Marketing is important. To reach more publicity you should contact f.e. youtube influencers of every country.
You could invite them to test your product (of course under your watch). It will cost you nearly nothing.
These Channels could be: DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse, Veritasium, Andreas Schmitz, Norio, Breaking Lab and surely much more.
Audun:
Thank you for the suggestion, but the Ecat so far needs an energy source even in SSM. Your opinion contains a good suggestion, though, even if in a different context we are thinking about.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels,
I like your approach. Out of curiosity, do you have a kWh meter, either, DC and/or AC? That’s especially useful if you have a time-varying load.
Your order reserves can easily reach millions if you for instance can do a demo under 3party review where you show an electric car driving 400+ miles – energized with your product and with no use of external energy sources. For the moment it seems like adequate basic marketing is missing from your project! Its really strange that there is no more demos if the goal is to sell millions of it directly to end customers.
An update on my Prototype systems. Recall I am using 3 12VDC power supplies to feed an Enphase IQ7A micro-inverter tied to the Grid. The 3 12VDC power supplies were adjusted to output 14 VDC and tied in series. They are a substitute until the SKLep units are received.
I recently added an AC power meter to measure the input voltage and power to the Prototype and a DC power meter to measure the DC power and voltage going to the micro-inverter. The output of the micro-inverter is measured by an AC power meter as part of an electrical subpanel.
AC Input – 116VAC @ 464.4W
DC Output of power supplies (tied in series) – 42.5 VDC @ 390.0W
Grid Power added: 364.7W @ 240.6 VAC
Measured Enphase conversion efficiency: 93.5% – within range of the specified conversion efficiency of 95%
Measured DC Power supply conversion efficiency: 84% – low, likely due to overloading the 100W power supplies
Averaged DC power supply output voltage: 14.2 VDC – 12VDC power supplies may be adjusted to this voltage.
I plan to do similar testing with the other two Prototypes I have constructed. I am ready for delivery of the SKLep units that I have ordered.
Claus Buerger:
Just add to your original pre-order all the units you want and resend the updated pre-order with the same date of the original,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Another possible major demand for SKLep power is for international sea shipping…While crossing the ocean, ships peak power demand is probably not too much higher than average power demand during voyage because the engines should dominate the power consumption. Also make it feasible to increase speeds to reduce crossing times without a big cost increase.
And apparently even diesel/electric ship power systems are better than diesel direct to the propeller, and are being put into use recently: https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/discoveries/electrified-ships/
so on these ships just replace the diesels with SKLep.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
thanks for your work, your braveness and endurance.
We did order 10 Ecat SKLep some weeks ago and now our additional collective order did raise to more than 100.
Because you will deliver the ECats according to their date of order.
Should we now change our first 10-Ecats Order and increasingly add the new orders from the collective order?
HI, Dr Rossi
There was an article in the Washington Post about green aluminum. There are plans to revamp a Alcoa Intalco plant, but one the big problems is now to power the plant. The Bonneville Power Administration, says it dose not have enough power, to power the plant.
You mentioned in the past, to paraphrase, that you thought the SKLep technology would be coupled with other energy sources for a hybrid solution to our energy demands. The obvious examples include some sort of combination of grid, battery, solar, and SKLep. This should allow the grid power to reduce to as green a solution as possible.
Here is a green grid solution upgrade I have not seen mentioned in this blog before that I think has the potential of really taking off when SKLep plants become available.
I recently remembered an implementation of hydroelectric power…during off peak demand times, the water gets pumped back up the “hill” to the source reservoir so that smaller rivers can still supply larger amounts of peak power.
I was surprised at how much of this pumped-storage hydroelectricity (PSH or PHES) is in use now to provide peak power needs. Switzerland has about one-third of its electrical demand through PSH. US has about 2%. EU about 5%. Peak power output apparently is 20+X this.
