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  • John Hawthorne

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    can this article be useful to suggest Ecat applications related to water scarcity?
    https://businessconnectworld.com/2017/11/16/water-scarcity-problem-thats-destroying-countries/

  • Bertold

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Are you still teying to make a single reactor of the Ecat QX with a high power?
    Thank you if you find the time to answer,
    Bertold

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eric Ashworth:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Leonid Alferovich:
    Thank you for your paper.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea, Follow up to my previous information.

    Mass Defect = Economy Force = force of an organized system). The mechanism as previously explained has an internal flow that I referred to as an ‘economy flow’ that I now realize is due to a mass defect. The mechanism organizes a system of flow unlike anatomic/sub atomic physics whereby potentials of energy are organized into systems of force. This phenomena, regarding force potentials, I believe is within every system whether micro or macro. The E-Cat being an artificial system cannot produce hydrogen but is able to reduce it to its base components. However when within the micro world of the macro state the phenomena of fusion is induced in a contained environment/planet unlike when in the macro state, that which has been fused is introduced/neutralized with a reaction opposite to that of fusion being fission and thereby producing neutrals with a release of a quantity of energy.

    The following requires a novel understanding that applies to many situations notably the LENR process but, why, the resistance it seems to incur?. Also the mechanism is subjected to the same resistance.

    Quarks I consider to be the building blocks of all matter. Neutrinos and the Higgs are integral to the quark but should not be considered vital at this stage of intro understanding. Lets assume that free quarks, unbound in matter, have a very weak gravity value, are a neutral unit of x6 component parts and that fill all empty space in our solar macro system. The system being systemic of nature could be referred to as a ‘time capsule’ when related to distance as a value of time i.e. distance between the integral parts/planets. Earth is an integral part of a system in a state of evolution thereby an integral part of the capsule and if so, I believe, we are not alone, if not, then fission and fusion are processes that can be understood as energy cycles of an interacting system whether it be micro or macro. Both a micro and a macro interaction involving mass defect are required to maintain a neutral/gap between all structures. A fission state can be artificially induced because this state is within nature of which we area part. The fusion state is not possible as it requires the internal pressures of a planet. It is the natural state of the process with regards recycling in the macro system that is important to being able to project the process into the micro so as to understand a concept whether it be artificially induced or of a natural phenomena. Thereby the LENR conundrum may be able to be explained as an artificially induced recycling natural process with regards quarks into hydrogen and hydrogen into quarks (LENRs being a part of the natural reaction omitting the fusion process).

    This will require a degree of consideration: Quarks as mentioned are neutrals that contain a degree of gravity because they have a composite vital structure. Thereby there is no empty space except at zero points within structure. If there is no exterior empty space we must exist in a solid system of a low density structure that exhibits mass defect. Planets are solid bodies with there central point of zero gravity between two gates that supply the zero gravity with a constant supply quarks from each gate. When quarks compress they glow. Within a planet they are in a contained environment. Around the zero point under extreme pressure they form into hydrogen structures containing potentials as previously described (maybe I have overlooked this point, if so I shall deal with it) and undergo mass defect. Thereby x2 quarks within one section of 120 degrees of the hydrogen atom overlap to a degree gaining mass defect and so too does the other x2 120 degrees. The mass defect represents two potentials of two quarks that because of unequal potentials form a neutral with a degree of binding between two neutrinos (the unequal potentials are due to the inner quark having more size than the outer quark that’s more volume. The neutral represents a stable potential between two points of zero gravity within the two quarks. Any quarks that descend deeper within than the hydrogen quarks form neutrons that display a more intensive reaction, when unbound, due to containing more mass defect. Hydrogen formed within theEarth is formed by the zero point of gravity within the Earth. Any hydrogen formed within another planet within the same 120 degree section section as planet Earth but deeper within the ‘time capsule’ will be more positive due to its dimension differential and thereby produce hydrogen of a more positive potential from the quarks of the outer system. Thereby the interaction of these two planetary systems will produce a mass defect with regards there individual exterior potentials. The Earth because of its more negative position displays a majoring.minor neg exterior whereas the more positive planet will display a major neg/minor pos exterior. Thereby the mass defect of the interaction between two gravity masses/planets would be able to fission any hydrogen from planet Earth back into quarks but not the hydrogen from the more positive planet, its hydrogen would require the body/planet in front ie. deeper within and being more positive to provide its potential spas to fission its hydrogen into quarks.

    The E-Cat has its two potentials of empty vessel and stable cubic neutral. Hydrogen is introduced. Hydrogen is fused from paired quarks into a 120 degree segment, one segment at a time i.e. over a period of time. The empty vessel within the E-Cat strips of the outer Major neg/minor neg potential of the hydrogen. As the potential approaches the empty vessel it becomes Major neg/minor pos. its paired partner the Major pos/minor pos. follows its partner becoming Major pos/minor neg creating a potential of a neutral between two quarks. 240 degrees is not a stable neutral so a chain reaction occurs. The reaction is a controlled break down over a period of time in a sequence of events. Thereby a low energy recycling process.

