Sergio:
The Ecat SKL was only a heat generator, while the Ecat SKLep NGU generateselectricity and, consequently, also heat, albeit the theoretical operational bases are the same.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
My residence is a 4 bedroom, two-story home. The measured average electrical power requirements range from 1.0 kW (winter time) to 2.5 kW (summer time). I use central air-conditioning during the summer time and a natural gas furnace and fireplace during the winter time. The water heater uses natural gas.
I have a Tesla Wall Charger which, when charging, draws 32Amps at 240VAC, or about 7.7 kW. The air-conditioning unit draws about 3 kW when it is running. Although the average demand is between 1 and 2.5 kW, I will need to provide up to 11 kW of electrical power.
My objective is to not draw power from the electrical grid, but to have it available, if I need it.
I have selected, for the point design, an EG4 6000XP off-grid hybrid inverter, coupled with an EG4 Wall Mount indoor battery. Two such combinations will be used, working in parallel operation.
Each EG4 6000XP is capable for supplying split-phase 120/240VAC power of up to 6,000 W continuously, with short term capacity of 12,000 W. The two units in parallel will provide 12 kW continuously, if needed.
Each 600XP will be coupled with a 280AH, 51.2V battery system, having a capacity of up to 14.3 kW-hrs of energy. With two such systems, the total energy storage will be 28.6 kW-hrs. Assuming the power needed during a grid failure will be 1.0 kW, the battery power will be sufficient for about 12 – 14 hours.
I propose to use eCat technology in lieu of Solar Panels. The Ecat units will provide power to the 6000XP units though the PV input. The acceptable input range for the 6000XP PV is between 120 VDC and 385 VDC, and a maximum allowed current of 17 Amps.
I cannot use the NGU 3kW units as its output is between 12 VDC and 110 VDC, which would make their current well over the 17 Amp 6000XP limitation. So, I plan to use a number of NGO 100W units, tied in series. I plan to use 18 100W units which would produce 1.8 kW at 216 VDC. One such string would feed each of the two 6000XP Hybrid Inverters. Each NGU string would produce a current of 8.33 Amps.
The excess power would be used to charge the batteries. During times when the air-conditioning system was active and my Tesla was being charged, the NGU units will not produce enough power. So, the additional power would be drawn from the two batteries.
6000XP health may be monitored on a phone app through the wiFi dongle supplied with each 6000XP unit.
Grid power would be taken from the main panel with two appropriately sized two-phase circuit breakers. The output AC from each 6000XP will be wired to a combiner box. Basically, a subpanel box with a two-phase circuit breaker for each 6000XP output. The combined power from the combiner box will be wired to a distribution box which will power the house.
The 6000XP will not send power back toward the electrical grid so there are not anti-islanding problems.
If I remember correctly, one of the technicians who works or worked for Andrea Rossi once said something about strange forces they saw occurring during their experiments. A kind of momentum indeed.
Personally, I no longer dare to count on experiencing a public application of E-Cat technology in this lifetime. If we look at the terrible things that are happening in various places in the world today and at the way in which society is organized among large populations, I fear that we will never be civilized enough to deal with inexhaustible energy sources and space travel.
The solutions we come up with for the problems of the past now seem to cause bigger problems for the future. It was long believed that economic growth would outpace this discrepancy, but even that seems increasingly illusory.
If I were the designer of the universe, I would ensure that the current human species would never be able to reach other worlds or civilizations. Who of all the people born after the Second World War would have ever believed that 155mm artillery shells would still become big business in 2024?
What I find most difficult to explain is Andrea Rossi’s persistence. My hope is that the knowledge is never lost, or that the technology does not end up in a forgotten archive somewhere in someone’s possession. Considering the previous two paragraphs, I have no confidence in “investors” and in the functioning of a so-called free market. If I were the devil, I would invent money.
You posted “It seems quite dangerous to me” in response to my motorized paraglider suggestion about “crossing the Atlantic”.
The example was in jest. The more likely scenario would be a cross-country flight, or flying the entire coastline to show endurance but being close enough to land to safely terminate the flight if, for example, the motor failed.
Licensed pilots can legally go up to 18,000 feet AMSL. So, a few thousand feet (or less) would allow enough descent time to safely land the vehicle.
If the E-Cat really works, there must also be the opposite principle, an infinite sink through which energy can be pumped into “space”. Everything conforms to the conservation of energy.
I imagine that the E-Cat causes a minimal, local distortion of space, at the point where the energy is “gained” until the point where the energy flows back into “space”. With the E-Cat, this is presumably almost at the same point in space.
If two E-Cats could now be synchronized at plasma level, one E-Cat could serve as a source and another E-Cat as a sink. Electrons would be generated in one E-Cat and flow to the other E-Cat via a line. There would have to be a force of motion against the flow of electrons, as the return flow across the space is material-free.