Unlike pure hydro-electric, this system only needs water to initially fill the reservoir, then only enough water supply to replace the evaporated/ground soaked water losses. This greatly increases the locations that are good potential PSH sites compared to regular hydro sites that need lots of water flow from a river. And total reservoir size is probably much less for same power output.
Of course, instead of pumping the water back up hill using grid power, use SKLep power plant. How much SKLep power to use to pump water vs supplying the grid would be an interesting overall efficiency calculation.
Perhaps the most interesting application here is to convert standard river supplied dams to “pump back hybrids” so they can supply peak power all the time. Currently they cannot supply peak power all the time because the reservoir is not filled by the river fast enough. This would dramatically increase the average power output from these dams and reduce capital cost of adding more green energy.
On the negative side, it might be less expensive to just put DC/AC converters on the SKLep plant. In this case use the dam as a “battery” that may be less expensive long term than regular batteries, and “charge” the “battery” during times when average power demand is less than the max power output of the SKLep plant.
Lots of net cost and efficiency nuances here so I might be totally off-base re this being a good SKLep plant application, but it probably should be looked at closely.
Dear Dr. Rossi: I have been a loyal follower and advocate for your research for more than 12 years, but I can tell you that if you DO NOT start shipping units before the end of the year even I will stop being a loyal follower. I think there are many things you could do to increase interest in the E-CAT and improve the sales numbers. First take some photos of units attached to inverters powering various loads. Second take some photos of your fabrication facility with the robotic manufacturing systems you say are ready. Third, recommend a few inverter models/brands that you have tried and tested with the E-CAT so the public will know what to buy when their E-CAT does ship. Please do SOMETHING to help assure the public that your product is real and that production is possible. You are losing credibility by doing nothing. I want you to succeed please try harder for everyone’s sake.
It would be very helpful if a physical example of a typical home use was tested and demonstrated. Perhaps comprising 30 to 40 x 100w SKLeps with a suitable inverter.
The Israel company, http://h2pro.co , is based on research performed at the Technion. They are planning large scale production facilities for ‘green’ Hydrogen. Their stated goal is to produce Hydrogen at ~ $2.00 per Kilogram. With further development, their long term plan is to produce Hydrogen at ~ $1.00 per Kg.
Another company developing ‘Green H2’ is https://www.sgh2energy.com/ (super green H2). They use a different approach than H2pro.
Besides the similarity of ‘E-TAC’ to ‘E-CAT’, the cost per Kg. of ‘Green H2’ would benefit from access to lower cost electricity. (from the E-CAT).
Dear Dr. Rossi,
You described plan A and B, time for a plan C.
Raise the price of the Ecat to $300 and you have the sales for 1 million Cats for $250 now at 800,000 units. After the run on the e-cat has really started and the million mark has been exceeded, it is necessary to credit the additional charge of 50 § / e-cat to the 800,000 faithful pre-orderers
rub, in whatever form. This allows you to look to the future in a relaxed manner and the Cat can move forward. the world becomes a little happier.
Sincerely, M. Elshoff
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The first testing facility for big buyers will be available in:
1) one month,
2) two months,
3) three months, or
4) more than three months.
Best regards,
Darko
When one million preorders are received deliveries will start.
Does this imply that Leonardo has sufficient inventory in possession to begin shipping and manufacturing will be restarted to complete the balance of orders?
Dear dr. Rossi,
The tension , when will the curtain be lifted, goes on and causes big pains to us readers and buyers.
But now a reputable question: Would you be able to start the distribution of the SKlep, if the 1 million goal would be reachhed in the next days. If not, how long would it need?
Thank you for answering and the time, you invest beside your daily work to this blog.
Hope your Birthday was an excellent one and full of expected and unexpected presents!
Have ‘followed’ you and your team’s Herculean Labours for some 11 years and with David’s post and,no doubt thoughts of other Readers, particularly those, as myself who have ‘signed up’ for 30 + units, would be delighted to see such ‘a home’ so equipped and functioning on relatively few units – is this unreasonable? as ‘all will be revealed’ and’you will be individually aided’ is getting rather tiresome and stale
However warm Regards to you and yor team!
