United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Victor

    Dear Andrea:
    You confirm that the 10 kW Ecat SK 10 has the same dimension of the 20 W Ecat QX we saw in Stockholm? It seems incredible.
    With high respect,
    Victor

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are making tests and we are satisfied of them so far. Obviously the difficult part is not to make a remote control, as modulated as it might be, but to make it impossible to be hacked. We are being helped also by retired military specialists of the field.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Iggy Dalrymple:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Fox:
    I think we will be able to adapt our remote control technology to most of applications, not all, though. Obviously a backup is necessary.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Kuba:
    We are making an exceptionally hard work.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Brent Whipple:
    I am totally privy of any knowledge about rockets. Good sense tells me that the Ecat cannot reach the thrust necessary to send in orbit a rocket.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Brent Whipple

    Dr Rossi,
    I suppose that jet engines fueled by the Ecat SK could be competitive with rocket engines to launch rockets.
    Did you consider this application?
    regards,
    Brent Whipple

  • Kuba

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    If you will pass from 20 W to 10 000 W in the same box we saw in Stockholm in November 2017, this will be a miraculous achievement.
    Godspeed,
    Kuba

  • Fox

    Dear Andrea
    Is the supply of heat by the Ecat constant or adaptable-mutable-variable by the customer? This implies a bidirectional communication between the installed Ecat and the control center. There are countries or even areas of a country (eg USA) where the Web works very badly with a high level of disturbances and frequent and long interruptions: In these countries or localities can the ECAT be installed?
    A warm greeting

  • Iggy Dalrymple

    Dear Dr Rossi,
    I think you mentioned that the e-cat QX had the more adjustable heating range. Would this mean that the QX would be more likely the eventual candidate for the domestic home heating and water heater?
    Best regards,
    Iggy

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Are you currently controlling E-Cats via an internet connection from a remote location, and if so, how well is this method of control working?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    I do not know what to answer.
    With that budget Leonardo Corporation is making a very good experiment finalized to the theory of the R.E.
    We invent and make in our lab new instruments and this helps.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    Ecat SK 10 is referred to the 10 kW prototype. By the way, while I am writing it is performing very well. It has the same dimensions and aspect of the 20 W prototype you can see here:
    YouTube Ecat QX presentation Stockholm November 24 2017.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Domenico Canino:
    Don’t say ‘obstacles’, say ‘work to do’.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • domenico canino

    Dear Andrea,
    What are your real obstacle now? Time, Money, Business Strategy, Financial interest in old fossil energies delayng LENR?

  • Dear Andrea,
    Thank you for your reply. You wrote: “The Ecat SK 10 is equal.” Is it a typo, did you mean to write SK 100 ?
    regards, /pekka

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi

    You said that Leonardo gave 20 000 $ in theoretical research. This budget seems very derisory compared to the challenge of this research and especially if new instruments are needed. Carlos can not even, with this budget, hire or buy some skills. He himself must be a volunteer in the case.
    My crystal ball tells me that there should be at least one more zero in this budget. Can you confirm the figure of 20 000 $ , and if so, can you explain how that work can do that with so little money.
    All my support for your team and especially today for Mr. Guilstron
    Best regards

    Raffaele

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gerard McEk:
    What we are proposing, as I said, is exclusively the installation of our Ecats in the factories of our Clients to sell the heat, controlling the plants in remote from our headquarter in Miami, wherever the plants might be in the world. We will maintain full property and control of the plant, while our Clients will save money paying our Joules much less that the normal market price. This will remain our policy for a long time, to maintain full control of our IP. We already have set up a remote control system that we deem almost impossible to be cracked.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Marco:
    Thank you for your suggestion, surely useful when we will deal with the domestic applications.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Marco

