it is very obvious that family homes will be a good application for E-Cats.
However, there is one technical detail that complicates the easy installation:
In many European countries, installations with hybrid 3-phase inverters prevail (e.g. in existing PV installations).
These 3-phase hybrid inverters have a fairly high starting voltage at the input (strings): 200 Volts at Solax, 180 Volts at GoodWe etc.
So it is necessary to connect 18 pieces of E-Cat in series in order to achieve the necessary starting voltage for the inverters: 18×12 V = 216 V
Since many houses will need less power than 1.8 kW (18 pcs of E-Cats), DC-to-DC Step-Up converters will be needed, and therein lies the problem. Common types can convert from 12 V to 24 V or 48 V or 56 V, which still causes complications.
Dear Dr. Rossi, may you advise readers here on a suitable model of a DC-to-DC converter, where the output voltage would be higher than 200 V or another suitable solution how to connect less than 18 pcs of E-Cats into 3-phase hybrid inverter with starting voltage 200 V?
And one more question, since there will be a lot of interested parties for installations in family homes and industries, do you have a supplier that will sell cables where one end will have connectors suitable for E-Cat and the other end of the cable will have a standard MC4 connector for inverters?
This would make practical marketing and installations much easier.
I have already installed such a system at my home, currently with two solar panels. The system is registered as a balcony power plant with battery storage.
As soon as the ecats are available, I will replace the solar panels. The system is running, but there are still some questions.
If you want to contact me, please have a look at preschel.eu/impressum
SpaceX is developing the Starship, which consists of a Starship and a Heavy Booster. Takeoff propellant mass is rated at 1,200 Metric Tonnes. About 78% of the propellant mass is LOX — Liquid Oxygen.
Oxygen can be obtained from the air. So, local production would be possible for LOX. On the other hand, Liquid Methane would likely continue to be trucked to the launch site and stored there.
Truck transportation will be reduced as only the Liquid Methane will need to be transported which is about 22% of the entire propellant requirement.
Commercial LOX produces require about 3.6 MW-hrs of electrical energy to produce one Metric Tonne of LOX.
If we assume a production launch schedule on one Starship every 24 hours from a single site, then the LOX production locally (for one Starship launch) would require:
1,200 Metric Tonnes * 0.78% * 3.6 MW-hrs/Metric Tonne or about 140 MW of electrical power per 24-hour period.
Likewise, if we assume each Starship will have a 100 Metric Tonne payload and the 1 million Metric Tonnes are required to be transported to Mars, and further assuming a 3-year interval between the closest approaches of Earth and Mars (unmanned Starships don’t care long it takes to travel to Mars from the Earth), a total of 10,000 launches will be required over a three-year period, or about 10 launches per day.
With this assumption, then 10 such 140MW power systems would be required. This is just for LOX production needs. This requirement alone would meet your goal of 1 million 100W SKLep units.
This does not say that SpaceX will need to manufacture 10,000 Starship and Heavy Booster units. In situ fuel production is envisioned on Mars and, if this happens, then some Starships will return to Earth. The Heavy Boosters are reusable, so a fewer number of Boosters will be required as they never leave the Earth. The Boosters will be limited by the number of flights they can safely perform.
Your conceptual system will work on your average daily consumption but you will likely need Grid power to handle peak power requirements. As I understand your proposed concept, the SKLep units provide power to the batteries on a continuous basis. So, 5 x 100W of SKLep units will deliver 500 Watts or 12 kW-hrs in a single day. The battery charging conversion efficiency is likely around 80%, so the net daily charging will be about 9.6 kW-hrs per day.
If your residence used AC power, then you will need units to convert the battery power to safe AC power. By safe power, I include the requirement to automatically detect a Grid power outage and the removal of power going to the grid. This is to keep safe Grid maintenance people working on the Grid system. The battery-to-AC conversion system must be sized to handle peak and inductive AC loads (air conditions, motors, etc.).
My suggestion to AR was to replace the solar panel power that would usually feed such a battery system with SKLep provided power as the battery system would be normally required to perform the necessary safety functions mentioned above.
Regarding your suggestion for combining the ECAT with a battery system, I have exactly that in mind. For my situation (Family House with 4 Persons, around 10KWh power comsumption a day) i would order 5 100W ECATs and combine them with an 5-10KWh LIFEPO4 Battery System. I didn´t calculate this exactly, just rough numbers.
