Dear Andrea,
I hope it is possible to change my guess of the E-cat SKL properties. I changed it because of your last answer to me.
The revised properties are now:
Size: 10x10x10 cm
Total output power: 1000W
Electrical usable output power: 900W
Residual heat output power: 100W
Consequently the ‘efficiency’ is 90%
Power usage of the controller is peanuts.
Can you give us some idea how the testing is progressing?
Kind regards and all the best, Gerard
The efficiency parameter measures the ability of the E-Cat SKL to generate usable electrical power from the total power it produces.
This is interesting in order to compare the E-Cat SKL to other heat to electricity conversion systems like turbines, combustion generators, heat engines, a.s.o.
The COP is a totally different concept (Energy Out / Energy In) and hopefully for all E-Cats is greater than one (infinite during SSM mode).
@ Iggy Dairymple In your scenario we would still be burdened by transmission losses, potential blackouts as well as the inefficiencies of the municipality and cost of the power company and their frivolous retirement plans and bonuses! One of the greatest features of the ecat is to permit the elimination of all of these disadvantages by installing in in our home! In every energy statement that I receive is a threat of penalty for not paying on time! I have never missed a payment but that doesn’t soften the sound of the threat!
Efficiency is important to understand and to measure. Just because a system has no input does not mean that nothing is consumed. The eCat SKL consumes its fuel – albeit over a long period of time. My car’s internal combustion engine (ICE) runs without external input so long as it has fuel in its fuel tank. So with the eCat SKL – it should be able to run until it runs out of fuel – or some other limiting factor occurs.
Efficiency is important when knowing how much waste heat is being produced, when electrical power is the desired product. A gas fired water heater is typically about 50% efficient – some heated air goes up the chimney and is not used to heat the water. An electric water heater is nearly 100% efficient – very little waste heat is lost. Efficiency is important in the design of larger systems so the waste heat can be either put to use or removed in a safe manner. I hope this clarifies your understanding of efficiency.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Once in the industrial market would the regulations allow E-Cat sales &/or rentals to municipal (city) owned electric companies so that these cities could install E-Cat SKLs at their customers’ meters? The power might be cheap enough that the company would not even need to meter the power usage. The Leonardo Corporation could choose to rent their reactors to the power companies thereby protecting its intellectual property. Many cities are heavily dependent on income from their power companies. Cities could also rent E-Cats to be mounted on street-light poles to power the lamps. Marketing via this route would soften the disruption to the retail energy market (but would nuke the wholesale electrical energy market).
Best regards,
Iggy
Caro Andrea,
non capisco i discorsi che vengono fatti sul rendimento del tuo SKL.
Se i teams dei verificatori attestano il funzionamento in SSM del SKL per un periodo sufficientemente lungo ogni discorso sul rendimento è superfluo; il COP è uguale ad infinito perchè il denominatore è nullo.
I Fisici Accademici dovranno spremere le loro meningi a lungo, ma partirà il successo del Leonardo SKL.
Non c’e altro da dire. Se non ho capito nulla ti prego di dirmelo: cercherò di capire.
Con stima ed affetto
Gian
Dear Andrea,
I don’t understand the talk that is being made about the efficency of your SKL .
If the teams of verifiers certify the functioning of the SKL in SSM for a sufficiently long period, any discussion on performance is superfluous; the COP is equal to infinity because the denominator is null.
The Academic Physicists will have to squeeze their brains for a long time, but the success of the Leonardo SKL will start.
There is nothing more to say.If I have not understood anything, please tell me: I will try to understand.
With esteem and affection
Gian
Dr Rossi,
I am a friend of Dr Parkhomov, I met him in Russia many times, talking also of your effect.
In this time of pandemia, I think this paper could be useful: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13410437_a_method_of_isothermal_gene_amplification
This technology could be efficient in the fight over new pathogenes, like corona virus.
By the way, Sars and Cov-19 bear the GAG sequence which was used in this paper.