    Dear Andrea,
    So far you have 10Kw and 100Kw ECat SK prototypes. This is a suggestion for the future, because you have not the certification for household installation yet, but current gas boilers in Italy, the ones that serve both household heating and instant tap water heating for shower and so on, have a range of power between 21Kw (the cheaper ones) to 25 and up to 30-35Kw i think. Could you produce a single SK module of such a power or one must use a 100Kw driven under the limit or worse 2-3 10kw modules? A single 21-25Kw SK module would be simpler to control, service and maintain, i think. The set-up times it’s not a problem if it’s below 20-30 seconds, because current boilers have a steel plate to exchange the heat between a primary closed loop circuit, directly in contact with the flame, that is used also for the closed loop for the household heating and the secondary circuit for sanitary water, so the setup time is in the 30s yet. I mean this: if the setup time is low, the ECat can be used like the current gas boilers available in italy (heat the water as it’s needed) and not like the old electric boiler that have a 2kw resistance and a 50-100lt buffer. Thoughts?

  • Gerard McEk

    Dear Andrea,
    You said to Frank Ackland that the ‘proposal campaign is successful’. Does that mean that you are actively approaching potential customers for selling Ecats, or are you proposing customers that contacted the Leonardo company how they can integrate the Ecat in their processes?
    Anyway, I hope it will be a booming business!
    Thanks and kind regards, Gerard

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pekka Janhunen:
    There is the Ecat SK 10 and the SK 100. Just prototypes, so far, but at the end of August/ beginning of September we will have important results and we will decide.
    The Ecat SK 10 has the same dimensions and is equal externally to the 20 W prototype shown in Stockholm: it can be seen googling “youtube Ecat QX demonstration Stockholm November 24 2017”
    The Ecat SK 10 is equal. This important development has been contingent with the new heat exchange system.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    E.Hergen:
    It can work also for the QX.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • E. Hergen

    Mr. Rossi,

    can you use the newly invented heat exchange system for the e-cat qx , too?

    Thank you,

    E. Hergen

  • Dear Andrea,
    Are there separate SK models for 100 kW and 10 kW, or is there only one SK model which flexes from 10 to 100 kW?
    r:pekka

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Presently we are proposing our heat supply service to industrial concern that understand well that our Ecat does not emit ionizing radiations.
    As a matter of fact, our proposal campaign, that is on course, seems to be successful.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    The prototype we are working with now has the same dimensions of the one we have shown in Stockholm on November 24 2017: that one had 20 W of power, now in the same box we are testing the 10 kW Ecat SK. Many problems still to be resolved, though. The invention of the new heat exchange system has helped a lot.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Roberto

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Can you give an idea of the dimensions of the Ecat SK 10 kW could have?
    Thanks if you can answer,
    R.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    About the word ‘nuclear’ in LENR. Since most people are unfamiliar with the idea of low energy nuclear reaction, and are familiar with risks associated with nuclear fission, how does Leonardo assure customers that your E-Cat technology is safe to use?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your ideas.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Eric Ashworth:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Eric Ashworth