Peter
Angelo Moriondo was an Italian inventor usually credited for patenting the earliest known espresso machine, in 1884. His machine used a combination of steam and boiling water to efficiently brew coffee. Angelo Moriondo came from an entrepreneurial family.
Born: 6 June 1851, Turin, Italy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Moriondo
The reason I ask is because it could be financially interesting to a home user like me.
It could become interesting at my place with following use case:
– 30 x 100W SKLep’s
– a 2 (or 3) phase grid tied inverter
– possibility to inject unused electricity to the grid
– receiving a fixed (but low) price for injected electricity
– using a part of the energy for heating (heath pump for example)
Adding a battery pack would not benefit the use case, they cost to much right now.
Mr. Steven Nicholes Karels
Imagine this calculation: 100 generators of 100W = 10kW arranged in an area of 1x1m and continuously, via a regulator, charging the batteries 65kWh of the electric car. The average consumption of 20kWh / 100km is, with the classic equipment, only with batteries, for a range of 300km in winter and for one charge. By adding 100 generators, the range in the winter will increase to 450 km, but mainly the batteries can be charged overnight without using the mains. It’s an incredible improvement for city car traffic, it’s a revolution.
All the best J.Š.
Mr. Steven Nicholes Karels
I think the 100W/12V generator is exactly the ideal value for rapid expansion to customers. It is at the limit of the possibilities of both reducing and increasing of the electric power. This is important at the start of production.
All the best J.Š.
Can you discuss the prospective advantages of a 1kW SKLep compared to a 100W SKLep? Not actual differences but why you are exploring the 1kW version? For example, easier to manufacture, lower cost/kW-hr produced, better control, more likely user acceptance…
Roberto:
Intuitively, small modules should have less efficiency and, consequently, generate more nuclear wastes/MW; also, many units have more probabilities to generate human errors than one unit; this said, I do not have enough information to have a precise opinion.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Steven Nicholes Karels,
thanks for the data. In this case I would need four Ecats in a row adjusted to about 10.6V each.
@Andrea Rossi
Is it possible to adjust the output voltage of the Ecat to 10.6V?
Dear Mr. Rossi,
Marketing is important. To reach more publicity you should contact f.e. youtube influencers of every country.
You could invite them to test your product (of course under your watch). It will cost you nearly nothing.
These Channels could be: DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse, Veritasium, Andreas Schmitz, Norio, Breaking Lab and surely much more.
Best regards
Frank H.
Audun:
Thank you for the suggestion, but the Ecat so far needs an energy source even in SSM. Your opinion contains a good suggestion, though, even if in a different context we are thinking about.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels,
I like your approach. Out of curiosity, do you have a kWh meter, either, DC and/or AC? That’s especially useful if you have a time-varying load.
WaltC
Your order reserves can easily reach millions if you for instance can do a demo under 3party review where you show an electric car driving 400+ miles – energized with your product and with no use of external energy sources. For the moment it seems like adequate basic marketing is missing from your project! Its really strange that there is no more demos if the goal is to sell millions of it directly to end customers.
Kind regards
Audun
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for sharing
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
An update on my Prototype systems. Recall I am using 3 12VDC power supplies to feed an Enphase IQ7A micro-inverter tied to the Grid. The 3 12VDC power supplies were adjusted to output 14 VDC and tied in series. They are a substitute until the SKLep units are received.
I recently added an AC power meter to measure the input voltage and power to the Prototype and a DC power meter to measure the DC power and voltage going to the micro-inverter. The output of the micro-inverter is measured by an AC power meter as part of an electrical subpanel.
AC Input – 116VAC @ 464.4W
DC Output of power supplies (tied in series) – 42.5 VDC @ 390.0W
Grid Power added: 364.7W @ 240.6 VAC
Measured Enphase conversion efficiency: 93.5% – within range of the specified conversion efficiency of 95%
Measured DC Power supply conversion efficiency: 84% – low, likely due to overloading the 100W power supplies
Averaged DC power supply output voltage: 14.2 VDC – 12VDC power supplies may be adjusted to this voltage.