Best Regards,
Fabrice David
I would suggest that the efficiency of an eCat SKL is defined as the useable electrical power produced divided by the total power produced in a complete system. For example, if the eCat SKL reactor produces 100W of total power (heat and electricity combined), consisting of 19 Watts produced as heat from the reactor, and 81 Watts of electrical power is generated by the reactor, but 1 Watt of electrical power is consumed by the Controller (and turned into heat), the system efficiency will be 80% or 0.8. The fact that an application may be able to use the heat generated is irrelevant to the efficiency. The application could as easily discard the generated heat or even view it as a nuisance (e.g., overheating the system).
Some microprocessor chips have multiple cores, each core an individual processor, a circuit board can have multiple chips. Does the E-Cat SKL controller board have a single or multichannel output?
Even with automated manufacture of the E-Cat SKL charge and electrical interconnections to the control unit, there will be manufacturing tolerances, small differences in gap distance between cathode and anode, lengths of electrical interconnectors, minute differences in cross sectional area, conductivity, effectiveness of electronic screening, and circuit timing. The conductive path length and conductive volume (like a wave guide) of each E-Cat setup will be as electronically distinct and individual as fingerprints, I would think that part of the task for the AI software would be to adapt to the electronic differences of each individual setup, but my thoughts may be wrong.
Previously you have described a controller board as being 5 cm x 7 cm x 1 cm and the weight as 80 grams.
Can more than one E-Cat SKL charge be controlled by a control unit – single controller circuit board with its on-board AI software?
Dear LilyLover,
Your suggestion April 10th I find extremely sensible. Absolutely correct: repeaters/delayed amplifiers, that is the way to go, as it has for eons i.e. quasi-identical starting positions. It is just a question of know how and why. And by the way as you are aware it is not in a text book yet or in a published paper. Regards Eric Ashworth
I can guess with any confidence only the efficiency of the SKL. As you have said, more than once I think, the efficiency must be exactly 100% because the denominator is 0.
Heat is not waste, heat is still energy and can always have value.
I am still so thankful for your commitment to your work, and that of your entire team. And I pray on this Easter Sunday that you maintain your good health and continued success in your endeavors.
Dear Andrea,
When the world gets to know the E-cat it will already be very developted and use advanced technology. Imagagine their reaction. For most people it will come from nowhere
I guess
Power: 250 W
Volume: 0.75 dm3
Weight: 475 g
Efficiency: 85 %
Dear Andrea,
First of all, I wish you and your team a happy Easter.
Just a question popped into my mind.
Does the E-cat SKL require a separate system to extract just the excess heat, like some additional water cooling system? Especially if you would combine multiple E-cats, you may some system to get rid of cumulated heat of all these E-Cats together.
Do you have any Easter surprise for us?
Thanks, kind regards, Gerard
In your recent comment you indicate the power range of the bets received in the interval “100 – 160,000 W”. You forgot the top estimate of “Peter” of 340,000 W. (April 9 at 5:42 AM)
As a non-engineer, non-physicist, I can only imagine the challenge you face on expanding the ratio of Controller:Cube. As a first thought, I imagine that with the “deep learning” HAL has grown and potentially tests the limits of the existing CPU of the controller. However, when I think of the Ahronov-Bohm effect, the distinction of how HAL might treat each Cube individually versus treating each cube as “equivalents” arises.
Have you and your excellent team reached a level of mastery where the 4-dimensional shape of equivalent points of resonance been mapped? I use the following video as an gross simplification of my meaning of “equivalent points of resonance”. Or, am I simply showing my level of ignorance?
Link>> https://youtu.be/wvJAgrUBF4w
Rick 57:
Very well, please continue to assist me with this quest. Keep you too record of the data, if you want, so that I will ask your help when I will have to choose which is the closest. We will have 4 winners: the best power, the best efficiency, the best dimensions ( based on the volume ) and the best weight.
Again Happy Easter to all our Readers !
A.R.
