Integral charge 3 quark bound system with binding energy

by
U.V.S. Seshavatharam
DIP QA Engineer, Lanco Industries Ltd, Srikalahasti-517641, A.P, India
E-mail: seshavatharam.uvs@gmail.com

Prof. S. LAKSHMINARAYANA
Department Of Nuclear Physics, Andhra University, Vizag-530003, AP, India.
E-mail: lnsrirama@yahoo.com


Abstract
In the previous paper [1] it is suggested that there exists integral charge effective quark fermi-gluons and quark boso-gluons.
Effective quark fermi-gluons generates charged ground state baryons and quark boso-gluons generates ground state neutral mesons.
In this paper it is suggested that with a binding energy of 939 MeV any 3 (effective) quark fermi-gluons couples together to form a charged ground state baryon.
Square root of any 2 quark fermi-gluons or cubic root of any 3 quark fermi-gluons can be called as `hybrid’ quark fermi-gluons.
Hybrid quark fermi-gluons of up and down are 746 MeV, 779 MeV and 813 MeV. Out of 6 quark fermi-gluons, for a three quark bound system (with binding energy 939 MeV) different combinations of quark fermi-gluons and hybrid quark fermi-gluons can be possible and hence different ground state baryons can be generated with different quark flavors.
If n=1, 2, 3,.. excited energy levels follows

X sum of 3 quark fermi-gluons rest energy.
Another interesting thing is that light quark bosons like up boson mass=1.94 MeV and down boson mass=4.2 MeV couples with these ground or excited states to form doublets and triplets.
3 up quark fermi-gluons having rest energy 3×685 MeV and binding energy 939 MeV generates a ground state charged baryon of rest energy (3×685)-939≈1116MeV.
Up boson mass =1.94 MeV couples with this charged state and generates a neutral baryon at 1118 MeV.
Two up and one down quark fermi-gluons having binding energy 939 MeV generates charged (2×685+885)-939≈1316MeV .
One up and two down quark fermi-gluons having binding enegy 939 MeV generates charged (685+2×885)-939 1516MeV.
Thus 1177 MeV and 1377 MeV ground state charged baryons can be generated.
This idea can be applied to other heavy quark fermi-gluons.

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256 comments to Integral charge 3 quark bound system with binding energy

  • Italo R.

    Gentile dr. Rossi, circa 600 mila preordini sono un’ottima quantità considerando il silenzio dei media sull’E-Cat.
    Io ho fatto il mio preordine molti mesi fa. Mi piacerebbe sapere il mio posizionamento in tale lista, perché come dice il proverbio, chi primo arriva prima compra…
    Ma non perda tempo per questa mia richiesta, lei ha certo di meglio da fare.
    Ritengo che quando l’E-Cat domestico entrerà finalmente sul mercato, ci saranno apparecchi per tutti in poco tempo…
    Cordiali saluti,
    Italo R.

  • Matias Mattsson


    Andrea Rossi
    July 15th, 2012 at 1:56 AM

    Dear Frank Acland:
    You are right: I said so before the certification process; the certificator demands that the refuel is made by a certified operator.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.”

    How can one be an Certified E-cat Operator?
    6 months after the E-cat is released, their will be some demand for a certified Operators 🙂

  • Joe

    Dr Rossi,

    Does the certification agency also demand that batteries that we all use in our daily lives be replaced by professionals since cadmium is a toxin? I am just curious.

    All the best,
    Joe

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Robert Curto:
    About 600 000.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Franco:
    As I said, we explain this stuff in a report.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Frank Acland:
    You are right: I said so before the certification process; the certificator demands that the refuel is made by a certified operator.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Bill Nichols:
    Thanks for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear K.D.:
    You are right, but there are schools where you can learn specific skills: I return to the wrong models we are giving to the youths. You are definitely right for old unemployed People.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Italo R.

    An application that many people haven’t yet tought:
    LENR could extract water from the atmosphere cheaply.
    Very interestig:

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/07/extracting-water-from-the-atmosphere-with-lenr/

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    ERRATA:

    In my last post, where it is written:

    Look at the figure 6.3-B (structure of 3Li7):
    The flux n(o) has a diameter in order between 6fm and 7fm.

    please read:

    Look at the figure 4.2 (structure of 3Li7):
    The flux n(o) has a RADIUS in order between 6fm and 7fm.

