United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Andrea Rossi

    Ing. Michelangelo De Meo:
    Honest and sincere article of this important French journalist.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gerard Mc Ek:
    1- maybe
    2- yes
    3- n.a.
    4- the same
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Marco

    Dear Andrea,

    since the thermal insulation should improve the efficiency, and so the required energy to a given output, and hence the COP, we could suppose you can produce at least two E-Cat X models: one optimized for electric production, and so with the best thermal insulation one can conceive (obviously also economically viable), and driven to produce the least thermal energy and the highest electrical output, that produces electrical energy only, or mostly, and one instead optimized for the thermal output, with probabily reduced total COP. And probabily also two or three other intermediate models…

    What do you think?

    Best regards,
    Marco.

  • Steven N. Karels

    Tim,

    While your proposed installation of an eCat unit on the outside of the house might (possibly) ease certifiers concerns and is certainly possible, I suggest that would not be acceptable for the following reasons:

    a. A Certifier would be concerned if a homeowner went ahead and installed it on the inside (i.e., the basement)
    b. Many people would not buy a system that required an “ugly bump” on their residency – aesthetic reasons.
    c. This make the home unit subject to more severe environmental conditions (temp range, rain, pests) making the enclosure more difficult and expensive
    d. This would raise the fear that the Ecat is so unsafe that it might “explode”, at least in the minds of potential customers.
    e. Running power to an Ecat mounted on the exterior is slightly more difficult because of those same environmental conditions.
    f. Unauthorized access (e.g., vandals, children, etc.) to a power generating device is a concern especially if it is operating 24/7 and the resident depends on it (unlike a temporary generator)
    g. A concrete pad might be required, as in an air conditioner unit (free standing) in many districts/zoning areas.

    It belongs inside the house probably near where the furnace and water heater are located, with means of dissipating excess (unused) heat, easier access to electrical power and perhaps plumbing, if needed.

  • Gerard McEk

    Dear Andrea,
    I just visited the updated website of the Leonardo Company. It looks nice and obviously I pre ordered an Ecat Home. Just some questions about that. (Sorry in case that has been already asked):
    1. Do you think the first certified version would also supply electrical power?
    2. Do you think that my PV panels converter may be used to convert that power into AC?
    3. Is it right to assume that the power rating would be in the order of 20-30 kW?
    4. Do you expect that certification for European countries imposes similar difficulties and delays as in the US, or would they accept the US certification?

    Thanks and kind regards, Gerard

  • ing. Michelangelo De Meo

    Cold Fusion: the energy revolution that everyone thought impossible … until billionaires and investment funds are beginning to believe (but will they be stronger than the other?)
    Andrea Rossi, an Italian engineer, thinks he has the solution. Wrong or real hope?

    http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/fusion-froid-revolution-energetique-que-tout-monde-pensait-impossible-jusqu-que-milliardaires-et-fonds-investissement-commencent-2506630.html

  • ing. Michelangelo De Meo

    Caro dott. Rossi:
    le comunico il messaggio scritto da Salvatore Valerio sul mio gruppo facebook:

    “gentilissimo andrea rossi. i tempi impongono un’ accelerazione per la commercializzazione in massa dell’ecat 1Mw. la cina, l’india, un principio di guerra fra i paesi mussulmani, la estrema debolezza dell’europa, le elezioni per il presidente degli stati uniti, il medio oriente, la crisi ucraina, la bomba h nordcoreana, l’inquinamento ecc impongono una presentazione al mondo dell’ecat 1Mw. le chiedo di presentare al mondo con qualche settimana di anticipo rispetto al suo programma. in fondo mancano solo meno di due mesi alla fine della sperimentazione. il bevetto oramai è suo e lei comunque passerà alla storia per la scoperta dell’effetto rossi. la presentazione al mondo dell’ecat cambierà sicuramente il paradigma con cui il mondo guarda se stesso. :-))) “

  • Lori

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    I have seen the new website
    http://www.ecat.com
    Very beautiful and well done. Suggestion: make the translation also in the other main languages.
    Cheers,
    Lori

  • Chloe

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    I am very impressed after watching the http://www.ecat.com website. Very professional, a masterpiece.
    It will help your commercialization.
    Chloe

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tim:
    Thank you for the suggestion.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tim:
    Thank you, but I want full victory.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Tim

    Dr. Rossi:

    If you have too much trouble getting the Ecat certified for use inside the house, you might consider getting it certified for being mounted on the outside of a house, or even in a concrete box 20 feet from the house.