Maybe we can create some group for discussing such setups as i guess there are more people who are not experts in this field like me.
@Wilfried do I assume right that based on your name you are from Germany like me ?
There are several existing companies that provide Power Walls or the equivalent. Essentially accepting Solar Panel power, when it is available, and charging or discharging battery systems that handle inductive loads and peak demands. Consider a SKLep unit or units that drive such a system. The SKLep unit would only need to power the AVERAGE load, while the battery system would provide power all the time, handling peak power and charging when in the low demand times.
This would reduce the number and the cost of SKLep units. Excess SKLep generate power (when the batteries are full) could be sold back to the electrical grid.
CC:
Anxiety and fear are the most noxious issues; in this situations the difference between successful and ridiculous depend on many factors, some of which still unknown at this initial stage. Fortunately, I have a great Team, but if something will go wrong, I will be the sole responsible.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I suppose the immense fatigue you are making in preparation of the ECAT in the EV is drawing a lot of energy from you: how is your health ?
Good luck,
CC
Dear Dr. Rossi
Here’s a link to Nissan selling used EV batteries as power packs:
Nissan Starts Selling Portable Power Source With Old Leaf EV Batteries (msn.com)
Add some ECATs and you’ve got a continuous portable power supply with high peak power capability. This is a consumer product, useable in the home and out in the wild.
Why do I think this is important? ……….. You need a market niche that will have fast consumer acceptance and use up your early small production capacity to kick start your business. EV’s are not going to do this for you since automotive industry takes at least two years to properly validate a new technology for cars.
Why do I say small production capacity?………….., after all a million 100W ECATS per year sounds pretty big, right? According to
Energy Production and Consumption – Our World in Data https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption
the world used 2000 TWh more every year on average for 2012 to 2022, which is greater than 2e12 watts 24/7/365 . So if the ECAT were to supply just the increase in demand every year, and had no impact of the huge installed energy infrastructure, at 100W full time for a year for the 100W ECAT, this means 2e10 ECATs, which is 20,000 million. You need to increase production to 200 million 100W equivalents per year to reach even 1% of the world’s yearly increase in demand. This is tens of billions of dollars factory costs.
PS I would appreciate someone confirming my arithmetic.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Basically the data sheets published in http://www.ecat.com are still valid, but dimensions and weight can change for particular applications,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
1. What is the current dimensions and weight of the 100W SKLep SSM unit?
2. Same question for the 10W unit?
3. Will any other output levels from a single unit be made available (e.g., a 1 kW unit)?
Dr Rossi,
unfortunately more of this kind of fraud attempts will happen, I am afraid. You made well to publish this warning, to defend the public; what do you suggest us to do when we receive or find analogous proposals or introductions ?
DEAR READERS:
IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION ABOUT A FRAUD ON COURSE: IT HAS BEEN SET UP A WEBSITE http://www.ecat.tech
THAT SAYS THAT “MOST OF THE POSSIBLE MARKETS OF THE ECAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY LICENSED”, TOGETHER WITH OTHER INFORMATION TOTALLY FALSE.
ATTENTION: THIS WEBSITE IS NOT OF OURS, IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL, AND ALL THE COMMERCIAL INFORMATION PUBLISHED IN IT ABOUT LEONARDO CORPORATION AND THE ECAT ARE FALSE.
ATTENTION: IF YOU RECEIVE ANY PROPOSAL OR OFFER FROM THIS WEBSITE AND ITS CONNECTIONS RELATED TO OUR PRODUCTS OR LICENSES, DO NOT PAY ANY SUM, BECAUSE THESE PERSONS ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT AUTHORIZED TO DEAL IN ANY WAY WITH ANY OF OUR PRODUCTS OR LICENCES.
WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THE ISSUE TO OUR ATTORNEYS.
DR ANDREA ROSSI, CEO
LEONARDO CORPORATION
Dear Andrea,
the Youtube and Twitch streamings I watched today on http://www.ecat.com
are giving evidence that the 10 W Ecat SKLep SSM is keeping turned on the lamp 174 days since, 24 hours per day, without interruptions and without any other power source: 174 days…and counting !