    Because there is no such thing as empty space, because of quarks, the entire system/’time capsule’ can be considered as a solid displaying a minute degree of mass defect. If mass defect is a phenomena of compression then a vibration must be a neutral activity that involves both time and space. The positive is the compression force, the neutral is the product/mass defect and the negative force is the readjustment which being within a solid translates as a positive force of transmission i.e. a reflective force producing an identical mass defect at the target area. Thereby does light travel within a space over a distance in a period of time? Maybe it is a transfer of force within a solid object that impacts a receptor producing amass defect of equal force. Sonoluminescence could demonstrate the thereof mass defect with regards quark matter vibration and reflex force.

    With regards the E-Cat. The production of quarks creates a pressure from the readjustment of the mass defect of the hydrogen. When quarks readjust they impact the quarks in the surrounding material substance and create pressure. The pressure can be measured as a degree of heat. The reason why LENRs create no harmful energies is because the reactions occur on the sub atomic level in a low impact controlled process over a period of time. In the opposite way in which the hydrogen atom was formed. I believe the hydrogen atom needs an explanation with regards its manufacture of potentials within each 120 degrees. In the meantime I hope this information is useful, if only for consideration. Regards Eric Ashworth

  • Leonid Alferovich

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Please let me send this link to my paper on Non Postulated Physics that could help applications on LENR: maybe you or the readers of this blog are interested:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rJ5PFrcu-0II0CqKIKK1zJlhu_KyCszq
    All the best,
    Leonid Alferovich

  • Andrea Rossi

    R.M.Santilli:
    Thank you for the link.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Bernie Koppenhofer:
    Thank you for the information.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Chuck Davis:
    This will depend on the agreements we will make with our Customers.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Chuck Davis

    Dear Andrea,
    do you plan to build residential electric generators and vehicular propulsion engines, or just heat for ohers to integrate them for those applications?
    Chuck Davis

  • R.M.Santilli

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    The forum http://www.galileoprincipia.org/no-universe-expansion.php has received a number of posts suggesting that the Dark Matter is fake science.
    Maybe this can be of interest for the readers of this blog.
    R.M. Santilli

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Dr. Rossi: I still think Cyclone Power is a good match for your
    current E-Cat. Below is the latest from them. Of course with your
    E-Cat there would be no need for the “sun” or the “storage” 😰
    POMPANO BEACH, FL, February 16, 2018, CYCLONE POWER TECHNOLOGIES
    INC., (OTCPK: CYPW) The heart of the Microgrid system is the new Mark 10 engine producing 1500 plus horsepower at 7′ X 7′ footprint. We are currently in
    discussions with a few OEM’s to manufacture and supply customers with
    the new systems. Our Microgrid system will allow customers to generate
    their own power from the sun. They can then store the heat for a
    longer period of time than is currently available in the marketplace
    through our new thermal storage unit. The stored heat is used in the
    Mark 10 engine to produce power to the generator which can then be
    used or sell it back to the grid using the latest technology
    available.
    Cyclone is introducing a Pioneer program for the first Microgrid
    systems and generators. Please watch for the details and updates.
    Distributors and Original Equipment Manufacturers who are interested
    please email Scott@Cyclonepower.com
    Bernie Koppenhofer

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    The issue is very complex. We got the certification for the industrial applications, based on the respect of all the items listed in the manual of operation.
    To answer I’d have to enter in details that are reserved to the Customers. Obviously for the domestic units the problem is exponentially more difficult, because the apparatus has to be safe even if the Customer does not read the operation manuals: remember the case of the company that has been held liable, together with the certificator, because a Customer put a cat in the microwave oven sold by that company to dry the cat after a shampoo.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi

    Any machine induces risks related to its use. I remember the problems that occurred during the Apollo 13 mission. Nuclear power stations, which were very secure, unfortunately caused some dramas.
    Can you tell us what are the possible incidents and accidents related to normal use of a 1 MW E-Cat? breakdowns, malfunctions, fire, poisoning, etc.

    All my support for your work

    Raffaele

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Readers:
    Please go to
    http://www.rossilivecat.com
    to find comments published on other posts of this blog.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Karl:
    No, the Rankine cycle can turn useful at low temperatures, but thoroughly studies we made years ago have convinced us that the Carnot is always more efficient if the primary is water steam.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Both.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Will Leonardo Corp be selling plants, selling heat (i.e. Leonardo retains ownership of the plants), or both?