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Joseph Fine wrote in July 13th, 2012 at 1:21 PM
    Wladimir Guglinski, Andrea Rossi:

    The Beryllium Nucleus is not built up from a single Helium Nucleus (2He4) and two deuterons (1H2). That adds up to 4Be8, not 4Be9. Rather, there are TWO Helium nuclei and a single neutron.

    Dear Joseph
    a beryllium nucleus 4Be8 formed by two clusters of nucleons, each resembling a helium-4 nucleus, cannot have a spherical distribution of charges. Its distribution of the charges will be rectilinear.

    As the 4Be8 has null electric quadrupole momentum (measured by experiments), there is no way to explain the structure of 4Be8 from the principles of current Nuclear Physics, which requires a SPHERICAL distribution of charges, so that to make possible 4Be8 to have null electric quadrupole momentum.

    In the case of 4Be9 and 4Be10, the neutrons will be at a distance of 7fm from the central cluster.
    So, there is no way to explain their structure from the principles of Nuclear Physics, since the range of strong force is 2fm.

    Look the structure of 4Be8 predicted in Quantum Ring Theory, in the figure 6.2:
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:_New_nuclear_model_of_Quantum_Ring_Theory_corroborated_by_John_Arrington%E2%80%99s_experiment

    You see that there is a central 2He4, and two deuterons close to it.
    Looking at the figure, you can note that the two deuterons (as they are surrounding the central 2He4) can be interpreted by John Arrington as another cluster formed by another 2He4.

    If you put one more neutron in that structure of 4Be8 of figure 6.2, you get the 4Be9.
    And note that the neutron will be captured by the flux n(o) of the central 2He4, and such neutron will take a position with distance 7fm from the central 2He4 (within the nuclei, neutrons are submitted to repulsion, and so the neutron takes an opposite position regarding to the two nucleons 1H2).

    Look at the figure 6.3-B (structure of 3Li7):
    The flux n(o) has a diameter in order between 6fm and 7fm.

    regards
    WLAD

  • K. D.

    >> For example, near Ferrara there is an industry which is searching since 6 months a worker for the reparation of oleodynamic pistons, nobody comes out.

    But Mr. Rossi, nobody comes out because employer want experienced worker.

    The other thing is. Since lot of peoples are loosing job after one, two or three years of work, because of slow down in business or bankruptcy or other reasons of closing of business the worker have no experience in other offered jobs.
    Mostly employers don’t want waste time to train new employee.

  • K. D.

    Mr.Frank Acland

    ……recharging of the fuel for the domestic E-Cat would be done by an approved contractor…- might depend not only from Rossi, but also from the level of government bureaucracy and corruption existing in some countries.

    It might be, that not only must be installed by mechanic from approved contractor, but in presents of some inspector from controlling agency. :))

  • Bill Nichols

    Dear Andrea Rossi…

    Your comments to Stefano are right on target, and EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!

    Maintain this is more important then the E-Cat because history shows character and values supersedes any technology.

    Its critical to understand the following…

    Remember, our financial system is the result of Governments and laws they have created. The banks are more of an symptom of the environment created by governments that push growth…or money and power.

    We must all realize all World Governments have made promises they can’t keep (its that bad) because it conflicts with nature.

    This financial crisis is JUST BEGINNING due to…

    1,) Fiat Currencies.

    2.) Fractional Reserve Lending. Over leveraging encouraged that can’t be maintained due to it assumes INFINITE GROWTH in a FINITE WORLD

    3.) Exponential Growth. Can’t solve debt with more debt…this is a lesson we’ve ignored from several thousands of years of history and stated all world cultures.

    4.) Net Present Value. All future pensions and benefits assume a certain rate of return that is beyond the capabilities of nature, specifically because it promotes wrong human behavior.

    Freedom always has been, and will be BOTTOM UP (We the People)…its never free…it a like a plant but it must be watered, more specifically, continuous earned through our morals, or the plant (freedom) will die .

    As a long time US Government worker, I’ve learned one thing…governments always try to serve themselves…not the people. History has always shows this.

    The people of all the world’s governments must realize they aren’t the problem, the world governments must start rewarding results and fix failures through real transparency and accountability.