Cheers
Weleda
Dear Dr. Rossi
Please share with us your estimate of the impact of the EV test on timing of reaching your goal of 100 million W worth of ECAT orders. Are you highly optimistic that after this demonstration you will meet your goal within a month or two?
If you are not highly optimistic, what is your “Plan B”?
Can you give any insight on why the warranty is for 3 years:
1. Is it the minimum period of time you believe that will make the SKLep SSM economical in major markets?
2. Is it based the warranty of other products?
2a. If yes, which products?
3. Any other reason?
Anonymous:
Yes, if all the tests we are making will continue to be positive until the end of September; in contrary case, we will have to delay.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you wrote at the October event will be representatives of car producers.
Will there be also representatives of countries/ministries?
Best regards
R.Brand
Dear Andreas, Dear Readers,
it is very obvious that family homes will be a good application for E-Cats.
However, there is one technical detail that complicates the easy installation:
In many European countries, installations with hybrid 3-phase inverters prevail (e.g. in existing PV installations).
These 3-phase hybrid inverters have a fairly high starting voltage at the input (strings): 200 Volts at Solax, 180 Volts at GoodWe etc.
So it is necessary to connect 18 pieces of E-Cat in series in order to achieve the necessary starting voltage for the inverters: 18×12 V = 216 V
Since many houses will need less power than 1.8 kW (18 pcs of E-Cats), DC-to-DC Step-Up converters will be needed, and therein lies the problem. Common types can convert from 12 V to 24 V or 48 V or 56 V, which still causes complications.
Dear Dr. Rossi, may you advise readers here on a suitable model of a DC-to-DC converter, where the output voltage would be higher than 200 V or another suitable solution how to connect less than 18 pcs of E-Cats into 3-phase hybrid inverter with starting voltage 200 V?
And one more question, since there will be a lot of interested parties for installations in family homes and industries, do you have a supplier that will sell cables where one end will have connectors suitable for E-Cat and the other end of the cable will have a standard MC4 connector for inverters?
This would make practical marketing and installations much easier.
Have A Nice Day
J. Darrell
@Andreas
I have already installed such a system at my home, currently with two solar panels. The system is registered as a balcony power plant with battery storage.
As soon as the ecats are available, I will replace the solar panels. The system is running, but there are still some questions.
If you want to contact me, please have a look at preschel.eu/impressum
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Yet another SKLep SSM application
SpaceX is developing the Starship, which consists of a Starship and a Heavy Booster. Takeoff propellant mass is rated at 1,200 Metric Tonnes. About 78% of the propellant mass is LOX — Liquid Oxygen.
Oxygen can be obtained from the air. So, local production would be possible for LOX. On the other hand, Liquid Methane would likely continue to be trucked to the launch site and stored there.
Truck transportation will be reduced as only the Liquid Methane will need to be transported which is about 22% of the entire propellant requirement.
Commercial LOX produces require about 3.6 MW-hrs of electrical energy to produce one Metric Tonne of LOX.
If we assume a production launch schedule on one Starship every 24 hours from a single site, then the LOX production locally (for one Starship launch) would require:
1,200 Metric Tonnes * 0.78% * 3.6 MW-hrs/Metric Tonne or about 140 MW of electrical power per 24-hour period.
Likewise, if we assume each Starship will have a 100 Metric Tonne payload and the 1 million Metric Tonnes are required to be transported to Mars, and further assuming a 3-year interval between the closest approaches of Earth and Mars (unmanned Starships don’t care long it takes to travel to Mars from the Earth), a total of 10,000 launches will be required over a three-year period, or about 10 launches per day.
With this assumption, then 10 such 140MW power systems would be required. This is just for LOX production needs. This requirement alone would meet your goal of 1 million 100W SKLep units.
This does not say that SpaceX will need to manufacture 10,000 Starship and Heavy Booster units. In situ fuel production is envisioned on Mars and, if this happens, then some Starships will return to Earth. The Heavy Boosters are reusable, so a fewer number of Boosters will be required as they never leave the Earth. The Boosters will be limited by the number of flights they can safely perform.
Andreas,
Your conceptual system will work on your average daily consumption but you will likely need Grid power to handle peak power requirements. As I understand your proposed concept, the SKLep units provide power to the batteries on a continuous basis. So, 5 x 100W of SKLep units will deliver 500 Watts or 12 kW-hrs in a single day. The battery charging conversion efficiency is likely around 80%, so the net daily charging will be about 9.6 kW-hrs per day.
