United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Ruedi

    Dear Mr. Rossi,
    i already wrote that you still have a headstart and an advance even if you start the production with just 800,000 orders. But you could try to convince politicians of EU-countries. I guess they are very desperate as the result of their failed sanctions, which now beatback 10 times harder to the initiators of the sanctions.
    So write to your local deputy/assemblyman where you are able to show a working ecat sklep. Make the demonstration simple, just a light bulb with 100 Watt and an ammeter before the ecat. So this deputy can talk with his regime and maybe they give you the needed promotion (in the form of money or recommendation).
    Best regards
    R.Brand

  • Rafal

    @Sture Andreasson

    > I ask you once again to show a picture of E-CatLEP interconnected, so that they produce 220 Volt ALTERNATING CURRENT.

    I think it is much too complicated for E-CAT to produce 230V AC directly, unless it is strictly limited to off-grid usage.

    If you want to use it as additional source of energy together with grid connection then this device needs to fulfill a lot of formal requirements, like “anti-islanding protections”, ability to synchronize with the grid or react to over-voltage. These requirements are called RfG (Requirements for Generators) and are mandatory in EU:
    https://www.entsoe.eu/network_codes/rfg/

    This means it would be probably much more effective to have E-CAT producing DC with voltage between 250-400V. Then you can probably connect it to one of DC inputs of typical solar inverter. Although I’m not sure if this would play out with inverter’s MPPT function. This an option for which I’m waiting as well before I put my order.

    I think, that in the long run it would be possible to have specific inverters for DC 12V E-CAT, but as I wrote already it would be quite complicated to follow all legal requirements.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Giovanna:
    Thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jan Srajer:
    That will be possible after the diffusion of the product,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jan Šrajer

    Mr. Rossi
    How about getting Leonardo on the stock market? This could ensure a smooth start.
    All the best.

  • Giovanna

    Dr Rossi,
    I appreciate your sincere answer to Andreas and Enzo Amato,
    Best
    Giovanna

  • Andrea Rossi

    Enzo Amato:
    Please read the answer to Andreas of minutes ago,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Andreas and Enzo Amato:
    This answer is to both of you, due to the fact that substantially you put the same questions.
    My answer is combined by the following issues:
    1- We have precise contracts on course that bind us to reach a precise economy scale, obviously, as I said, keeping the numbers with good sense
    2- We reached pre-orders for about 800000 units, most of them made by big buyers
    3- Obviously, before starting to manufacture even “only” 800000 units we need to have the guarantee to be paid
    4- We do not have problems with the crowd of small buyers, that surely have the money to pay, sauf some exception that would not have relevant
    consequences
    5- Unfortunately, many big buyers are not able to give us evidence to dispose of the financial grounds necessary to guarantee us to be able to pay
    6- As a consequence of this fact, we do not have so far enough pre-ordered units to sustain the manufacturing and the distribution
    7- We cannot deliver small quantities for the following reasons:
    8- We have an army of enemies- that surely are among the Clients that ordered one or few units- that will attempt to disparage the product
    9- The point 8 can be resolved only if a mass of satisfied Clients obliterates the foes
    10- Many other Clients will use the few units bought to make the reverse engineering
    11- The points 8 and 10 would have catastrophic consequences for our investors
    12- To confront successfully the points 1 through 11 it is important to dispose of a strong financial power of fire, otherwise our Team and our technology will be annihilated within weeks, if not days, after a superficial and naif distribution.
    I empathyze your feelings, but also I hope you can understand that this situation is strategically very complex. This does not mean we will not be able to resolve it: we are working very hard.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Enzo Amato

    Caro Dr. Rossi, il dicembre scorso le scrissi:

    „Caro Dott. Rossi,
    qual è la soglia minima per iniziare la produzione degli eCat? Se ad esempio dovesse raggiungere 800.000 ordini e le ordinazioni dovessero poi più o meno fermarsi, che fa? Butta tutto alle ortiche e rinuncia a vendere il suo progetto?
    Non posso crederci…“

    Lei rispose:

    „Enzo Amato:
    Obviously good sense will be applied,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.“

    Ora a quanto ho capito gli 800k ordini sono arrivati e si sono quasi fermati, quello che non vedo è il “good sense”. Si continua ad attendere la cifra magica di 1000k di ordini.
    Francamente non capisco quale strategia persegua Leonardo Corporation. Disponendo di una “scatola magica” come l’Ecat, io spedirei cento apparecchi a clienti scelti che potrebbero testare l’aggeggio.
    Se il dispositivo funziona, in dieci minuti avrebbe milioni di ordini e nei media la notizia letteralmente esploderebbe.