    I was involved in project in this area almost 25 years ago who suggested this would happen. What was done…nothing.

    Andrea, please consider these things, as this message is as important (more?) as the E-CAT for producing a better world for all.

    I’m passionate about this because I’ve seen this over and over again with several high level government programs, and I care about the future of the younger generations.

    I hope we can agree, as the E-CAT can’t solve this. We must (all of us).

    Thank You,

    Kind Regards,

    Bill Nichols

  • Frank Acland

    Dear Andrea,

    In the recent interview you held with Free Energy Systems you mentioned that the recharging of the fuel for the domestic E-Cat would be done by an approved contractor. In the past you have said that the consumer could replace their own fuel cartridges. Will this still be possible? Charges for service calls can be quite high, as you know — and if the recharge is as simple as changing the refill in a pen, it should not be a problem for most users.

    Best wishes,

    Frank Acland

  • Franco

    Dear Ing Rossi,

    Hank Mills wrote:
    Rossi has stated these reactors produce 10kW of power at over 600C (utilizing isoperibolic calorimetry which will help prevent the cynics from claiming stupid things like the steam not being dry or flow rates not being correct)

    Do you confirm that Isoperibolic Calorimetry has been used to test new E-Cat version at 600°C (the Hot-Cat) and to estimate with great accuracy the heat produced?

    Kind Regards

  • Robert Curto

    Dear Dr. Rossi, could you please tell us the number of pre orders you have for the E-Cat ?
    I think your readers would like to know…..I know I would !

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Bernie Koppenhofer:
    I agree,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Koen Vandevalle:
    Thanks,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Andrea,
    “War without guns”.
    Makes E-cat a nuclear weapon.
    And all the snakes ennemies of the state.
    We should make logs of their writings.
    Better be friends with the guy wit the best weaponry:-)
    Very very very friendly regards Mister Rossi.
    Koen

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Mr. Rossi,Hank Mills,Nixter,orsobubu

    Along with the E-Cat revolution we need to elect enlightened leaders, us old codgers need to get our young people interested in electing those leaders.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Hank Mills:
    Thank you for your insight,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Hank Mills

    Hello Andrea,

    That is a very well thought out explanation of the current employment situation. One note that I would like to mention is that according to a chart I looked at some time ago, inflation has increased the cost of every good and service in the USA by approximately 300%, over the past thirty or forty years. However, the average hourly wage (including everyone from doctors to clerks at grocery stores) has went down from a high of about $20 dollars an hour in the 70’s, to about $17 or so now. It was far easier for someone in the 1970’s to make a living that it is today.

    In other words, to have the purchasing power and lifestyle of someone in 1975 that had an income of lets say $25,000 a year, you would now have to make $75,000 a year or more. Or, someone that currently makes only $30,000 dollars today, really only has the purchasing power of someone making $10,000 or less a year in 1975. These are rough figures, but I can get you exact ones if you would like.

    This is one reason why there has been a decline in family values, and families in which both parents have to work full-time jobs. There are an abundance of low paying (close to minimum wage) jobs in the United States — at least in my area — but there are far fewer *good* paying jobs. People have to struggle (sometimes working two low paying jobs at one time) just to have LESS purchasing power than their parents did at the same time in their life.

    As an example of how hard it can be to survive these days, in the 1970’s my mother (before she met my father) moved from her home in Virginia to the state we currently reside in. She found a small apartment that only cost her 30 dollars a week. That’s right, 30 dollars a week for a total of only 120 dollars a month. With her puny little part-time job she was able to afford this apartment (that had all utilities included) plus food and living expenses. She was not living “high on the hog”, but was able to “make it” without struggling too insanely hard.

    Now in the same area a basic one bedroom apartment can cost from 500 dollars a month (in a very crime ridden area) to 1,000 dollars a month in a safer/nicer area, without utilities being included in the price. I would say it is almost impossible for someone working full time on a minimum wage job to pay for a decent apartment, utilities, food, transportation, and the basic necessities of life.

    Basically, I think more people in the USA would be excited about applying for “hard” physically demanding jobs if they thought they would be able to “make it” at the starting wage. The idea of working really, really hard to just barely survive (perhaps having to live in a slum) is not appealing to some people. Those who do work extremely hard to barely survive often have to also rely on food stamps, welfare, and other forms of social assistance.