    Dear Andrea, As you are aware a part of the eCat process relies upon producing virtual particles (VPs). This current subject with regards VPs is I would say an emerging technology that will open up a whole new field in physics as people become more aware of how VPs can be produced and what they can achieve. VPs are formed when charges are distorted (the greater their distortion, the greater is their energy content) so as to enable them to transduce i.e. flip back to their original state with regards their original dimension and go beyond (hydrogen VPs provide a soft energy reaction). So here, I am referring to the Woodward effect a controversial science regarding a propellant-less propulsion, documented in Wikipedia and described as a mach effect thruster that is diagrammed as containing a capacitor and an inductor, these two objects are as capacitor negative and inductor positive. They are both identical objects being electrons that have gone through a series of simultaneous distortions to create a volume negative structure and a size positive structure. The diagram shows the positive inductor of size potential that does transduce to its neutral i.e. expand providing a forward push as the capacitor of volume negative potential simultaneously has to transduce also to its neutral potential i.e. contract providing a forward push by like repels like. However the system is not as simple as described because it requires a multiple step systemic system of interacting potentials to be produced within one time frame. This requires simple geometry with a delayed timing sequence of events to initiate an integrated single time frame within which multiple transitions take place as each VP potential has to transduce. The Woodward effect is within mainstream physics but Wikipedia lacks information although it does portray itself to be a comprehensive source of information i.e. everything up front, nothing hidden but couched in slanted terminology, no doubt they have their reasons.. Inertia is a part of the Woodward effect. All inertia is, is the distortion of a field at the atomic level due to an induced movement, the more dense the material the more there is to distort. This distortion is with regards the magnetic field of the atom. Semi/permanent distortions can be imprinted into hot metals when centrifuged to a cold state and exposed to light whereupon inertia becomes apparent. (boomerangs contain two unequal distortions when in motion). I have mentioned previously the linearizing propulsion mechanism (LPM) and this is where the Woodward effect slots into this technology. Low energy nuclear reactions also has its connection but it relies upon the hydrogen atom whereas the Woodward effect relies upon an electronic system of distorting electrons. To produce the Woodward effect you need a series of two pole DC generators so as to manufacture the required capacitors and inductors to achieve very powerful potentials. When electricity is generated it is generated from one element being the copper wire. You cannot have one element in two different states of its electron charge when within close proximity and thereby it has to undo its distortions in the form of energy release i.e. transductions, expansion of the positive and the contraction of its negative. This is done by almost forming a mass defect by attraction, that instantaneously transduce both potentials providing what is termed as the mach effect but the mach effect is not one single process. The LPM provides a minimum of eight curvature forces that interact to form four linear and four returning curvature forces which are x4 flux tubes from eight oscillating whirls. What it forms is loops of flow or a knot with a linear outflow i.e. a structure containing x8 spinning/oscillating whirls that transduce to x4 linear flows that becomes curvature on their eventual return i.e. on their event horizon. The Woodward effect does the same but with VP potentials i.e. inductors being the positive electrons and capacitors being the negative electrons. Dependent upon the purpose of the propulsion needed a specific number of generators are required to be connected so as to start in a delayed sequence. You can use four, eight or twelve but not sixteen as sixteen would give you the absolute planck number that would damage any structure in the immediate vicinity. Twelve would provide you with twelve positives and twelve negatives or twelve stones and twelve crystals dependent upon terminology. Thereby you would achieve 4 structures/charges at any one time comprised of x4 90 degree rotations of each generator These generators can be either built into the rotors of an LPM or in a linear format within the space vehicle. What is required, is that each generator is set so as to start in a 90 degree rotational sequence before the next generator is activated. On the 13th rotation the output represents 18 potentials pos. and 18 potentials neg.. 2 potentials = 1 neutral and 4 neutrals = 1 charge. Thereby -_/ 0_/0+/++ each transduce in 1 time frame between 1 potential thats gone to alpha and one thats not yet there i.e. at omega. Thereby 95777795. Once this sequence is established and complete the continuing rotations produce VPs that transduce through 4 transitions in space over a time within one frame between an anode and a cathode. Thereby 4 inductors and 4 capacitors that transduce providing the required push. The anode is situated beneath the cathode and from what I understand both the cathode and the anode have to be a hollow cylinder so as to distribute the heat. What this will visually provide is a red centre of the positive surrounded by a blue halo of the negative (should this set-up be run with a low cycle, I believe, it could be used for the electrolysis of water. Hydrogen from gas is less pure (see Wikipedia ‘electrolysis of water’). Also it is mentioned that extreme velocities create problems with regards human inertia and this is true. How is this overcome?. Well the LPM demonstrates how to achieve a static barrier layer so as to nullify a gravitational effect of a loss. In the LPM mechanism it generates eight oscillations and the same goes for the mach engine, it too generates oscillating transductions to achieve propulsion, in velocities that match the force of its propulsion. If you push and pull in rapid succession i.e. set up a vibration, nothing will move even if travelling over a distance, it will, with regards its atomic make-up appear to be standing still i.e. containing no inertia. The mach engine provides a vibrating thrust. I put this information forward because there is considerable interest in the Woodward effect as to whether it could be a genuine effect. I believe it to be genuine and realize that there is more to it than this information put forward. Also I must add that there is no practical use for such an engine by readers of Wikipedia and this is probably why Wikipedia does not provide extensive details of how it works. For people interested in this specialized subject I would recommend Wormhole Wikipedia and think of a wormhole as a minor ‘Empty Set’/flux tube that connects time dimensions. Also, I believe, you can only travel down and back up a flux tube from your own location, to go up a flux tube from your own location you are going positive and in theory your atomic dimensions would suffer damage. Something interesting to think about. Also have I mentioned neutrons as opposed to protons. the neutron is more dense than the proton because of its position of manufacture, what I think, is that the neutron is plasma of the north pole and the proton is the plasma of the south pole. Could it be that the neutron is masculine and the proton is feminine in a context of gender?. The north pole is situated more so on the event horizon of the overriding structure and flows with the inward force to the central ‘Empty Set’ whereas the south pole flows against the inward force towards the central ‘Empty Set’. What this could mean is more pressure from the North than the South resulting in the plasma taking a more central position and thereby producing neutrons and the south producing protons outermost and as I see it, without neutrons, nuclei of a nucleus could not exist (protons could be looked upon as providing cohesion at a distance and neutrons regulating to maintain distance providing stability). Maybe this is not relevant but just a thought. Regards Eric Ashworth
    P.S. This information is for theoretical consideration only, not as a practical assignment.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You may wish to consider developing a power plant for large and medium scale drones. The drone application world is rapidly expanding. But most are limited by the onboard fuel or the battery capacity. This causes frequent returns to be refueled/battery replacement and the drone then continues its mission.