    Problema risolto.

    Invece si continua ad attendere il numero magico di un milione di ordini dei quali alla fine non è neanche garantito che essi si trasformeranno in vendite effettive.

    Questa è una strategia per me inspiegabile. A meno che, riecco l’avvocato del diavolo, non sia tutto un fake.

    ENGLISH TRANSLATION

    Dear Dr. Rossi, last december I wrote:

    “Dear Dr. Rossi,
    what is the minimum threshold to start production of eCats? If, for example, you were to reach 800,000 orders and orders then more or less stop, what do you do? Does he throw it all away and give up selling his project?
    I can’t believe it…”

    She replied
    “Enzo Amato:
    Obviously good sense will be applied,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.”

    Now as I understand it the 800k orders have come in but almost stopped, what I don’t see is the “good sense.” One keeps waiting for the magic figure of 1000k orders.
    Frankly, I do not understand what strategy Leonardo Corporation is pursuing. Having a “magic box” like the Ecat, I would ship a hundred devices to selected customers who could test the device.
    If it works in ten minutes it would have millions of orders and in the media the news would literally explode.

    Problem solved.

    Instead you keep waiting for the magic number of a million orders of which there is not even a guarantee in the end that they will turn into actual sales.

    This is an inexplicable strategy to me. Unless – the devil’s advocate is here again- it is all a fake.

  • Andreas

    Dr. Rossi,

    Do I understand you correctly, that if you don’t reach the 1.000.000 preorders your invention will be “Lost” for Mankind because of financal terms? That would be a pitty.
    I can’t believe that your only interest are in earning money. As many readers said before:
    If you start delivering even with 800k units the request will rise exponential with the proof of function.
    And even if someone will try to do reengineering they won’t be able to supply parts within weeks.

    BR
    Andreas

  • DrLG

    To Fellow ECAT enthusiasts:

    Dr. Rossi now has an image of the AI controller box on his website, at

    https://ecat.com/ecat-sklep

    about halfway down on the left hands side.

    Its total volume looks to be about equal to volume of 1.5 to 2 SKLep’s, a bit thinner, a bit shorter, but wider.

    Just noticed it, wouldn’t be surprised if it has been there for weeks.

    Best Regards
    LarryG

  • Andrea Rossi

    JPR:
    Correct,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Antony:
    Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team.
    To make a pre-order, please go to
    http://www.ecat.com
    then fill up the order form and send it,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    SMG:
    Thank you for your kind sustain,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Sture Andreasson:
    I suggest you to proceed with the solar panel system, also because it can be easily integrated with an Ecat Sysyem.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Sture Andreasson

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Several of my neighbors are in the process of installing solar panels on their roofs. I have been offered an atractive price, if I install at the same time as the neighbors. But I have waited more than ten years for your invention to become a reality. Now it seems that if you don’t get up to 1,000,000 in pre-orders, the world is missing out on your ingenious invention.

    Warm Regards
    To you and your team
    Sture Andreasson

  • SMG

    Dr Rossi,
    We understand all the problems you are confronting with, but we trust you and we are sure that your unbelievable technology will have the success it merits.
    God bless you and your team,
    Silent Majority Guy

  • Sture Andreasson

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Several of my neighbors are in the process of installing solar panels on their roofs. I have been offered an atractive price, if I install at the same time as the neighbors. But I have waited more than ten years for your invention to become a reality. Now it seems that if you don’t get up to 1,000,000 in pre-orders, the world is missing out on your ingenious invention. If it after all becomes a reality, I ask you once again to show a picture of E-CatLEP interconnected, so that they produce 220 Volt ALTERNATING CURRENT.

    Warm Regards
    To you and your team
    Sture Andreasson

  • Antony

    Dr Rossi,
    I appreciated the SKLep presentation’s video on
    http://www.ecat.com
    How can I order the Ecat SKLep ?
    All the best,
    Antony

  • Andrea Rossi

    Maico:
    I still think we should be able to start the deliveries by this year, even if we had to cancel many orders from big buyers because after the vetting process we verified that they did not have the financial ground to support the payments they should do at the delivery.
    I sympathize your wish, though,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Heinz Sause:
    Your request is a nonsense: obviously if we reach our target we will start the global manufactiring because it is our interest, and surely we will not give out data upon which we are bound by NDAs. By the way, we did not and will not collect any money before we will inform who made a pre-order that we are ready to deliver, so nobody will be damaged and no money will change hands in case we will not reach the target of pre-orders. The pre-order form says clearly that if we will not reach the target of 1 million units ordered the pre-orders will be void. This said, any pre-order can be cancelled by the Clients anytime before the delivery.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Maico

    Dear Dr. Rossi

    Unfortunately there is no news on the number of “certified” pre-orders. I can imagine that the necessary economic checks with large buyers are complicated.
    Due to this slowdown, are you still convinced of being able to start delivery of the SKlep by 2022?
    After 11 years of unconditional support, we are looking forward to the much desired news: “The delivery of the 1,000,000 Skleps has begun !!!

