United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Roberto Trimarchi

    Thanks for your reply Mr. Rossi. I wish you all the best! The idea is genial! Keep going!! We all trust in you.

    Another suggestion: why not collecting the money beforehand with a fundraising platform, like e.g.GOFUNDME or others as many other companies do with a new idea?
    You could easily ask 10$ for pre-ordering 1 ECat (or even 50$ in my opinion), and be able to start production almost immediately.
    best regards,
    Roberto Trimarchi.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    a. yes
    b. not yet, but to connect 3 x 100 W in series is very easy
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Esther:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Calle H:
    What you propose is a loss of time, for obvious reasons, while our testing system for the Clients is not annoying and is well organized, and it is necessary not to risk a bankrupcy basing the investments on manufacturing upon groundless pre-orders; besides, the system you dubbed “annoying” grants also the Clients. Our focus now is on the Clients that pre-ordered 800000 units.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Calle H

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    Referring to the annoying issue that clients will be waiting in line at Leonardo for testing prior to purchase, I think many of us are satisfied if Leonardo could do some simple verification, e.g. connect a 12V 100 Watt incandescent light bulb of known brand to one SKLep output and broadcast it by a web camera. If it keeps on shining for weeks I will not travel to Leonardo. Also a 12V electric fan (available as auto and marine accessory) is a nice alternative.
    Kind regards,
    Calle H

  • Esther

    Dear Mr Rossi,

    I have a suggestion for your order problem. You want 200.000 more orders than you already have.

    Ask al your preorder buyers if they want to order already for a second delivery after the first delivery. If the first delivery works as you told, they have to buy the second order. (And perhaps already pay (after testing the first) on a in between bank account, so you can show investors that the money is already there)

    Kind regards,

    Esther

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Ideally, if you could produce an SKLep with a 36VDC output and 300W of continuous electrical power, it would be ideal for my intended application. I would guess that the 1kW unit being developed will cost many times the cost of the currently offered 100W unit.

    a. Will the 100W units continue to be produced, even if the 1kW unit becomes available?
    b. Do you foresee a 300W unit being available (other than a 1kW units running at 30% of output)?

  • Richard Wells

    @ Steven Nicholes Karels, Re your question below.

    “Steven Nicholes Karels
    March 20, 2022 at 8:32 PM
    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you an estimate of how much power can be extracted by a single unit? I would assume it would be a function of things like reactor area and the physical separation of components. Comments?”

    If I remember correctly, Professor Garret Moddel discusses this in his video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tGRhTXKh8A&list=RDLV2tGRhTXKh8A

    My understanding is that he explains that we can only extract the ‘variations’ in ZPE. He goes on to calculate a figure for that. Apparently he has a working technology based on his theory and published scientific papers awaiting review/confirmation.

    (Casimir-cavity-induced conductance changes, G. Moddel, A. Weerakkody, D. Doroski, D. Bartusiak, Physcial Review Research, 3, L022007 (2021) and Optical-Cavity-Induced Current, G. Moddel, A. Weerakkody, D. Doroski, D. Bartusiak, Symmetry, 13(3), 517 (2021)

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    1. I do not understand exactly the question: can you rephrase ?
    2. as in 1
    3. The energy produced depends on the power of the Ecat SKLeps system. Which are the parameners that make the Ecat operate is a confidential issue.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    DrLG:
    1- I think so
    2- yes, and after the experience we made now, from now whenwe will receive orders for more than 1000 units we will make immediately the vetting, to avoid loss of time
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Roberto Trimarchi:
    Thank you for the suggestion, we are working very hard on it
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    BH:
    Thank you for the suggestion.
    We will find with our Clients the best possible solution case by case, depending on the specific situation,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • BH

    Hi Andrea,

    As a proposal regarding the risk related to big buyers.
    For large orders, a bank guarantee, could be a good solution, both parties would benefit in terms of security.

    Looking forward to test my 30 units in a near future!

  • Roberto Trimarchi

    I followed the suggestion about the 1KW SKlep and I strongly suggest Leonardo Corporation to offer these ones, which is by far more interesting than the 100W and would easily reach the one-million preorder.
    Even the 3KW or 5KW packages which were mentioned in this blog make a lot of sense.
    cheers,
    Roberto.

  • DrLG

    Dear Dr. Rossi
    Thank you for the detailed discussion of order status.

    I infer from your comments that the cancelations rate must drop off towards zero as all the previous large orders are vetted, and going forward large new orders will be count towards the 1000000 goal only after vetting.

