United States Patent US 9,115,913 B1

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  • Maico

    Dear Dr Rossi,

    More and more often on JONP, I see questions addressed to you about the types of loads that the E-Cat is able to “manage”.

    Regarding this “topic” I believe I can provide some very important indications.

    Thanks to the integration and demo of the E-Cat EV on my Twizy, I had the opportunity to use, under its control, on September 6 and 7, 2024, a 3kW E-Cat.

    Much has been said and written about the demonstration at the Latina racetrack on September 27, 2024, as has also been done about the test on the roller bench on September 7, 2024 (8 hours of testing at the same power used in the Latina demonstration of the E-Cat EV).
    Much less has been written/said about the tests carried out by Us on September 6, 2024 in my Box, while we “integrated” the E-Cat into my Twizy to carry out, the following day, the test on the roller bench (in those 2 days the Ecat always remained under my “control/sight”, and on the night of September 6, at the end of the joint activity, in preparation for the test on the “rollers”, it remained closed in my box inside the Twizy).
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-q3hEJkCt8xAGF1_pUKuPB2Mg_nAOTvf&usp=drive_fs

    Before describing in detail what was done on September 6, 2024, I would like to make a premise:

    1) before we met for the “integration”, I already knew that I would be the “certifier” of the Latina Demonstration. The apks and hw that I created to monitor and manage the output from the E-Cat, the input in the Twizy and its consumption as well as that of Twizy #2 were created by me precisely for this purpose and that is to be able to recover and provide objective, measured and irrefutable data on the 2 Twizys.

    2) before we met I knew that I could NOT look inside the E-Cat BOX, nor take specific measurements of any kind.

    Since “our” first official contact (my written proposal to use my Twizy for the demonstration of the E-Cat EV as I would have been able to integrate the E-Cat into the “Auto system” of my Twizy thanks to my vertical skills on the Twizy and Electrical/Electronic/Sw Development skills that I have!!!), my only goal was the same as I imagine all the people who have been following you for years and therefore follow the evolution of your E-Cat have: And that is to understand if the E-Cat NGU does what it promises.

    I knew that the demo of the E-Cat Ev would be for me the “unique” opportunity to “verify” some of the “characteristics/peculiarities” of the E-Cat… I just had to create “the right context” to be able to do some “extra tests” in addition to those previously planned with you for the “integration”, and in case of success, for the demo in Latina.

    I therefore organized myself to AUTONOMOUSLY REALIZE, and therefore have it at my disposal the day before the test on the roller bench (September 6, 2024), everything necessary and in plug & play format (so as to waste as little time as possible) to do these FURTHER tests that I had in mind.

    When we met, I would have proposed these ideas of mine on “additional tests” with the hope that these would be accepted by you 🙂

    AND ACTUALLY SO IT WAS!!! 😉

    After having verified that the many weeks of “separated” work (Yours, Your Team and Mine) dedicated to the E-Cat EV project, had given the expected results (Your E-Cat, thanks to my Electronics, was perfectly integrated into the “Twizy system” and therefore the next day we could have done the tests on the roller bench), in a very collaborative and “far-sighted” way You gave me “the consent and the opportunity” to carry out the tests that I described to you that same day, with the Instrumentation and the Environment that I had very “meticulously” prepared ;).

    Here is what I had prepared/made/rented:

    1) A heating resistor system with “running water” cooling to verify that the E-Cat could be used as a “heating source” (in my box there is a sink with a water tap and a drain for draining water on the floor)
    2) A trolley, therefore transportable, called E-Cat WallBox, completely made by me and completely controllable Wireless in power that taking DC input from the E-Cat could recharge, without any problem, a Full Electric Car (BEV) according to the T2 standard (Type 2) and at the same time was able to provide AC 220/110 50/60hz electrical power, without any problem, to various types of load (resistive, inductive etc)
    3) Rented a BEV Electric Car and specifically a Volkswagen E-Up to use “as a Load” for the E-Cat WallBOX
    4) A 500w power drill and a 2Kw fan heater to verify that the E-Cat WallBox interconnected to the E-Cat, with its additional 220/110V AC output was able to drive, without any problem, total powers of that type and that is resistive/inductive loads.

    I take advantage of this “post” of mine to thank you, DR. Rossi, for giving me the opportunity to do under your supervision this “further type of tests”, ALL OF WHICH HAVE GAVE POSITIVE RESULTS.