Rino:
Those particles travel close to the speed of light and at their speed you cannot use Galileian equations, you must use the Lorentz equations, to respect the Relativity theory: when the speed arrives to be close of the speed of light the space tends to contract along the axis of the direction of the partcle and time tends to become slower and slower…so the particles are “in time” to reach the sea level.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I hope it is possible to change my guess of the E-cat SKL properties. I changed it because of your last answer to me.
The revised properties are now:
Size: 10x10x10 cm
Total output power: 1000W
Electrical usable output power: 900W
Residual heat output power: 100W
Consequently the ‘efficiency’ is 90%
Power usage of the controller is peanuts.
Can you give us some idea how the testing is progressing?
Kind regards and all the best, Gerard
@ Gian
The efficiency parameter measures the ability of the E-Cat SKL to generate usable electrical power from the total power it produces.
This is interesting in order to compare the E-Cat SKL to other heat to electricity conversion systems like turbines, combustion generators, heat engines, a.s.o.
The COP is a totally different concept (Energy Out / Energy In) and hopefully for all E-Cats is greater than one (infinite during SSM mode).
Riccardo
Il mondo attende anche un altro Dott. Rossi per salvarsi:
https://www.repubblica.it/scienze/2020/04/13/news/coronavirus_-253854329/
Saluti
Hi Andrea,
Are you able to keep up with regular physical exercise during these days? Do you have a place to exercise in your home?
@ Iggy Dairymple In your scenario we would still be burdened by transmission losses, potential blackouts as well as the inefficiencies of the municipality and cost of the power company and their frivolous retirement plans and bonuses! One of the greatest features of the ecat is to permit the elimination of all of these disadvantages by installing in in our home! In every energy statement that I receive is a threat of penalty for not paying on time! I have never missed a payment but that doesn’t soften the sound of the threat!
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Gian:
This issue is open to the quest.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Iggy Dalrymple:
Thank you for your insight.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gian,
Efficiency is important to understand and to measure. Just because a system has no input does not mean that nothing is consumed. The eCat SKL consumes its fuel – albeit over a long period of time. My car’s internal combustion engine (ICE) runs without external input so long as it has fuel in its fuel tank. So with the eCat SKL – it should be able to run until it runs out of fuel – or some other limiting factor occurs.
Efficiency is important when knowing how much waste heat is being produced, when electrical power is the desired product. A gas fired water heater is typically about 50% efficient – some heated air goes up the chimney and is not used to heat the water. An electric water heater is nearly 100% efficient – very little waste heat is lost. Efficiency is important in the design of larger systems so the waste heat can be either put to use or removed in a safe manner. I hope this clarifies your understanding of efficiency.
Frank Acland:
The situation is very promising.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Once in the industrial market would the regulations allow E-Cat sales &/or rentals to municipal (city) owned electric companies so that these cities could install E-Cat SKLs at their customers’ meters? The power might be cheap enough that the company would not even need to meter the power usage. The Leonardo Corporation could choose to rent their reactors to the power companies thereby protecting its intellectual property. Many cities are heavily dependent on income from their power companies. Cities could also rent E-Cats to be mounted on street-light poles to power the lamps. Marketing via this route would soften the disruption to the retail energy market (but would nuke the wholesale electrical energy market).
Best regards,
Iggy
Caro Andrea,
non capisco i discorsi che vengono fatti sul rendimento del tuo SKL.
Se i teams dei verificatori attestano il funzionamento in SSM del SKL per un periodo sufficientemente lungo ogni discorso sul rendimento è superfluo; il COP è uguale ad infinito perchè il denominatore è nullo.
I Fisici Accademici dovranno spremere le loro meningi a lungo, ma partirà il successo del Leonardo SKL.
Non c’e altro da dire. Se non ho capito nulla ti prego di dirmelo: cercherò di capire.
Con stima ed affetto
Gian
Dear Andrea,
I don’t understand the talk that is being made about the efficency of your SKL .
If the teams of verifiers certify the functioning of the SKL in SSM for a sufficiently long period, any discussion on performance is superfluous; the COP is equal to infinity because the denominator is null.
The Academic Physicists will have to squeeze their brains for a long time, but the success of the Leonardo SKL will start.