    After the regulators see them working for a few years, it may be easier to get them certified for working inside.

    Tim

  • Andrea Rossi

    DEAR READERS:
    Please go to
    http://www.ecat.com
    It is the new official website of Leonardo Corporation for the E-Cat.
    It has been renewed substantially during the last 3 days, to prepare the new phase of Leonardo Corporation.
    Leonardo Corporation will go through a process of strong development to prepare the huge work that will have to be done after the end of the tests on course. If the results will be positive, we will have a huge work to do. If they will be negative, we will have an even more huge work to do.
    I think our website has been well improved. Suggestions are welcome.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Richard Hoagland:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Richard Hoagland

    just seen this wonderful interview by Huffington Post.

    Interview With Andrea Rossi, LENR Energy Pioneer

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-h-bailey/interview-with-andrea-ros_b_8248624.html

    Best Regards,

    Richard Hoagland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Lawrence H. LaFond:
    Interesting information, thanks,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for your passion.
    The fuel cells could be a back up for the drive. Do you have other suggestions?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Tom Conover

    Hello Andrea!

    Did you find the reference I sent you on 12.03.15 to the fuel-cell (SOFC) being used by Google, Walmart, and eBay helpful in your progress so far?

    http://www.bloomenergy.com/fuel-cell/solid-oxide/

    Do you think it might (also) be compatible with the E-Cat X?

    Please excuse my occasional anxiety over the release of your kittens to the world, I look forward to this event very much!

    Tom

  • Lawrence H. LaFond

    http://phys.org/news/2016-01-cheaper-efficient-hydrogen-economy.html#nRlv

    Dear Dr. Rossi. Thought you might find this interesting. Frustrated cooper’s pairs want to participate in LENR?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dan C.:
    I am sure your acquaintance is very well skilled, but I am Lready advanced with the certification work.
    Anyway your suggestion is useful for all.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you for the information and the links. 3D printing for ceramic prototypes is a mature technology beyond any doubt.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Joseph Fine

    Andrea Rossi,

    Perhaps this may not be suitable for mass production, or, perhaps it will be!

    In any case, it may be useful for research and developing prototypes.

    Do you need to print ceramic components? (See video on link below)

    Thanks to HRL Labs, now you can.

    http://phys.org/news/2016-01-breakthrough-ceramics-3d-technology.html

    More information: Z. C. Eckel et al.
    Additive manufacturing of polymer-derived ceramics, Science (2015). DOI: 10.1126/science.aad268

    The novel process and material could be used in a wide range of applications from large components in jet engines and hypersonic vehicles to intricate parts in microelectromechanical systems and electronic device packaging.

    Science 1 January 2016:
    Vol. 351 no. 6268 pp. 58-62
    DOI: 10.1126/science.aad2688

    Report

    Additive manufacturing of polymer-derived ceramics

    Zak C. Eckel,
    Chaoyin Zhou,
    John H. Martin,
    Alan J. Jacobsen,
    William B. Carter,
    Tobias A. Schaedler*
    + Author Affiliations

    HRL Laboratories, LLC, 3011 Malibu Canyon Road, Malibu, CA 90265, USA.
    ↵*Corresponding author. E-mail: taschaedler@hrl.com

    Abstract
    Editor’s Summary

    The extremely high melting point of many ceramics adds challenges to additive manufacturing as compared with metals and polymers. Because ceramics cannot be cast or machined easily, three-dimensional (3D) printing enables a big leap in geometrical flexibility. We report preceramic monomers that are cured with ultraviolet light in a stereolithography 3D printer or through a patterned mask, forming 3D polymer structures that can have complex shape and cellular architecture. These polymer structures can be pyrolyzed to a ceramic with uniform shrinkage and virtually no porosity. Silicon oxycarbide microlattice and honeycomb cellular materials fabricated with this approach exhibit higher strength than ceramic foams of similar density. Additive manufacturing of such materials is of interest for propulsion components, thermal protection systems, porous burners, microelectromechanical systems, and electronic device packaging.

    Thermal regards,

    Joseph Fine

  • Dan C.