    In my previous messages, here and on ECW I said that on September 6, 2024 I took “similar” powers from the E-Cat to those of the E-Cat EV demo for 2 hours (which added to the 8 hours of the test on the roller benches make 10 hours of “withdrawal” energy from the E-Cat to the powers of the demo, with the E-Cat always under my control/sight).
    The 2 hours of Energy withdrawal from the E-Cat are to be considered “effective”, while as Elapsed, all the tests carried out, which I will describe below, required just over 3 hours, obviously considering the times of set-up and execution of the various tests.

    Here is how the Test protocol was carried out.

    1) Through my Electronics (I remember that by pressing the button on the side of the box you can exclude all the “specificities and behaviors” necessary for the management and integration of/in the Twizy) which gives me total control of the Energy emitted by the E-Cat, including the quantity produced, we interconnected the E-Cat to the set of heating resistors that I made and inserted them into the metal container where the cooling water was made to flow and we powered them, via my control electronics, from the E-Cat. In about 1/2 hour of continuous tests, about 1.4kwh were consumed and therefore emitted by the E-Cat without any kind of problem.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=18H0RW5Dfmyv606nPDJ61ar95dIT9IlnY&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=15aII_yb65v980VgLruLq41fXSsd-Pv_l&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=15bQZhV9utoDAmvMT1_Ir1SeIuMLCp-ad&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZPCUWj5RVRKxs3KSwJBTBKCk77viVAjs&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FtaOpyYF-pp5YttysqPgx-8qEyosGJEW&usp=drive_fs
    So:
    DC test with resistive load concluded successfully

    2) Once this test was completed we interconnected the E-Cat to the E-Cat WallBox and with the latter we “recharged” the Volwagen E-UP for 1 hour, introducing about 2.7kwh (the E-Cat produced more, but in this case the “conversion” losses of the BEV Car’s on-board charger also intervene), without any kind of problem.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uDBdTKyhHNFrGnHB2XctaUhtrsNsA7Ou&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kFbWvNQMFNa9wy291PmI8F9K7pDyDrZO&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FX2bP6c3fQr41podG-9KfOURyVnwJ64y&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kJvn60OsdHxsvaUu73Lkn9BYQh-KOsGl&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1F9m8mFGWk_YQJ8GBaKqOW2O-NyG61GVY&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jW6XPuLhpvIR03y7gc1NKGDHWtIFkRRc&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hmhnwC4BoAMbvUNx0SFTl5Cuo_PBSG2v&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xaq0RT2Zwzpk829Oo-It8evZ_3N2tMfg&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EPGGKg5tHlWcQ_RiwlYJOqOBgOBjDnfc&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B6W25ZT_9zwWzgz_hhkSEUt2WrbAdznR&usp=drive_fs
    So:
    BEV Auto Charging Test Successfully Completed

    3) At this point we disconnected the T2 connection (type 2) from the Volwagen E-UP and connected an electrical power strip to the 220/50hz power supply output from the E-Cat WallBox to which both the Fan Heater and the Drill were connected and for 1/2 hour they were run at maximum power. The E-Cat produced approximately 1.2 kwh without any kind of problem.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1F9m8mFGWk_YQJ8GBaKqOW2O-NyG61GVY&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cD1bW5mYqd-amrE95BEx4GIFxAq4qi99&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xaq0RT2Zwzpk829Oo-It8evZ_3N2tMfg&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kaNSb-1bYQ_Zm53VqHhESOb6nPFm5BFc&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1URL4E4drFTZDqkw5JD7s9vpUJUAqFpYx&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Yc_M6coJ_BhfRAMuL-SNfpUrgX7ItAK&usp=drive_fs
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LKBomR-RXzHwZIrxMjwM4MFQD4ycVRkm&usp=drive_fs

    So:
    AC test with Inductive/Resistive loads also in this case concluded with Success.

    As mentioned, the “real” time of use of the E-Cat was 2 hours, while overall the tests described were done in 3 hours total considering the setup of the test benches and the execution of the tests themselves.

