I am glad to hear that you will personnaly make the presentation on January, one question please what is the status of the 40mW plant ? will the plant be ready for 2019 ?
Italo R.:
Now the information is complete and interesting. Well, the Ecat makes heat, if there is need of heat surely the Ecat can help.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
“…A Finnish company called Solar Foods plans next month to start making a kilo of food a day from nothing but electricity, water and air.
The company will electrolyze water to produce hydrogen that is used, along with carbon dioxide and small amounts of trace elements, to feed microbes.
The microbial cells, with a protein content of up to 60 percent and an amino acid composition similar to soybeans or algae, will be heat-treated to form a fine powder, similar in appearance and texture to dried milk…”
Michel:
I agree, hot fusion will never be achieved. I also agree to the fact that the Physicists that work on it are mainly excellent physicists that dedicated their life to this dream. For the rest, I already gave my opinion.
The fact that now they say have reached the T of 100 million degrees is trivial: with the specific heat of hydrogen it is not difficult to calculate the energy you need to make one gram of hydrogen gas reach that T and we all know that we are talking of normal stuff. Now, if after 70 years this is their biggest achievement, after 100 billions combined spent from the taxpayer, they say that it is a success… I get confused. What disturbs me is the character assassination organized by the Eaters Huggers against us and in particular me, for fear that we show the naked king. I blame nobody and attack only when I am attacked.
We too have extremely difficult equations to go through, with the difference that we do not use the money of the taxpayer.
Yes, we are working hard also on the theoretical issues and I think we are at a very good point, but remember that mankind used for tens of thousands of years the fire before the formulation of quantum mechanics.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The difficulties in achieving nuclear fusion are indeed important. Magnetic confinement of the plasma, with the right profile is one of them. There are many others, like the behavior of components facing plasma: they will be exposed to fusion neutrons (14Mev) when the reaction will be self-sustaining.
For these reasons, giving a date for a successful nuclear fusion is not easy: in this area as many others, the equations are often ahead of the technology. For LENR, it’s the opposite: there are measurements but still no theory. By the way, are you still working on this aspect of your reactor?
We must not blame these Physicists, some of whom devote their entire career to this great project.
(Of course I have never measured anything on the E-cat, my comments are only based on what I saw during Stockholm presentation).
Michel:
Thank you for your admiration, but it is based on wrong presupposes: I always doubt.
I read about the Chinese experiment, but it is far from a hot fusion process or even a random event related to it. The real issue is the stability of the confining magnetic fields, not to reach a temperature with the hydrogen. In a separated publication on the same thread, you will read ” within 20 years we will reach the fusion”: the same mantra that goes on since the fifties. Every now and again they say that within 20 years we will have the hot fusion, or, better, with a singular coincidence with the time they look for funds they say that. Obviously, this is my opinion and obviously it could be wrong ( as a matter of fact, everything must be falsifiable in some situation to be considered true…).
About our presentation, the oscilloscope we use is perfectly fit for the frequencies we work at and the presentation of January 31st will not be a test of validation with externals, but the presentation of an industrialized product/service to our Clients. We are no more in the quest-for-a-validation phase. By the way, your comment is ambiguous, so it is better to make clear that you never made any experiment or measurement with us or with the Ecat, anywhere.
Finally, yes, we will display also the consume of the control panel with the cooling system.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
For the first time, a tokamak (EAST) has reached 100 million degrees for a fusion plasma.
This is an important milestone in order to achieve a true self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction, as the sun core behaves.
I will follow your presentation of January, with a critical eye as I did for that of Stockholm: will there be this time a complete input power measurement?
For correct measurement, I will use high-speed instrumentation for voltage and current since input signals appear to have high frequency components(as if they were choppy).
The synchronization between U and I must be perfect to not introduce a computation error. Assuming that the reactor input impedance is purely resistive, there should be no phase shift due to the reactor.
Sincerely, I admire your tenacity, you never doubt …
Gerard:
I have not read the reference you cite, but, if it is true what you say, the author is wrong. Gluons, considered gauge Bosons in the context of the Standard Model, are obviously fundamental in the strong reactions fields.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
How is your health? Your voice? Is it confirmed the presentation in internet on January 31 2019? If yes, will you make the presentation yourself, or you will need somebody to talk instead of yourself?
God bless you,
Teresa
Dear Andrea Rossi,
you wrote you took measurements with the Tesla-meter out of the Ecat: did you find any value different from zero? This would mean you produce current directly inside the reactor.
Cheers
Stacy
Dr Rossi,
I read today on “In search of the ultimate building blocks” of G.t’Hooft that tha gauge bosons are not subject to strong interactions. This contradicts what you wrote in past.