Harry:
You are correct: all the tests that followed confirmed the validity of the theoretical structure explained in the paper of Researchgate you cited,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Oddly enough, Andrea Rossi seems not to respond to your question, although you describe an extremely interesting phenomenon. Completely within the context of this propellant-free propulsion, about thirty years ago, I conducted a little experiment based on my then high school knowledge of physics, particularly the Lorentz force. This Lorentz force occurs in conductors when current flows through them while they are in a magnetic field. Electric motors operate on this principle.
The idea was to create propulsion by using air as a conductor via an electric arc, and to generate this arc in the magnetic field of a ferrite magnet.
It didn’t work…
Until I replaced the transformer with a piezo igniter from a lighter. Then I observed a perceptible force at the moment of igniting the electric arc. However, the force was so slight that I thought the motion was caused by my breath blowing against the setup. To eliminate this, I placed it in a glass jar, which I also tried to evacuate as much air from as possible. The idea was to have as little air as possible so that the plasma arc would extinguish as quickly as possible, allowing a new one to be “ignited” shortly thereafter.
The remarkable phenomenon is that the pendulum setup did not move in the direction of the Lorentz force I expected, but rather moved in the direction of the jumping electrons during the ignition of the electric arc.
There was no internet back then, and with only paper encyclopedias and books from the library, I couldn’t make much progress. I threw away the setup. I also didn’t have a camera.
So, as far as I’m concerned, the phenomenon you refer to may have some connection to the E-CAT in the sense that it could also be related to high dV/dt phenomena.
Always interested in new ideas and abnormal phenomena.
Has the power density of the E-Cat increased from 10 to 100 watt?
Is the price of the 100 Watt E-Cat 10 times more than the 10 Watt E-Cat?
I understand that you are a hard working inventor. Always willing to improve the E-Cat.
But when you have time, you can always look at the historical test of John Bedini’s
Free Energy Motor:
Yet another eCat application – Powered paragliding
Powered paragliding, also known as paramotoring or PPG, is a form of ultralight aviation where the pilot wears a back-pack motor (a paramotor) which provides enough thrust to take off using a paraglider. The paraglider itself has no rigid structure and the pilot is suspended by lines. The pilot is clipped into a harness and the motor is a backpack unit with propeller to give thrust allowing you to climb and fly level at your own will.
A powered paraglider, also known as paramotoring or PPG, can achieve speeds of around 25 to 35 miles per hour (40 to 56 kilometers per hour). The actual speed depends on factors such as wind conditions, the weight of the pilot, and the specific paramotor equipment being used. It’s a thrilling way to experience flight while enjoying the freedom of the open sky!
They Can go up to 18,000 feet above mean sea level (MSL) but most pilots fly between grass height and about 2,000 feet above ground level. Weighs between 45 and 90 pounds empty (no fuel). Carries 2 to 5 gallons (13 to 35 pounds) and burns between 0.5 to 1.3 U.S. gallon per hour.
Most extra-large paragliders can support up to 120kg (265 pounds) of weight for a single paraglider, including pilot & equipment. For heavier weights, a tandem paraglider can be used as they can support a weight of up to 240kg (529 pounds) maximum including pilot, passenger, and equipment.
Maybe the first person to cross the Atlantic in a Powered paraglider?
Yet another eCat technology application – an electric motorcycle.
“The energy consumption of the electric motorcycle is 35.96 km/kWh or 2.8 kW h/100 km. The energy consumption of the gasoline motorcycle is 41.16 km/L or 2.43 L/100 km (4.38 km/kWh or 22.84 kW h/100 km). The electric motorcycle consumed approximately eight times lower energy than the gasoline motorcycle.”
“Motorcycle fuel tanks can have a capacity between 2 to 10 gallons.”
The likely average speed for a long-distance motorcycle is 120 kph. So, 2.8 kW-hr/ 100 km * 120 km/hr = 3.36 kW.
Adding a small rechargeable battery for climbing hills, etc. and taking times out for eating, etc., the 3 kW NGU unit would nicely fit this application.
Note: the longest distance per day that I know of is 1,000 km per day.
Mels M.:
This is a good question.
We have organized the outsourcing system to increase the production as much as necessary to deliver all the Ecat pre-ordered within 6/10 months. At the most.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
i read that you can produce 500,000 ecat 100W in a year and your aim is 1 million pre-orders.
If i order now, then i have to wait full TWO years after the production started (maybe more if people in the queue before me enlarge their pre-orders ?
Or can i hope that you will increase the production significant?
Warm regards
Mels M.
Another possible application for eCat Technology – power source for Spacex Starship Tankers
Spacex has a plan of launching multiple propellant tankers orbiting in Near Earth Orbit. They would be used as propellant fueling stations to support Starships before the refueled Starship goes to the Moon or to Mars. These tankers would be periodically refilled by Starships launched from Earth. A major issue is propellant loss due to boil off. This is a simplistic analysis towards addressing that issue.
The Starship has the dimensions of a diameter of 9 meters and an approximate length of 50 meters. The Starship tankers will not have reentry thermal shielding as once they achieve orbit, they stay there. So, a long duration electrical power source is needed.