    This is why I have always said that I have seen an E-Cat, UNDER MY CONSTANT control, draw 10 hours of Energy at the power used in the Latina demo.
    2 hours on September 6th in my Box (elapsed 3 hours), with the instruments and components I made/used and 8 hours in the test on the Roller Bench to recharge the battery of the Twizy while it was on the Roller Bench (from this calculation I have deliberately neglected the approximately 15 minutes in which the E-Cat was used to charge, under the control of my Electronics, the battery of the Twizy in the static tests in my BOX to check if everything was working correctly before going to do, the next day, the tests on the Roller Bench)

    In all these hours of Checks and Tests, the “voltage” present at the ends of the E-Cat output has NEVER been “conventional” (I have already explained several times what I mean… it is certainly not a voltage coming from a Battery, nor from a power source known to me) and above all “in its average value” it has NEVER dropped in its Voltage value from the first minute of the start of the tests to the last minute after 10 hours of tests.

    I sincerely hope to have given those who follow the evolution of your E-Cat, “interesting” information on what your E-Cat can do… and that is practically Everything!!!!

    My direct experience says that it is so!!!

    In the 2 days (6-7 September 2024) that the E-Cat was under my control/sight, for our integration tests for the E-Cat EV and “NOT ONLY”, it produced such a quantity of Energy that any other “Fantastic” hypothesis can be excluded a priori…

    Impossible that a BOX of that size (E-Cat), after having generated more than 25kwh of energy, in about 10 hours of operation, presents at its terminals the same “Average voltage” that it had at the beginning of the Test!!!

    This is absolutely impossible unless the E-Cat BOX that I was able to “test” contains nothing but a 3Kw E-Cat array…..

    Thank you again Dr. Rossi for giving me the opportunity on that “historic 6th September” (at least for me) to verify in a completely INDEPENDENT manner what your E-Cat is capable of doing…..
    It took me a lot of time and quite a bit of money to build, without your knowledge, that “Test Equipment”. I couldn’t know how You “would take” the proposal of additional tests that I would have done on the day of our meeting and therefore I wasn’t sure that I could have used everything I had achieved, I had to take the risk and “proceed anyway”…. But instead, on September 6, after listening to my proposal, You immediately granted me permission to perform these additional tests 😉
    What can I say….. Immediately, I was convinced that You had “nothing to hide” from me, that You knew perfectly well that the E-Cat would be able to pass the “additional” tests that I had in mind and that I had explained to her in detail…. (not at all trivial tests!!!) And so it was……!!!

    Simply Fantastic!!!!!

    Regards

    Ciao Maico

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    For example, if we will close successfully the deal we have on course, we won’t need more demos before entering the market.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    You replied to Anonymous that you would show on YouTube the E-Cat powering a heater “if it is necessary”. What does this answer mean: can you explain under what circumstances it would not be necessary?

    Many thanks,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Greg Leonard:
    If you have 12 V and a load of 20 Ohms the A will be 0.6 and the energy drawn = Wh/h 12 x 0.6
    If you have 12 V and a load of 1 Ohm the A will be 12 and the energy = Wh/h 12 x 12
    For other values please use yourself the Ohm’s equation, and consider that to generate the Wh/h you need you must have an Ecat with a power with a value in W equal or superior to the peak value of the Wh/h you will consume.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    Orientation is not an issue. Acceleration is not an issue, obviously in common public and private mobility media. Vibration suggested less than 100 Hz.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Paul Roberts:
    I think that all the energy sources available must be reasonably integrated,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anonymous:
    If necessary
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Massimo:
    I do not know that item,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Hergen:
    Now we are under NDA
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Hergen

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    “deal with an important global organization” (Ambrogio). Are among your licensees companys, which are listed on a stock exchange? When they announce a deal with you their companies share prices should rise significantly.

    Thank you and kind regards,

    E. Hergen

  • Massimo

    Caro dott. Rossi,
    come è possibile collegare un pannello fotovoltaico da 400/500 W a una stazione Bluetti, o di altra marca, con batteria d’accumulo, sarà possibile collegare, al posto del pannello solare 4 e-cat da 100 W?
    Synopsis
    will be possible connect to a Bluetti, or another brand, instead of one or more solar panels e-cat with the same power?

  • Greg Leonard

    Dear AR
    Very pleased with your progress, and looking forward to my ‘pre-order’ turning up.
    Small technical question: Is there a minimum current for the eCat to start up?
    I expect to use a 20 Ohm resistor on a 12V eCat, and get 0.6 amps and 7.2 Watts
    Will the eCat start if I use a 1 M Ohm resistor?
    12 micro Amps and 144 micro Watts
    regards,
    Greg Leonard

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    I understand that you posted the NGU was sensitive to mounting orientation? Is the NGU affected by vibration and/or acceleration? If so, to what limits?