I plan to do similar testing with the other two Prototypes I have constructed. I am ready for delivery of the SKLep units that I have ordered.
CC:
True, and I think it gives evidence that our theoretical system is interesting,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
After the publication in January 2019 of the paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
there has been a fluorishing of patent application to harvest the Zero Point Energy harvesting, as you have shown in paragraph 6 of that paper,
Cheers
CC
Claus Buerger:
Just add to your original pre-order all the units you want and resend the updated pre-order with the same date of the original,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
DrLG:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi.
Another possible major demand for SKLep power is for international sea shipping…While crossing the ocean, ships peak power demand is probably not too much higher than average power demand during voyage because the engines should dominate the power consumption. Also make it feasible to increase speeds to reduce crossing times without a big cost increase.
And apparently even diesel/electric ship power systems are better than diesel direct to the propeller, and are being put into use recently:
https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/discoveries/electrified-ships/
so on these ships just replace the diesels with SKLep.
need 30-50 MW power per https://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/752-cruise-ship-engine-propulsion-fuel#:~:text=(37%20megawatts).-,Marine%20diesel%20engines,80%20kilowatts%20per%20cubic%20meter.
This is new political hot spot too…..
“President Joe Biden launched a renewed push Thursday to reduce the costs of shipping goods across oceans, a major challenge for retailers”
https://apnews.com/article/space-launches-biden-oceans-prices-business-5ed1bd655920f34e31eb777a87197134
Best Regards
LarryG
Dear Andrea Rossi,
thanks for your work, your braveness and endurance.
We did order 10 Ecat SKLep some weeks ago and now our additional collective order did raise to more than 100.
Because you will deliver the ECats according to their date of order.
Should we now change our first 10-Ecats Order and increasingly add the new orders from the collective order?
Greatings from Germany
Claus
Robert Maxwell:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Claus Buerger:
Better first to connect in parallel the DC output, eventually turn DC into AC by means of an inverter.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
thank you for your work and endurance.
Will there be an additional device that can be used to connect several AC Ecat units in parallel to get more output lines?
Greatings from Germany
Claus
HI, Dr Rossi
There was an article in the Washington Post about green aluminum. There are plans to revamp a Alcoa Intalco plant, but one the big problems is now to power the plant. The Bonneville Power Administration, says it dose not have enough power, to power the plant.
DrLG:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter Thomas:
Thank you for your suggeston,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Barry mead:
Thank you for your opinion and for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi
Some large scale SKLep usage thoughts.
You mentioned in the past, to paraphrase, that you thought the SKLep technology would be coupled with other energy sources for a hybrid solution to our energy demands. The obvious examples include some sort of combination of grid, battery, solar, and SKLep. This should allow the grid power to reduce to as green a solution as possible.
Here is a green grid solution upgrade I have not seen mentioned in this blog before that I think has the potential of really taking off when SKLep plants become available.
I recently remembered an implementation of hydroelectric power…during off peak demand times, the water gets pumped back up the “hill” to the source reservoir so that smaller rivers can still supply larger amounts of peak power.
reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity
I was surprised at how much of this pumped-storage hydroelectricity (PSH or PHES) is in use now to provide peak power needs. Switzerland has about one-third of its electrical demand through PSH. US has about 2%. EU about 5%. Peak power output apparently is 20+X this.
Unlike pure hydro-electric, this system only needs water to initially fill the reservoir, then only enough water supply to replace the evaporated/ground soaked water losses. This greatly increases the locations that are good potential PSH sites compared to regular hydro sites that need lots of water flow from a river. And total reservoir size is probably much less for same power output.
Of course, instead of pumping the water back up hill using grid power, use SKLep power plant. How much SKLep power to use to pump water vs supplying the grid would be an interesting overall efficiency calculation.