    One reason I am excited about the E-Cat technology is I hope extremely cheap energy (that does not pollute and will not run out) could reduce the price of all good and services, and increase the wages that are paid to workers.

    I would like to imagine a day when a hard working man could have a single full-time job (even if it was a dishwasher in a busy restaurant) and know he would be able to provide a comfortable life for a potential wife and child.

    If we are very lucky, perhaps due to the E-Cat technology wages will eventually go higher and the prices will go lower than they were in the 1970s. I think such a situation could provide an amazing change to society. For one thing, I think there would be less depression, because people would know that hard work (even in a basic job) would allow for a decent lifestyle — above the poverty line.

    When I have said your technology has the potential to change everything, I sincerely mean it. I think it may be the most significant development to happen in the past hundred years. Not only when it comes to geo-politics and the energy crisis, but even when it involves the personal economic situation of ordinary people trying to make a living.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Stefano Cicchiello:
    My comment is this: complaints are useless. We have to return to the enthusiasm of working, whatever the work we do, we have to recovery the enthusiasm to be enterpreneurs and we have to understand that a work can be paid only if it is productive. We have to make jobs, not wait that Santa Claus gives us easy guaranteed jobs and money for free. We must feel the anxiety of the productive result. Our fathers did conquer the status we are losing because they worked more productively than we do. They made industries, we make speculations ( from the latin “speculum”, mirror which reproduces falsely images from a real image, giving the illusion that the reflected images are real). We are in competition ( and competition means war without guns) with Peoples who work more than we do, therefore we are losing. To win we have to work more and better than them. All the rest is useless chattering.
    We gotta work, possibly not to sharpen the tops to the Pyramids.
    About the jobless persons: I understand the desperation of old persons, but for the youngs there are job positions free for the simple reason that are jobs where you have to work really and with fatigue. For example, near Ferrara there is an industry which is searching since 6 months a worker for the reparation of oleodynamic pistons, nobody comes out. If you offer a job where a guy has to seat down all the day in front of a computer doing things that are not very difficult and tiring, ten thousands persons will come up competing for ten jobs…isn’t this wrong? If you really want to work there is work to do (real work). We are giving to young People wrong models. That’s my opinion, I don’t know how it is worth, though.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • orsobubu

    Nixter, I have to dismiss some of your points:

    – under capitalistic conditions, on the long run, economic prosperity is not due to productivity, energy costs, etc, but to surplus value extracted from underpayed wage workers (your “middle class”); to the contrary, if cutting energy costs will bring up productivity in america, worked hours (and surplus value) will be cutted too (industry linked to carbons requires far more workers, infrastructures, etc than “green energy”) so surplus value and profits will decline accordingly. Also, this will raise competitivity for US, but competitors will recover shortly, bringing down general production costs thanks to robotization, optimization and so on, with less workers, less worked hours, less profits, less capitals and a general deflationary effect. See Marx’s Capital for the details.

    – in a capitalistic production system, economic prosperity is not due to technology, energy revolutions and so on, but to capacity to put men at work and extract surplus value under exploitation conditions. So, economic prosperity is more a social, class relationship than a technologic/ecologic/resources issue; in the end your statement about military involvement in the project is the real point, because strong armies guarantee the possibility a country could export capitals and expand its markets and strategic influence sphere in a deflationary economic environment (see past world wars)

    – e-cat and other breakthroughing technologies will be a giant step forward for the entire planet only under the condition that they will come hand in hand with a social revolution that carries mankind further the current capitalistic contradictions, for which boosting productivity causes even increasing goods that people cannot afford anymore because its wage work is no more required on the market

  • Stefano Cichiello

    Dear Andrea Rossi
    I apoligize that i am doing out of thread with this comment , but i am interested ina comment of yours about the financial crisis in the eurozone , and the consequantial destruction of the welfare state, acquired with the social struggles by our father and grandfathers .
    Iwould appreciate a lot your comment on this topic , thank you very much
    Warm regards , and good work
    SC

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Robert Curto: Thanks for you post. China….a market waiting for the E-Cat! If the US and the West does not accept LENR and build LENR plants and research facilities, China will become the leader in LENR production! Our leaders better wake up, fast. Chinese leaders will not wait on bureaucrats in certification or patent offices before launching their LENR industry.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Dr Joseph Fine:
    Thank you, as usual.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Joseph Fine

    Wladimir Guglinski, Andrea Rossi:

    The Beryllium Nucleus is not built up from a single Helium Nucleus (2He4) and two deuterons (1H2). That adds up to 4Be8, not 4Be9. Rather, there are TWO Helium nuclei and a single neutron. Hope this is helpful. I make typos and mistakes myself.