    1) is my inference correct?

    2) are you close to completing the vetting process for previous orders so you can start moving up from 800K pre-orders when new vetted orders come in?

    Best Regards
    LarryG

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    You responded:
    “The energy ( not power ) extracted should be considered equal to the energy produced by the Ecat minus the energy supplied from the grid”

    Okay, working in terms of energy produced by the Ecat…

    1. Does the energy produced, increase, decrease, or remain the same as the active area of the effective components or plasma increase?
    2. Does the energy produced, increase, decrease or remain the same as the physical distance between effective components or plasma decreases – Casmir effect distances?
    3. Or the energy produced is a function of other parameters?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous,
    Thank you for your question, because I was going to explain what follows.
    We are still around 800000, but the situation is very dynamic, not static, for the following reasons: most of the units have been ordered by the so called “big buyers”, which means buyers that made pre-orders for more than 1000 units. As you can understand, we cannot risk to manufacture hundreds of thousands of units on the base of a not engaging pre-order, without having the guarantee that the buyer will be able to pay: this would lead us toward a bankrupcy. For this reason, this is the situation: buyers for small quantities are not a problem, because most of them are surely able to pay and the few of them which refuse to pay when we call them to organize the delivery will be easily substituted by the incoming orders. Therefore in this period we are vetting the references of all the big buyers; it is turning out that several big buyers are respectable guys, but absolutely lacking the financial ground proportionated to the amount they should have to pay at the delivery.
    To avoid to risk a bankrupcy, the steps will be the following:
    SMALL BUYERS
    1- we manufacture the units based on the pre-orders of the small buyers
    2- when the ordered units are ready, we call the Clients and inform them that the delivery is ready
    3- the Client is free to come to us and test his units, then decide if he wants the Ecats he pre-ordered, or not, and, if yes, he has to pay before the delivery by Paypal
    BIG BUYERS
    1- before starting to manufacture their units, we vet their financial status based on the information they give us and that we find about them and eventually decide if to proceed or not with the manufacturing, provided the Client puts the sum he has to pay in an escrow account agreed between the parties
    2- when the units the Client has pre-ordered will be ready, we will inform him and he will be able to come to test his units: if the test will be successful ( based upon a test protocol agreed by the parties ) the money in the escrow account will be sent from the escrow agent to Leonardo Corporation and the Client will be able to get his units; if the test will be unsuccessful, the escrow agent will give back to the Client his money and the Ecats will remain where they are.
    This said, in this period we are cancelling all the pre-orders of the Clients that resulted to be not able to guarantee their capacity to pay the amount of units they ordered. Presently there is an equilibrium between cancellations and new orders, so we still are around 800000.
    I invite our Clients to avoid to make jumbo orders they are not able to pay for, because it results in a loss of time for both parties, with no avail.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Anonymous

    Dr Rossi:
    Can you give us an update about the number of the pre-ordered units ?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard:
    Yes, it is interesting in the fact that remarks the necessity to explore more deeply the nature of the electron,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard:
    Thank you for the link . I will answer after reading it.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Greg Leonard

    Dear AR,
    There is a new paper from the University of Portsmouth, where I spent nearly 30 years as a lecturer

    https://phys.org/news/2022-03-state-universe.html?fbclid=IwAR1W-euxlsMqqiDMWIw7UJMTfYfDrjAZdyyaFK2Y6WP8K3pgs3YQIgGIjwY

    To a non-physicist, it looks to have some links with your ideas of entropy.

    What do you think?
    Regards,
    Greg Leonard

  • Andrea Rossi

    Calle H:
    We are working for that,
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  • Calle H

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    As you know the western world is in a desperate need for new energy. Is there no way that you can speed up the release of the E-cat products?
    Kind regards,
    Calle H

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    The energy ( not power ) extracted should be considered equal to the energy produced by the Ecat minus the energy supplied from the grid, albeit, as I repeated many times, the paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    is a theoretical hypothesis made after the experiments with the Ecat, and this hypothesis has still to be confirmed, even if I believe it is right, but I could be wrong, obviously.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    There has been theoretical debate over the energy density of Zero Point Energy (ZPE), from very high densities to quite low densities.

    It would seem to me that it would be reasonable that the amount of energy a unit can extract depends on the available energy density, the surface area of the active elements, and the closeness of the active elements. I would assume the larger the collection area, the more power could be collected. Likewise, the closer the active components, the more power that could be extracted.

    But, alas, my understanding of such things is limited. If you could provide your thoughts on the matter, it would be of great interest.