Perhaps the most interesting application here is to convert standard river supplied dams to “pump back hybrids” so they can supply peak power all the time. Currently they cannot supply peak power all the time because the reservoir is not filled by the river fast enough. This would dramatically increase the average power output from these dams and reduce capital cost of adding more green energy.
On the negative side, it might be less expensive to just put DC/AC converters on the SKLep plant. In this case use the dam as a “battery” that may be less expensive long term than regular batteries, and “charge” the “battery” during times when average power demand is less than the max power output of the SKLep plant.
Lots of net cost and efficiency nuances here so I might be totally off-base re this being a good SKLep plant application, but it probably should be looked at closely.
Best Regards
Larry G.
Dear Dr. Rossi: I have been a loyal follower and advocate for your research for more than 12 years, but I can tell you that if you DO NOT start shipping units before the end of the year even I will stop being a loyal follower. I think there are many things you could do to increase interest in the E-CAT and improve the sales numbers. First take some photos of units attached to inverters powering various loads. Second take some photos of your fabrication facility with the robotic manufacturing systems you say are ready. Third, recommend a few inverter models/brands that you have tried and tested with the E-CAT so the public will know what to buy when their E-CAT does ship. Please do SOMETHING to help assure the public that your product is real and that production is possible. You are losing credibility by doing nothing. I want you to succeed please try harder for everyone’s sake.
Forgive me – to clarify
It would be very helpful if a physical example of a typical home use was tested and demonstrated. Perhaps comprising 30 to 40 x 100w SKLeps with a suitable inverter.
Warm regards
Peter
Bernie Morrissey:
We prefer to keep confidential this information, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
Are you able to answer to the number of orders of the SKLep that have been vetted?
Thank You
Bernie Morrissey
Dr Joseph Fine:
Thank you for the information and the links.
I am not able to answer,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Please see the following links:
Published paper on “E_TAC”:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-019-0462-7.epdf?author_access_token=rI0UIzcWotdOs_GwwDeG7tRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0MVEpapPv7W-5kAqqh2YgqlOMFMZXxrNIu9LDZh3CQPITR1rkU16DBZoHbIISRY-rUvgc88FiLOL4xKSyxI6T7yvURm0RKvof2jXeSc3r311Q%3D%3D
https://www.rsc.org/prizes-funding/prizes/2022-winners/e-tac-water-splitting?fbclid=IwAR0XX1bBquIVAUJHt-C_EA-lWpfHIimxDRhr3S40LKQrFzTXMOj6Utczm80&fs=e&s=cl
The Israel company, http://h2pro.co , is based on research performed at the Technion. They are planning large scale production facilities for ‘green’ Hydrogen. Their stated goal is to produce Hydrogen at ~ $2.00 per Kilogram. With further development, their long term plan is to produce Hydrogen at ~ $1.00 per Kg.
Another company developing ‘Green H2’ is https://www.sgh2energy.com/ (super green H2). They use a different approach than H2pro.
Besides the similarity of ‘E-TAC’ to ‘E-CAT’, the cost per Kg. of ‘Green H2’ would benefit from access to lower cost electricity. (from the E-CAT).
///////////////
Link to H2 costs:
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/rapid-development-could-push-cost-of-hydrogen-below-2kg-in-the-next-10-20/621836/
—Rapid development could push cost of hydrogen below $2/kg in the next 10-20 years, analysts say
Published April 11, 2022
—————
Do you think ‘Green H2’ can be produced at $1.00 per Kg?
Joseph Fine
Ron:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Are you studying or experimenting also mini Ecat SKLep, for example with a power of several W ?
M. Elshoff:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
You described plan A and B, time for a plan C.
Raise the price of the Ecat to $300 and you have the sales for 1 million Cats for $250 now at 800,000 units. After the run on the e-cat has really started and the million mark has been exceeded, it is necessary to credit the additional charge of 50 § / e-cat to the 800,000 faithful pre-orderers
rub, in whatever form. This allows you to look to the future in a relaxed manner and the Cat can move forward. the world becomes a little happier.