    Regards

    Maico

  • Heinz Sause

    hello dr rossi,
    I was pretty close to the deadline with my tip for reaching 100,000 readers, but I was wrong.
    My assumption that during this time the pre-order of 1 million. e-catslep would have been achieved but has been disappointed.
    My initial use is to support an accumulator on my e-bike.
    As things stand now, however, it will take weeks
    the required number of pre-orders is reached.
    And then who knows how long the delivery .
    I have therefore decided to equip my bike with a “superwheel”
    to equip.
    Anyway, the order is out!
    .
    How can you ensure that for us e-catsklep customers
    the pre-orders for the e-catsklep are checked by an independent body ?

  • JPR

    About the comment Roberto made yesterday, I agree with him and think opportune to add that I checked many of the recommendations received on Researchgate by the paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    and discovered that most of them are physicists and that the Countries the recommendations mostly arrive from are USA and EU, albeit they come also from practically all the continents of the world.
    Best
    Jean Paul Renoir

  • Prof

    @Roberto
    I totally agree with you,
    Prof

  • Roberto

    @Prof
    About the stats you commented now, I’d add the following consideration: the number of recommendations is very impressive, because all the recommendations are made public to the readers of Researchgate; looking at them, at least a thousand has been made by physicists, who put their face on it; this is some peer reviewing !
    Roberto

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    Thank you for the update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Thank you for your analysis,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Prof

    Dr Rossi,
    Here are the stats of your papers on Researchgate I found today on
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    Total Readings: 109000 ( of which 100560 only for “Ecat SK and long range particle interactions” )
    Recommendations: 7341
    Citations + Mentions: 53
    Research Interest index: 1877
    and counting…
    Prof

  • gary ludwig

    What great fun for senpai !!!

  • WaltC

    Dr. Rossi,

    For my own purposes, I wanted to make a comparison of the Ecat-SKLep cost vs. current U.S. average natural gas (mBTU) and electricity (kWh) rates. I thought I’d share that here (and someone can correct me, if I miscalculated).

    Background/Assumptions:
    1) It’s based purely on the cost of the Ecat & does not include other costs (labor, inverters, housings…).
    2) The Ecat runs full-on or full-off– i.e., there are no partial-power hours that utilize 100% service hours.
    3) Conversion: 1 kWh = 3412 BTU.

    **** Calculations: ****

    Current Average US Utility Rates (as of May 2022):
    Electricity: $0.1383/kWh
    Heat (Natural Gas): $7.38/mBTU (million BTU)

    Calculated Ecat-SKLep rates based on 3yr Warranty Period:
    Electricity: $0.0951/kWh
    Heat: $27.85/mBTU

    Calculated Ecat-SKLep rates based on 11.4yr Service life (100K hours):
    Electricity: $0.0250/kWh
    Heat: $7.33/mBTU

    **** Conclusions: ****

    In comparison to average US utility rates of electricity and natural gas:
    1) Electricity generation via the Ecat-SKLep is cost-effective at 3+ years.
    2) Heat generation is not cost-effective at 3 years and marginally cost-effective at the full 11.4 years of service life (and less so, after factoring in other labor & equipment costs).

    **** Comment: ****

    The current, initial Ecat price-point is a reasonable start. High value applications, like transportation and power for remote off-grid locations, would greatly benefit at those prices. On-grid electricity users would also benefit at current Ecat pricing, although there needs to be off-the-shelf solutions for associated hardware (such as inverters that can efficiently balance load across multiple Ecat-SKLeps). Current-day natural gas applications may have to wait before they become cost-effective, but as with many new and evolving advanced technologies, that wait may not be all that long.

    Best Wishes,
    WaltC

  • Andrea Rossi

    senpai:
    Thank you for your comment. I received your address in my email, and it will remain confidential. I will send you the Ecat SKLep when we will start the deliveries,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • senpai

    Wow, I just found out that I’m really the winner of the 100K readings lottery.
    Thanks to LarryG for organizing this lottery.
    And thank you Dr. Rossi for making this new kind of energy possible.