  • Anonymous

    Dr Rossi,
    You still think that will show on Youtube a test with the Ecat powering a heater within the end of this year ?

  • Paul Roberts

    Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
    which is your opinion about the return of the nuclear fission plants ?
    Paul

  • Andrea Rossi

    Ambrogio:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Ambrogio

    Dr Rossi,
    Did the Latina Renault Twizy race of September 27th start the evolution of a deal with an important global organization to help the manufacturing and diffusion worldwide the Ecat ?
    Thank you if you can answer,
    Ambrogio

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thank you for your insight and for the link,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    I know you prefer not to enter into political discussions, but there are going to be implications for energy policy with a new administration in the USA.

    Here is an article you might find interesting. It is written by a former chairman of the US Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-know-what-president-trump-s-energy-policy-will-be-i-used-to-run-his-energy-regulatory-agency/ar-AA1uuock?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    His point is that he believes the new Trump administration is going to be favorable to all types of energy sources, traditional and new, and will reduce regulatory barriers for all.

    So it might be a good climate in which to introduce E-Cat Power. And if you can get Elon Musk on your side, it will help even more, as he is going to be an influential
    advisor to Donald Trump.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jan Srajer:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jan Šrajer

    Mr.Rossi
    Your discovery is reminiscent of the discovery of magnetic induction in the sense in which it is used today. Therefore, it is clear that we are only at the beginning of using plasma. Once the E-cat reaches the public, it will arouse enormous interest not only from consumers but also from inventors and universities. So more incredible apps are bound to emerge.
    All the best J.Š

  • Andrea Rossi

    Gian Luca:
    Interesting interview,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Mario:
    Correct, but I prefer to put it more simply: the Client has not to make all these calculations, all he has to do is to connect a load ( in this case a resistance) whose power in Watts does not exceed the power of the Ecat: in the case you wrote of 100 W.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Gian Luca

    dearest A.R.

    Frank Acland on E-catworld publishes an interview with Dr. Greer in which he talks about new technologies and ZPE and the ability of inventors to manage the consequences of their own machines, which will certainly upset very important assets of states that now hold the power and therefore the ability to “cover up” what, at this time, they do not find convenient.
    Can you tell us what you think?

  • Mario

    Eng. Rossi
    (Heater)In a single 100 Watt ECAT-NGU, what value of power resistor do you suggest in order not to overload it?
    ( I=P/V = 100W/12V = 8,3A ; R=P/I^2 = 100W/8,3A^2 = 1,44ohm )
    Thank you : Mario

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jan Srajer:
    That’s a matter totally unknown to me, anyway the reduction of an Ecat into a nanofiber is fantascientific…matter for some movie, perhaps ! (LOL)
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jan Šrajer

    Mr.Rossi
    Your theoretical work is also interesting for healthcare. In the future, E-cat nanofibers could be produced that would be implanted in the pancreas and initiate the production of insulin. In general, such a source of electron oscillation could influence the metabolism of a person and eliminate obesity completely. However, humanity will only appreciate this after 50 years.

    All the best J.Š

  • Andrea Rossi

    WaltC:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Steven Nicholes Karels:
    Maybe, in future,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Pedro Ramirez:
    Yes,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Steven Nicholes Karels

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    Assuming eCat NGU technology will function in orbit – Solving the Kessler Syndrome

    “Kessler Syndrome is a nightmare space scenario in which the number of satellites and orbital debris is so high that collisions occur, each one generating more and more space debris and, in turn, cascading collisions.”

    Imagine a squadron the orbiting unmanned ships whose mission is to collect space junk. The space junk would be vaporized, turned into plasma, and shot into space (exceeding the Earth’s escape velocity), or shot into the Earth’s atmosphere where it would be absorbed or otherwise neutralized, or used to propel the ship to its next collection opportunity.

    Such a ship would require a moderate amount of power for a long time, a decade or so. An ideal application of NGU technology.

    AR – make it happen!

  • WaltC

    Dr. Rossi,
    You mentioned that domestic ECats will be plug-and-go, could you provide advance pictures, sometime soon for us?

