I work with a nonprofit that is launching an X-Prize for our moonshot goal of a carbon neutral city by 2030. In our first challenge we will work with 8 cities, giving $1M to three cities with the best plans and $50k to the 5 runner up cities, and support for many more. We have furthermore secured $250M in loans for home improvements. This will include ground support and technology for city-wide civic engagement of neighborhoods and business.
Our goal is to acceleration of the speed and magnitude of carbon reduction through integration of top-down and bottom-up climate solutions. Demand side activation enabling supply-side climate solutions of policy, technology and market creation to achieve significantly more take up. Essentially setting the groundwork for large scale adoption of the best climate technologies available.
Is this something that you would be interested in? I know many cities and neighborhoods would be very excited to learn about and get access to the groundbreaking new technologies you are working on. Our first campaign will start this winter so could be good timing with your first product.
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manuel cilia
March 23, 2021 at 12:29 AM
Dear Dr Rossi
I have people asking me what do we call the effect that you have in the SKL. In the past we called it Cold Fusion then we started calling it LENR. If you had to come up with a term to describe the effect what would you call it?
Thank you
Andrea Rossi
March 23, 2021 at 6:12 AM
Mark U:
In the event a luxometer will break, I am pretty sure that there will be at least 3 spare luxometers and at least 3 persons ready to replace it in few seconds.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
If the event that the luxometer breaks down at the demonstration (these things happen!), the following scenario would serve as a simple and effective alternative.
Given that:
the SKLed emits at 5000K, and
(only for illustration sake) the SKLed consumes 4 Watts of electricity, and
(only for illustration sake) the SKLed produces an energy gain of 5 times, then
the SKLed should have a luminosity very comparable to a store bought 5000K 20W LED like this
on amazon.ca :
A21 LED Bulb, 20W (150-200W Equivalent) 2200LM Non-dimmable and 5000K Daylight,
E26 Medium Screw Base Light Bulb for Bathroom & Kichen …
After turning on the SKLed (with a watt meter showing a power consumption of (say) 4 watts),
one could plug in the A21 LED 20W bulb beside the SKLed and see at a glance that they give off a comparable light field.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
you wrote the e-cat skled will be measured with a luxometer.
Please consider also to illuminate a photovoltaic module (a balcony power plant pv-module plug+play) with your e-cat skled.
It would be interesting how much watt it can feed in.
If it is more than the e-cat skled consumes I know what i will do..
Best regards
Erich
John C Evans:
Of course ! How to calculate the COP making LM vs. W ? I take advantage also with you of the comment sent from Dan Galburt on 2021 03 18 at 10:30 on this very blog. By the way: the measurements during the presentation will be made by our Customer, who will have been using the SKLed since many days. I will not make any measurement during the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
In a response to Steven N. Karels you say “What will be measured will be only the electricity consumed and the lumens.” will you also present a clear calculation of COP at the event? A working product is very nice but for many of us who have followed you these many years a clear undeniable COP greater than 1, hopefully much greater, would be more significant. Validation of your work and our faith is highly anticipated.
Lucy:
With the same system used by the independent third party that is making the certification. The system will be described during the presentation. But you can have a hint of it reading the comment of Dan Galburt published in this blog on 2021 03 18 at 10:30.
The luxometry will be made at the same time while a Wattmeter will measure the electricity consumed by the SKLed; this measurement will be permanent for all the time of the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Two questions come into my mind…
1. Have you considered the possibility of marketing the ECat SKLed via Walmart, Amazon, Alibaba, i.e. large-scale distributors, after the initial launch period?
2. Is a 2700-3000K SKLed at all possible? It might be better suited for the illumination of historic public buildings, or vast indoor spaces, than a super-white 5000K light…
Just an idea 🙂
Hugh Maguire
As I am A novice, I apologize in advance for this question, does the SKL feeds power to the LED, or is it a special LED with the SKL integrated within.
Dear Dr Rossi
I have people asking me what do we call the effect that you have in the SKL. In the past we called it Cold Fusion then we started calling it LENR. If you had to come up with a term to describe the effect what would you call it?
Thank you
Steven N. Karels:
Thank you for your suggestions, but we will do none of them. What will be measured will be only the electricity consumed and the lumens.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, This link reveals an affordable EV produced by a reputable chinese manufacturer that would be a great candidate for ecat. At the listed price there will probably be one in every household on the planet!
Can you give us some insight into the status of the certification of the Ecat SKL, as it relates to the certification of the Ecat SKLed?
Namely, did the Ecat SKL certification morph into the Ecat SKLed certification, or are they each going on concurrently?