    (see postings below)

    Andrea Rossi
    March 21, 2022 at 5:26 AM
    Steven N. Karels:
    Sorry, I do not understand what you mean: can you rephrase ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    Steven Nicholes Karels
    March 20, 2022 at 8:32 PM
    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you an estimate of how much power can be extracted by a single unit? I would assume it would be a function of things like reactor area and the physical separation of components. Comments?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    Thank you for the update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Prof

    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Here are the last stats of your papers I read now on
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    Total readings: 104 000 ! ( of which 95850 only for “Ecat SK and long range particle interactions” )
    Recommendations: 7081
    Citations: 30
    Total Research Interest index: 1810
    And counting…
    Cheers
    Prof

  • Andrea Rossi

    Mario:
    1- it is valid the January listing date
    2- when we will inform you of the delivery, we’ll ask you the data for invoicing.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    P:
    Please don’t count on the reserve
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • P

    Dear Mr Rossi,
    Steven Nicholes Karels wrote about the Bologna experiment (post 2022-01-09 13:38) that a SKLep can give more output power than 100W. You replied “..we prefer keep a reserve..”
    1. Will the series-produced SKLep have a fixed limited output power of 100W?
    2. If it is possible to extract more power than 100W, will the specified lifetime of > 100 000h still be valid?
    Warm Regards
    /P

  • Mario

    Dear Andrea.

    1. If I ordered EcatLed – it was automatically canceled, and then I ordered Ecat 100 Watts in January, as which in the order on the list will be realized? Will it be on the January list? Is it from a prior order?
    2. Can I provide the invoice details for the company after before the delivery? I am asking because I did not provide data in the purchase form.

    I express great appreciation for your hard work.
    Greetings
    Mario

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    It is the one not yet ready to go, therefore, yes, it is where our main focus is now.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    Is the 1 kW Ecat a major focus for you at this time?

    Kind regards,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven N. Karels:
    Sorry, I do not understand what you mean: can you rephrase ?
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Helmut

    @Gavino Mamia:
    When a war is made, there is never a confrontation between a totally good guy and a totally bad guy. This is why diplomacy can succeed.
    Helmut

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Have you an estimate of how much power can be extracted by a single unit? I would assume it would be a function of things like reactor area and the physical separation of components. Comments?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gavino Mamia:
    I hope that diplomacy will win and that all the Countries of the world will return to make business together and work together to save the planet and make better the life of all peoples.
    As for our part, we want our technology to be useful everywhere.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Enzo Amato:
    1- we are working as hard as you cannot imagine to succeed
    2- anyway, I do believe that all the energy sources must be integrated to resolve the existing problems,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    George N:
    I repeat what I already said here: if ( IF ) the 1 kW module will be born before we will reach orders for 1 million units, every 1 kW SKLep ordered will count for 10 units of 100 W, so the 1 kW modules will help the total count.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    M. Elshoff:
    Thank you for the citation and the link, I am honoured,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • M. Elshoff

    dear dr. Rossi here is your page. – ECat SK and long-range particle interactions, 2019/01/27, Update 2019/10/06 – in German at the following link:

    https://lenr.wiki/index.php/Der_E-Cat_SK_und_Particleinteractions_with_gro%C3%9Fer_Range

    We are all looking forward to the first E-cats.
    Good luck and keep going.
    best regards from Essen in Ger.

  • George N

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    If you are able to develop the 1kw sklep before you reach the one million pre-orders, will you allow existing pre-orders to switch ten 100-watt skleps for one 1kw sklep without reducing the pre-order count by 10? Or do you believe the 1 million pre-orders will be fulfilled before the 1kw sklep is commercially ready?

    Best,
    George N

  • Juan Carlos

    Do ANY of you have a half-way understandable way
    of explaining the process of how an E-cat functions?

    When I tell people, I say,
    “Well, it’s not nuclear… and there are no emissions …
    and for fuel it just uses a couple of teaspoons full of common chemicals…”

    And then THEY ask,”Ok, so how DOES it work?”

    And then I don’t know what to say.

    I’m sure it was like that 150 years ago,
    when people would ask how a light-bulb worked.
    Most people then did not know what an electrical current was,
    or resistance.
    But there you could always use the example of water
    flowing thru a pipe.

    But for the E-cat?
    My life would certainly be easier if I had some way
    to make it easier for people to understand.

