In my opinion the E-cat unit price should be that which generates sufficient cash flow to comfortably cover the cost of financing whatever the rate of growth in demand turns out to be:
Suppose, for example, that production starts at a rate of one million units per year (about 2700 units per day), and that demand were to be found to rise at a rate of 50% per year: after 25 years at that expansion rate, output and demand would amount to 2.5×10^10 units annually. I suggest that the product should be priced so as to comfortably finance such a rate of expansion.
Among the advantages of this would be that massive and highly efficient production could be quickly established to forestall the attractiveness to anyone who might wish to compete without complying with their responsibilities under patent law.
Very likely that is already the plan. I am just adding some encouragement.
May I ask a few more questions about your new high voltage devices that may be of interest to those interested in your work.
1. Is the usage life time of the device I reduced with the higher power output?
2 Or does it remain about the same?
I suppose that with the higher voltage low current devices any joule heating is reduced when compared to the previous 12V devices.
3. Is the heat output of the new device reduced compared to the earlier devices and consequently one may say its efficiency increased?
4. Or does it remain the same percentage (if I recall right about 5% of output power as before?
Dear Andrea
One of the biggest problems with wind and solar-based energy is adjusting the production to the current consumption at any given time.
An Ecat-based 22kV-1MW plant includes 2000 simple 500W Ecats.
Can the total energy output from such a plant be regulated in close to 2000 steps so that the production can be easily and accurately adjusted to the current energy demand?
Regards Svein
Dr Rossi,
I totally understand the cautious approach of your global licensee to the market: every other day there is somebody that announces his readiness to present their reactor: what a strange coincidence with the possibility for them to buy something useful for their reverse engineering… If I was your global licensee I too should prefer to sell only big plants for industrial and restricted applications, to consolidate the bases before allowing the reverse engineering that unavoidably will go on.
Good luck !
Don
Dear Dr. Rossi,
It’s almost mid-November now. Can you tell us which of the production sites will produce and deliver the very first ecat units? Which of the sites in the EU, USA or Asia will be the first, second and third? And how many weeks will there be between the first and third production sites?
Warm regards
Steffen
Dear Andrea
Thank you for your quick response to my recognition of your licensees’ strategy.
I can also point out that since in all countries there is also a need for government approvals for new construction and land use, a situation where the applicant, in addition to not requiring access to local electricity, can offer to expand its own energy production beyond its own needs and thereby deliver 22kV to the local network. This with energy that is more environmentally friendly than both wind and solar power.
It is probably very interesting in all local areas in all countries.
Such a building application with such an offer will probably be able to get through the system quickly.
Since an Ecat-based 22kV plant produces the energy and does not only transmit energy produced by others, the Ecat electricity will be able to give the owners of the 22kV stations a good profit compared to normal market prices for electricity in most countries.
Dr. Rossi, Your development of a 500W reactor is amazing. Can you tell us, is the actual reactor larger, or do you get the gain from efficiency in managing the existing reactor
Dear Andrea
If one or more 22kV units of 1MW can serve a new data center without the need for access to electrical energy from the existing network, there is a very lucrative and pressing market here.
Is such use a clear opportunity?
This alone would be reason enough for your licensees to primarily focus on 22kV units in all countries, as there is a shortage of both available electrical energy and the necessary distribution networks everywhere.
Applications to the authorities for such critical permits would thus be avoided.
Dear Dr. Rossi
1) What formula do you use to calculate COP.
2) Based on this formula, what is the COP of the 10W base unit?
3) Assuming my understanding that the current theory of how the ECAT works is that energy is transferred from the “ZPE field” to, for lack of a better term, “our world”, shouldn’t this energy input be considered in the COP calculation, in which case the COP is probably less than unity?
Best Regards, LarryG
Dear Dr Rossi
Could you please clarify whether when you talk about 22Kv output are the Ecat cells wired in series adding up to 22Kv DC or are they connected in series them say up to 1Kv dc and then putting it via a DC to AC inverter with 600Vac output then stepping up via a tranformer to 22kV AC.
This is very common with Solar PV, this would allow the system to be grid compatible without further testing if PV inverters are used.
It’s very exciting news to hear that the 500 W unit is progressing well and already under testing I presume.
May I ask a few related questions.
1. Is this unit based in a single reactor core?
2. Or an assembly of reactors or subunits?
3. In either case I suppose that this improvement is a result of some previous limiting factor now being resolved or worked around in away that is allowing it to fulfill its potential, is this the case?
4. Are you also considering going larger still? Or will you stick with the 500W units?
Anyway it sounds like positive news and I’m looking forward to hearing how it goes.
Can they tell what current the reactor “generates” directly before it leaves the output of the module (10W/12V)?