Gerard
Sammy:
In these cases the danger is the “positive bias”, that makes us so eager to get a specific result, to focus only on what does give evidence of what we are eager of, paying not sufficient attention to what does not. I call it “Troyan horse syndrome”, from the Troyans of the Homer’s poem, that were so eager to have peace, that they wanted to believe the horse was really a peace sign.
I prefer to wait before answering.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Do you think the results of the experimants made during the last week will confirm your theory about virtual particles and antiparticles as the source of energy of the Ecat?
Thanks if you can answer
WaltC:
Thank you to clear up the issue, now I have understood perfectly.
Yes, we have well in mind it. This is why we consider 1 year, because we experienced that after 1 year there are no problems either under the safety point of view or the technological and efficiency point of view.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
With respect to the “Safety Profile” part of my question–
It’s an issue that a manufacturer has in insuring safe behavior during certain failure modes, such as operation until there is a complete exhaustion of the charge.
For example, an alkaline battery simply stops working (nothing bad happens, no gas release, etc.) once it’s charge is exhausted. From a intuitive standpoint, I would expect similar, safe, behavior from an E-Cat (SK). Nonetheless, I would expect at some point, as a manufacturer, you would want to test this?
WaltC:
We did not yet run an Ecat to complete exhaustion.
Other answers:
1- yes
2- unclear what you exactly mean, please rephrase more precisely
3- so far 1 year is fine
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rudy Meiner:
Thank you for thre info. I do not think this can be coupled with the Ecat, it is a completely different and independent technology. Very interesting, though.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
I think this can work also with the Ecat: just google “Technology Review: an electric plane with no moving parts has made its first flight- by Erin Winick”
Rudy Meiner
Dr Andrea Rossi,
I was wondering if you have ever run a reactor to complete exhaustion (that is run it past the 1 year point until it no longer functions) and then analyzed the ashes?
I was thinking this could serve several purposes:
1) The ashes could contribute to your theory knowing the various final endpoints of the LENR reactions.
2) It could add to your safety profile knowing exactly what happens when something like that occurs (Murphy’s law says it will occur eventually even with rigorous maintenance.)
3) It could give you earlier data with which to determine the best recharge intervals (1 year could be statistically too short or too long.)
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn you’re way ahead of me on this– just curious.
Thanks
WaltC
Viktor Shipachev:
Premature. First, we have to analyze the data and study the theoretical implications, eventually, if there will be the necessary bases, we will make the publication, that will be signed by all the participants and where to publish we will see.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The reactions within your Ecat fuel appear to progress at a linear speed / rate through time, i.e. the same time between a reaction to the next to the next, is this progressive speed / rate of reactions over time fixed or can this be speeded up or delayed by changing some parameter.
I would understand that you can get a higher energy output by adding more fuel mass, but I was enquiring whether you could decrease the time between reactions, to then increase the energy output, i.e. engineering an increased number of reactions per volume per second, “burning” through your fuel faster.
1- Is there design or operating parameters that can be changed, so that for the same overall energy output over the current lifespan, would lead to a higher output per hour for a shorter working life of say 3 to 4 months or a reduced output over say 18 months.
2- Alternatively is the rate that the fuel “burns” fixed where you can influence the number of reactions that take place by multiplying the mass of reactants, but not the speed of sequential reactions within that mass.
Frank Acland:
Should I accept this I would receive several thousands of requests in a week…also from spies sent by competitors, or wannabe such. Our time is for our Customers, not for “not fully convinced” characters.
We allow private tests only after the signature of a contract.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
If a potential customer is interested in your E-Cat generated heat service, but is not fully convinced of its validity, can they arrange with you to witness a private test.
Dr Rossi,
Maurice Dippolito wrote the date of the presentation will be on January 24: is that a typo?
Chuck Davis
Dear Dr Rossi,
Have you determined if the Strange Radiation is proportional to the energy?
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I am glad to hear that you will personnaly make the presentation on January, one question please what is the status of the 40mW plant ? will the plant be ready for 2019 ?
Warm Regards,
Toussaint François
Sam:
Thank you for the link. Math right.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello Dr Rossi
This is an interesting opinion about Physics.
http://m.nautil.us/blog/the-present-phase-of-stagnation-in-the-foundations-of-physics-is-not-normal
Sixty Seven days until SK demonstration
if I did the math right.
Regards
Sam
Italo R.:
Now the information is complete and interesting. Well, the Ecat makes heat, if there is need of heat surely the Ecat can help.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Maurice Dippolito:
Thanks for your attention to the work of our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dante:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
I totally share your considerations about the hot fusion,
Cheers
Dante
Greetings from Ohio! I’m anxious to watch the presentation of January 31: can’t wait to see the SK light!
All the best,
Maurice
I have found this:
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/solar-foods-readies-hydrogen-to-protein-pilot#gs.liF=L8c
“…A Finnish company called Solar Foods plans next month to start making a kilo of food a day from nothing but electricity, water and air.