    Dear Andrea,

    In response to Certifiers who give you grief,
    An acquaintance has offered to freely argue you case.
    I don’t know if it’s just her womanly wiles or what, but she is very successful at negotiations. Once and done…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eobuu-IexvI

    Warm regards,
    Dan C.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    We are working to crop reciprocal trust.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    If you put yourself in the certifiers’ shoes, do you see logical reasons for them to say no, time after time?

    Or, do you think they are just putting up any reason they can think of (even if it is invalid) to keep you from getting the certification?

    Many thanks!

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Matt:
    I understand what you say, but I do not agree. I will fight until we will get the certification.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Sceptic:
    Thank you for your opinion. Maybe it will turn out you are right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Matt

    Dr. Rossi, regarding your response to Frank (about returning and being rejected for one reason or another), always remember this: When you’re dealing with people and trying to get them to check “ok”, or to buy into something, there’s going to be 3, 4, maybe 5 reasons that “sound good” that they throw at you. Eventually if you keep going with the conversation long enough, you may be able to uncover the *real* reason why they’re rejecting you.

    Point is: If you spend a lot of time chasing down their reasons that “sound good” to them, you’ll spend extra time needlessly, and may never get to the *real* reason so you can resolve that with them.

    My thought: The reason anyone is going to reject this is because it’s not “common”, and it has the word “nuclear” in it. Finding a party high profile enough to say “I endorse this” is likely the only way to get around that reason.

  • Sceptic

    Mr Andrea Rossi:
    Your dream is just a dream , it will never come true because the results of the tests will not be positive. Do you admit it?
    Sceptic

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Both, because now I know the rules and have designed the E-Cat X to ease the difficulties. I come to you to get a thing, but you reject me for a reason: I lose, but I learn. I return to you, and again you reject me for another reason: again I lose, but I learn. I return to you…and this cycle is repeated if necessary one thousand times, because I do not give up: at a certain point I will have learnt enough to empty your reasons tank. This is how it works.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gerard McEk:
    Thank you for your care: I am very well.
    The issues that make a test sucessful are many, complex and interdipendent: safety, efficiency, duration in time, reliability, stability, competitivity, firness to be industrialized, robustness, etc, etc. Safety, obviously, is first.
    Yes, the thermal insulation saves energy in proportion.
    Theory: we are working on it. About the Coulombian barriers you are right.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    RJ:
    I do not remember either if I touched this issue here. Answer: the noise of the 1 MW E-Cat in operation is <55 dB(A) at 1 meter (circa 1.1 yard) of distance from any point of it.
    More 1MW E-Cats would emit about the same amount, because the decibells from more adjacent sources sum up logarythmically.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Mindy:
    Thank you: I think it is important if an inventor can also be the initial industrialist of his invention, to be sure it takes the right direction.
    A strong example: Bill Gates.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Mindy

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    I read your vision , published in your comment at midnight of the New Year First: I have ben impressed from your capacity to think big when it turns to your global strategy. We are discovering you are not just an inventor, but also an enterpreneur with a strong potential. I liked your anxiety to create jobs.I think we’ll see very interesting things from you during this year.
    Godspeed,
    Mindy

  • RJ

    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    I do not remember if you already have discussed the noise issue: does the E-Cat emit noises during its operation?
    Thank you,
    RJ

  • Gerard McEk

    Dear Andrea,
    I hope you are still feeling well? I can imagen that, while working on the invention of the century (that is what I think the Ecat is), stress due to worries about durability and performance must take a lot of energy from you. I do hope you do not ask too much of yourself.
    Just a simple question. While validating the E-cat X, what is the main factor that determine the usability? Is it the mechanical life-time of the reactor wall or more the ‘behaviour’ of the fuel’ ?
    A remark, which you must have thought of: I would expect that if you extract electrical energy from the Ecat, its temperature reduces (because the thermal energy goes down), that heat insulation of the reactor may improve its electrical efficiency. True?
    A last theoretical question, if you allow. In the preliminary Cook/Rossi document in which you explain that heat is produced of the lithium by fusion of protium with 7Li., which ultimately produces 2 alpha particles, it is not explained how this fusion is initiated. As you know a lot of energy is needed to overcome the Coulomb barrier. Do you already have a theoretical explanation how that proton/lithium is getting enough energy to do that? If so when do you expect to publish that?