Satellites in Earth orbit experience temperature ranges from -150C to +150C. The temperature range varies as approximately 1/2 of the time the satellite is in direct sunlight and the other 1/2 time it is in the Earth’s shadow.
The propellant in Starship is liquid methane and liquid oxygen. The liquid methane is chilled to -180 °C, while the liquid oxygen is chilled to -207 °C.
Some sort of power system will be needed within the Starship tanker to keep the propellants at their desired temperatures.
First Order Heat Transfer Analysis
Model the Starship as a rectangular panel of 9 meters by 50 meters, facing the Sun.
in Near Earth Orbit, solar intensity is 1,369 W/meter squared.
Stainless Steel, in the thermal wavelengths, has a reflectivity of approximately 88%.
So, in direct sunlight, the power being received by the Starship exterior is about 73.4 kW.
With 1/2 of the time spent in the Earth’s shadow, the effective average thermal load will be 36.7 kW. Over 24 hours, the total energy will be about 880 kW-hrs.
The ship’s insulation will slow the heat transfer, but it will not stop the heat transfer. It is likely that vacuum insulation will be used to decrease the thermal conductivity to a value of 2 W/(m/K).
If we assume some sort of cryogenic system will be in use, especially while the Starship tanker is in the Earth’s shadow, and an assumed efficiency of 10%, then the electrical power requirement will be around 2.2 MW for cooling in over 4 hours.
It is likely that two separate cryogenic cooling systems will be required, but the total power should be around 3 MW (allowing for environmental conditioning of the NGU unit and other control equipment) as the cooling process may only be accomplished efficiently while in the Earth’s shadow and not while either being refueled or refueling another Starship. So, the cooling should be done quickly, so as to not interfere with the refueling mission.
Alternatively, the Starship tanker could surround the propellant tanks in liquid nitrogen and then use a single cryogenic cooling system would cool only the nitrogen.
Another alternative would be to keep the orientation of the tanker pointed at the Sun to minimize thermal energy.
Tanker orientation could be accomplished by using a very small amount of the propellant to control attitude and/or rotation.
The proposed system would pump the boil-off from each propellant tank, compress it (thus heating it up), radiating the excess heat into space, and then cooling it down to the desired temperature by expansion.
Problems such as propellant transfer, separation of liquid and gaseous propellants, are left to Spacex.
Perhaps the cryogenic cooling is only done while the tanker is rotating to induce an artificial gravity to facilitate liquid/gas separation and transfer?
You posted that you wanted me to redo my math on the new heater.
“Generally, space heaters use 1,500 watts (W) of electricity, depending on the model. Most space heaters use about 15 amps and connect to a 120-volt outlet.”
So, to be competitive, we are likely looking at a 1.5kW space heater application. With a stated price of $2.50USD per Watt for eCat technology, the price of the new space heater will be $3,750 USD.
Space heaters are used an average of 8 hours per day, depending on the location and user needs.
If we assume an average cost of electricity to be $0.20 USD per kW-hr, then the breakeven time, in terms of the cost of electricity savings, will be 4.3 years.
Current space heaters cost around $100 USD.
Most current space heaters have temperature controls so that they turn off when the room reaches the desired temperature. For example, if the average duty cycle is 50% on, then the 4.3 years will double to 8.6 years.
My point being that eCat technology is best served when the use is 100% of the time. Space heater, I suggest, are not the ideal platform for eCat technology.
Caro Dott. Rossi
Il suo prototipo di riscaldatore da 3KW è bellissimo, ma mi ricorda la mia infanzia quando c’era il caminetto in cucina e la vita si trascorreva lì tutto il giorno, perché tutte le altre stanze erano freddissime.
Mi fa pensare alla caldaia a Gas che possiedo e tutto l’impianto di tubi e radiatori necessari per portare il calore in tutto l’appartamento.
Mi fa pensare alle stufe a pellet che usano un sistema di ventilazione per cercare di scaldare più possibile lontano dalla fonte di calore, oppure a quelle più costose e complicate Idro Pellet.
Col suo Ecat che produce energia elettrica basterebbero delle stufe elettriche da poche decine di euro messe nelle varie stanze per riscaldare un appartamento intero.
Chi vuole spendere di più userà dei climatizzatori, col vantaggio di avere anche aria fresca in estate.
Quindi trovo ottimo il suo riscaldatore ma solo come test per l’Ecat, oppure per una demo pubblica.
Consiglio quindi di concentrarsi solo sulla produzione di corrente elettrica.
E sulle prossime demo, al più presto possibile ovviamente.
Buon lavoro
TRANSLATE
His prototype 3KW stove is beautiful, but it reminds me of my childhood when there was a fireplace in the kitchen and we spent our lives there all day, because all the other rooms were very cold.
It makes me think of the gas boiler I own and the entire system of pipes and radiators needed to bring heat throughout the apartment.
It makes me think of pellet stoves that use a ventilation system to try to heat as far as possible from the heat source, or of the more expensive and complicated Hydro Pellet ones.