If the latter, are the certifications being performed by the same agency?
Thank you if you can answer!
Cheers,
Mark in Toronto
Regarding the forthcoming demonstration you posted “The Ecat SKLed has only one input of electricity and the consume will be measured by the Wattmeter of the Customer. The output is not electricity, it is light.”
What I would request to see at the demonstration would include the following:
1. An optical spectrometer, certified, showing the output optical spectrum.
2. An oscilloscope and a photodetector to show the constant and changing output characteristics of the light. The human eye cannot detect quickly changing light levels. This could also be done with a spectrum analyzer on the photodiode output. Alternatively, a Fourier Transform of the photodiode output signal.
3. Input electrical power measurements (i.e., voltage and current) both DC and AC.
4. Average, integrated optical power output measured.
5. The above measurements made: before power to the demonstration unit is applied; during the demonstration at nominal power output levels; any “dimming” capabilities (if applicable); and after the demonstration with power no longer applied — without changing any of the measuring equipment or humans touching any switches or controls, as much as possible.
6. The photodiode spectral response curves should be made available.
I hope the ECAT output will be able to charge also these new type of batteries
( major advantages is they retain +99% capacity after +1000 recharging cycles)
Low cost: energy storage system CapEx at 25 – 50% below 4-hour, Li-ion systems
Long life: 20+ years lifespan with minimal fade
Safe: no gas generated, no thermal runaway
Aleksei Savchenko:
First of all, I apologize for being late to respond to your comment: actually, I responded immediately, but probably I forgot to click on SEND and passed to the next comment. Sorry.
All the 4 points are very interesting suggestions for lines of research and I take advice of all of them, although I am very sceptical about possibilities of transmutations: I worked very much on that issue related to radioactive wastes about 8 years ago, but I didn’t succeed.
Obviously I will invite you, as I promised !
Warmest Regards,
A.R.
Does the power output of the reactor core have any characteristics of what’s called, “cold electricity?”
A range of plasma based devices in the past (including those of Nikola Tesla, E.V. Gray, and Thomas Henry Moray among others) seemed to be capable of powering loads but also was so unique that it would not heat up bulbs and other devices like ordinary hot electricity. Huge quantities of this cold electricity could also be delivered through tiny, thin wires.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I don’t expect you to answer this but I cant refrain from asking. Why have you fallen in love with a Swedish company? There must be unlimited companies who wish to take on board this remarkable product.
Respectfully,
Calle H
Dr Rossi,
The fact that the presentation of November 30st will be made inside the factory of your client will imply a very restricted presence in person, correct ?
One additional application of eCat technology for electric propulsion. Keeping batteries warm (or cool) in extreme environments. Batteries have an optimal temperature range. When batteries get too cold, they lose performance (energy). So for automotive, aeronautical and marine applications, another function an eCat unit would have is to keep the batteries onboard in their “happy” temperature range.
In a similar manner, I preheat my Tesla in the cold New England mornings before I drive to work. This significantly increases my effective range over what I would have without the preheating. Here, I use my house current to preheat the battery within the Tesla. In a future version, an eCat unit could do the same function.
Franco Pirri:
The possibility of agreements with OEM ( Original Equipment Manufacturer ) will be surely exploited and we have already in course such kind of deals.
About the reverse engineering, it will be very, very difficult, albeit nothing is impossible. There are components that, simply, do not exist in the market. Since we will start only when we will have a massive amount of orders, our price will be very low, so it will be less expensive and much more fast to buy from us, then to make reverse engineering. In this sense, the OEM strategy maked sense. Anyway, we’ll see.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dan Woodward:
The Ecat SKLed has only one input of electricity and the consume will be measured by the Wattmeter of the Customer. The output is not electricity, it is light.
About the equivalence of Lumens into Watts, please read the precise comment of Dan Galburt on this blog dated 2021 03 18 at 10:30. During the presentation also this measurement will be made by the Customer. Actually, the Ecat SKLed will have been already in operation at least a week before the presentation, as well as the related measurements. By the way, at that time we will have a certification of an independent third party with safety and performance certified. This certification is presently on course.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Iggy Dalrymple:
We will allow to copy the forms to speed up the orders.
I confirm that we will respect the priority based on the date of the original pre-order.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Does the purchase application to purchase an SKLed have to be an original application form from Leonardo or can our friends make a copy from one that you sent to your followers?
I suggest that you honor all applications but give priority to your pre-applicants.