    ( I once thought I made a mistake, but I was wrong.) 🙂

    http://phys.org/news/2012-03-picture-atomic-nucleus-emerges.html

    Hope you can bring light to the darkness.

    Best regards,

    Joseph

  • Dear Wladimir, Regards ‘The Boson of Higgs and the Rupture of the Physics’. What an excellent article. You have put the problem of physics in a nut shell and your prediction with regards the future of physics I believe to be spot on. What you are sying is that Orthodox verses Progressive with regards to human activity and physics is no exception to the norm. Unfortunately, the orthodox mind with regards to modern day physics is supported upon financial platforms to which our present day orthodox minds heavily rely. With limited finance the task is difficuklt but as we know it’s not impoosible because intelligence will always triumph over consciousness. Best regards, Eric Ashworth

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Robert Curto,
    Thanks for the info.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Robert Curto

    Dr. Rossi, I hope the link below works.
    This article is old, but I love it.
    I also hope you have time to read it.
    They are still working on the Pebble Bed Reactor today.

    I was interested in the Pebbles, made with a ceramic layer of silicon carbide.
    I was wondering if it was needed in E-Cat ?
    Or is this more protection then E-Cat needs ?

    As you know, China is a HUGE market for E-Cat.
    I think they would love to have a Manutacturing Plant.

    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/china.html?pg=1&topic=china&topic_set=

    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    USA

  • Nixter

    Engineer Andrea Rossi,

    The September 2012 release of an E-Cat Report will mark a new and exciting chapter in our existence, I suspect that it will be of great interest to everyone, everywhere. After your 2011 October E-Cat demonstration, skeptics said they needed much more precise technical data, this new report should finally satisfy their requirements for accurate technical information. It will probably trigger a positive worldwide response if it is found to be credible and legitimate by the ever curious scientific, physics community.

    Internet based reports recently mentioned an upcoming 60 Minutes episode that turned out to be a repeat broadcast of a 2009 episode. Do you have any other information regarding mass media organizations seeking to document your invention?

    You have mentioned before, that you sometimes work with Military scientists, I see this as a win-win situation, you get helpful technical advice, and we get a tremendous boost in manufacturing demand and capacity in exchange for access to your technology, this seems to be an alliance that will benefit everyone in the long run. The US Military is one of the largest hydrocarbon energy users in the world, helping them convert to clean, non polluting E-Cat technology will be a giant step forward for the entire planet.

    I totally agree with your plan to get Americans back to work, factories will be profitable again as energy costs go down, and the middle class will thrive and grow wealthy once again. This current economic downturn we find ourselves in will be ended with an energy revolution, a revolution powered by Leonardo Corporations E-Cat.

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Harold, Koen:
    Thank you!
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Harold

    Mr. Rossi says “2- WE HAVE IMPORTANT NEWS ON THEIR WAY.”
    I say; Patience is a virtue!

    By the way, Mr. Koen Vandewalle, thank you (from NL) for the wise words in your latest reply!

    Kind regards,
    Harold

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    THE BOSON OF HIGGS AND THE RUPTURE OF THE PHYSICS

    In the beginning of July-2012 the community of physicists with great triumph has announced the detection of the boson of Higgs.

    But is it indeed a great triumph ?

    Let’s analyse it.

    1- The community of physicists purposely forgot the failure regarding the Supersymmetry. However the great triumph of the current Modern Physics would be the confirmation of the existence of the boson of Higgs and the existence of supersymmetric particles predicted in Susy.