    As a long time silent follower of ECAT technology and this blog I’m eagerly waiting to hold one of the SKLep in my hands.
    Much more difficult to speculate on a delivery date here, though.

  • Andrea Rossi

    DrLG:
    Confidential at this time,
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    DrLG:
    Please watch carefully the video of the SKLep presentation on
    http://www.ecat.com
    Warm regards,
    A.R.

  • DrLG

    Dear Dr. Rossi

    Re your “teaser” post to Roberto today re solar panels, any chance of getting some more info?:

    Are these tests looking at
    1) solar panels as a power source for start up of the SKLep, or
    2) using the light generated by the SKLep plasma to illuminate the solar panel so only the solar panel provides the final output power, or
    3) the solar panel augments the output from the SKLep by making use of the light generated by the plasma
    4) a bit more info if none of the above are close to the mark.
    5) confidential at this time 🙂

    Best Regards
    LarryG

    referenced post:

    https://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=892&cpage=702#comment-1591054

    2022-05-08 08:11 Andrea Rossi
    Roberto:
    Yes, we are making tests with prototypes of solar panels integrated with the Ecat technology, with very interesting results,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • DrLG

    Dear Dr, Rossi

    You confirmed 4/24/2022 that you are working on an ECAT version that does not need an external power source. Posts are shown below.

    1) Have you demonstrated that this is feasible?
    ______a.Eg something as simple as using an A/C in and out SKLep version, use a low wH capacity charged UPS as the power source, plug the SKLep into the UPS, plug an A/C splitter plug plugged into the SKLep A/C output (assuming the SKLep has only out outlet), and then the UPS plugged into the splitter.
    ______b.If you do not have a working A/C in and out SKLep prototype, use a DC/DC SKLep and insert between the UPS and SKLep a low power AC/DC converter, and a DC/AC converter between the SKLep and the splitter.

    2) nice thing about the AC/AC version is you can insert two wattmeters in the loop to measure COP without need for any voltage/current/resistance measurements.

    3)This is picky, but is it not true that it can never be 100% self starting,… you always need some energy from another source to start the SKLep up?
    _________Eg in the example above, the UPS has to be charged to be able to start up the SKLep. You first have to plug the UPS into a power source to charge the UPS battery, then unplug it from that source and plug it into the SKLep AC output to make the system totally independent from any other power source.

    Best Regards
    LarryG

    Posts for reference:
    ====================================
    United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1 « Journal of Nuclear Physics (journal-of-nuclear-physics.com)
    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
    Do you think that sooner or later you will show an Ecat that will make energy without any external power source ?
    CC

    United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1 « Journal of Nuclear Physics (journal-of-nuclear-physics.com)CC:
    We are working on it,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • m.elshoff

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    here is the german Tranlation for all german e-cat fans

    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions

  • Andrea Rossi

    M. Elshoff:
    Danke !
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    CC:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Roberto:
    Yes, we are making tests with prototypes of solar panels integrated with the Ecat technology, with very interesting results,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jean Paul Renoir:
    I agree, the recommendations are all public on Researchgate, and I noticed that thousands of the recommendations granted to the paper you cited are made by physicists, or by professionals related to Physics.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard,
    We are working on it ( the 1 kW module, not the F1 ! )
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Greg Leonard

    Dear AR,
    Major event in Miami today!!
    Not, unfortunately, a demonstration of the 1kW device, or even that production of SKlep has started
    The event is a Formula 1 race around a newly constructed circuit in the city – complete with a false marina.
    Influx of 240,000 ticket holders over a few days will mean you had better avoid Miami for a bit!
    A multiple World Champion has described the circuit as ‘driving a go-kart around a B&Q (major DIY store) carpark’.
    regards
    Greg Leonard
    PS Can we expect news on the 1kW device soon, and news of production of SKlep?

  • Jean Paul Renoir

    Dr Rossi,
    I want to congratulate for the over 100000 readings of
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    and for the thousands of recommendations made by scientists, which can surely be considered peer reviews,
    JPR

  • Roberto

    Dr Rossi,
    Could the Ecat SKLep technology be applied to solar panels ?

  • CC

    Dr Rossi,
    Are you still in contact with universities for the R&D related to the Ecat ?
    All the best,
    CC

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jan Srajer:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gavino Mamia:
    I already explained our situation, although I sympathize your comment,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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