1. Will the Italian coronavirus travel restrictions affect your demonstration?
2. If other European countries follow Italy’s lead, will your presentation be affected?
In recent days, one of the news subjects regarding the Covid-19 virus has been how dependant the world has become on fragile just-in-time supply chains spanning multiple countries, where for lack of a component from one side of the world a factory on the other side has to stop production. Dependence on critical high technology components, each manufactured in just one factory with highly trained operators with specialist knowledge that has been gained on a unique specialised production line, skills, training and processes that cannot be easily duplicated or replaced.
The E-Cat’s will eventually be mass manufactured, they will require supply chains and will in turn become part of the energy supply chain.
The controls may or may not use standard electronic parts, even in the past things like tantalum capacitors have been critical, a large boom in mobile phone manufacture led to temporary scarcity and a price rise of tantalum, people are often not aware of how many parts or what critical supply risk materials go into electronics, where they come from, or how dependant things are on single companies or factories that dominate world supply.
The critical E-Cat consumable part is likely the charge, a housing containing a fuel source, the fuel specifically structured to provide an environment, this environment has to be stable enough to allow a timespan between manufacture, shipping, installation and eventual use, at some future date an electronic trigger signal is applied to the environment releasing energy.
As part of the future energy supply chain, the world will become reliant and dependant on the quantity and availability of E-Cat charges in this supply chain, depending on location of manufacturing sites, shipping, supply and demand by location, stockpiles, all impacted by charge shelf life.
From the date of manufacture how long can an E-Cat charge be stored before it requires to be used; weeks, months, or years?
Koen Vandewalle:
Years ago I used to watch the tennis balls hitting the tank of the fury of our work. Today I don’t even see them. No highways, though: I expect we will have to cross an unexplored mined field. But we are getting stronger every day, working hard.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Daniel G. Zavela:
1- because we have a huge background history and experience
2- yes: the E-Cat has been born by a great Team: one important member of our Team is also the body of the Readers of this blog.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The following is just a bit of news that arguably is relevant to your planning of the upcoming SKL presentation.
Link>> https://youtu.be/AFnFulwahVI
Oddly, at least for me, it brings forward a strange use of Schrodinger’s famous cat.
One can neither say that Russia and OPEC+ absolutely had a breakdown in negotiations due to the pending introduction of the SKL nor that Russia and OPEC+ absolutely did not have a breakdown in negotiations due to the pending introduction of the SKL.
I believe one thing is certain. The central players of the oil industry know about you, the SKL, and the pending presentation.
You have implied that the certification for home use for the E-Cat SKL electric module will be easier than for the E-Cat SK heat module. Why do you feel the SKL will be “easier to certify” for home use?
Did your new partners bring some additional skills or knowledge to the development of the E-Cat SKL as this appears to be an unexpected success?
Wishing you great luck with independent testing of the E-Cat SKL.
Hello Andrea,
A few years ago, tennis balls were regularly thrown to a tank. Are they still throwing, or have they installed tank barriers, or a minefield?
Or is the meaninglessness of resistance clear enough in the meantime, and do you notice that highways are being built for tanks?
It’s great that we can continue to monitor the pulse of a living and healthy inventor every day.
For the forthcoming public test/demonstration, I suggest the following:
1. Measure & Record the electrical output over time (i.e., a plot/computer printout or data)
2. Measure & Record the thermal output over time
3. Measure & Record any energy input over time
4. Measure & Record the test unit’s mass before and after the test.
5. Allow no access or changes to the test unit during the public test/demonstration time (assumed to be a few hours or less in duration).
6. Provide calibration data for the input and output measurements acquired before the public test/demonstration period.
7. Perform the non-public tests/demonstrations prior to the public test/demonstration at least 10 times flawlessly before the public test/demonstration. No errors allowed.
8. Provide summary data from the independent test organization for longer periods of operation to show non-chemical processes are in effect.
Lastly, do not rush to make the presentation. No changes to the SKL configuration for at least two weeks prior to the last test sequence and before the public test/demonstration. There is only one chance to make a good first impression!