    2- In the begginning of the 20th Century the physicist Yukawa proposed the existence of the meson, which would mediate the interaction between two protons. That was the Yukawa model of the neutron.
    Today we know that Yukawa theory is wrong. Today we know that the meson does NOT mediate the interaction between two protons.
    But in spite of Yukawa model of neutron is wrong, and in spite of the meson does not mediate the interaction between two protons, the meson exists, and it was detected by experiments.
    So, due to a coincidence, Yukawa predicted by a wrong way the existence of a particle.

    Can we extract a lesson from such a “coincidence”, so that to apply it to the discovery of the boson of Higgs?
    I think the answer is yes.

    First of all because, in spite of theYukawa theory was wrong, his idea of interaction (according to which a particle mediates the interaction between two other particles) was kept in the Theoretical Physics.
    Therefore, in spite of his idea of a meson mediating the interaction between two protons was wrong, such idea was kept in Physics.

    3- The boson of Higgs is not detected directly. Its supposed existence is “suggested” via detection of two bosons W. As the theory predicts that the Higgs boson decays in two W bosons, then the detection of the bosons W is considered the confirmation of the Higgs boson.
    Then let’s analyse the situation:

    3.1 – According to the current Particle Physics, the boson W mediates the neutron decay, via weak force. The emission or absorption of a W boson can change the type of the particle – for example changing a strange quark into an up quark.

    3.2 – But the Don Borghi experiment has shown that the neutron is formed by proton+electron. Therefore, probably the boson W actually does NOT mediate the neutron decay..

    3.3- Actually probably the boson W is simply created and emitted (via weak interaction between the proton and the electron) in the instant when the electron leaves its interaction with the proton, in the neutron decay. And because the boson W is created via the weak interaction, this is the reason why it was possible to calculate and predict with good accuracy the mass of the boson W, by taking in consideration the rules of interaction according to the Standard Model.

    3.4 – Therefore the production of the boson W in the LHC does NOT imply the existence of the Higgs boson.
    Such conclusion that the boson W does not imply the existence of the Higgs boson actually we infer from the Don Borghi experiment. And so it’s easy to understand why the community of physicists NEVER tried to confirm his experiment.

    3.5 – The experiments in the LHC detected the supposed existence of the Higgs boson not via the production of the boson W. Instead of, they found a “supposed” boson of Higgs with mass 125 GeV via its decay in other particles, as gamma rays or leptons.

    3.6 – The LHC is working at present days with half of its capacity. And suppose that in 2014 it will be working with its full capacity, and Higgs bosons will be supposedly detected with mass different of 125 GeV. Then what will be the actual mass of the Higgs boson?

    3.7 – Obviously the Higgs boson cannot have two different masses. And suppose they detect another boson, with mass 170 GeV. Then we have to ponder the following: “Well, as there is another boson with mass 170 GeV, this means that perhaps those two bosons with masses 125 GeV and 170 GeV (not predicted in the Standard Model), ARE NOT the Higgs boson, and they do NOT mediate the interactions responsible for the mass of particles“.

    3.8 – Here we have to remember the lesson left to us by the Yukawa theory. When the meson was detected by the experiments in 1947, the community of physicists had celebrated that discovery as the confirmation that the meson mediates the interaction between protons. Today we know that Yukawa’s theory was wrong, and the discovery of the meson was a “coincidence”.

    Other point to be considered is the fact that the community of physicists are obsessed with the discovery of the Higgs boson, and they neglect to consider other experiments that point out us that the current theories of Modern Physics are wrong.

    One among several other examples of experiments which defy the prevailing theories is the experiment made by John Arrington, published in March-2012. His experiment showed that the structure of the nucleus of beryllium does not fit to the prevailing principles of current Nuclear Physics, according to which the aggregation of protons and neutrons within the nuclei is due to the strong force, which actuates in the maximum distance of about 2fm. But in the structure of beryllium detected by Arrington there is a distance of 7fm between the central 2He4 and the two nucleons of deuterium 1H2 (the two nucleons 1H2 and the central 2He4 are distributed along a rectilinear line, see the link bellow)
    http://www.inovacaotecnologica.com.br/noticias/noticia.php?artigo=nova-imagem-nucleo-atomo&id=010115120324

    In another words: it’s IMPOSSIBLE to explain that structure of beryllium by considering the principles of the current Nuclear Physics, because:

    1- The strong force cannot keep the 1H2 within the beryllium nucleus. Therefore the strong force cannot be responsible for the agglutination of the nuclei, as considered in current Nuclear Physics.