With its Ecat that produces electricity, electric heaters costing a few tens of euros positioned in the various rooms would be enough to heat an entire apartment.
Those who want to spend more will use air conditioners, with the advantage of having fresh air even in summer.
So I find its heating excellent but only as a test for the Ecat, or for a public demo.
I therefore recommend focusing only on electricity production.
And to the next demos, as soon as possible obviously.
Hello from the beautiful island of Utila Honduras, I have been following you for more than 20 years I think. I wanted to know if you have ever reached out to Elon Musk? There is great demand for intense energy supply for AI computing, and also various things, of course. I have had a variety of orders since the first day you made that available and I’m looking forward to the day I can get the devices I’m in the mist of needing to install either solar power, which is quite expensive or in the ultimate hopes that your device is ready within the next 6 months for shipment I’m truly hoping it would be within six months as it would save me a great deal of money over solar power. I would still need to purchase the charge controllers, of course, but they are the least expensive part of the solar systems these days. also, it would change the lives for people in places like this electricity cost $.57 per kilowatt here!
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. no
2. no
3. yes, but this is not a product, but a prototype made along our spedific R&D and eventual measurements
4. not shown
5. 30 cm/side
6. please redo your math
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The new heater is very interesting, and will make a great demonstration device. However, there are a lot of manufacturers who could make this, I’m not sure why you would want to. You will create a self-charging EV battery pack for a demonstration, but I imagine it would be better to let EV manufacturers design and build their own, rather than manufacture them yourself. You have had a huge number of very good ideas for products which would incorporate E-Cats presented on the blog, you can’t build them all!
You have a plan, obviously, I am just struggling with what seems to be a sidetrack. It is going to be a huge effort to just build enough E-Cat units to keep up with demand once they are introduced. Every product that uses electricity could potentially use an E-Cat, and every producer will want to design products that will incorporate them. It seems to me that your currently planned production of 100MW per year (1 million units of 100W) is just the barest start!
Maybe I misunderstand your manufacturing strategy.
1. Do you really intend to have Leonardo Corp. manufacture specific products like this, in addition to the E-Cat in its various forms?
2. Is this not a distraction from your main effort, which is to bring the E-Cat to market?
3. Or is this something you will do with a manufacturing partner?
All the best,
Ron Stringer
The following was posted on another site regarding the NGU Heater.
“a prototype heater we have under development in our lab. This heater is powered by the E-Cat NGU, no connection to the grid is needed.”
Questions:
1. Is there a 3 kW eCat NGU unit inside the heater?
2. Or is this a resistive load for an external NGU unit?
3. Is the unit shown on its side — the fins are mounted horizontally when they should be vertical for convection heat transfer.
4. Where is the on/off switch, the temperature selection, the temperature display, and the necessary safety equipment to turn off the power?
5. What are the dimensions of this “cube”. It appears to be about 40 cm on a side.
6. Given a current price of $2.50USD per Watt for eCat technology and the average space heater usage is less than 8 hours per day, it seems it would take a very long time to pay for itself in electricity savings. Comments?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. it is not part of the unit, because its characteristics will depend on the specific situations. We will be able to supply it as an optional upon request of the Customer
2. same as in 1
3. same as in 1
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Today the paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
reached 129000 total readings,, more than the 99.9% of 1.5 million papers published on Researchgate.
And counting…
Best
Prof
Ernest Dallafior:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sergio:
The Ecat SKL was only a heat generator, while the Ecat SKLep NGU generateselectricity and, consequently, also heat, albeit the theoretical operational bases are the same.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi:
Which is basically the difference between the Ecat SKL you introduced in the years 2018-2019 and the new version Ecat SKL NGU ?
Best,
Sergio
One Question. Is your latest device running in SSM mode?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
That could be an optional,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Will all NGU units have a remotely activated control line input to turn off the NGU? Or is it a special order option?
Steve D:
1- the control system, that can also be considered an AI
2- same as in 1
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Peter:
True,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
A few clarifications if you don’t mind.
To provide the drive characteristic to the reactor core for correct operation, this the role of
1a) the controller
1b) AI
1c) something else
To maintain a constant power output but within operational limits, this is the role of
2a) the controller
2b) AI
2c) something else
Thank you
@Jorge Almeida:
Kudos to your comment !
Best
Roberto
Dr Rossi,
The paper in
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
has obtained 1384 reccomendations, most of which made by physicists, researchers: if we consider the fact that the same paper reached, as of today, 128871 total readings, it appears to be among the most peer reviewed paper of its cathegory.
All the best,
Peter
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Point Design for an eCat-powered residential home
My residence is a 4 bedroom, two-story home. The measured average electrical power requirements range from 1.0 kW (winter time) to 2.5 kW (summer time). I use central air-conditioning during the summer time and a natural gas furnace and fireplace during the winter time. The water heater uses natural gas.
I have a Tesla Wall Charger which, when charging, draws 32Amps at 240VAC, or about 7.7 kW. The air-conditioning unit draws about 3 kW when it is running. Although the average demand is between 1 and 2.5 kW, I will need to provide up to 11 kW of electrical power.
