United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

 

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  • SK

    Mr Rossi,
    Did you consider that the COP you chime about is against the 1st principle of thermodynamics?

  • To Larry J:

    Coca Cola is a very poor analogy.

    In order to start a new beverage to compete with Coca Cola would cost at least $100 million just to set it up. And in order to be successful, at least a billion dollars: The cost of entry is huge. And the risk of failure substantial. So the risk of competitors sprouting in that industry is negligible. And Coca Cola has established itself as successful only after many decades in business.

    With new crypto currencies the cost of entry is comparatively trivial. So it is likely there will be thousands of cryptocurrencies developed over the next 20 years, all competing with each other as being the most convenient to use. Should BitCoin get to the million dollars you predict, there will be tens of thousands of new cryptocurrencies developed. The great majority will, after a flurry of interest, simply disappear from existence swept away in a deluge of competition, with owners holding a handful of worthless Bytes.

    Why would anyone bet a significant amount on BitCoin, specifically, being one of the survivors?

    But if you know the answer, please tell us, what is the incremental cost of producing a new cryptocurrency unit? (Not just a BitCoin unit. A ‘generic’ cryptocurrency unit.) In a competitive environment the unit price is likely to settle eventually not a very great distance above that level.

    I also have gained the impression that the posts I have seen lately on various discussion groups around the internet, pushing BitCoin in particular, are not being done by people keen the help their fellow man with a great investment suggestion. I have never seen anyone else here, for example, pushing ANY other type of investment. So it looks indistinguishable to me from a coordinated promotional effort (just like the ‘boiler room’ stock promotions of the old days where, when the sucker says to the promoter, “Thank you, I’d like to sell now”, the answer comes back: “Who to?”

    But please have fun with it on money you can afford to lose. A lot of people have lost a lot already.

    Rodney.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    So far we are within our schedule.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    What is your current best estimate of the probability that you will begin E-Cat QX production in 2018?

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tristan:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • LarryJ

    @Rodney Nicholson

    ==============================================================
    When enough new crypto currencies have emerged and the supply of them rises to exceed demand, their values will all fall to the incremental cost of producing more of them. Which is negligible.
    ==============================================================

    I would compare your argument to cola soft drinks. Although there can be any number of cola drinks in the world there is only one Coca Cola. It is still not cheap and Warren Buffet would argue that it was a good investment. Bitcoin is the Coca Cola of crypto currencies.

    Throughout the world people are bedevilled by the hyperinflation of their fiat currencies. At present the US dollar is widely regarded as a safe store of value by both individuals and governments. As a result many of the dollars printed are never spent but are hidden in bed mattresses and bank vaults. But all good things come to an end and if those dollars should ever find their way home then the US too could experience serious price inflation as does any country that seriously inflates its fiat currency. People throughout the world desire a stable store of value so where might they look.

    Bitcoin is the Coca Cola of crypto currencies and IF technology is developed that allows its safe, stable, fast and easy use for everyday trade it could easily replace all world fiat currencies since it cannot be inflated and it cannot be controlled. In my opinion a single Bitcoin could easily exceed a million dollars in today’s terms if adopted as a worldwide currency. A Bitcoin can currently trade down to one 100 millionth of a Bitcoin (0.00000001 BTC).

    LarryJ

  • Andrea Rossi

    Olaf:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anthony:
    No, I did not, but to believe it is useful to limit the global pollution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    I agree with your analysis.
    Not to mention the black side of that moon…
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • ANDREA: This is, of course, off-topic. Please handle as you see fit. Thank you.

    REGARDING:

    = = = = = = = = = =

    Matthew Browder
    February 22, 2018 at 9:20 AM

    Hi, You probably saw how Bitcoin increased over 900 over the course of last year. It was wild – but not totally unprecedented if you’d been watching cryptocurrency over the last several years. And here’s the crazy thing; There are many other coins that still have tons of room to grow. You may have heard of Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple, and others… …but there are more coins – and many more opportunities – Follow this link to get the full story. http://bit.ly/-cryptocurrency Best regards

    = = = = = = = = = = = =

    In economics terms the explanation is simple: The recent rise in crytocurrency values has occurred purely because demand for them has recently exceeded supply. When enough new crytocurrencies have emerged and the supply of them rises to exceed demand, their values will all fall to the incremental cost of producing more of them. Which is negligible. It might be under one dollar. I bet the inventor of BitCoin has already cashed in, and is sitting in his newly-acquired mansion on the IntraCoastal Waterway laughing.

    Buying them at these prices is participating in what in investment circles has long been known as “The Greater Fool Theory”. That refers to the situation when a belief arises that if you buy something at a totally silly price today, an even bigger fool will be happy to buy it from you, at an even more ridiculous price, later.

    Have fun.

    Rodney.