    2- Suppose that the nuclear theorists succeed to develop a theory according to which it’s possible to explain that structure detected by Arrington’s experiment, by taking in consideration the strong force (this is just what John Arrington is trying to do).

    3- However, the experiments that measure the nuclear properties of nuclei have detected that beryllium has a null electric quadrupole moment Q(b). But Q(b)=0 requires a spherical distribution of charges, according to current Nuclear Physics. Nevertheless, that structure shown in the link above has NOT a spherical distribution of charges (unlike, the charges are distributed along a rectilinear line).
    Therefore it’s IMPOSSIBLE to explain why beryllium has Q(b)=0 , detected in experiments, while from current Nuclear Physics that rectilinear distribution of charges in the beryllium requires Q(b) different from zero.

    4- Conclusion: even if the nuclear theorists succeed to explain how the nucleons 1H2 and 2He4 have a distance of 7fm by considering the strong force interaction, however it’s IMPOSSIBLE, from the nuclear models of the theory to explain why beryllium has null Q(b).
    Therefore it is not possible to explain the beryllium structure, detected in Arrington’s experiment, from the principles of current Nuclear Physics.

    As we realize, something very serious is happening with current theories of Physics. But the community of physicists, instead of starting to take seriously the so many experiments which are defying the current theories, they simply reject to consider those experiments, and they keep themselves in their obsessive attempt to prove the existence of the Higgs Boson.

    And what is the future of Physics, face to such situation?

    Well, probably we will have a rupture in Physics, as follows:
    1- The current community of physicists will continue in their obsession with the Higgs boson, believing that the Standard Model is entirely correct, and they will continue neglecting the new experiments which require a New Physics.
    2- But a new generation of physicists will realize that they cannot continue in this way neglecting the new experiments, and they will form a new community, so that to find a new theory able to be fit to the new experimental discoveries.

    Unfortunatelly, such process of rupture in the Physics may cause a delay in the advancement of Theoretical Physics. The obsession with the Higgs boson can stop the advancement of Physics along decades, so that the beginning of the development of the New Physics may have to wait for a long time

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear AVI:
    We cannot know.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Koen Vandewalle

    Dear Enrico Billi,
    It is indeed somewhat frustrating to read such statement documents that are coming from institutes we consider the guardians, leaders and managers of our modern society. Everything that is written seems to be true to me, but by omitting an essential wheel, the rolling wagon is driven towards the swamp of waiting and endless research.
    Pd-D fusion (as presented) is as fireworks compared to the continuous space-rocket operation of Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat. The graphs even seem to be chosen to influence the fast-reading decision maker in a way it intuitively explains as a “pulsating” “one-shot” result of CF, with a long and slow build-up before the event happens. Saying: it is an amazing firework, but you can’t heat a cup of tea with it, and if you scale up, it will burn your house.
    What this document speculates is that if enough research is financed in fireworks: in every of the three disciplines of paper-production(the mantle), gun-powder production(the propulsion and the charge) and ballistics(aiming at targets), there might be a chance we ever – always in the future – will go to a new, better planet with it.
    To be honest: the document does not lie ! It says that if the principles are better understood, then “other materials” can be used to optimize it. So thanks to the editors for their honesty and keeping their life-line intact.
    Now I will go a little too far, but so be it, it espresses my feelings on this very single moment: In their time, Pons and Fleischmann were called frauds and liars, and their theories were “scientifically, peer-reviewed” considered as nonsense. The facts did not matter. Now, since the facts DO matter, and become “incontournable”, the safe exit and a tricky way to block the further diffusion of Cold Fusion is to reference to these ancient (but wrong or incomplete) theories – with some theatrical mea-culpa – and try to orient all the available resources towards these theories (the swamp is their target). That is one way of view. Another may be that they are desperate: de patents on Ni-H are pending, the results are proven, and maybe there could be a residual but “free” (as in free-speech) goldmine in the Pd-D processes. Nevertheless, the (proven, as you know) results of Andrea Rossi seem to be an insult on the credibility and honor of some scientists in many ways. Not the whole world is money. There is also some prestige. Without one of these two sauces, the taste is gone out of the succes of Cold Fusion. Only power or supremacy could be a good motivator, but with cheap and abundant (and simple) energy sources, this is unlikely to happen.
    So a lot of reports and publications that are going to appear on cold fusion and LENR next hours, days, weeks and months, and that come from “major” scientific “authorities” will have these misleading patterns in them.
    You know, I’m very sceptic on sceptically evaluated scepticism. But auto-sceptic intuition is by far the best guide.
    Best Regards,
    Koen.