    Best wishes,
    WaltC

  • Andrea Rossi

    Calle H:
    DISCLAIMER
    I am optimist, but I want also to be clear about an important point: until we do not start the deliveries I strongly suggest everybody not to spend money in expenses derived from the expectation that we will deliver the Ecat; all the persons that sent a pre-order must not make any expenses based on the expectation that we will turn his pre-order into a regular order, until we contact him to inform him that we are ready to turn his not binding pre-order into a binding regular order.
    This said, I am optimist, but I want not to have liabilitis if for any unexpected reason we could be not able to deliver: this is the reason for which we do not want to receive any money from the pre-orders senders.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Pedro Ramirez

    Dr Rossi,
    Question:
    Are you in contact with the persons that have been able to reproduce the zero point energy after studying the paper
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    ?

  • Calle H

    Dear Dr. Rossi,

    It will soon be 2 months since the successful Latina test (once again congratulations to that achievement). Following the test your conclusion was enough of demonstrations, time to focus on manufacturing and distribution. I think many of us are eager to go ahead with our application projects awaiting the NGUs we have ordered. In this context, are you confident with your progress of manufacturing and distribution development? so that one can start investing money and time while waiting for delivery? Thank you if you can answer.

    Kind regards,
    Calle H

  • Andrea Rossi

    Anastasia Colbert:
    The sole way to pre-order an Ecat is go to
    http://www.ecatorder.com
    fill up and sign the pre-order form and send it back.
    We will deliver only pre-orders made this way,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Wilfried:
    The Latina test has been performed inside a racetrack not in public roads, therefore also a non certified prototype has the possibility to race, respecting the rules of the racetrack: for example, we paid to reserve the whole day of September 27th to the race of the 2 Twizyes, with nobody else in the track, without public, with exception of invited persons, and with a security service to forbid the entrance to not invited persons.
    The situation is completely different in public roads. We surely will obtain a certification for this, with a long and very expensive process that for a single person for just one car would be a nonsense. Besides, we will sell the mobile applications only to a massive market, for obvious reasons, and at that point the Ecat for mobile applications must have the necessary certifications.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Anastasia Colbert

    How can I order an Ecat NGU ?

  • Wilfried

    Dear Andrea,

    You said that the E-Cat is not yet certified for mobile operation. However, it has passed the Latina test, so it is suitable for mobile operation.

    Is there a technical reason why the E-Cat is not yet certified for mobile operation, or has it simply not happened yet?

    Could I apply for special approval for a 3 kW E-Cat from the TÜV in Germany, so that the E-Cat is installed and goes into charging mode whenever the vehicle is switched off?

    Best regards
    Wilfried

  • Andrea Rossi

    Prof:
    Thank you for the update,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Rafal:
    Thank you of the information: worth to be tested.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Prof

    Dr Rossi,
    Here are the new stats of your Researchgate publications I found today on
    http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
    Total Readings: 164000, of which 150534 only for “Ecat SK and Long Range Particle Interactions”, more than all the publications on Researchgate, that are more than 165 million publications.
    And counting…
    Prof

  • Rafal

    Dear Andrea,

    Will it be possible to connect stack of 4 E-Cat NGU (48VDC output) directly to Micro Hybrid Storage Unit like this one?:
    https://www.tsun-ess.com/micro-hybrid-storage-unit.html

    Benefit of such setup is that contrary to typical Micro-Inverter this unit can charge it’s battery from E-Cat over time and allow using it when needed.
    With stack of 4 E-Cats + Micro-Inverter user is limited to 400W of output power. Replacing Micro-inverter with storage unit user can achieve up to 2000W peak power output.
    Additionally this will allow much more efficient E-Cat usage, as unit battery can be charged over night and discharged when needed during the day.
    Will E-Cat stack work correctly with MPPT function which is applied by Hybrid Storage Unit to its VDC input?

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jan Srajer:
    It depends on the power: domestic Ecats will be plug and go, industrial will need onsite installation.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Jan Šrajer

    Mr.Rossi
    When selling an E-cat, it will be in running condition or will need to be started on site.

    All the best. J.Š

  • Andrea Rossi

    Jean Pierre:
    1. yes
    2. yes
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    Thank you for the link: we are really stunned of this result,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Imwillys:
    The Ecat so far is not certified for application in vehicles,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    LarryG:
    I hope so,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Massimo: The ecat is not certified for use in navigation
    Warm Rehards,
    A.R.

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