  • Anthony

    Dr Rossi,
    About the global warming: many sceptics have changed idea and now convinced themselves that it is caused by mankind activities; did you too change idea?
    Anthony

  • Olaf

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Have the data we saw during the demo at the IVA of Stockholm been confirmed during your R&D in the aftermath of it, so far?
    Best regards

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    It appears Nissan made something in this direction while replicating my effect.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, electric cars use battery energy not only for locomotion, but also to condition the temperature inside the car.
    In summer they have to cool off, and on cold days they have to heat the cockpit.
    All this reduces the battery charge.

    When in the future the E-Cat will also be certified for private use, it could be installed on all electric cars (an immense global market).
    The heat generated by E-Cat could in fact be used to heat the car and, in summer, it will be able to power an air conditioner to cool the car.

    Moreover, if the E-Cat could also generate electricity, it could supply the car battery, considerably increasing its charge and autonomy.

    Is this hypothesis a dream or do you think it could happen in the future?

    Kind Regards,
    Italo R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Matthew Browder:
    Sorry, but my opinion is that bitcoins are a frame for a ponzi scheme that will defraud the massive last wave of the persons that will buy them.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Hi, You probably saw how Bitcoin increased over 900 over the course of last year. It was wild – but not totally unprecedented if you’d been watching cryptocurrency over the last several years. And here’s the crazy thing; There are many other coins that still have tons of room to grow. You may have heard of Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple, and others… …but there are more coins – and many more opportunities – Follow this link to get the full story. http://bit.ly/-cryptocurrency Best regards

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    How is the work with the robotics progressing? Have you started programming them yet? If not, when do you expect to do so?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jerry:
    There are theoretical issues that make its existence probable, but we do not yet have a proof of its existence. It is a pity that the project of NASA to launch an observatory in the space specifically focused on the search of the DM has been now put on hold for financial issues, but…as they say, a project is not serious until its financing is put on hold.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dan C,:
    Very interesting. Thank you for your explication. As I thought, reverse osmosis is very competitive.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dan C.

    Dear Andrea,

    Those who propose desalination by distillation using the E-cat either do not consider or are not aware of the mineral scaling issues of the boiler vessel. Maintaining and descaling these vessels is an ongoing labor intensive process without which they become inefficient and soon fail. Scaling of reverse osmosis membranes is much cheaper and manageable.

    The cost of water by R.O. in the latest plants has dropped to less then 50 cents to produce 1 cubic meter of potable water or 264 gallons. That’s less then 0.0018 per gallon. This is still about double traditional potable water, but they continue to improve the process.
    —————————————————-
    New way to purify water could have you drinking from Sydney Harbour
    “Graphair”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKAIHBw_ex8

    This New Graphene Invention Makes Filthy Seawater Drinkable in One Simple Step
    https://www.sciencealert.com/graphene-film-water-filtration-drinkable-seawater?perpetual=yes&limitstart=1
    —————————————————-
    They are also working on extraction of minerals from the R.O. rejected brine. It was estimated that the market value of just Na, Ca, Mg, and K, if successfully extracted from the rejected brine of a desalination plant in Saudi Arabia, would be approximately $US18 billion per year.

    Note R.O. is still energy intensive for operating equipment such as the pumps etc… Should E-cat technology provide cheap electricity, the cost would decline further.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Raffaele Bongo,

    One of the disadvantages of using an oscilloscope for voltage measurements is the display of higher voltages is limited by the screen. For example, if I have 10 vertical divisions on an oscilloscope and the zero voltage setting is in the middle, and the scale factor is 1V per vertical division, then the maximum voltage I can display is 5 Volts. The plasma could be formed by a very short pulse with very high voltage and the oscilloscope would only show a vary narrow vertical line to +5 Volts. I do not know this for a fact as the information is confidential to Andrea Rossi. But this could address your question.

  • Tristan

    Dr Andrea Rossi
    Did you already reach an agreement with a strong financial partner?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jundt:
    Thank you for your attention to our work,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    No, this is a confidential information. No reason to ask for forgiveness: curiosity is allowed, confidentiality is demanded, both are legitimate.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Sandra:
    Thanks for your attention,
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello Mr. Rossi

    At the November 24 presentation the observed voltage was less than one volt and the intensity also lower than the ampere.

    Can you explain how plasma is obtained with such low value?

    All my support for your work and forgiveness if this information is confidential.

    Raffaele

  • Jerry

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Do you think that the “Dark Matter” exists?

  • Eric Ashworth

    Rodney Nicholson, Very interesting information with regards the dynamics of the system/systems and the two opposing camps. The expansion theory I am doubtful of but the existence of the two camps I am well aware of by experience and I agree the study has nothing to offer for the possible existence of dark matter. For me one camp prefers theory alone whereas the other camp prefers theory with demonstrable principles Regards Eric Ashworth

  • Jundt

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Thank you for the very convincing test at the IVA of Stockholm, I found it on http://www.ecat.com
    Godspeed,
    Jundt

  • Andrea Rossi

    Irina and Vitaly Uzikov:
    Thank you, I am deeply honoured to be taken in consideration by the Russian ProAtom.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    John Scott:
    I cannot answer in positive or in negative to this question, but it is true that around the plasma a magnetic field is generated
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Enrico:
    I agree
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    SK:
    Please keep me informed of the timing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Irina and Vitaly Uzikov

    Dear Andrea!