The company will electrolyze water to produce hydrogen that is used, along with carbon dioxide and small amounts of trace elements, to feed microbes.
The microbial cells, with a protein content of up to 60 percent and an amino acid composition similar to soybeans or algae, will be heat-treated to form a fine powder, similar in appearance and texture to dried milk…”
It seems a real thing. Kind Regards,
ItaloR.
Viktor Shipachev:
You mean: air + water + electricity = protein + hydrocarbons + fats ???
Only God can help!
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The Finnish company of helsinky Solar Foods produces food from electricity, air and water: maybe the Ecat can help this production?
Viktor Shipachev
Michel:
I agree, hot fusion will never be achieved. I also agree to the fact that the Physicists that work on it are mainly excellent physicists that dedicated their life to this dream. For the rest, I already gave my opinion.
The fact that now they say have reached the T of 100 million degrees is trivial: with the specific heat of hydrogen it is not difficult to calculate the energy you need to make one gram of hydrogen gas reach that T and we all know that we are talking of normal stuff. Now, if after 70 years this is their biggest achievement, after 100 billions combined spent from the taxpayer, they say that it is a success… I get confused. What disturbs me is the character assassination organized by the Eaters Huggers against us and in particular me, for fear that we show the naked king. I blame nobody and attack only when I am attacked.
We too have extremely difficult equations to go through, with the difference that we do not use the money of the taxpayer.
Yes, we are working hard also on the theoretical issues and I think we are at a very good point, but remember that mankind used for tens of thousands of years the fire before the formulation of quantum mechanics.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
The difficulties in achieving nuclear fusion are indeed important. Magnetic confinement of the plasma, with the right profile is one of them. There are many others, like the behavior of components facing plasma: they will be exposed to fusion neutrons (14Mev) when the reaction will be self-sustaining.
For these reasons, giving a date for a successful nuclear fusion is not easy: in this area as many others, the equations are often ahead of the technology. For LENR, it’s the opposite: there are measurements but still no theory. By the way, are you still working on this aspect of your reactor?
We must not blame these Physicists, some of whom devote their entire career to this great project.
(Of course I have never measured anything on the E-cat, my comments are only based on what I saw during Stockholm presentation).
Regards,
Michel
Michel:
Thank you for your admiration, but it is based on wrong presupposes: I always doubt.
I read about the Chinese experiment, but it is far from a hot fusion process or even a random event related to it. The real issue is the stability of the confining magnetic fields, not to reach a temperature with the hydrogen. In a separated publication on the same thread, you will read ” within 20 years we will reach the fusion”: the same mantra that goes on since the fifties. Every now and again they say that within 20 years we will have the hot fusion, or, better, with a singular coincidence with the time they look for funds they say that. Obviously, this is my opinion and obviously it could be wrong ( as a matter of fact, everything must be falsifiable in some situation to be considered true…).
About our presentation, the oscilloscope we use is perfectly fit for the frequencies we work at and the presentation of January 31st will not be a test of validation with externals, but the presentation of an industrialized product/service to our Clients. We are no more in the quest-for-a-validation phase. By the way, your comment is ambiguous, so it is better to make clear that you never made any experiment or measurement with us or with the Ecat, anywhere.
Finally, yes, we will display also the consume of the control panel with the cooling system.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
For the first time, a tokamak (EAST) has reached 100 million degrees for a fusion plasma.
This is an important milestone in order to achieve a true self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction, as the sun core behaves.
I will follow your presentation of January, with a critical eye as I did for that of Stockholm: will there be this time a complete input power measurement?
For correct measurement, I will use high-speed instrumentation for voltage and current since input signals appear to have high frequency components(as if they were choppy).
The synchronization between U and I must be perfect to not introduce a computation error. Assuming that the reactor input impedance is purely resistive, there should be no phase shift due to the reactor.
Sincerely, I admire your tenacity, you never doubt …
Michel
Gerard:
I have not read the reference you cite, but, if it is true what you say, the author is wrong. Gluons, considered gauge Bosons in the context of the Standard Model, are obviously fundamental in the strong reactions fields.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Teresa:
Thank you for your concern: I am well and I will make the presentation in collaboration with other persons.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stacy:
Yes, we found values,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
How is your health? Your voice? Is it confirmed the presentation in internet on January 31 2019? If yes, will you make the presentation yourself, or you will need somebody to talk instead of yourself?
God bless you,
Teresa
Dear Andrea Rossi,
you wrote you took measurements with the Tesla-meter out of the Ecat: did you find any value different from zero? This would mean you produce current directly inside the reactor.
Cheers
Stacy
Dr Rossi,
I read today on “In search of the ultimate building blocks” of G.t’Hooft that tha gauge bosons are not subject to strong interactions. This contradicts what you wrote in past.