You commented that the longest
the ECat- SKL has run continuously
is several days.How long does it have
to run continuously to obtain Safety
Certification?
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea,
Here is a test that could easily be implemented:
1.Purchase a new gasoline driven car with a fully charged battery.
2.Remove all gasoline.
3.Turn on the headlights.
4.Record the time that the battery can keep the lights illuminated.
5.Remove the battery from its compartment.
6.Replace your unit with its electronics into the battery compartment(should fit),
7.Turn on the headlights and run continuously.
8.Run the unit as long as necessary to assure that no hidden energy source could have kept the lights illuminated.
9.Replace a fully charged battery into the car and repeat the test.
I think that at the very least a battery manufacturer would pay any amount if he could obtain access to your device.
Testing regards.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The report that will be released by third parties will certainly contain all the assessments and measurements made.
A very important part of this report must contain the certification that secret energy sources are not contained in all Ecat SKL components, and that the only energy source is the reactor itself.
To write this, these scientists will need to have access to all internal parts.
This was what I meant when I wrote “internal inspection”.
So my question is, “Will they be allowed to do such internal inspections?”
Your comments and questions I found most amusing, I am guessing that for most of the readers of the JONP your post went completely over their heads. Amusing because I know exactly what you are referring to. I will therefore answer your questions.
Q1. It has not become feasible and never will. Totally unnecessary.
Regards future possibilities:
A. This will be a none issue.
B. Will be the preferred option.
Q2. Scenario B.
Q3. Scenario B.
Q4. Scenario B.
My own thoughts are that I would design fuel for a two way very long flight with E Cat technicians on board.
Q5. No E Cat powered plane (obviously not a plane as generally understood to be because of the vast distance it would be required to
travel) would be designed for a one way journey.
I can see you are a lover of the lily, same as me.
Regards Eric Ashworth
P.S. Dear Andrea, I know these questions were for you but I could not resist responding to LilyLover, his post was far too enticing to resist.
Dear Andrea,
This is what I commented on E-catWorld where Frank Acland issued his question and your reply that testing will start mid of March 2020:
“Thanks Frank, I was just thinking of asking him the same question.
Well guys, the hour of the truth is approaching. Hoping is not enough, do something:
Keep our fingers crossed, pray to the Lord, use your willpower and want it to succeed, or do whatever you do to make something a success that isn’t in your hands. I do them all 🙂
Success Andrea!”
I got many thumbs up, so many will spiritually help you to succeed.
Kind regards, Gerard
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The confirmation that the actual tests will start in the second half of this month is an excellent news.
May I ask if the test will include the internal inspection of the reactor?
My best Regards,
Italo R.
Even though you state that the E-Cat SKL produces heat without nuclear reactions, can you use the same effect – the production of the plasma ball or ballerina in http://www.ecatskdemo.com – to produce nuclear reactions if you so choose? For example, by changing the fuel composition, adjusting the input, etc.
1 Are the ECat SKL third part
tests being done in USA or Europe?
2 How many persons are doing the
testing?
3 What different kinds of testing
are being done on the SKL?
4 Will you receive updates on how
the tests are going?
The safety certification for use in each world region is different, there is some countries that will recognise other countries certification but a number who will not. For use in EU countries there is a requirement to meet the essential safety requirements of each applicable EU safety directive, in the case of the E-Cat I suspect you will have any device examined by a EU accredited notified body for compliance with the machinery directive 2006/42/EC and all applicable supporting EN standards, the safety certification obtained then allows the application of a CE mark, allowing placing on the market within EU countries. However having EU safety certification will not allow use in the USA or say China, and at some point in the near future due to Brexit the UK will no longer accept the CE mark, new certification will be required with a UKCA mark, for the USA there is likely to be separate testing to obtain the necessary certification to be in compliance with USA regulations, then examination and possible testing for China, India, Russia, etc. Safety certification is a very complex, time consuming, expensive subject, requires local expert knowledge of each of the countries around the world.
Country regulations can be so different that in one country there may be no applicable regulation but in another there is a strict regulation, the EU has been very efficient in creating regulations that have no equivalent in many other countries.
