United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Joachim

    Hello Dr Rossi,
    I pre-ordered an ecat a long time ago.
    If I now place a second order, but don’t want it to be an increase of the first order in order to postpone the money expenditure – i.e. the second order is placed further down in the delivery sequence: would that be possible? How should I make a note of this in the second order so that I don’t receive everything with the old order?
    Kind regards
    Joachim

  • Tom Kaminski

    You have stated that the orientation of the ecat must be as shown in the photo on your site. I am not sure which photo you are referring to. In the paper “E-Cat Power – The Impossible Made Possible”, page 12, the ecat unit (Q1: is it 10 W?) is shown standing on edge, like a wheel, not flat, like a hockey puck on ice.

    Q1: Is the disk like device shown on page 12 a 10W unit?
    Q2: Is this the orientation you require for proper operation?
    Q3: If this unit was used in a mobile application, how much of a tilt could the vehicle have and still maintain operation?

  • Andrea Rossi

    /P:
    1. yes, price to be defined depending on the situation
    2. same as in 1
    I suggest you to send a pre-order by http://www.ecatorders.com and define the customization and the final price when we contact you to turn the pre-order into a regular order,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • /P

    Dear Mr Rossi,
    I want to place an order for 3kW but have two questions:
    1. Can I order an ECAT SKLep NGU of 3kW that delivers a high voltage (eg 700VDC) that is suitable for a 3 phase inverter used for solar cells?
    2. Can Leonardo Corporation supply a complete product with 3kW together with a suitable 3-phase inverter for installation (by a professional electrician) in a house connected to the public electricity grid.
    Sincerly
    /P

  • WaltC

    Dear Readers,

    I wanted to expand, somewhat, on the grid-down vulnerabilities that I mentioned briefly yesterday. In a nutshell, in it’s current implementation, the national power grid has vulnerabilities that could, in certain circumstances (extreme solar flares, sabotage, cyberwarfare…), lead to a national power outage that lasted for weeks or months. Part of that risk has to do with having our power generators very distant from electricity consumers. (Which is the basis for my interest in ECat Power Generation.)

    If you haven’t seen it, there’s a mind-bending documentary on the subject:

    Google/Bing search for the video “Grid Down Power Up”, narrated by Dennis Quaid. You want the 1 hour, 5 minute (approx.) version.

    Food for thought.

    Best Wishes,
    Walt C.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Joachim:
    1- yes
    2- no, but the section must sustain the increase of A, if it was not redundant, to avoid the Joule effect
    3- yes
    4- yes, as an optional
    5- yes, as an optional
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Joachim

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    you answered to Wilfried that it is possible to temporarily connect a 3 KW with a 1 KW ecat to operate with 4 KW.
    1. Will there be connections at the ecat to do this?
    2. Are there special cables needed?
    3. Or is an electrician needed to do this?

    I have ordered a 1 KW ecat.
    4. Can i chose to have a 230 Volt ac-socket AND a dc 12 volt socket (like it is used in cars) at the same time?
    5. And if yes to 4.: Can i connect power consumers to both sockets at the same time, does it work?
    Best regards
    Joachim

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gregory Daigle:
    1- yes
    2- it depends on the specific situation
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Dear Andrea,

    In answer to Wilfried’s question about whether generator blocks from 1 kW must stand upright, or can they also be operated tilted to either side, you replied, “they must stand upright”.

    1) Does that also apply to the 10W and 100W versions?
    2) What happens to blocks should they tilt somewhat during operation?

    Warm regards,
    Greg

  • Andrea Rossi

    Praos:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Wilfried:
    a- must stand upright
    b- it is possible, but at a price for custom execution
    c- yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Brice:
    Thank you for your suggestion,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Camillo:
    I will notify that date when we will know exactly when we will start delivering,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof. Neri Accornero:
    Yes, I can confirm that increase.
    Thank you for your support,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Gian Luca

    Koen Vandewalle

    if you have a photovoltaic system, you will most likely have (normally) two strings of similar power. You will then have, I think, a storage battery. I have a system like that (6 kW nominal) and I imagine I will do this: I disconnect a 3 kW string and connect my next NGU (3 Kw). The battery (LG 9.8 kW) will always be charged, thanks to the Solis inverter and my loads protected from voltage fluctuations by the battery’s BMS. Tell me if I’m reasoning wrong. Thanks

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Koen Vandewalle,

    Apparently, your concerns deal with the alleged time delay the NGU unit has to a sudden increase in demand or power in relation to supply power to the Grid?