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    When you say “we are making strong progress toward the certification of the domestic E-Cat”, do you refer to the low temperature E-Cat that is designed for domestic heating, or are you referring to a new domestic E-Cat X?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof. Neri Accornero:
    We are making strong progress toward the certification of the domestic E-Cat.
    If the tests on course will be positive, possibly all will come together.
    Thank you for your attention,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Thank you for your insight.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Matt:
    1- Go to http://www.leonardocorp1996.com
    2- Not yet
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Prof. Neri Accornero

    Dr Andrea Rossi:
    After the last exciting, but few, revelations on the E-Cat X, discussions on blogs seem to be geared mainly to the imagination of medium or high power stations, or even power stations “spread” on the street lamps; but I think the real innovation is the separation from the grid: antone can have electricity, light and heat independently on site.
    This is the great change that is coming.
    I am very happy to live this moment.
    Regards,
    Neri Accornero

  • Matt

    Dr. Rossi, in response to the statement about selling heat, two things:
    1) Who do I contact for specifics so I can write up a proposal for our people here?
    2) Do you also offer a service to sell electricity directly?

  • Steven N. Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I have been thinking about the Ecat-X and self-power issues. In the past, you have expressed certification concerns over the electrical output of the Ecat being used as the control input to the same Ecat.

    Suppose you have 2 Phase grid power available (Phase A, Phase B and Neutral). Could you provide power to a single Ecat-X module using the 120VAC power from Phase A and Neutral and then generate electrical power from that Ecat-X and convert it to 120VAC on Phase B and Neutral?

    Would this not provide “isolation” for a specific Ecat-X from its own generated power. Given a large number (an ensemble) of Ecat-X power generation units in a city, the power phases should be balanced on the average. In effect, you can “sell back” the generated power to the power supplier.

    For example, if a 0.5kW unit requiring 0.05kW of electrical power input and has a converter efficiency of 80%, it would provide an excess of 0.35kW of electrical power. In one year, each such unit would provide about 3MWhrs of energy. Assuming a sell-back price of $0.10/kWh, this would yield about $300 per year. If each unit cost $25 and had a lifetime of 10 years with a refueling cost of $5 per year the lifetime revenue would be $3,000 against a cost of $75 plus manpower costs.

    Thoughts?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Joseph Fine:
    1- we need to continue the test before being sure, but the ratio appears to be constant
    2- better described after the completion of the preliminar test
    3- now ( 07.45 a.m. of Jan 5) E-Cat 1 MW stable, E-Cat X still operating and promising
    4- I am undestroyable
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pietro F.:
    The data related to the COP will be given after the end of the preliminary test, but, obviously, the COP has to be higher than 1 to make the product promising.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Pietro F.

    Scusi la domanda forse stupida o forse già fatta, ma dall’ecat X esce più elettricità di quanto immessa?
    Excuse the stupid question perhaps or perhaps already done, but by ECAT X out more electricity than input?
    Buon lavoro

    Pietro F

  • Joseph Fine

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    For the group (aka ‘kindle’) of E-Cat X’s now being tested, can the output electrical energy to output thermal energy ratio be held approximately ‘constant’ or does it have significant variability?

    If electrical energy output is maximized, can the electrical output to thermal input ratio approach conventional methods of electrical energy production? Or should this be better described as a work in progress?

    How are the E-Cat and E-Cat X systems doing today?

    How are you doing today?

    Energetic regards,

    Joseph Fine

  • Robert Curto

    Tyrone, I agree with you 100%
    I did look up cacography, it means:
    poor handwriting
    poor spelling
    If what’s his name is referring to all the Posts from Dr. Rossi, there could be some misspelled words.
    A lot of people misspell words, and English is their FIRST language.
    If it were not for Spellcheck, you would not understand this Post.
    I don’t know if Dr. Rossi has poor handwriting, because all his Posts are Printed.

    Note to Kasom, you have ONE Post.
    Jango is Jambo
    Trough the last years
    Throughout the last few years

    Trough is a long narrow open container, for animals to eat or drink out of.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  • Andrea Rossi

    Lawanna:
    The Customer, so far, is buying the heat.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Tyrone

    Kasom:
    Your comment is a mambojumbotango and you do not know the meaning of “cacography”: do you admit ?
    I don’t see what is wrong if our Andrea says that he will continue to sell heat, while realizing the dream he explained at midnight of the new year’s first day.
    Suggestion: go to a dictionary and learn the meaning of “cacography”.
    Tyrone

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