Gerard
Anonymous:
Clients.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sammy:
In these cases the danger is the “positive bias”, that makes us so eager to get a specific result, to focus only on what does give evidence of what we are eager of, paying not sufficient attention to what does not. I call it “Troyan horse syndrome”, from the Troyans of the Homer’s poem, that were so eager to have peace, that they wanted to believe the horse was really a peace sign.
I prefer to wait before answering.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bernard:
No, we will show a video of the Ecat SK in operation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Will the Ecat SK be put in operation in direct streaming during the presentation of January 31st?
Cheers,
Bernard
Dear Andrea,
Do you think the results of the experimants made during the last week will confirm your theory about virtual particles and antiparticles as the source of energy of the Ecat?
Thanks if you can answer
WaltC:
Thank you to clear up the issue, now I have understood perfectly.
Yes, we have well in mind it. This is why we consider 1 year, because we experienced that after 1 year there are no problems either under the safety point of view or the technological and efficiency point of view.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi,
With respect to the “Safety Profile” part of my question–
It’s an issue that a manufacturer has in insuring safe behavior during certain failure modes, such as operation until there is a complete exhaustion of the charge.
For example, an alkaline battery simply stops working (nothing bad happens, no gas release, etc.) once it’s charge is exhausted. From a intuitive standpoint, I would expect similar, safe, behavior from an E-Cat (SK). Nonetheless, I would expect at some point, as a manufacturer, you would want to test this?
WaltC:
We did not yet run an Ecat to complete exhaustion.
Other answers:
1- yes
2- unclear what you exactly mean, please rephrase more precisely
3- so far 1 year is fine
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rudy Meiner:
Thank you for thre info. I do not think this can be coupled with the Ecat, it is a completely different and independent technology. Very interesting, though.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
I think this can work also with the Ecat: just google “Technology Review: an electric plane with no moving parts has made its first flight- by Erin Winick”
Rudy Meiner
Dear Andrea,
You said that in December you will have tests with two very important Customers — are these customers you have already signed contracts with?
Happy Thanksgiving!
Frank Acland
Dr Andrea Rossi,
I was wondering if you have ever run a reactor to complete exhaustion (that is run it past the 1 year point until it no longer functions) and then analyzed the ashes?
I was thinking this could serve several purposes:
1) The ashes could contribute to your theory knowing the various final endpoints of the LENR reactions.
2) It could add to your safety profile knowing exactly what happens when something like that occurs (Murphy’s law says it will occur eventually even with rigorous maintenance.)
3) It could give you earlier data with which to determine the best recharge intervals (1 year could be statistically too short or too long.)
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn you’re way ahead of me on this– just curious.
Thanks
WaltC
KeithT:
It is possible.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Viktor Shipachev:
Premature. First, we have to analyze the data and study the theoretical implications, eventually, if there will be the necessary bases, we will make the publication, that will be signed by all the participants and where to publish we will see.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
When and where will be published the paper reporting the tests of the last week?
Thanks if you can answer,
Viktor Shipachev
Dear Andrea,
The reactions within your Ecat fuel appear to progress at a linear speed / rate through time, i.e. the same time between a reaction to the next to the next, is this progressive speed / rate of reactions over time fixed or can this be speeded up or delayed by changing some parameter.
I would understand that you can get a higher energy output by adding more fuel mass, but I was enquiring whether you could decrease the time between reactions, to then increase the energy output, i.e. engineering an increased number of reactions per volume per second, “burning” through your fuel faster.
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
KeithT:
1- yes
2- It is ambiguous what you mean exactly. Can you rephrase with more precision ?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Toussaints Francois:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I wish you a great success at the January presentation, when you will fire up this “beast” will we see the incredible light emitted from it ?
Warm Regards,
Toussaint françois
Dear Andrea,
With regard to the output energy of the Ecat;
1- Is there design or operating parameters that can be changed, so that for the same overall energy output over the current lifespan, would lead to a higher output per hour for a shorter working life of say 3 to 4 months or a reduced output over say 18 months.
2- Alternatively is the rate that the fuel “burns” fixed where you can influence the number of reactions that take place by multiplying the mass of reactants, but not the speed of sequential reactions within that mass.
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
JPR:
I we will conclude that we obtained relevant results, yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
Should I accept this I would receive several thousands of requests in a week…also from spies sent by competitors, or wannabe such. Our time is for our Customers, not for “not fully convinced” characters.
We allow private tests only after the signature of a contract.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
If a potential customer is interested in your E-Cat generated heat service, but is not fully convinced of its validity, can they arrange with you to witness a private test.
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
We understand from your comment that there will be a publication of the experiments made during the last week. Do you confirm?
Eric Ashworth,
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Saul:
In December we will have thoroughly contractually defined tests with two very important Customers.
Warm Regards,
A.R.