If your residence used AC power, then you will need units to convert the battery power to safe AC power. By safe power, I include the requirement to automatically detect a Grid power outage and the removal of power going to the grid. This is to keep safe Grid maintenance people working on the Grid system. The battery-to-AC conversion system must be sized to handle peak and inductive AC loads (air conditions, motors, etc.).
My suggestion to AR was to replace the solar panel power that would usually feed such a battery system with SKLep provided power as the battery system would be normally required to perform the necessary safety functions mentioned above.
@Steven Nicholes Karels
Regarding your suggestion for combining the ECAT with a battery system, I have exactly that in mind. For my situation (Family House with 4 Persons, around 10KWh power comsumption a day) i would order 5 100W ECATs and combine them with an 5-10KWh LIFEPO4 Battery System. I didn´t calculate this exactly, just rough numbers.
Maybe we can create some group for discussing such setups as i guess there are more people who are not experts in this field like me.
@Wilfried do I assume right that based on your name you are from Germany like me ?
Best regards,
Andreas
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Yes, and thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
Does your team do Non-Destructive
Testing?
https://youtu.be/KxIoHKdXPaw?si=CLOaRBe0or2nesf_
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea Rossi,
There are several existing companies that provide Power Walls or the equivalent. Essentially accepting Solar Panel power, when it is available, and charging or discharging battery systems that handle inductive loads and peak demands. Consider a SKLep unit or units that drive such a system. The SKLep unit would only need to power the AVERAGE load, while the battery system would provide power all the time, handling peak power and charging when in the low demand times.
This would reduce the number and the cost of SKLep units. Excess SKLep generate power (when the batteries are full) could be sold back to the electrical grid.
Thoughts?
CC:
Anxiety and fear are the most noxious issues; in this situations the difference between successful and ridiculous depend on many factors, some of which still unknown at this initial stage. Fortunately, I have a great Team, but if something will go wrong, I will be the sole responsible.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mario:
Depends on the Voltage,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Anonymous:
The probability that we will not delay are about 80% based on the tests so far,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Good morning Dr Rossi
How much is the maximum output current of a 100wSKLep SSM ? (best resistive optimum load)
Thank you : Mario
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I suppose the immense fatigue you are making in preparation of the ECAT in the EV is drawing a lot of energy from you: how is your health ?
Good luck,
CC
Should you give a percentage of probability that the test of the Ecat powered EV will not be delayed, how much ?
DrLG:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@DrLarryG:
This is exactly why pre-ordering is so important. If the E-CAT is successful, private individuals will not be able to get any for years.
Best Regards
Wilfried
Dear Dr. Rossi
Here’s a link to Nissan selling used EV batteries as power packs:
Nissan Starts Selling Portable Power Source With Old Leaf EV Batteries (msn.com)
Add some ECATs and you’ve got a continuous portable power supply with high peak power capability. This is a consumer product, useable in the home and out in the wild.
Why do I think this is important? ……….. You need a market niche that will have fast consumer acceptance and use up your early small production capacity to kick start your business. EV’s are not going to do this for you since automotive industry takes at least two years to properly validate a new technology for cars.
Why do I say small production capacity?………….., after all a million 100W ECATS per year sounds pretty big, right? According to
Energy Production and Consumption – Our World in Data https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption
the world used 2000 TWh more every year on average for 2012 to 2022, which is greater than 2e12 watts 24/7/365 . So if the ECAT were to supply just the increase in demand every year, and had no impact of the huge installed energy infrastructure, at 100W full time for a year for the 100W ECAT, this means 2e10 ECATs, which is 20,000 million. You need to increase production to 200 million 100W equivalents per year to reach even 1% of the world’s yearly increase in demand. This is tens of billions of dollars factory costs.
PS I would appreciate someone confirming my arithmetic.
Best Regards
LarryG
Anonymous:
1- well
2- yes, so far
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gianluca:
No
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Basically the data sheets published in http://www.ecat.com are still valid, but dimensions and weight can change for particular applications,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam,
Thank you for your two links,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ernest Sternglass author
of before the Big Bang
meets Albert Eisenstein.
https://youtu.be/WfMZJmj1UjE?si=XPQtWbkxY_Sa_cCh
Hello DR Rossi
This video discusses
the Ether Model.
https://youtu.be/NQKoFvVsm_o?si=M1wntfY27hE69Y13
Regards
Sam
Dear Andrea Rossi,
1. What is the current dimensions and weight of the 100W SKLep SSM unit?
2. Same question for the 10W unit?
3. Will any other output levels from a single unit be made available (e.g., a 1 kW unit)?
Dear A.R.
for your EV CAR event in Italy you rely on professional pilots?