    Best regards,

    Frank Acland

  • Karl

    #Colin Watters + Andrea Rossi:
    Is it not better the Rankine cycle for the Ecat, respect the Carnot cycle?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Robert Curto:
    I confirm my answer, but thank you for your interpretation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi,
    about the answer to Daniel G. Zavela Feb 16 at 8:43 P
    I don’t think you answered his question:
    What is holding up the certification of the home unit ?
    My answer is:
    When a device is ready to use in a home, this means that anyone that lives in a home can buy this device.
    This will include Joe SixPack.
    As a safety measure it must pass tests by UL.
    They have to make sure no matter what dumb thing
    Joe SixPack does, it will not harm him.
    Is this correct ?
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale Florida
    USA

  • Andrea Rossi

    Sam North:
    Thank you for the link.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Colin Watters:
    It is a technological suggested limit.
    600 C can yield 55 Bars, that can give an efficiency of 35-40% by means of the Carnot cycle.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Colin Watters

    Dear Mr Rossi,

    Earlier you mentioned the reactor could run with a secondary temperature of 600C.

    Will the industrial reactor be rated for 600C or is that just a theoretical limit for the QX reactor in general?

    I think 600C equates to over 250 bar if water is used.

  • Sam North

    Hello DR Rossi

    This is an interesting interview for you
    and the readers of your blog.

    https://youtu.be/dgz0bHHrDOE

    Regards
    Sam

  • Andrea Rossi

    Daniel G.Zavela:
    During a normal operation is one thing, but you have to make a distinction between a normal operation and an emergency operation or a wrong operation. Anyway this chapter is not depending on my decisions.I sympathyze with you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Zamburro:
    Tank you for your kind support to the work of my Team.
    To vaporize 1 kg of water at room pressure you need about 0.7 kWh of energy.
    I am not an expert of water treatment, therefore I do not know if this is competitive. I have been told in past that desalination is performed with reverse osmosys, that appears to be more competitive.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Zamburro

    Dear Dr. Andrea Rossi,
    >
    > My name is Frank Zamburro, I am Italo Australian, my family are
    > Sardinian, I have been in touch with you previously with regard to
    > electricity production,
    >
    > You graciously replied to my inquiry about steam production and
    > Carnot
    > cycle .
    >
    > I have been following your progress , and abstained from contacting
    > you, to avoid wasting your precious time, I felt when, as by your
    > comments and your
    >
    > announced progress , the finish line is imminent, I would get back to
    > You.
    >
    > Initially my inquiry was re. desalination, the electricity was an
    > adjunct which I thought might help the project. The project is now
    > only desalination, please
    >
    > Help with the following, How many Liters of water at ambient
    > temperature, can be vaporised per 24 hours?
    >
    > Expected total for a twelve month period?
    >
    > Running costs ( aprox ) for 12 months?
    >
    > Cost of One Mega Watt E-Cat unit, and is there any bulk order
    > special
    > pricing?
    >
    > As you have deducted, the steam requirement is to achieve the maximum
    > for the least energy use, and the greatest conversion to potable
    > water.
    >

    > Your work , achieved in spite of all the odds you faced, intellectual
    > and personal,
    >
    > is the greatest step forward our planet has ever witnessed, no other
    > comes close to the scope and effect for the benefit to humanity, our
    > environment,
    >
    > and the longevity and well being of our planet and all it’s
    > creatures.
    >
    >
    > God bless you and yours,
    >
    > Best regards Frank.

  • Dear Dr. Rossi:

    I am puzzled about the delay in certifying home units.
    Previously you stated that the need for a skilled operator is why industrial units could only be certified now for sale. Recently you stated “interventions are not made during a normal operation of the Ecat QX, during which the Ecat is completely autonomous.”

    What is holding back certification of home units?
    I would like to see your venture successful on a grand scale.
    Wishing you continued good luck with your product work.

    Best Regards,

    Daniel G. Zavela

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tamal:
    We have the certifications only for industrial applications. Initially we will surely sell only industrial plants.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Tamal

    Dear Dr. Andrea Rossi,
    do you think it will be possible to buy just a few units of QXs to warm one’s office and home? I can imagen big whales taking the whole pool for themselves.
    Thank you for all the effort with your answers, kind regards.
    Tamal

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eric Ashworth:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea, During your earlier explanation of LENR theory both yourself and Prof. Focardi mentioned the interior of stars as a comparison and I believe you to be right. Having considered the reaction, if as I previously outlined with regards ratios of Na/Li andPd/Ni, there could be a correlation between your micro LENR process and the exterior macro reaction of our system. This explanation does require a degree of consideration as it is based upon a hypothesis with regards a new understanding of mass defect and if we consider the Earth to be a fusion reactor and the sun to be a fission reactor. It has been proven that oil is not from surface decay but is a manufactured product of an inner Earth reaction known as abiotic oil. Thereby if correct, the sun may not be making helium, it maybe breaking helium into hydrogen and then down to quarks. This hypothesis I will submit later.

