in need is already an amazing gift but may be it is just the beginning.
I wish you and your team very happy holidays and a truly amazing and fulfilling new year.
Stephen
Dear Dot Rossi,
Many people are concerned by your remark on losing the bet about E-cat test.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=892&cpage=29#comment-1140614
May naive interpretation is that it may succeed, or may fail, because the reactor have already endured downtime, and that you should never sell the wool of the mammoth before you have cooked all the meat (GrandMa proverb)…
1) Do you feel reasonably possible to win the bet, ie to have a positive outcome for the test
2) do you feel a)confident, b)optimistic, c)pessimistic, or d) worried about the outcome?
3) if it fails, do you expect it will be caused by a)plumbing&al b) control&al c)material science&al d) physics&al e) unknown unknown ?
Noel Sharrief:
“Preons” is the name given to exotic supposed but never found evidence of components of Partons. Partons are Quarks and Gluons, so called because they are the parts that compose Neutrons and Protons.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Felicia Maccauley:
Yes, the shift is that. Thanks God I am very well.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Maryana:
09.16 p.m. of Wednesday Dec 16
1MW E-Cat stable
E-Cat X good
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
It’s a possible option.
Warm Regards,
AS.R.
Dear Andrea,
Do you expect to incorporate the 1 kW modules of the E-Cat X in your future low temperature plants (if positive results are obtained from your testing)?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Dr Andrea Rossi
If you have to make a 100 000 euro bet about the final results, you’d bet on positive results or negative results?
Betting Regards,
Diego
Dr Andrea Rossi
About gravity: between the moon and the Earth it the moon that attracts the Earth or vice versa? The tides of the sea suggest it is the moon to attract the Earth.
Thanks for the time you find to answer,
Agnus
Dear Andrea
Your US Patent is the most interesting thing I read in the last 20 years.
Now give us the E-Cat!
Regards,
Jimmie
Genaro Froberg:
The massive production, which will start only after we will have obtained positive results from all the tests on course, will reduce the costs and, consequently, the prices of all our production.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi,
The massive production, and consequently the reducion of the prices of the E-Cats, will affect also the prices of the industrial plants, or only of the domestic E-Cats?
Dr Andrea Rossi
Can we have an update?
Cheers,
Maryana
Dr Andrea Rossi:
How is your health? Are you still working 18 hours per day 7 days a week?
Take care! We want you strong, not weak.
Felicia