My objective is to not draw power from the electrical grid, but to have it available, if I need it.
I have selected, for the point design, an EG4 6000XP off-grid hybrid inverter, coupled with an EG4 Wall Mount indoor battery. Two such combinations will be used, working in parallel operation.
Each EG4 6000XP is capable for supplying split-phase 120/240VAC power of up to 6,000 W continuously, with short term capacity of 12,000 W. The two units in parallel will provide 12 kW continuously, if needed.
Each 600XP will be coupled with a 280AH, 51.2V battery system, having a capacity of up to 14.3 kW-hrs of energy. With two such systems, the total energy storage will be 28.6 kW-hrs. Assuming the power needed during a grid failure will be 1.0 kW, the battery power will be sufficient for about 12 – 14 hours.
I propose to use eCat technology in lieu of Solar Panels. The Ecat units will provide power to the 6000XP units though the PV input. The acceptable input range for the 6000XP PV is between 120 VDC and 385 VDC, and a maximum allowed current of 17 Amps.
I cannot use the NGU 3kW units as its output is between 12 VDC and 110 VDC, which would make their current well over the 17 Amp 6000XP limitation. So, I plan to use a number of NGO 100W units, tied in series. I plan to use 18 100W units which would produce 1.8 kW at 216 VDC. One such string would feed each of the two 6000XP Hybrid Inverters. Each NGU string would produce a current of 8.33 Amps.
The excess power would be used to charge the batteries. During times when the air-conditioning system was active and my Tesla was being charged, the NGU units will not produce enough power. So, the additional power would be drawn from the two batteries.
6000XP health may be monitored on a phone app through the wiFi dongle supplied with each 6000XP unit.
Grid power would be taken from the main panel with two appropriately sized two-phase circuit breakers. The output AC from each 6000XP will be wired to a combiner box. Basically, a subpanel box with a two-phase circuit breaker for each 6000XP output. The combined power from the combiner box will be wired to a distribution box which will power the house.
The 6000XP will not send power back toward the electrical grid so there are not anti-islanding problems.
Thoughts?
Jorge Almeida:
Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
The lecture of the paragraphs 5 and 6 of the paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
watching the recent photos of the R&D with the Ecat NGU is really exciting,
All the best,
Jorge Almeida
@Wilfried
Dear Wilfried,
If I remember correctly, one of the technicians who works or worked for Andrea Rossi once said something about strange forces they saw occurring during their experiments. A kind of momentum indeed.
Personally, I no longer dare to count on experiencing a public application of E-Cat technology in this lifetime. If we look at the terrible things that are happening in various places in the world today and at the way in which society is organized among large populations, I fear that we will never be civilized enough to deal with inexhaustible energy sources and space travel.
The solutions we come up with for the problems of the past now seem to cause bigger problems for the future. It was long believed that economic growth would outpace this discrepancy, but even that seems increasingly illusory.
If I were the designer of the universe, I would ensure that the current human species would never be able to reach other worlds or civilizations. Who of all the people born after the Second World War would have ever believed that 155mm artillery shells would still become big business in 2024?
What I find most difficult to explain is Andrea Rossi’s persistence. My hope is that the knowledge is never lost, or that the technology does not end up in a forgotten archive somewhere in someone’s possession. Considering the previous two paragraphs, I have no confidence in “investors” and in the functioning of a so-called free market. If I were the devil, I would invent money.
Kind regards,
Koen
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Definitely too dangerous,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
You posted “It seems quite dangerous to me” in response to my motorized paraglider suggestion about “crossing the Atlantic”.
The example was in jest. The more likely scenario would be a cross-country flight, or flying the entire coastline to show endurance but being close enough to land to safely terminate the flight if, for example, the motor failed.
Licensed pilots can legally go up to 18,000 feet AMSL. So, a few thousand feet (or less) would allow enough descent time to safely land the vehicle.
Frank Acland:
Thank you for the links.
a) various electronic circuits to verify the theoretical system explained in
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
b) yes
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
There is interesting photo you posted on Twitter recently.(https://twitter.com/LeonardoCorpor3/status/1782426476773576999, https://e-catworld.com/2024/04/24/testing-of-e-cat-core-shown-in-new-photo/)
a) Can you explain what is the large grey box located on the desktop?
b) Is the E-Cat NGU core the same as the core of the previous E-Cat SKLep?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
@ Koen Vandewalle
If the E-Cat really works, there must also be the opposite principle, an infinite sink through which energy can be pumped into “space”. Everything conforms to the conservation of energy.
I imagine that the E-Cat causes a minimal, local distortion of space, at the point where the energy is “gained” until the point where the energy flows back into “space”. With the E-Cat, this is presumably almost at the same point in space.
If two E-Cats could now be synchronized at plasma level, one E-Cat could serve as a source and another E-Cat as a sink. Electrons would be generated in one E-Cat and flow to the other E-Cat via a line. There would have to be a force of motion against the flow of electrons, as the return flow across the space is material-free.