Best Regards,
Iggy
Dear Andrea,
As soon as the shipments begin, all possible competitors will be able to attempt a reverse engineering of the eCat. Only the greatest can hope to build their own ‘eCat core’ in competition with you.
By its nature, an OEM will have an interest in using an eCat model to build a market around its own solution and will try to market it to the maximum to earn as much as possible. Only a very large OEM will be able to attempt to copy your core, and it is very unlikely that it has the size to do so.
At this point I think you should try to maximize the number of “eCat friends” by proposing to become OEMs to the people you think may deserve your trust.
A reservation list, such as the current one, might be useful.
Do you think you will declare your willingness to accept OEM requests during this year?
I hope that you will provide electrical terminals on the output that drives the LED’s for your 2021 presentation. That would allow a digital oscilloscope to measure output and input(s) simultaneously and to use its math to calculate gain (COP). Since we expect the COP to be quite high, accuracy of an o’scope would be of little worry.
@Mark U..
Excuse me, Sir, I am a novice to this topic but a specialist in the area of lithography and lasertechnology….
… so I would like to ask You.
WHY THE HECK should a luxometer break down in this setup ?
Dear Andrea,
I work with a nonprofit that is launching an X-Prize for our moonshot goal of a carbon neutral city by 2030. In our first challenge we will work with 8 cities, giving $1M to three cities with the best plans and $50k to the 5 runner up cities, and support for many more. We have furthermore secured $250M in loans for home improvements. This will include ground support and technology for city-wide civic engagement of neighborhoods and business.
Our goal is to acceleration of the speed and magnitude of carbon reduction through integration of top-down and bottom-up climate solutions. Demand side activation enabling supply-side climate solutions of policy, technology and market creation to achieve significantly more take up. Essentially setting the groundwork for large scale adoption of the best climate technologies available.
Is this something that you would be interested in? I know many cities and neighborhoods would be very excited to learn about and get access to the groundbreaking new technologies you are working on. Our first campaign will start this winter so could be good timing with your first product.
Carlen
Dear Rossi-world:
We’ve now installed the restyled Rossi Blog Reader website at http://rossilivecat.com — please let us know if you have any questions or difficulty.
We plan to leave the original one up indefinitely at http://old.rossiliveat.com.
Thank you,
Eric Woudenberg
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manuel cilia
March 23, 2021 at 12:29 AM
Dear Dr Rossi
I have people asking me what do we call the effect that you have in the SKL. In the past we called it Cold Fusion then we started calling it LENR. If you had to come up with a term to describe the effect what would you call it?
Thank you
Andrea Rossi
March 23, 2021 at 6:12 AM
Manuel Cilia:
Ecat effect, and its theoretical background is described in
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Warm Regards,
A.R.
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Andrea, of course, is far too modest. Everyone else, for the next 1000 years, will be calling it the ‘Rossi Effect’.
Rodney.
Mark U:
In the event a luxometer will break, I am pretty sure that there will be at least 3 spare luxometers and at least 3 persons ready to replace it in few seconds.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Iggy Dalrymple:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Will you offer a weather-proof SKLed lamp for exterior use?
Best Regards,
Iggy
Dear Andrea,
If the event that the luxometer breaks down at the demonstration (these things happen!), the following scenario would serve as a simple and effective alternative.
Given that:
the SKLed emits at 5000K, and
(only for illustration sake) the SKLed consumes 4 Watts of electricity, and
(only for illustration sake) the SKLed produces an energy gain of 5 times, then
the SKLed should have a luminosity very comparable to a store bought 5000K 20W LED like this
on amazon.ca :
A21 LED Bulb, 20W (150-200W Equivalent) 2200LM Non-dimmable and 5000K Daylight,
E26 Medium Screw Base Light Bulb for Bathroom & Kichen …
After turning on the SKLed (with a watt meter showing a power consumption of (say) 4 watts),
one could plug in the A21 LED 20W bulb beside the SKLed and see at a glance that they give off a comparable light field.
What do you think?
best wishes,
Mark in Toronto
Erich:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
you wrote the e-cat skled will be measured with a luxometer.
Please consider also to illuminate a photovoltaic module (a balcony power plant pv-module plug+play) with your e-cat skled.
It would be interesting how much watt it can feed in.
If it is more than the e-cat skled consumes I know what i will do..