    I suggest the solution is a hybrid solar inverter where the solar power input is replaced by power generated by NGU units. This solar inverter can come with large capacity batteries that can handle sudden increases in Gird demand. The NGU unit(s) slowly and continuously charge the battery unit and the battery unit handles changes in the demand from the Grid.

  • Dear Andrea
    The new availability of medium power ECAT bookings (from 1 to 5 kW) should quickly increase bookings because the powers satisfy the majority of bloggers who have followed you so far, can you already confirm this increase?
    However, even the lower powers of 10 and 100 W have an infinite market for all applications that require small rechargeable or non-rechargeable batteries; from toys to small DIY hobby tools, to cell phones, electric kitchen tools, electric razors and much more. For these low level powers it is also possible using supercapacitors instead of batteries for at least these reasons: they withstand a number of charge and discharge cycles 100 times higher than any current battery, they charge in seconds and without BMS, they can provide significant energy pulses immediately, and they weigh very little. Furthermore, also in terms of availability and disposal, they are much less “invasive” than batteries, the materials are mainly carbon (graphene) and synthetic polymers (polyethylene). For now, they cost a little more than batteries due to the smaller capacity, but the ECAT takes care of this because it continues to keep them charged.
    In short, Mallory must tremble and the Earth… smile.
    Neri

  • Camillo

    One question everyone has but no one seems to dare ask is what is the most likely estimated shipping date of the NGUs that were ordered first?
    1) by the end of the year
    2) in the middle of next year
    3) In the first months of 2026
    greetings and best wishes!

  • Brice

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    Just an interesting idea.

    What is crucial to determine the power rating of an Ecat for a particular appliance is the maximum peak power of that appliance. Many domestic appliances often have a peak power at start-up that is 2-3 times higher than the nominal power. I am thinking of air conditioners, heat pumps, refrigerators (without inverter technology), drills, washing machines, compressors, microwaves, high-pressure cleaners, saws. This often makes the cost far too high to equip them with Ecats.

    My proposal is therefore to equip the Ecat with a circuit that measures power consumption and switches on only when consumption is within the rated power. So long as a device needs its peak power it briefly uses mains power. This suddenly puts many more appliances in reach to equip with Ecats. You will sell a lot more Ecats, not less.

    What is your opinion?

    With kind regards,

    Brice

  • Wilfried

    Dear Andrea,

    I have questions about the 3 kW E-Cat, or the other blocks from 1 kW:

    a) Do these blocks have to stand upright, or can they also be operated tilted to either side?
    b) Do you also offer other designs on request? I would like to have the 3 kW E-CAT in as flat a design as possible, as a rectangle or square, or how flat is possible?
    c) Is it possible, for example, to temporarily connect a 1 kW E-Cat and a 3 kW E-Cat in parallel in order to temporarily achieve higher charging currents? Of course, if both have the same voltage.

    Best Regards
    Wilfried

  • Dear Dr Rossi,
    It seems to me that the most profitable application of your device is in ship propulsion, for it is almost ideally suited for their needs. (I have first and foremost ocean-going vessels in mind.) It’s based on following considerations.
    1. Ships need a constant and incessant power, and your device, not spending any fuel, incur only fixed costs.
    2. As being virtually maintenance-free, they could reduce crew.
    3. No need of bullky engine room, for they could fill every nook and cranny.
    4. Less weight when compared to other powerplants, even more so when the fuel is taken into account.
    5. Unprecedented reliability, due to electrification and redundancy.
    6. Less detrimental noise and vibrations.
    What holds for surface ship, holds even more for submarines. You device could shift naval balances virtually overnight by converting small green-water boats into blue-water ones, that due to their small size are even better than hunter-killer nuclear monsters.

  • Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • WaltC

    Dr. Rossi,
    Because of AI (etc.), the US is building a lot more server farms and with those server farms comes increased need for highly reliable power sources. Some server farms utilize Energy Server Farms (large arrays of Energy Generators), either for backup or for primary power (depending on the cost trade-off).

    So, going back to the Volumetric Power Density (VPD) number, I wanted to be able to visualize how large an ECat-based Energy Server might be (based just on the ECat’s VPD and not adding in space for Power Inverters, etc.).

    A couple of examples:

    – A 1 ft Cube of ECats — 7.55 kW
    – A Refrigerator sized Array of ECats — 340 kW
    – An 8’x4.2’x4′ sized Array of ECats — 1015 kW

    Size-wise, the ECats are in the right ballpark to be in the Energy-server business.

    Price-wise, I believe others have calculated that you’re in the right ballpark to act as a primary power source also.