Best Regards
Wilfried
Harry:
You are correct: all the tests that followed confirmed the validity of the theoretical structure explained in the paper of Researchgate you cited,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven N. Karels:
It seems quite dangerous to me,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hermes Atar Trismegistus:
1- no
2- yes
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Wilfried 20 April 10:33AM
Dear Wilfried,
Oddly enough, Andrea Rossi seems not to respond to your question, although you describe an extremely interesting phenomenon. Completely within the context of this propellant-free propulsion, about thirty years ago, I conducted a little experiment based on my then high school knowledge of physics, particularly the Lorentz force. This Lorentz force occurs in conductors when current flows through them while they are in a magnetic field. Electric motors operate on this principle.
The idea was to create propulsion by using air as a conductor via an electric arc, and to generate this arc in the magnetic field of a ferrite magnet.
It didn’t work…
Until I replaced the transformer with a piezo igniter from a lighter. Then I observed a perceptible force at the moment of igniting the electric arc. However, the force was so slight that I thought the motion was caused by my breath blowing against the setup. To eliminate this, I placed it in a glass jar, which I also tried to evacuate as much air from as possible. The idea was to have as little air as possible so that the plasma arc would extinguish as quickly as possible, allowing a new one to be “ignited” shortly thereafter.
The remarkable phenomenon is that the pendulum setup did not move in the direction of the Lorentz force I expected, but rather moved in the direction of the jumping electrons during the ignition of the electric arc.
There was no internet back then, and with only paper encyclopedias and books from the library, I couldn’t make much progress. I threw away the setup. I also didn’t have a camera.
So, as far as I’m concerned, the phenomenon you refer to may have some connection to the E-CAT in the sense that it could also be related to high dV/dt phenomena.
Always interested in new ideas and abnormal phenomena.
Best regards,
Koen
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Has the power density of the E-Cat increased from 10 to 100 watt?
Is the price of the 100 Watt E-Cat 10 times more than the 10 Watt E-Cat?
I understand that you are a hard working inventor. Always willing to improve the E-Cat.
But when you have time, you can always look at the historical test of John Bedini’s
Free Energy Motor:
http://gratisenergi.se/bedini.htm
Best Wishes, Hermes
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Yet another eCat application – Powered paragliding
Powered paragliding, also known as paramotoring or PPG, is a form of ultralight aviation where the pilot wears a back-pack motor (a paramotor) which provides enough thrust to take off using a paraglider. The paraglider itself has no rigid structure and the pilot is suspended by lines. The pilot is clipped into a harness and the motor is a backpack unit with propeller to give thrust allowing you to climb and fly level at your own will.
A powered paraglider, also known as paramotoring or PPG, can achieve speeds of around 25 to 35 miles per hour (40 to 56 kilometers per hour). The actual speed depends on factors such as wind conditions, the weight of the pilot, and the specific paramotor equipment being used. It’s a thrilling way to experience flight while enjoying the freedom of the open sky!
They Can go up to 18,000 feet above mean sea level (MSL) but most pilots fly between grass height and about 2,000 feet above ground level. Weighs between 45 and 90 pounds empty (no fuel). Carries 2 to 5 gallons (13 to 35 pounds) and burns between 0.5 to 1.3 U.S. gallon per hour.
Most extra-large paragliders can support up to 120kg (265 pounds) of weight for a single paraglider, including pilot & equipment. For heavier weights, a tandem paraglider can be used as they can support a weight of up to 240kg (529 pounds) maximum including pilot, passenger, and equipment.
Maybe the first person to cross the Atlantic in a Powered paraglider?
Dr Rossi,
I have just viewed the photo of the actual internal Ecat NGU reactor (development). It can seen this is visually similar the the 2017 reactor. Is this due to a linear development guided by the principles found in the paper found at: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Thanks,
Harry. R
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Yet another eCat technology application – an electric motorcycle.
“The energy consumption of the electric motorcycle is 35.96 km/kWh or 2.8 kW h/100 km. The energy consumption of the gasoline motorcycle is 41.16 km/L or 2.43 L/100 km (4.38 km/kWh or 22.84 kW h/100 km). The electric motorcycle consumed approximately eight times lower energy than the gasoline motorcycle.”
“Motorcycle fuel tanks can have a capacity between 2 to 10 gallons.”
The likely average speed for a long-distance motorcycle is 120 kph. So, 2.8 kW-hr/ 100 km * 120 km/hr = 3.36 kW.
Adding a small rechargeable battery for climbing hills, etc. and taking times out for eating, etc., the 3 kW NGU unit would nicely fit this application.
Note: the longest distance per day that I know of is 1,000 km per day.
Mels M.:
This is a good question.
We have organized the outsourcing system to increase the production as much as necessary to deliver all the Ecat pre-ordered within 6/10 months. At the most.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
i read that you can produce 500,000 ecat 100W in a year and your aim is 1 million pre-orders.