How is going so far the preparation of the Ecat powered EV ?
Has the term of second half of October been confirmed ?
CC:
before paying a single cent, contact us asking due information, sending an email here:
info@leonardocorp1996.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
unfortunately more of this kind of fraud attempts will happen, I am afraid. You made well to publish this warning, to defend the public; what do you suggest us to do when we receive or find analogous proposals or introductions ?
DEAR READERS:
IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION ABOUT A FRAUD ON COURSE: IT HAS BEEN SET UP A WEBSITE
http://www.ecat.tech
THAT SAYS THAT “MOST OF THE POSSIBLE MARKETS OF THE ECAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY LICENSED”, TOGETHER WITH OTHER INFORMATION TOTALLY FALSE.
ATTENTION: THIS WEBSITE IS NOT OF OURS, IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL, AND ALL THE COMMERCIAL INFORMATION PUBLISHED IN IT ABOUT LEONARDO CORPORATION AND THE ECAT ARE FALSE.
ATTENTION: IF YOU RECEIVE ANY PROPOSAL OR OFFER FROM THIS WEBSITE AND ITS CONNECTIONS RELATED TO OUR PRODUCTS OR LICENSES, DO NOT PAY ANY SUM, BECAUSE THESE PERSONS ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT AUTHORIZED TO DEAL IN ANY WAY WITH ANY OF OUR PRODUCTS OR LICENCES.
WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THE ISSUE TO OUR ATTORNEYS.
DR ANDREA ROSSI, CEO
LEONARDO CORPORATION
Rudy:
1. today
2- well
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Weleda:
Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rod Carbuncal:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello Dr Rossi,
Have you seen this article about harvesting energy from brownian motion ?
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/scientists-manage-to-harvest-energy-from-ripples-in-graphene
Dear Andrea,
the Youtube and Twitch streamings I watched today on
http://www.ecat.com
are giving evidence that the 10 W Ecat SKLep SSM is keeping turned on the lamp 174 days since, 24 hours per day, without interruptions and without any other power source: 174 days…and counting !
Cheers
Weleda
Dr Rossi,
When has been made the last test with the Ecat to power the EV ?
How has it gone ?
Best,
Rudy
Sam:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Udi Somer:
It is based on regular guarantees in the same merchandising cathegory ( Electric Generators, or GENSETS ),
Warm Regards,
A.R.
DrLG:
It is impossible to know, but we hope so,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
To all our Readers of the USA:
Our Team wishes you all Happy Labor Day Weekend !
Dear Dr. Rossi
Please share with us your estimate of the impact of the EV test on timing of reaching your goal of 100 million W worth of ECAT orders. Are you highly optimistic that after this demonstration you will meet your goal within a month or two?
If you are not highly optimistic, what is your “Plan B”?
Best Regards
LarryG
Dear Dr. Rossi,
Can you give any insight on why the warranty is for 3 years:
1. Is it the minimum period of time you believe that will make the SKLep SSM economical in major markets?
2. Is it based the warranty of other products?
2a. If yes, which products?
3. Any other reason?
Thank you for your work and replies,
Udi Shomer
Hello DR Rossi
In this Video Nikola Tesla assistant
talks about work in the 1880s.
https://youtu.be/ieT8SLw33ZY?si=vi7sMiaXyVtiF1bI
Regards
Sam
Anonymous:
Yes, if all the tests we are making will continue to be positive until the end of September; in contrary case, we will have to delay.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
R. Brand:
I don’t know, but don’t thik so.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mladen Matula:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jean Paul Renoir:
Correct,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Is it confirmed that the Ecat powered EV test will be performed during the second half of October ?
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you wrote at the October event will be representatives of car producers.
Will there be also representatives of countries/ministries?
Best regards
R.Brand
Dear Mr Andrea,
Ia there a switch to turn on and off the Ecat when I want, as it is in all normal appliances ?
Mladen Matula