    Imagine an eCat powered drone capable of flying for 6 months continuously or more. Improved efficiency as never having to depart from its mission to be refueled or to replace its batteries.

    Another application I have heard of is herd tracking in Canada for the oil companies. Currently it is done by manned aircraft taking pictures of the herds. I have heard they average 1 or 2 crew members killed per year because of weather (Controlled Flight Into Terrain). A long endurance drone would be less expensive and safer for human life.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Abe Vincent:
    Will do in future.
    Good idea.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Raffaele Bongo:
    I think yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    CC:
    1- we disassembled it in all its components to study all the problems for the evolution of the technology, from which the QX and the SK series have been born
    2- because it was not mature to be given to a Client for use, it needed our team on it 24/7, which makes no sense for a plant to be given to a Client. Enormous problem emerged, as well as solutions that allowed the new generation to be born.
    3- yes
    4- No. We are focused exclusively on the industrialization. The prototypes tests phase is over.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ulrich Kranz:
    We are working also on it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Drew G.:
    Thank you for the interesting link.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Drew G.

    Dr. Rossi:

    I am curious if you have read the paper by Stoyan Sarg (See: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299346794_Sarg-Ni-H-cold-fusion-cor} based upon his BSM-SG models of atomic nuclei in which he references the work of yourself and Dr. Focardi. If so, any comments?

    Drew G.

  • Ulrich Kranz

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Can you update us about the status of the R&D related to the Ecat SK 10?
    Thanks
    Ulrich Kranz

  • CC

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    1- what happened to the 1 MW plant of the 1 year test made for IH, after the settlement?
    2- why did you abandon its technology?
    3- do you think that your Ecats will be industrialized before the hot fusion plants like the ITER?
    4- are you going to make more public tests of the Ecat?
    Regards,
    CC

  • Raffaele Bongo

    Hello A. Rossi

    In France electricity is twice as expensive as gas.
    For a French manufacturer, will the E-Cat be more competitive than a gas boiler?
    All my support for your work and your team.
    Best regards

    Raffaele

  • Abe Vincent

    Dear Andrea, I will rephrase my question..

    Earlier you said you are recruiting people to set up and run your factory. Have you considered advertising these jobs on your forum?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Abe Vincent:
    Sorry, I do not understand your question: can you kindly rephrase it?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Abe Vincent

    Dear Andrea, Have you considered posting a list of positions that you are trying to fill here?

    Regards,

    Abe

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven N. Karels

    So is the interest in the SK approach only one of higher power density? Same COP? Etc.?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gino:
    Thanks for your attention to our work,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Abe Vincent:
    Yes.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N.Karels:
    1- so far the lower possible power of the SK is 10 kW
    2- QX is fit for all the lower levels
    Interesting the iceberg issue,
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

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