    I wrote an article in the Russian magazine “Atomic Strategy” and on the website “ProATom”, in which I cited an analogy with the development of your invention with the work of the Wright brothers in creating an airplane. The magazine should be out soon, but for now I am sending you a link to the article. I can say with confidence that the attitude towards your great work has begun to change in the direction of trust and recognition.

    http://www.proatom.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7884

  • Sandra

    Dr Rossi,
    In the 6 minutes summary of the Stockholm video at last I found the core of the Gullstrom-Rossi theory: much easier to understand in the summary than in the full video.
    Very interesting,
    Cheers
    Sandra

  • SK

    Mr Rossi,
    February is gone, you got 9 months then it will arrive December: come on, confess your promise to start the sales within this year is a bluff!

  • Enrico

    Dear Andrea,
    The perfect module would be an Ecat QX of 10 kW, easy to combine to reach industrial needs, but ready for domestic use.
    Do you agree?
    Cheers
    Enrico

  • John Scott

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Do you use a magnetic field to protect the materials of the reactor from the high temperatures reached by the QX?
    Thank you if you can answer,
    John

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rodney Nicholson:
    Thank you for your insight.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Henrik:
    Thank you for the information.
    Maybe we can be useful also in this important field.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Regarding:
    = = = = = = = = =
    R.M.Santilli
    February 19, 2018 at 6:20 AM

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    The forum http://www.galileoprincipia.org/no-universe-expansion.php has received a number of posts suggesting that the Dark Matter is fake science.
    Maybe this can be of interest for the readers of this blog.
    R.M. Santilli
    = = = = = = = = =

    My understanding is that a team at Oxford University started a project a couple of years ago to measure the red shifts of distant galaxies ten years apart. If the universe’s expansion is truly accelerating – as proposed by those postulating the existence of dark energy – then the equipment being used should be sensitive enough to detect the change in red shift ten years later. But I don’t think this study will have any relevance for dark matter.

    Rodney Nicholson.

  • Henrik

    To All:
    By googling ”reverse osmosis water temperature” I came across this link: https://www.aquaticlife.com/blog/how-temperature-affects-ro-water-production-/
    Here, the author clearly makes a connection between the efficiency in smaller plants, and water temperature (up to 100F).
    If correct, Your product would definately be of interest to owners of R-O plants.
    Since there are a number of bright inventors/entrepreneurs out there, I’m sure they’ll take notice once your product is introduced.
    B R, H

  • Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard:
    I totally agree with you.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Greg Leonard

    Italo R,
    The current energy industry would love AR to make all his IP available. The result would be the fragmentation and delay in developments – Big Oil would continue to make its millions for years to come.
    The parallels with Elon Musk are not valid, as electric cars are so much more expensive to make – the real drive there is to develop common standards to which all manufacturers can work towards.
    AR’s proposal of massive production at a price which makes copycat development not worthwhile,is the way most likely to get the results we all want at the earliest date.
    regards
    GL

  • Andrea Rossi

    Italo R.:
    If I put my IP in open source my technology will lose all the financing partners present and future. Nobody invests seriously in techs without IP in our sector.
    I cannot speak for the choices related to situations that I do not know.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    John Hawthorne:
    As I said before, I am not an expert of water depuration or desalination. The key question is: how much costs per liter the desalination of water with the existing widely employed technologies, like for example reverse osmosis?
    Knowing this, I could answer properly.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Italo R.

    Dear Dr. Rossi, did you read Elon Musk’s biography book?
    He is an exceptional and admirable man.
    Among the various things that have struck me is his desire to do good to humanity.
    Here on Earth with electric cars, and in space to make the man multiplanetary aspiring to colonize Mars.
    He managed with Tesla to compete with all the automakers who are now trying to do the same things but without the same success, since they are about 8 years away, especially in the production of electric batteries.
    However, Musk decided to make Tesla patents open source. He did it because he wants electric cars spreading more and more, even if they are manufactured by others.
    And this is admirable. He did not want to think only about his personal gain, but he really wants to do good to humanity.
    And even so doing, he is still getting great riches and honors, and his name will be anyway written on the History books.

    I was thinking about your E-Cat. Have you ever thought that if the E-Cat were open source there could be a faster development and an easier diffusion in the world, so starting to alleviate so much suffering in humans?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Musicist:
    You mean “The Pure ( Par s ) and Fool ( i Fal )?
    Well, this could be generated from the Epoche’ ( Husserl ) that is fundamental in my thinking procedure.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Musicist

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Your story and the words Prof Sergio Focardi said in an interview- google “Focardi: why Andrea Rossi made what all the others did not”- make me think to the character of Wagner’s Parsifal.
    Godspeed,
    M.

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