So before the electronics in the module bring him up to these values.
1.V.
2.A.
3.Hz.
Hello Andrea,
You’re talking about deliveries… do you mean the devices to the private customer or the devices for the licensee for the intermediate power plants? Or both… I know it no longer depends on them, but I think their loyal following would be very happy for the long-standing patience. For me personally, it’s been almost 15 years now. Please put in a good word for us, with your licensees.
Thank you for your response on the 500W Power Units.
Questions:
1. The has an output Voltage of 20,000 Volts. Is that DC?
2. Is a variant of the 500W Power unit possible at 12VDC, 60VDC, or 120VDC?
3. Does the 20,000V 500W Power Unit directly produce Grid ready power (Grid Intermediate Voltage and synchronized to Grid frequency and phase)?
Hi Andrea:
In case it might be a helpful suggestion:
In my opinion the E-cat unit price should be that which generates sufficient cash flow to comfortably cover the cost of financing whatever the rate of growth in demand turns out to be:
Suppose, for example, that production starts at a rate of one million units per year (about 2700 units per day), and that demand were to be found to rise at a rate of 50% per year: after 25 years at that expansion rate, output and demand would amount to 2.5×10^10 units annually. I suggest that the product should be priced so as to comfortably finance such a rate of expansion.
Among the advantages of this would be that massive and highly efficient production could be quickly established to forestall the attractiveness to anyone who might wish to compete without complying with their responsibilities under patent law.
Very likely that is already the plan. I am just adding some encouragement.
Rodney.
Martin:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gabriele:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
are you using an e-cat in your home?
Warm Regards,
Gabriele
Dear Andrea ,
Will the 500 W be cheaper than the 5×100 W. ?
Thanks
Stephen:
1. no
2. yes
3. no
4. yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
May I ask a few more questions about your new high voltage devices that may be of interest to those interested in your work.
1. Is the usage life time of the device I reduced with the higher power output?
2 Or does it remain about the same?
I suppose that with the higher voltage low current devices any joule heating is reduced when compared to the previous 12V devices.
3. Is the heat output of the new device reduced compared to the earlier devices and consequently one may say its efficiency increased?
4. Or does it remain the same percentage (if I recall right about 5% of output power as before?
Best regards
Stephen
Svein:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Donato Giubilei:
I agree.
Thank you for your support,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
One of the biggest problems with wind and solar-based energy is adjusting the production to the current consumption at any given time.
An Ecat-based 22kV-1MW plant includes 2000 simple 500W Ecats.
Can the total energy output from such a plant be regulated in close to 2000 steps so that the production can be easily and accurately adjusted to the current energy demand?
Regards Svein
Dr Rossi,
I totally understand the cautious approach of your global licensee to the market: every other day there is somebody that announces his readiness to present their reactor: what a strange coincidence with the possibility for them to buy something useful for their reverse engineering… If I was your global licensee I too should prefer to sell only big plants for industrial and restricted applications, to consolidate the bases before allowing the reverse engineering that unavoidably will go on.
Good luck !
Don
Steffen:
No,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
It’s almost mid-November now. Can you tell us which of the production sites will produce and deliver the very first ecat units? Which of the sites in the EU, USA or Asia will be the first, second and third? And how many weeks will there be between the first and third production sites?
Warm regards
Steffen
Ron Stringer:
It will be larger, but not as much as an assembly made by 5 units of 100 W,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Svein:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
ELVIRA:
I agree,
Thank you for your support,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bonjour Docteur ROSSI et aussi à toute votre Equipe
Suggestion:
des maisons
des usines,
des centrales de production toutes témoins du bon fonctionnement de l’ECAT Il est grand temps de se lancer croyez vous pas?
Amitiés Jean-Claude ELVIRA
Dear Andrea
Thank you for your quick response to my recognition of your licensees’ strategy.
I can also point out that since in all countries there is also a need for government approvals for new construction and land use, a situation where the applicant, in addition to not requiring access to local electricity, can offer to expand its own energy production beyond its own needs and thereby deliver 22kV to the local network. This with energy that is more environmentally friendly than both wind and solar power.
It is probably very interesting in all local areas in all countries.
Such a building application with such an offer will probably be able to get through the system quickly.
Since an Ecat-based 22kV plant produces the energy and does not only transmit energy produced by others, the Ecat electricity will be able to give the owners of the 22kV stations a good profit compared to normal market prices for electricity in most countries.
Regards Svein
Dr. Rossi, Your development of a 500W reactor is amazing. Can you tell us, is the actual reactor larger, or do you get the gain from efficiency in managing the existing reactor
Craig Dunn:
Without that “calvary”, as you dub it, I wouldn’t be where I am now. Thank you for your support,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Svein:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
If one or more 22kV units of 1MW can serve a new data center without the need for access to electrical energy from the existing network, there is a very lucrative and pressing market here.