  • avi

    Hello
    How time you estimate it will take to the certifications for the domestic ecats?
    And when it will be possible to order one of these?

    Thanks

  • Enrico Billi

    The European Commission release a document about “Materials for Emerging Energy Technologies”. There is a section about “Low Energy Nuclear Reactions in Condensed Matter”, but there is no mention of the Nickel Hydrogen systems. The Ni+H reactions have been studied since 1989 by Focardi and the heat produced is much more than D+D in Palladium based on the scietific pubblications of the Bologna physicist.
    May be e-cat is not condidered “emerging” because is ALREADY in the market thanks to Andrea Rossi…
    LavolaLe LavolaLe!
    Enrico Billi

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Giuliano Bettini:
    He,he,he…thank you,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • giuliano bettini

    Dear Andrea Rossi
    “Nor to remove stains from jaguars”, I presume.
    I say this having followed the recent news of hard work and resulting report.
    Many thanks
    Giuliano Bettini

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear Hank Mills:
    Please, be kind: wait the report. Now I can say nothing. All I can say is:
    1- WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD AND NOT TO DISPLACE AIR WITH THE ARMS AND THE TONGUE (Italian: “Non siamo mica qui per fare le punte alle Piramidi”)
    2- WE HAVE IMPORTANT NEWS ON THEIR WAY.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    At some point, very soon, our society will have to balance dotting the “i’s” and crossing the “t’s” in a certification process for LENR and saving our planet. Maybe that is why we elect leaders?

  • Hank Mills

    Hello Andrea,

    You have mentioned here on the Journal of Nuclear Physics that multiple parties are validating the E-Cat, which indicates at least one additional party in addition to your military customer/partner. Also, National Instruments have stated that they are supporting Dr. Levi and providing him with equipment for cold fusion (LENR) research at the University of Bologna. I saw a suggestion on an Italian forum (via google translate) that he may be working to test and validate the new high temperature E-Cat. Could he be issuing a report to go along with the one provided by your military customer?

    Thanks,
    Hank

  • Andrea Rossi

    Dear P.G. Sharrow:
    For the domestic we have to wait the certification, which will take more timee.
    Warm regards
    A.R.

  • Guru Gurovic

    Which strategy will bring more E-Cats to whole world at fastest speed and gain more profit for Mr. Rossi too ?

    A) One year buil one robotized facility, after success with some bank credit build second facility during second year and with success build another 2-3 facilities in other continents etc.
    This is way of First Solar (soon bankrupt company)

    b) Build one “muster” robotized facility. After success sell 140 licenses to 140 big manufacturers in 70 countries for 20 million USD per license.
    Plus some 3.50 USD royalties per one produced piece.
    This is way as 140 facilities within one year may produce 150-300 million E-Cats per year (absolutely needing for humanity real progress).
    Jobs will created everywhere, Mr. Rossi in Forbes Billionaire list next year.

    Where is problem ?

  • Ivan

    Dear MR Rossi, I do not belive you need to produce electricity, you just have to concentrate in one thing, and is to produce heat!, there is uncountable number of engineers that could use the heat to produce electricity and other things, The sun does not produce electricity just heat, the same for fission reactors. please let other people do what they know best, and please just produce the home e-cat that could produce heat. I really want to buy one.
    How old are we???? lets enjoy life now, meanwhile we can!!!!!
    As time is the real master of our lifes….
    Kind Regards.
    Ivan.

  • Andrea Rossi says;”An Intellectual Property Owner without a manufacturing system is like a General without an Army: can’t win any war, whatever the strategy.”
    I agree whole heartedly, Very good strategic thinking sir.
    I am looking forward to the installation of an Ecat water heater in my greenhouse as soon as possible, maybe this winter? pg

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