    The cubic neutrals as described earlier i.e. Ni/Pd = 6.8 – but 280 divide by 6 = 46.666666 thereby 1/2charge cannot fill, thereby the Ni/Pd cubic neutral remains a constant empty vessel. The cubic neutral of Na/Li is a stable six.

    If as described: The micro system of the e-cat has a vessel that cannot be filled representing the sun and the stable neutral six representing the Earth. Same effect but different dynamics due to e-cat being micro using an existing manufactured substance, hydrogen and the other being the macro system that manufactures and recycles.

    The hydrogen has to be introduced allowing the Na/Pd cubic neutral to gravitate the major neg/minor neg from the hydrogen atom towards. This could transform the hydrogen potential into a major neg/minor pos putting it into a state of flux. Its positive partner is displaced becoming a major pos.minor neg and these two paired quarks set off a chain reaction creating plasma that involves the other x2 120 degrees. 240 degrees is not neutral.

    I use the phrase paired quarks because this I believe can answer a problematic area with regards mass defect and sonoluminescence. Regards Eric Ashworth

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    The secondary design depends on the use the Customer wants to make of the heat. I Sweden at the IVA I preferred to avoid change of phase to avoid the usual chatters about the steam quality. Our primary’s T is 2600 C and over.
    Thank you for the inspiring links to the Bible.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Tom Conover

    Dear Andrea,

    Thank you for your reply to Elliot about the max temperature you can reach on a secondary circuit, specifically, you replied that the max temperature is 600 C degrees on a “secondary circuit”.

    (Q) Does your prototype design include this “secondary circuit”?

    Perhaps you whispered a secret to us, and I would like to thank you for the bold statement above, I was somewhat concerned that the industrial prototype might be limited to a very low temperature as demonstrated in Sweden.

    I found some very interesting encouragement recently, in Romans 16:25-27, that I would like to share about the “sacred secret” that has been disclosed to those that have faith (including you!).
    I hope you enjoy this information. It warmed my heart.

    Regards,
    Tom

    ///////////////////////

    Romans 16:25-27 Now to Him who can make you firm according to the good news I declare and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the sacred secret that has been kept in silence for long-lasting times but has now been made manifest and has been made known through the prophetic Scriptures among all the nations according to the command of the everlasting God to promote obedience by faith; to God, who alone is wise, be the glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen.

    https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/romans/16/
    … other than jw for those that like diversity …
    https://faithalone.org/magazine/y1993/93july3.html
    https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/command-of-god-the-obedience-of-faith

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    As a matter of fact, it was autonomus: I just had to stop it and restart it when we had to prepare it for the spectrometer or to substitute the Ecat with the dummies; the other intervention has been made when I opened an air intake window to change the air inside during the interruptions to keep it cool.
    These interventions are not made during a normal operation of the Ecat QX, during which the Ecat is completely autonomous.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi

    At the November 24th presentation, the E-Cat demo did not seem autonomous yet. It seemed to me that you were adjusting some parameters.
    Can you tell us if the E-cat 1MW will work in self-monitoring without supervision or human intervention outside the combustible change?

    Best regards

    Raffaele

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dario:
    Thank you for the link. Ing Michelangelo De Meo is an Italian high level engineer specialized in environmantal engineering.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dario

    Hi dott. Rossi,
    I want to inform you that there is a blog on Facebook in Italian language that every single day sustains your efforts in the LENR field. If any of your Italian readers wants information about LENR in Italian language, this is a group on Facebook called
    E-Cat del dott. Andrea Rossi (LENR)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/235806719875659/

  • Andrea Rossi

    A.:
    less than 2 years.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Elliot:
    600 C degrees.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Martin, Ruby:
    Correct.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    To all our Chinese Readers:
    Happy New Year Of The Dog!
    Andrea Rossi

  • Martin

    @Ruby:
    probably this is the reason why Dr Rossi cannot give away the IP of the old Ecat.

  • Elliot

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Which is the max temperature you can reach on a secondary circuit?
    Cheers
    Elliot

  • A.

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    How much long you think will be the payback period of an indistrial Ecat?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gus:
    Thank you for the link. Yes, I saw it, I would like to make that conference, organized by Dr Vessela Nikolova with Prof Vassallo of the University of Palermo and Prof Neri Accornero of the Univesrity La Sapienza of Rome, who participated to the Stockholm event.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ruby:
    The QX is strictly bound to the 2011 E-Cat. The know how related to it brings to the know how of the Ecat QX as a logic evolution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Claudio

    @Gus:
    Thank you for the link, very interesting conference and blog.
    Claudio

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    a- also
    b- also
    c- yes
    d- also
    e- do you have a ctistal ball at hand?
    f- also
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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