    In my opinion, the Distributed Power Server Business is a multibillion dollar business just waiting for a proper solution– 1) Because it’s green. 2) Because it doesn’t rely on major upgrades to the regional power grid. 3) Because it’s cost competitive. 4) Because it mitigates risk against a large host of grid-down threats. 5) Because it remains available when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.

    Best Wishes,
    WaltC

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear JONP readers,

    Many enthusiasts among you are busy conceptualizing and developing network-connected or standalone configurations.

    What I understand is that the ECAT SKLEP NGU behaves like an (eternally full) battery with a variable internal resistance, which can shift within one second from maximum to minimum resistance.

    In my opinion, a standalone configuration lacks a buffer, and when my partner plugs in her vacuum cleaner, there will be a brief voltage drop, which my computer and the house lights might not handle well.

    This phenomenon inclines me towards a grid-connected configuration. On the other hand, I can imagine that grid operators and stakeholders in the current group of electricity providers would consider the ECAT SKLEP NGU as their arch-enemy and would therefore do everything through political or regulatory bodies to impose a ban. I do not think conventional energy providers have bid for licenses for the ECAT technology. Otherwise, we would probably already see a billion ECAT orders.

    Therefore, I do not expect that we will easily be able to build an officially grid-connected installation.

    For now, in Belgium, it is still prohibited to install plug-in solar panel kits that are simply connected through an outlet. This regulation will change next year, but the allowable capacity for such a connection remains quite limited.

    Now, the question: Is anyone working on a system that can operate fully offline, where the ECAT continuously runs at full capacity via a dissipation resistor (in a water storage tank), and when additional load is connected, this resistor immediately adjusts proportionally so that the ECAT continues to run at full power without causing a voltage drop first? The temperature of the buffer tank could be controlled through series-parallel connections with a rational number of ECAT devices that are either simultaneously activated or on standby. It seems plausible to me that when switching on a larger device — with significant load — the system involving the ECAT should first be informed that several kilowatts of additional load will be connected, and we do not want a voltage drop.

    Or is there already an off-the-shelf solution for this?

    Best regards,

    Koen

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    The use of NGU technology for Grid electrical generation has previously been discussed. That technology can a provide constant level of electrical power, often referred to a BaseLoad.

    The Grid system typically has higher than average power demands during the daytime and lower than average power demands during nighttime.

    A concept has been published to utilize the stored energy in Electric Vehicles (EVs) battery systems to facilitate providing power to the Grid and storing Grid power.

    Consider charging stations that could be bi-directional.

    Most EVs have an onboard storage capacity of 60 to 75 kW-hrs. Only a small fraction is used in a daily commute, say, around 10 kW-hrs per day or 5 kW-hr per one-way commute trip.

    If bi-directional chargers were available at the residence and the workplace, then excess stored electrical energy could be removed from the EV during daylight hours and returned during the night. This would reduce the necessity of building large battery storage sites for supplementing the Grid.

    If properly implemented, the EV owner would a paid for energy supplied to the Grid. Conceptually, the EV owner would allow the Grid to siphon off a certain limited portion of the EV battery system’s capacity, say, 95% to 20%, and then permit not more. The residential system would need to be sized to provide sufficient power during the evening to completely recharge the EV battery system.

    If a bi-directional residential charging was not available but it was available at the workplace, then a 3-kW onboard NGU could provide 60 to 72 kW-hrs of energy on a daily basis.

    Thoughts?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Hindrik:
    Yes, there will be a manual. Anyway I strongly suggest the connections to be always made by certified contractors, because electricity can be deadly dangerous,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ambrogio:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Wilfried:
    Any Voltage is configurable,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Stephen:
    1. yes
    2. see below:
    A- depends on the situation
    B- no
    C- see A
    D- see A
    E- see A
    F- see A
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Wilfried

    Dear Andrea,

    at what dc voltages will the 2 kW E-Cat be available?
    a) 12 Vdc
    b) 24 Vdc
    c) 48 Vdc
    d) configurable between 12 Vdc and ??

    Best regards
    Wilfried

  • Ambrogio

    Dr Rossi,
    Will the pre-orders arrived from areas wherein you signed license agreements be dealt with by the licensees ?
    Thank you if you can answer,
    Best
    Ambrogio

  • Stephen

    Dear Andrea Rossi

    Could you also indicate the weights of the larger units?

    My apologies if it’s already mentioned elsewhere.