Best regards
Erich
John C Evans:
Of course ! How to calculate the COP making LM vs. W ? I take advantage also with you of the comment sent from Dan Galburt on 2021 03 18 at 10:30 on this very blog. By the way: the measurements during the presentation will be made by our Customer, who will have been using the SKLed since many days. I will not make any measurement during the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea Rossi
In a response to Steven N. Karels you say “What will be measured will be only the electricity consumed and the lumens.” will you also present a clear calculation of COP at the event? A working product is very nice but for many of us who have followed you these many years a clear undeniable COP greater than 1, hopefully much greater, would be more significant. Validation of your work and our faith is highly anticipated.
Thank You
JOhn C Evans
Rod Walton:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
On Power Engineering issue of March 23 2021:
A Thermodynamics Overview of Cogen and Combined Cycle Power vs. Conventional Steam Generation
Rod Walton
Lucy:
With the same system used by the independent third party that is making the certification. The system will be described during the presentation. But you can have a hint of it reading the comment of Dan Galburt published in this blog on 2021 03 18 at 10:30.
The luxometry will be made at the same time while a Wattmeter will measure the electricity consumed by the SKLed; this measurement will be permanent for all the time of the presentation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Manuel Cilia:
Ecat effect, and its theoretical background is described in
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Toussaint:
I prefer not to answer this question,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hugh Maguire:
1. it is also a possibility in a second wave
2. it would be possible, but normally 5000 K is requested
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Two questions come into my mind…
1. Have you considered the possibility of marketing the ECat SKLed via Walmart, Amazon, Alibaba, i.e. large-scale distributors, after the initial launch period?
2. Is a 2700-3000K SKLed at all possible? It might be better suited for the illumination of historic public buildings, or vast indoor spaces, than a super-white 5000K light…
Just an idea 🙂
Hugh Maguire
Dear Andrea Rossi
As I am A novice, I apologize in advance for this question, does the SKL feeds power to the LED, or is it a special LED with the SKL integrated within.
Kind Regards,
Toussaint François
Dear Dr Rossi
I have people asking me what do we call the effect that you have in the SKL. In the past we called it Cold Fusion then we started calling it LENR. If you had to come up with a term to describe the effect what would you call it?
Thank you
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
How will be measured the light at the presentation ?
Cheers,
Lucy
Steven N. Karels:
Thank you for your suggestions, but we will do none of them. What will be measured will be only the electricity consumed and the lumens.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
arjen:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mark U:
We will publish the certification at the presentation .
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam,
Interesting,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Chuck Davis:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, This link reveals an affordable EV produced by a reputable chinese manufacturer that would be a great candidate for ecat. At the listed price there will probably be one in every household on the planet!
https://www.news18.com/news/auto/tesla-outsold-by-a-4500-china-made-hong-guang-mini-electric-double-the-sales-against-model-3-3476114.html
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Hello Dr Rossi
I do not know if this is related
to your research but thought
I would post anyway.
https://phys.org/news/2021-03-faster-fusion-reactor-machine.html
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea,
Can you give us some insight into the status of the certification of the Ecat SKL, as it relates to the certification of the Ecat SKLed?
Namely, did the Ecat SKL certification morph into the Ecat SKLed certification, or are they each going on concurrently?
If the latter, are the certifications being performed by the same agency?
Thank you if you can answer!
Cheers,
Mark in Toronto
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Regarding the forthcoming demonstration you posted “The Ecat SKLed has only one input of electricity and the consume will be measured by the Wattmeter of the Customer. The output is not electricity, it is light.”
What I would request to see at the demonstration would include the following:
1. An optical spectrometer, certified, showing the output optical spectrum.
2. An oscilloscope and a photodetector to show the constant and changing output characteristics of the light. The human eye cannot detect quickly changing light levels. This could also be done with a spectrum analyzer on the photodiode output. Alternatively, a Fourier Transform of the photodiode output signal.
3. Input electrical power measurements (i.e., voltage and current) both DC and AC.
4. Average, integrated optical power output measured.
5. The above measurements made: before power to the demonstration unit is applied; during the demonstration at nominal power output levels; any “dimming” capabilities (if applicable); and after the demonstration with power no longer applied — without changing any of the measuring equipment or humans touching any switches or controls, as much as possible.
6. The photodiode spectral response curves should be made available.
Dear Rossi
Please find attached link
https://ambri.com/business/
Liquid metal batteries
I hope the ECAT output will be able to charge also these new type of batteries
( major advantages is they retain +99% capacity after +1000 recharging cycles)
Low cost: energy storage system CapEx at 25 – 50% below 4-hour, Li-ion systems
Long life: 20+ years lifespan with minimal fade
Safe: no gas generated, no thermal runaway
Please consider those batteries also in your r&d
Kind regards Arjen
Aleksei Savchenko:
First of all, I apologize for being late to respond to your comment: actually, I responded immediately, but probably I forgot to click on SEND and passed to the next comment. Sorry.