Regarding legalities, when you place your E-Cat on the market it is likely that there will be companies and individuals who will try to claim infringement of their patents, but these patents may only be applicable in one country, so for the duration of a dispute you may still sell into the market in one country while blocked from another.
So, my original question relates to whether it was viewed as being easier to initially target certification for use in individual countries / regions or will multiple testing and certification be attempted to allow as wide a distribution as possible on product launch.
I watched
http://www.ecatskdemo.com
and confronted it with
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
and i think you should extract electricity from different lines inside the plasma area, because there are zones that should generate more current. Do you have more sources of electric power from which you draw electricity from the “ballerina” ?
Yuri
Dr. Rossi:
Two questions:
1. Will you use a commercial delivery service to transport the ECAT SKL to Europe for testing or will you personally deliver it?
2. Will you be present during the tests?
Looking forward to very successful test results.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
1. Will the Italian coronavirus travel restrictions affect your demonstration?
2. If other European countries follow Italy’s lead, will your presentation be affected?
KeithT:
Years.
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
In recent days, one of the news subjects regarding the Covid-19 virus has been how dependant the world has become on fragile just-in-time supply chains spanning multiple countries, where for lack of a component from one side of the world a factory on the other side has to stop production. Dependence on critical high technology components, each manufactured in just one factory with highly trained operators with specialist knowledge that has been gained on a unique specialised production line, skills, training and processes that cannot be easily duplicated or replaced.
The E-Cat’s will eventually be mass manufactured, they will require supply chains and will in turn become part of the energy supply chain.
The controls may or may not use standard electronic parts, even in the past things like tantalum capacitors have been critical, a large boom in mobile phone manufacture led to temporary scarcity and a price rise of tantalum, people are often not aware of how many parts or what critical supply risk materials go into electronics, where they come from, or how dependant things are on single companies or factories that dominate world supply.
The critical E-Cat consumable part is likely the charge, a housing containing a fuel source, the fuel specifically structured to provide an environment, this environment has to be stable enough to allow a timespan between manufacture, shipping, installation and eventual use, at some future date an electronic trigger signal is applied to the environment releasing energy.
As part of the future energy supply chain, the world will become reliant and dependant on the quantity and availability of E-Cat charges in this supply chain, depending on location of manufacturing sites, shipping, supply and demand by location, stockpiles, all impacted by charge shelf life.
From the date of manufacture how long can an E-Cat charge be stored before it requires to be used; weeks, months, or years?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Roger:
Europe,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Are the protocols for the third party testing of the E-Cat SKL decided now?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Dr Rossi,
Will t he independent test of the Ecat SKL be made in Europe or in the USA ?
Koen Vandewalle:
Years ago I used to watch the tennis balls hitting the tank of the fury of our work. Today I don’t even see them. No highways, though: I expect we will have to cross an unexplored mined field. But we are getting stronger every day, working hard.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Daniel G. Zavela:
1- because we have a huge background history and experience
2- yes: the E-Cat has been born by a great Team: one important member of our Team is also the body of the Readers of this blog.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Buck:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I hope this finds you all doing well.
The following is just a bit of news that arguably is relevant to your planning of the upcoming SKL presentation.
Link>> https://youtu.be/AFnFulwahVI
Oddly, at least for me, it brings forward a strange use of Schrodinger’s famous cat.
One can neither say that Russia and OPEC+ absolutely had a breakdown in negotiations due to the pending introduction of the SKL nor that Russia and OPEC+ absolutely did not have a breakdown in negotiations due to the pending introduction of the SKL.
I believe one thing is certain. The central players of the oil industry know about you, the SKL, and the pending presentation.
My best to you all,
Sincerely,
Mason Ainsworth
ps. Didn’t the recent ARAMCO IPO fail?
Dear Dr. Rossi,
You have implied that the certification for home use for the E-Cat SKL electric module will be easier than for the E-Cat SK heat module. Why do you feel the SKL will be “easier to certify” for home use?
Did your new partners bring some additional skills or knowledge to the development of the E-Cat SKL as this appears to be an unexpected success?