    A few other questions:

    1. Is it possible for the user to combine units if different sizes if needed?
    2. In case of an internal failure of one cell for example:
    A) will the device keep on working at lower maximum current?
    B) will the device keep on working at lower voltage?
    C) will the device stop working?
    D) does the device include its own internal redundancy to cope with this?
    E) would the device need to be sent back for repair?
    F) is there a warning light or similar indicating the device health status
    I assume though the reliability is such that this should not happen very often.

    I think the production of these larger assemblies is a very good one; they are clearly very popular already.

    Thanks Stephen

  • Hindrik

    Hello dr. Rossi.

    When the NGU’s are delivered will there be an written explanation how to connect them. For example as extend for solar panels.
    I am very curious how they will work.
    Greetings
    Hindrik

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dan Galburt:
    1- We set the Voltage based on the request of the Client; if it will be necessary a step up, or a step down, or an inverter, these will be supplied by us as optionals or bought directly by the
    Clients
    2- No: as I always said, the Voltage will be fixed, the Amperage will depend on the energy drawn by the load, as it happens in all the common generators
    3- See point 2
    5- See point 2
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Patrick:
    Thje connectors will be adapted to the local standards,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    I tink our VPD is enough competitive as it is, so far,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    It will be necessary to extend the manufacturing licenses in proportion to the actual growth of the demand,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    I agree,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Calle H:
    Please see the photo on http://www.ecat.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Calle H

    Dear Dr. Rossi,
    On the 12V 10W NGU cylinder are the two DC connectors on the periphery of the cylinder? or on the flat side with both connectors on the same side? or one connector on each side?
    Kind regards,
    Calle H

  • Prof

    Dr Rossi,
    Yet another update of the stats found today in the paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    Papers Total Readings : 162 000, more than 16 millions publications on Researchgate, as well as the Recommendations (11968) and Research Interest Score (3099); 148600 Total Readings only for the paper Ecat SK and Long Range Particle Interactions.
    And counting !
    Definitely, the Latina test made the stats rocketing
    Prof

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    With the rise of AI, and the increase in demand for electrical power, and the requirement for non-fossil fuel powered electrical generation, technologies like eCat are essential.

    Once you reach the threshold of 1 million 100W units (or equivalent), how rapidly can you increase? Keep in mind the annual amount of electrical power produced by fossil fuel is greater than 16,000 TW-hrs.

  • WaltC

    Dr. Rossi,
    I agree with LarryG that Volumetric Power Density is an important metric to have (or calculate), for evaluation purposes in certain applications (such as EVs) and to compare with other technologies.

    For instance, by my calculations:
    – 10W ECat– 118 W/Liter
    – 1kW ECat– 267 W/Liter
    – Lithium Batteries– 300 to 700 W/Liter

    By the way– if my 1kW number is right, I’m super impressed! Outstanding work, by you & your team!

    Best Wishes,
    WaltC

  • Dan Galburt

    Dear Doctor Rossi,

    I have been reviewing the NGU data sheet and I have a few questions.

    The data sheet says that the E-Cat output voltage must between 1 to 12V DC when it is attached to a load and operating.

    Questions
    1) Is there a manual method for setting the E-Cat voltage? (Y/N)
    2) Does the E-Cat automatically measure the load characteristics and computes an output voltage setting that would result in 10 watts of energy being fed into the load? (Y/N)
    3) If the computed voltage setting is 12 volts, the E-Cat output voltage is set to 12V and a reduced about of power is fed to the load? (Y/N)
    5) If the computed voltage setting is >12 volts, then the E-Cat is shut off? (Y/N)

    Best Regards,
    Dan Galburt

  • Patrick

    Dear Andrea,
    The option to buy pre-assembled kW generators is great. I’m upgrading my order. I’m looking at the order form and specs and I have two questions:
    – what kind of plug/terminals/wires will the DC generator come with, that I can connect my load to?
    – what kind of plug/terminals/wires will the AC generator come with, that I can connect my load to?
    I could not find that information in the data sheet.
    Best regards,
    Patrick

  • Andrea Rossi

    LarryG:
    The updated dimensions are in the datasheet here: http://www.ecat.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    The Ecat NGU has a top and a bottom: see the photo on http://www.ecat.com
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Anrea Rossi,

    A person asked “Just another quick question about the Ecat generators, can they be installed in any orientation e.g have the unit laying down or upside down?”

    And you responded “No”.

    Can you please clarify if the eCat is restricted in mounting orientation?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Phil Wilson:
    The Voltage of the Ecat, once set up, must be constant, with the usual tolerances, otherwise the Ecat stops; the max power is the one indicated for the specific assembly; if the power demand is superior the Ecat stops. As I said, the integral of the A in function of V depends on the energy ( Wh/h ) drawn by the load.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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