If i order now, then i have to wait full TWO years after the production started (maybe more if people in the queue before me enlarge their pre-orders ?
Or can i hope that you will increase the production significant?
Warm regards
Mels M.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Another possible application for eCat Technology – power source for Spacex Starship Tankers
Spacex has a plan of launching multiple propellant tankers orbiting in Near Earth Orbit. They would be used as propellant fueling stations to support Starships before the refueled Starship goes to the Moon or to Mars. These tankers would be periodically refilled by Starships launched from Earth. A major issue is propellant loss due to boil off. This is a simplistic analysis towards addressing that issue.
The Starship has the dimensions of a diameter of 9 meters and an approximate length of 50 meters. The Starship tankers will not have reentry thermal shielding as once they achieve orbit, they stay there. So, a long duration electrical power source is needed.
Satellites in Earth orbit experience temperature ranges from -150C to +150C. The temperature range varies as approximately 1/2 of the time the satellite is in direct sunlight and the other 1/2 time it is in the Earth’s shadow.
The propellant in Starship is liquid methane and liquid oxygen. The liquid methane is chilled to -180 °C, while the liquid oxygen is chilled to -207 °C.
Some sort of power system will be needed within the Starship tanker to keep the propellants at their desired temperatures.
First Order Heat Transfer Analysis
Model the Starship as a rectangular panel of 9 meters by 50 meters, facing the Sun.
in Near Earth Orbit, solar intensity is 1,369 W/meter squared.
Stainless Steel, in the thermal wavelengths, has a reflectivity of approximately 88%.
So, in direct sunlight, the power being received by the Starship exterior is about 73.4 kW.
With 1/2 of the time spent in the Earth’s shadow, the effective average thermal load will be 36.7 kW. Over 24 hours, the total energy will be about 880 kW-hrs.
The ship’s insulation will slow the heat transfer, but it will not stop the heat transfer. It is likely that vacuum insulation will be used to decrease the thermal conductivity to a value of 2 W/(m/K).
If we assume some sort of cryogenic system will be in use, especially while the Starship tanker is in the Earth’s shadow, and an assumed efficiency of 10%, then the electrical power requirement will be around 2.2 MW for cooling in over 4 hours.
It is likely that two separate cryogenic cooling systems will be required, but the total power should be around 3 MW (allowing for environmental conditioning of the NGU unit and other control equipment) as the cooling process may only be accomplished efficiently while in the Earth’s shadow and not while either being refueled or refueling another Starship. So, the cooling should be done quickly, so as to not interfere with the refueling mission.
Alternatively, the Starship tanker could surround the propellant tanks in liquid nitrogen and then use a single cryogenic cooling system would cool only the nitrogen.
Another alternative would be to keep the orientation of the tanker pointed at the Sun to minimize thermal energy.
Tanker orientation could be accomplished by using a very small amount of the propellant to control attitude and/or rotation.
The proposed system would pump the boil-off from each propellant tank, compress it (thus heating it up), radiating the excess heat into space, and then cooling it down to the desired temperature by expansion.
Problems such as propellant transfer, separation of liquid and gaseous propellants, are left to Spacex.
Perhaps the cryogenic cooling is only done while the tanker is rotating to induce an artificial gravity to facilitate liquid/gas separation and transfer?
Thoughts?
Gavino Mamia:
You are right,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
You posted that you wanted me to redo my math on the new heater.
“Generally, space heaters use 1,500 watts (W) of electricity, depending on the model. Most space heaters use about 15 amps and connect to a 120-volt outlet.”
So, to be competitive, we are likely looking at a 1.5kW space heater application. With a stated price of $2.50USD per Watt for eCat technology, the price of the new space heater will be $3,750 USD.
Space heaters are used an average of 8 hours per day, depending on the location and user needs.
If we assume an average cost of electricity to be $0.20 USD per kW-hr, then the breakeven time, in terms of the cost of electricity savings, will be 4.3 years.
Current space heaters cost around $100 USD.
Most current space heaters have temperature controls so that they turn off when the room reaches the desired temperature. For example, if the average duty cycle is 50% on, then the 4.3 years will double to 8.6 years.
My point being that eCat technology is best served when the use is 100% of the time. Space heater, I suggest, are not the ideal platform for eCat technology.
Caro Dott. Rossi
Il suo prototipo di riscaldatore da 3KW è bellissimo, ma mi ricorda la mia infanzia quando c’era il caminetto in cucina e la vita si trascorreva lì tutto il giorno, perché tutte le altre stanze erano freddissime.
Mi fa pensare alla caldaia a Gas che possiedo e tutto l’impianto di tubi e radiatori necessari per portare il calore in tutto l’appartamento.
Mi fa pensare alle stufe a pellet che usano un sistema di ventilazione per cercare di scaldare più possibile lontano dalla fonte di calore, oppure a quelle più costose e complicate Idro Pellet.
Col suo Ecat che produce energia elettrica basterebbero delle stufe elettriche da poche decine di euro messe nelle varie stanze per riscaldare un appartamento intero.