Wishing you great luck with independent testing of the E-Cat SKL.
Best Regards,
Daniel G. Zavela
Hello Andrea,
A few years ago, tennis balls were regularly thrown to a tank. Are they still throwing, or have they installed tank barriers, or a minefield?
Or is the meaninglessness of resistance clear enough in the meantime, and do you notice that highways are being built for tanks?
It’s great that we can continue to monitor the pulse of a living and healthy inventor every day.
Greetings,
Koen
KeithT:
Many.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
Will you be doing reliability testing
on the ECat-SKL?
https://www.nts.com/services/testing/product-reliability/
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea,
Since 2011, how many times have E-Cats been tested by a recognised authority for a safety certificate.
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Steven N. Karels,
Thank you for the suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
For the forthcoming public test/demonstration, I suggest the following:
1. Measure & Record the electrical output over time (i.e., a plot/computer printout or data)
2. Measure & Record the thermal output over time
3. Measure & Record any energy input over time
4. Measure & Record the test unit’s mass before and after the test.
5. Allow no access or changes to the test unit during the public test/demonstration time (assumed to be a few hours or less in duration).
6. Provide calibration data for the input and output measurements acquired before the public test/demonstration period.
7. Perform the non-public tests/demonstrations prior to the public test/demonstration at least 10 times flawlessly before the public test/demonstration. No errors allowed.
8. Provide summary data from the independent test organization for longer periods of operation to show non-chemical processes are in effect.
Lastly, do not rush to make the presentation. No changes to the SKL configuration for at least two weeks prior to the last test sequence and before the public test/demonstration. There is only one chance to make a good first impression!
Prof:
Unbelievable.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Here are the new stats on Researchgate
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Total full Readings: 45038
Citations: 15
Recommendations: 2116
Total Research Interest Index: 645.2
…and counting !
Prof
Sam:
Several days.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
the production of eleectricity has increased respect the expectations. Made changements to the technology.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Good to hear you are so optimistic. Can you say what made today and yesterday so great?
Best wishes,
Frank Acland
Hello DR Rossi
You commented that the longest
the ECat- SKL has run continuously
is several days.How long does it have
to run continuously to obtain Safety
Certification?
Regards
Sam
Eernie1:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Here is a test that could easily be implemented:
1.Purchase a new gasoline driven car with a fully charged battery.
2.Remove all gasoline.
3.Turn on the headlights.
4.Record the time that the battery can keep the lights illuminated.
5.Remove the battery from its compartment.
6.Replace your unit with its electronics into the battery compartment(should fit),
7.Turn on the headlights and run continuously.
8.Run the unit as long as necessary to assure that no hidden energy source could have kept the lights illuminated.
9.Replace a fully charged battery into the car and repeat the test.
I think that at the very least a battery manufacturer would pay any amount if he could obtain access to your device.
Testing regards.
Gerard McEk:
I am delighted to read this.
I am very optimist. A great day yesterday and today.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Italo R.:
This kind of inspection is obvious.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The report that will be released by third parties will certainly contain all the assessments and measurements made.
A very important part of this report must contain the certification that secret energy sources are not contained in all Ecat SKL components, and that the only energy source is the reactor itself.
To write this, these scientists will need to have access to all internal parts.
This was what I meant when I wrote “internal inspection”.
So my question is, “Will they be allowed to do such internal inspections?”
Kind Regards,
Italo R.
Dear LilyLover Regards March 4th
Your comments and questions I found most amusing, I am guessing that for most of the readers of the JONP your post went completely over their heads. Amusing because I know exactly what you are referring to. I will therefore answer your questions.
Q1. It has not become feasible and never will. Totally unnecessary.
Regards future possibilities:
A. This will be a none issue.
B. Will be the preferred option.
Q2. Scenario B.
Q3. Scenario B.
Q4. Scenario B.
My own thoughts are that I would design fuel for a two way very long flight with E Cat technicians on board.
Q5. No E Cat powered plane (obviously not a plane as generally understood to be because of the vast distance it would be required to
travel) would be designed for a one way journey.
I can see you are a lover of the lily, same as me.