Is such use a clear opportunity?
This alone would be reason enough for your licensees to primarily focus on 22kV units in all countries, as there is a shortage of both available electrical energy and the necessary distribution networks everywhere.
Applications to the authorities for such critical permits would thus be avoided.
Regards Svein
Dr Rossi,
I read on http://www.ingandrearossi.com how you passed through your calvary. It’s quite moving.
All the best,
Craig
Steve D:
1. Wh/h out/Wh/h in
2. see point 1
3. W = A x V, therefore being W constant, V is a function of A and viceversa
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stephen:
1. yes
2. see point 1
3. it is still a process on course
4. we’ll see
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Manuel Cilia:
The situation is more complex,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
DrLG:
1. Wh/h out/Wh/h in
2. please see the datasheet
3. correct
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi
1) What formula do you use to calculate COP.
2) Based on this formula, what is the COP of the 10W base unit?
3) Assuming my understanding that the current theory of how the ECAT works is that energy is transferred from the “ZPE field” to, for lack of a better term, “our world”, shouldn’t this energy input be considered in the COP calculation, in which case the COP is probably less than unity?
Best Regards, LarryG
Dear Dr Rossi
Could you please clarify whether when you talk about 22Kv output are the Ecat cells wired in series adding up to 22Kv DC or are they connected in series them say up to 1Kv dc and then putting it via a DC to AC inverter with 600Vac output then stepping up via a tranformer to 22kV AC.
This is very common with Solar PV, this would allow the system to be grid compatible without further testing if PV inverters are used.
Dear Andrea Rossi
It’s very exciting news to hear that the 500 W unit is progressing well and already under testing I presume.
May I ask a few related questions.
1. Is this unit based in a single reactor core?
2. Or an assembly of reactors or subunits?
3. In either case I suppose that this improvement is a result of some previous limiting factor now being resolved or worked around in away that is allowing it to fulfill its potential, is this the case?
4. Are you also considering going larger still? Or will you stick with the 500W units?
Anyway it sounds like positive news and I’m looking forward to hearing how it goes.
Best Regards
Stephen
Dear Andrea Rossi
How is COP measured?
1) P out/ P in?
2) An internal measurement of P out/ P ecat where P total = P out + P ecat?
3) The 10W reactor is the reference where by increased voltages achieve increased power out exceeding 10W?
Ambrogio:
Yes, remarkably,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
This information does not depend on me: I am not responsible of the production,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Now that you are on the Production stage, can you share how many MWs of units were ordered under the pre-order sales from individuals like me?
Dr Rossi,
Is the COP higher when the output of the Ecat is at 20/22 kV vs. 12/24, or 110/230 V ?
Best,
Ambrogio
Tommek:
A = W/V
For the rest, see the datasheet in
http://www.ecat.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Can they tell what current the reactor “generates” directly before it leaves the output of the module (10W/12V)?
So before the electronics in the module bring him up to these values.
1.V.
2.A.
3.Hz.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. DC or AC
2. It will be possible
3. no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rick 57:
Not yet, it is still at a prototypical shape,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tommek:
This issue does not depend on me,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Italo R. :
No. It is a module of assemblies to supply intermediate power lines stations,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mats Heijkenskjold:
Either
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
500W module
Voltage is it really 20 000V AC or DC?
Best regards
Dr. Rossi,
The new 500-watt module has amazing features! 20 kV at 25 mA.
I assume this voltage is already AC, ready to be connected to the grid and, of course, perfectly synchronized. Is that correct?
Best regards
Italo R.
Hello Andrea,
You’re talking about deliveries… do you mean the devices to the private customer or the devices for the licensee for the intermediate power plants? Or both… I know it no longer depends on them, but I think their loyal following would be very happy for the long-standing patience. For me personally, it’s been almost 15 years now. Please put in a good word for us, with your licensees.
Thank you and have a nice weekend
Tommek
Dear Andrea,
can you tell us also the dimensions of the 500W unit ?
Thanks a lot and good luck for this new design.
Riccardo
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Thank you for your response on the 500W Power Units.
Questions:
1. The has an output Voltage of 20,000 Volts. Is that DC?
2. Is a variant of the 500W Power unit possible at 12VDC, 60VDC, or 120VDC?
3. Does the 20,000V 500W Power Unit directly produce Grid ready power (Grid Intermediate Voltage and synchronized to Grid frequency and phase)?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. yes
2. 20,000
3. A = W/V
4. 15
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Arnab Saha:
It does not depend on me, but I think the deliveries will start this year,
Warm Regards,
A.R.