    Thanks,
    Juan Carlos

  • Enzo Amato

    Caro Andrea Rossi,

    gli sviluppi recenti in Ucraina stanno attribuendo alla sua scoperta una responsabilità che forse lei mai pensava di avere.

    Il mondo si trova sul limite di una guerra mondiale che di fatto gira su un solo problema: l’approvigionamento energetico.

    Se la sua invenzione venisse immessa oggi sul mercato, molti dei motivi delle lotte tra Russia e il resto del mondo verrebbero a cadere.

    Un’energia a costo (quasi) zero e illimitata assicurerebbe una distensione e un benessere disponibile anche per gli sfigati del mondo.

    Non attenda oltre, Rossi, lei ha in mano un’arma letale in grado di uccidere ogni guerra: la usi subito senza attendere il milione di ordini!

    Diventerebbe veramente il salvatore del pianeta, la personalità più importante degli ultimi secoli, le darebbero una ventina di premi Nobel (e, last but not least, sarebbe ricchissimo): cosa vorrebbe di più?

    Saluti

    Enzo Amato

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    recent developments in Ukraine are giving your discovery a responsibility that you perhaps never thought you had.

    The world is on the brink of a world war that is, in fact, about a single issue: energy supply.

    If your invention were brought to market today, many of the reasons for the struggles between Russia and the rest of the world would fall away.

    Unlimited (almost) zero-cost energy would ensure a relaxation and prosperity available even to the world’s losers.

    Don’t wait any longer, Rossi, you have in your hand a lethal weapon capable of killing any war: use it now without waiting for a million orders!

    You would truly become the saviour of the planet, the most important personality of the last centuries, you would be awarded twenty Nobel prizes (and, last but not least, you would be extremely rich): what more could you want?

    Greetings

    Enzo Amato

  • Dear Andrea
    If you can produce a 1kw ECAT this is the winning move, all of us expected it, and you will see how bookings will suddenly increase. Keep this low profile, no more talking about megawatt systems on your web site, complicated for you to assemble (10K 100W ECATs!!) and to ensure their continued work.
    The advantages of small generators are remarkable:
    the major energy producers will not immediately notice the revolution and in any case will have more time for their transition to … sheep herding!
    With 1 Kw generator you ensure the continuous recharging of the batteries for many applications and in some cases even the replacement of them.
    Not only will all power tools and portable devices benefit, but also electric bikes, mopeds, little boats and even current electric cars. The average consumption for these is 15kwh per 100Km, so for an average use of 100 km per day having a 1 kW recharger on board in operation H24 7/7 (24 kWh) avoids external recharging, and temporarily reassures the car producers who do not have to immediately modify their production plans.
    Furthermore, with 3 or 5 kW, more than 90% of the houses in the world can become autonomous!
    For intensive energy consuming industries it will take longer, but it is better this way also not to upset the markets which will shake anyway.
    Go on Andrea.
    Neri

  • Gavino Mamia

    Dr. Rossi, I am convinced that this war will only end when Europe can become independent of Russian energy resources.
    It is trying to do so but only in words, some nations, including Italy, are convinced that they can become autonomous in the long term, benefiting from the sun and wind.
    In my opinion you should organize a meeting with some EU delegates and make a demonstration of the Ecat.
    The rest of the world will also become aware that it can become autonomous from an energy point of view and will relegate Russia to wheat production alone.
    Is this the time to act or it will be too late.
    If they don’t see with their own eyes they will continue to disbelieve this opportunity.
    The world will be grateful to you and it will be much more important than the economic side you want to protect.
    P.S. I already know your answer (thanks for the advice) but I will continue to ask

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    Difficult to answer, the decrease of Entropy is not easy to get a model for.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I am looking for an analog to Zero Point Energy extraction.

    Is what you are doing similar to extracting energy from waves in an ocean? Some people have designed systems to extract power from the vertical displacement caused by a passing wave. Extracting the energy from the wave does no “harm” to the ocean. It just removes a slight bit of energy. Thoughts?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Paolo Mondiale:
    I worked for years on the Seebeck Effect in the USA between the year 1996 and 2000, and I think I know quite well the matter. The efficiency of the thermoelectric chips is very low when you have to produce them massively, due to the complexity of the directional fusion of the semiconductors. We obtained acceptable efficiency when making prototypes by means of a very expensive and not massively applicable process, but when we tried to make them in bulk quantities with acceptable production costs, the results have been disappointing.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Paolo Mondiale

    Mr Rossi,
    I suggest you the powerchips to convert thermal energy into electrical one, the Ecats use it ?
    Paolo Mondiale

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