There is nothing more to say.If I have not understood anything, please tell me: I will try to understand.
With esteem and affection
Gian
Dear Andrea,
How stable and reliable is the operation of your E-Cat SKLs in this period?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
@ Steven N. Karels
I totally agree with you.
The more meaningful way to define the efficiency of the E-Cat SKL is:
usable electrical power output
———————————-
total power generated by the E-Cat
Have a nice day,
Riccardo
Dear Readers:
Please go to
http://www.rossilivecat.com
to find comments published today in other posts of this blog,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
KeithT:
It could be either.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dteven N. Karels:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Fabrice David:
Thank you for the link.
I am passing it on to the experts of the matter.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
I am a friend of Dr Parkhomov, I met him in Russia many times, talking also of your effect.
In this time of pandemia, I think this paper could be useful:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13410437_a_method_of_isothermal_gene_amplification
This technology could be efficient in the fight over new pathogenes, like corona virus.
By the way, Sars and Cov-19 bear the GAG sequence which was used in this paper.
Best Regards,
Fabrice David
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I would suggest that the efficiency of an eCat SKL is defined as the useable electrical power produced divided by the total power produced in a complete system. For example, if the eCat SKL reactor produces 100W of total power (heat and electricity combined), consisting of 19 Watts produced as heat from the reactor, and 81 Watts of electrical power is generated by the reactor, but 1 Watt of electrical power is consumed by the Controller (and turned into heat), the system efficiency will be 80% or 0.8. The fact that an application may be able to use the heat generated is irrelevant to the efficiency. The application could as easily discard the generated heat or even view it as a nuisance (e.g., overheating the system).
@ Patrick
for the purpose of this game we calculate the efficiency as:
P(electric) / [P(electric) + P(heat)]
therefore assuming there is no power emitted from the E-Cat SKL in any other form.
Please specify if the value you provided in your guess is the electric power output or the total power, including heat.
Many Thanks,
Riccardo
Dear Andrea,
Some microprocessor chips have multiple cores, each core an individual processor, a circuit board can have multiple chips. Does the E-Cat SKL controller board have a single or multichannel output?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Patrick:
Thank you for your participation to the quest,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tyrone Featherly:
Thank you for your kind sustain to our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
KeithT:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Even with automated manufacture of the E-Cat SKL charge and electrical interconnections to the control unit, there will be manufacturing tolerances, small differences in gap distance between cathode and anode, lengths of electrical interconnectors, minute differences in cross sectional area, conductivity, effectiveness of electronic screening, and circuit timing. The conductive path length and conductive volume (like a wave guide) of each E-Cat setup will be as electronically distinct and individual as fingerprints, I would think that part of the task for the AI software would be to adapt to the electronic differences of each individual setup, but my thoughts may be wrong.
Previously you have described a controller board as being 5 cm x 7 cm x 1 cm and the weight as 80 grams.
Can more than one E-Cat SKL charge be controlled by a control unit – single controller circuit board with its on-board AI software?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Dear LilyLover,
Your suggestion April 10th I find extremely sensible. Absolutely correct: repeaters/delayed amplifiers, that is the way to go, as it has for eons i.e. quasi-identical starting positions. It is just a question of know how and why. And by the way as you are aware it is not in a text book yet or in a published paper. Regards Eric Ashworth
Dear Andrea,
I can guess with any confidence only the efficiency of the SKL. As you have said, more than once I think, the efficiency must be exactly 100% because the denominator is 0.
Heat is not waste, heat is still energy and can always have value.
I am still so thankful for your commitment to your work, and that of your entire team. And I pray on this Easter Sunday that you maintain your good health and continued success in your endeavors.
Tyrone Featherly
Dear Andrea,
How do you calculate the efficiency?
Here is my wild guess:
Power: 3.2kW
Efficiency: 78%
Volume: 15cm x 10cm x 4cm
Weight: 378g
Best regards,
Patrick
@ Claud
correct, the power range right now is: 100 – 340,000 W
even though I wouldn’t be so optimistic like Peter…
Best Regards,
Riccardo
Nils Fryklund:
Thank you for your data,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gerard McEk:
The Ecat SKL can be supplied by a heat exchanger to recover also the residual heat.