Regards Eric Ashworth
P.S. Dear Andrea, I know these questions were for you but I could not resist responding to LilyLover, his post was far too enticing to resist.
Dear Andrea,
This is what I commented on E-catWorld where Frank Acland issued his question and your reply that testing will start mid of March 2020:
“Thanks Frank, I was just thinking of asking him the same question.
Well guys, the hour of the truth is approaching. Hoping is not enough, do something:
Keep our fingers crossed, pray to the Lord, use your willpower and want it to succeed, or do whatever you do to make something a success that isn’t in your hands. I do them all 🙂
Success Andrea!”
I got many thumbs up, so many will spiritually help you to succeed.
Kind regards, Gerard
Italo R.:
What do you mean exactly by “internal inspection” ?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Paul:
we continue to start and stop for corrections and controls, the longest period has been several days.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
WaltC:
1 yes
2 during the presentation
3 enough
4 yes
5 not yet
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi,
Now that the E-Cat SKL is ready for independent testing:
1) are you happy with the current device?
Specifically, are you happy with its:
2) Specs (for example: size and power output)?
3) Stability?
4) Manufacturability?
5) Finally, on November 15, 2018 you said that the SK device was a “magnificence”, do you now also feel that way about the current SKL device?
Thanks and best wishes with the upcoming independent testing,
WaltC
Andrea,
As of today, what is the longest period of time that an E-Cat SKL has been running continuously in self sustaining mode?
V/R,
Paul
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The confirmation that the actual tests will start in the second half of this month is an excellent news.
May I ask if the test will include the internal inspection of the reactor?
My best Regards,
Italo R.
PlasmaFan:
No.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
The protocols preparation yes. The actual tests will start in the second half of this month
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Are the third party tests taking place yet?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea,
Even though you state that the E-Cat SKL produces heat without nuclear reactions, can you use the same effect – the production of the plasma ball or ballerina in http://www.ecatskdemo.com – to produce nuclear reactions if you so choose? For example, by changing the fuel composition, adjusting the input, etc.
Thanks!
Milan:
It is for safety reasons.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi
You emphasized that the ECat SKL is for ground use, and only for ground use.
Is that for:
1. Safety reasons?
and/or
2. Does the ECat SKL need an electrical grounding to create a potential?
Best,
Milan
KeithT:
The certifications are global.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
1 Europe
2 enough
3 will be explained in due time, during the presentation
4 no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
1 Are the ECat SKL third part
tests being done in USA or Europe?
2 How many persons are doing the
testing?
3 What different kinds of testing
are being done on the SKL?
4 Will you receive updates on how
the tests are going?
Regards
Sam
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea,
The safety certification for use in each world region is different, there is some countries that will recognise other countries certification but a number who will not. For use in EU countries there is a requirement to meet the essential safety requirements of each applicable EU safety directive, in the case of the E-Cat I suspect you will have any device examined by a EU accredited notified body for compliance with the machinery directive 2006/42/EC and all applicable supporting EN standards, the safety certification obtained then allows the application of a CE mark, allowing placing on the market within EU countries. However having EU safety certification will not allow use in the USA or say China, and at some point in the near future due to Brexit the UK will no longer accept the CE mark, new certification will be required with a UKCA mark, for the USA there is likely to be separate testing to obtain the necessary certification to be in compliance with USA regulations, then examination and possible testing for China, India, Russia, etc. Safety certification is a very complex, time consuming, expensive subject, requires local expert knowledge of each of the countries around the world.
Country regulations can be so different that in one country there may be no applicable regulation but in another there is a strict regulation, the EU has been very efficient in creating regulations that have no equivalent in many other countries.
Regarding legalities, when you place your E-Cat on the market it is likely that there will be companies and individuals who will try to claim infringement of their patents, but these patents may only be applicable in one country, so for the duration of a dispute you may still sell into the market in one country while blocked from another.
So, my original question relates to whether it was viewed as being easier to initially target certification for use in individual countries / regions or will multiple testing and certification be attempted to allow as wide a distribution as possible on product launch.
Regards,
Keith Thomson.