Sincerely, M. Elshoff
Darko:
I am not able to answer, because I do not know when we will receive orders for a total of 1 million units.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The first testing facility for big buyers will be available in:
1) one month,
2) two months,
3) three months, or
4) more than three months.
Best regards,
Darko
Prof:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
The paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
reached today 102000 readings.
And counting…
Best
Prof
GEORGE PRAZAK:
No, the delivery will start gradually,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
DR. ROSSI:
Your response to Andrea:
When one million preorders are received deliveries will start.
Does this imply that Leonardo has sufficient inventory in possession to begin shipping and manufacturing will be restarted to complete the balance of orders?
Patrick,
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter Thomas,
Sorry, I did not understand exactly what you are asking for: can you rephrase ?
Warm regards,
A.R.
Andreas:
As soon as we reach the target of one million units ordered we will start the deliveries,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear dr. Rossi,
The tension , when will the curtain be lifted, goes on and causes big pains to us readers and buyers.
But now a reputable question: Would you be able to start the distribution of the SKlep, if the 1 million goal would be reachhed in the next days. If not, how long would it need?
Thank you for answering and the time, you invest beside your daily work to this blog.
Andreas
Hope your Birthday was an excellent one and full of expected and unexpected presents!
Have ‘followed’ you and your team’s Herculean Labours for some 11 years and with David’s post and,no doubt thoughts of other Readers, particularly those, as myself who have ‘signed up’ for 30 + units, would be delighted to see such ‘a home’ so equipped and functioning on relatively few units – is this unreasonable? as ‘all will be revealed’ and’you will be individually aided’ is getting rather tiresome and stale
However warm Regards to you and yor team!
Peter
Dear Andrea,
Somewhat random fact:
Angelo Moriondo was an Italian inventor usually credited for patenting the earliest known espresso machine, in 1884. His machine used a combination of steam and boiling water to efficiently brew coffee. Angelo Moriondo came from an entrepreneurial family.
Born: 6 June 1851, Turin, Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Moriondo
Regards
Patrick
David:
The application you describe is possible.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Dr Rossi,
Has the SKLep been tested for use in homes?
The reason I ask is because it could be financially interesting to a home user like me.
It could become interesting at my place with following use case:
– 30 x 100W SKLep’s
– a 2 (or 3) phase grid tied inverter
– possibility to inject unused electricity to the grid
– receiving a fixed (but low) price for injected electricity
– using a part of the energy for heating (heath pump for example)
Adding a battery pack would not benefit the use case, they cost to much right now.
Would this use case be possible with SKLep’s?
Kind regards
David
Mr. Steven Nicholes Karels
Imagine this calculation: 100 generators of 100W = 10kW arranged in an area of 1x1m and continuously, via a regulator, charging the batteries 65kWh of the electric car. The average consumption of 20kWh / 100km is, with the classic equipment, only with batteries, for a range of 300km in winter and for one charge. By adding 100 generators, the range in the winter will increase to 450 km, but mainly the batteries can be charged overnight without using the mains. It’s an incredible improvement for city car traffic, it’s a revolution.
All the best J.Š.
Mr. Steven Nicholes Karels
I think the 100W/12V generator is exactly the ideal value for rapid expansion to customers. It is at the limit of the possibilities of both reducing and increasing of the electric power. This is important at the start of production.
All the best J.Š.
Steven Nichole’s Karels:
Easier assembling for big plants
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Can you discuss the prospective advantages of a 1kW SKLep compared to a 100W SKLep? Not actual differences but why you are exploring the 1kW version? For example, easier to manufacture, lower cost/kW-hr produced, better control, more likely user acceptance…
Roberto:
Intuitively, small modules should have less efficiency and, consequently, generate more nuclear wastes/MW; also, many units have more probabilities to generate human errors than one unit; this said, I do not have enough information to have a precise opinion.
Warm Regards,
A.R.