Happy Easter to you and Yours,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Lars:
Thank you for the data.
I hope the Ecat SKL will be useful to the world, independently from any other consideration.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
When the world gets to know the E-cat it will already be very developted and use advanced technology. Imagagine their reaction. For most people it will come from nowhere
I guess
Power: 250 W
Volume: 0.75 dm3
Weight: 475 g
Efficiency: 85 %
Dear Andrea,
First of all, I wish you and your team a happy Easter.
Just a question popped into my mind.
Does the E-cat SKL require a separate system to extract just the excess heat, like some additional water cooling system? Especially if you would combine multiple E-cats, you may some system to get rid of cumulated heat of all these E-Cats together.
Do you have any Easter surprise for us?
Thanks, kind regards, Gerard
@ Rick 57
In your recent comment you indicate the power range of the bets received in the interval “100 – 160,000 W”. You forgot the top estimate of “Peter” of 340,000 W. (April 9 at 5:42 AM)
Dear Andrea!
My guess is as follow:
Weight: 100 grams
Size: 90x90x90 mm
Electricity effect: 150 W
Heat effect: 50 W
Best regards
Nils Fryklund
Rick 57:
OK
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Robert Dorr:
Thanks, data taken.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Chuck Davis:
The external walls are at room temperature or lukewarm at the most.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mason:
Very interesting link ! Your comment is very intelligent.
Same wishes to you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
As a non-engineer, non-physicist, I can only imagine the challenge you face on expanding the ratio of Controller:Cube. As a first thought, I imagine that with the “deep learning” HAL has grown and potentially tests the limits of the existing CPU of the controller. However, when I think of the Ahronov-Bohm effect, the distinction of how HAL might treat each Cube individually versus treating each cube as “equivalents” arises.
Have you and your excellent team reached a level of mastery where the 4-dimensional shape of equivalent points of resonance been mapped? I use the following video as an gross simplification of my meaning of “equivalent points of resonance”. Or, am I simply showing my level of ignorance?
Link>> https://youtu.be/wvJAgrUBF4w
As always, I wish you all good health.
Sincerely & Respectfully,
Mason Ainsworth
Dear Andrea, Does the exterior surface of the ecat get so hot that it requires insulation from heat sensitive and inflammable materials.
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Dr. Rossi,
Ok, I’ll play the game.
Size: 150mm per side in a cubic form
Weight: 450 grams
Total Power: 500 Watts
Conversion Efficiency: 81.5%
Electrical Power Output: 407.5 Watts
Stay safe and keep up the great work!!
Sincerely,
Robert Dorr
Dear Andrea,
I will do with pleasure !
Nice to see there will be 4 winners and not just one !
Warm Regards and Good Luck to Everybody !
Rick 57
Rick 57:
Very well, please continue to assist me with this quest. Keep you too record of the data, if you want, so that I will ask your help when I will have to choose which is the closest. We will have 4 winners: the best power, the best efficiency, the best dimensions ( based on the volume ) and the best weight.
Again Happy Easter to all our Readers !
A.R.
Dear All,
a few statistics about our quest for the ideal E-Cat SKL:
Partecipants to date: #27
Power Range: 100 – 16000 W
Efficiency Range: 50 – 92 %
Cube Side: 10 – 125 mm
Weight: 95 – 2360 g
Enjoy e Happy Easter @Home !
Riccardo
Rino:
Those particles travel close to the speed of light and at their speed you cannot use Galileian equations, you must use the Lorentz equations, to respect the Relativity theory: when the speed arrives to be close of the speed of light the space tends to contract along the axis of the direction of the partcle and time tends to become slower and slower…so the particles are “in time” to reach the sea level.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Have a Good Easter you and all our readers !
Andrea Rossi
Claud:
We’ll see,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
LilyLover:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Happy Easter to you,
A.R.