Chi vuole spendere di più userà dei climatizzatori, col vantaggio di avere anche aria fresca in estate.
Quindi trovo ottimo il suo riscaldatore ma solo come test per l’Ecat, oppure per una demo pubblica.
Consiglio quindi di concentrarsi solo sulla produzione di corrente elettrica.
E sulle prossime demo, al più presto possibile ovviamente.
Buon lavoro
TRANSLATE
His prototype 3KW stove is beautiful, but it reminds me of my childhood when there was a fireplace in the kitchen and we spent our lives there all day, because all the other rooms were very cold.
It makes me think of the gas boiler I own and the entire system of pipes and radiators needed to bring heat throughout the apartment.
It makes me think of pellet stoves that use a ventilation system to try to heat as far as possible from the heat source, or of the more expensive and complicated Hydro Pellet ones.
With its Ecat that produces electricity, electric heaters costing a few tens of euros positioned in the various rooms would be enough to heat an entire apartment.
Those who want to spend more will use air conditioners, with the advantage of having fresh air even in summer.
So I find its heating excellent but only as a test for the Ecat, or for a public demo.
I therefore recommend focusing only on electricity production.
And to the next demos, as soon as possible obviously.
Todd Burkett:
Thank you for your high fidelity !
When we will be ready to deliver we will contact you.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello from the beautiful island of Utila Honduras, I have been following you for more than 20 years I think. I wanted to know if you have ever reached out to Elon Musk? There is great demand for intense energy supply for AI computing, and also various things, of course. I have had a variety of orders since the first day you made that available and I’m looking forward to the day I can get the devices I’m in the mist of needing to install either solar power, which is quite expensive or in the ultimate hopes that your device is ready within the next 6 months for shipment I’m truly hoping it would be within six months as it would save me a great deal of money over solar power. I would still need to purchase the charge controllers, of course, but they are the least expensive part of the solar systems these days. also, it would change the lives for people in places like this electricity cost $.57 per kilowatt here!
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. no
2. no
3. yes, but this is not a product, but a prototype made along our spedific R&D and eventual measurements
4. not shown
5. 30 cm/side
6. please redo your math
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The new heater is very interesting, and will make a great demonstration device. However, there are a lot of manufacturers who could make this, I’m not sure why you would want to. You will create a self-charging EV battery pack for a demonstration, but I imagine it would be better to let EV manufacturers design and build their own, rather than manufacture them yourself. You have had a huge number of very good ideas for products which would incorporate E-Cats presented on the blog, you can’t build them all!
You have a plan, obviously, I am just struggling with what seems to be a sidetrack. It is going to be a huge effort to just build enough E-Cat units to keep up with demand once they are introduced. Every product that uses electricity could potentially use an E-Cat, and every producer will want to design products that will incorporate them. It seems to me that your currently planned production of 100MW per year (1 million units of 100W) is just the barest start!
Maybe I misunderstand your manufacturing strategy.
1. Do you really intend to have Leonardo Corp. manufacture specific products like this, in addition to the E-Cat in its various forms?
2. Is this not a distraction from your main effort, which is to bring the E-Cat to market?
3. Or is this something you will do with a manufacturing partner?
All the best,
Ron Stringer
Dear Andrea Rossi,
The following was posted on another site regarding the NGU Heater.
“a prototype heater we have under development in our lab. This heater is powered by the E-Cat NGU, no connection to the grid is needed.”
Questions:
1. Is there a 3 kW eCat NGU unit inside the heater?
2. Or is this a resistive load for an external NGU unit?
3. Is the unit shown on its side — the fins are mounted horizontally when they should be vertical for convection heat transfer.
4. Where is the on/off switch, the temperature selection, the temperature display, and the necessary safety equipment to turn off the power?
5. What are the dimensions of this “cube”. It appears to be about 40 cm on a side.
6. Given a current price of $2.50USD per Watt for eCat technology and the average space heater usage is less than 8 hours per day, it seems it would take a very long time to pay for itself in electricity savings. Comments?
Dear Andrea,
how could this article be related to the E-Cat?
https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-earths-gravity/
Best Regards
Wilfried
Z.Roeden:
Any heater can be powered by the Ecat,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Jan Srajer:
Actually, it is a heater; this said, an electric cooler can certainly be powered by an Ecat,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr.Rossi
I see an E-cat NGU cooler in the picture. I wonder what the temperature of those coolers is.
All the best J.Š
Dear Dr. Rossi,
thanks to your new heater you can save heating costs at your office.
But is it possible to connect such a heater with 230V-2000Watt for just 30€:
https://www.amazon.de/s?k=ölradiator&i=diy&crid=2HL300K7HO66K&sprefix=ölradiator%2Cdiy%2C72&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
directly to an ecat 3KW ?
Best regards
Z.Roeden
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. it is not part of the unit, because its characteristics will depend on the specific situations. We will be able to supply it as an optional upon request of the Customer
2. same as in 1
3. same as in 1
Warm Regards,
A.R.