All the 4 points are very interesting suggestions for lines of research and I take advice of all of them, although I am very sceptical about possibilities of transmutations: I worked very much on that issue related to radioactive wastes about 8 years ago, but I didn’t succeed.
Obviously I will invite you, as I promised !
Warmest Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Does the power output of the reactor core have any characteristics of what’s called, “cold electricity?”
A range of plasma based devices in the past (including those of Nikola Tesla, E.V. Gray, and Thomas Henry Moray among others) seemed to be capable of powering loads but also was so unique that it would not heat up bulbs and other devices like ordinary hot electricity. Huge quantities of this cold electricity could also be delivered through tiny, thin wires.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I don’t expect you to answer this but I cant refrain from asking. Why have you fallen in love with a Swedish company? There must be unlimited companies who wish to take on board this remarkable product.
Respectfully,
Calle H
Dr Rossi,
The fact that the presentation of November 30st will be made inside the factory of your client will imply a very restricted presence in person, correct ?
Dear Andrea Rossi,
One additional application of eCat technology for electric propulsion. Keeping batteries warm (or cool) in extreme environments. Batteries have an optimal temperature range. When batteries get too cold, they lose performance (energy). So for automotive, aeronautical and marine applications, another function an eCat unit would have is to keep the batteries onboard in their “happy” temperature range.
In a similar manner, I preheat my Tesla in the cold New England mornings before I drive to work. This significantly increases my effective range over what I would have without the preheating. Here, I use my house current to preheat the battery within the Tesla. In a future version, an eCat unit could do the same function.
Franco Pirri:
The possibility of agreements with OEM ( Original Equipment Manufacturer ) will be surely exploited and we have already in course such kind of deals.
About the reverse engineering, it will be very, very difficult, albeit nothing is impossible. There are components that, simply, do not exist in the market. Since we will start only when we will have a massive amount of orders, our price will be very low, so it will be less expensive and much more fast to buy from us, then to make reverse engineering. In this sense, the OEM strategy maked sense. Anyway, we’ll see.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dan Woodward:
The Ecat SKLed has only one input of electricity and the consume will be measured by the Wattmeter of the Customer. The output is not electricity, it is light.
About the equivalence of Lumens into Watts, please read the precise comment of Dan Galburt on this blog dated 2021 03 18 at 10:30. During the presentation also this measurement will be made by the Customer. Actually, the Ecat SKLed will have been already in operation at least a week before the presentation, as well as the related measurements. By the way, at that time we will have a certification of an independent third party with safety and performance certified. This certification is presently on course.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Iggy Dalrymple:
We will allow to copy the forms to speed up the orders.
I confirm that we will respect the priority based on the date of the original pre-order.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Does the purchase application to purchase an SKLed have to be an original application form from Leonardo or can our friends make a copy from one that you sent to your followers?
I suggest that you honor all applications but give priority to your pre-applicants.
Best Regards,
Iggy
Dear Andrea,
As soon as the shipments begin, all possible competitors will be able to attempt a reverse engineering of the eCat. Only the greatest can hope to build their own ‘eCat core’ in competition with you.
By its nature, an OEM will have an interest in using an eCat model to build a market around its own solution and will try to market it to the maximum to earn as much as possible. Only a very large OEM will be able to attempt to copy your core, and it is very unlikely that it has the size to do so.
At this point I think you should try to maximize the number of “eCat friends” by proposing to become OEMs to the people you think may deserve your trust.
A reservation list, such as the current one, might be useful.
Do you think you will declare your willingness to accept OEM requests during this year?
Best wishes,
Franco
I hope that you will provide electrical terminals on the output that drives the LED’s for your 2021 presentation. That would allow a digital oscilloscope to measure output and input(s) simultaneously and to use its math to calculate gain (COP). Since we expect the COP to be quite high, accuracy of an o’scope would be of little worry.
Chuck Davis,
Prehaps,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
No, they are waiting for the certification of safety and performance made by the independent third party.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Regarding the customer who will host the E-Cat SKL presentation: Have they already done testing on the E-Cat SKL?
Thank you if you can answer,
Frank Acland
Dear Andrea, It is exciting that you have been able to miniaturize the ecat! Perhaps it can be incorporated into portable hand tools in the future.
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Stephen:
Thank you for your suggestions for future possible configurations,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N. Karels:
a. yes
b. no
c. no
d. not yet
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stephen:
We considered also these things,
Warm regards,
A.R.