Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I think your most important achievement is not the Ecat SKL, but the immense mass of R&D that your work unleashed in the world in the field of the LENR and other anomalous energy generation systems. It is unbelievable the attention that has been put on your paper http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
that is the most read physics paper of the last 18 months.
All the best wishes for the tests you have on course,
Calvin
For your information, the “million mile battery” to which Chuck Davis refers, has to do with its ability to endure enough charge/discharge cycles to allow the vehicle in which it is installed to travel a million miles in its useful life. It does not refer to its range.
Tesla is hosting a “Battery Day” on the 22nd of this month and is widely expected to announce a “million mile battery” at that time. Of course an SKL powered Tesla would be a much more important announcement. September should be a historic month for Tesla and Leonardo!
Frank Acland:
Brice himself has put a question mark after the 7(b) solution. He made a wide spectrum of possible events that are imaginary, hypothesizing solutions that can be right or wrong. Obviously the situations that will emerge will have to be resolved on the base of the specific parameters. He just wanted to warn about possible situations, not fix solutions, just making hypothesis. The hypothesis all have dignity of attention.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, If the reliability issue involves unscheduled shutdown of the reaction there are many applications where this issue could be resolved with a combination of Tesla’s million mile battery and the ecat where the battery size would be a function of the applicable load and the worst case duration of a shutdown. In this scenario the battery serves as a buffer which would supply the necessary power while the reaction resumes operation. I feel confident that all of the readers are on the edge of their seats in anticipation of the upcoming tests as I am!
Brice, in a recent comment, has suggested a wide range of possible reliability issues that could affect the SKL. Can you identify which of his concerns are realistic?
For example, with his point 7(b), I can’t imagine having to take the SKL out of an electric vehicle and shake it as a way to recover from a failure.
With the advent of testing for the 95:5 SKL and subsequent introduction to the world, I have been thinking about various applications for your tremendous innovation. In this context, I wondered how much noise the SKL generates when in operation. Could you address this, both with and without the cooling system.
Best wishes on the eminent third-party tests. If you can at least confirm when they are underway, many who follow your progress would be grateful.
I personally think that the interest in the SKL will be enormous even when the reliability is not guaranteed for 100% of the time. When an electric car can extend its range virtually limitless in even less than 80% of the cases, I think that many people, certainly early adopters, will still be very happy to have such a great opportunity. But it will depend on what ‘reliability’ means here. Here in case of an electric car what are the possible reliability issues of the SKL:
1. The skl needs some restarts and gives you a small delay (like starting a car in winter time).
2. There are some small fluctuations of energy output, which you are not aware of while driving a car with some lithium batteries.
3. The user is often hindered by short periods of SKL hiccup/stuttering.
4. Overheating issue: wait some time till the SKL has cooled down.
5. The SKL can’t recover immediately but it can within a reasonable time: 5 – 60 minutes (a period that can be bridged by the ‘back-up’ lithium batteries).
6. The SKL can fail but will always recover automatically.
7. The user can always intervene by:
a. changing the fuel
b. shaking the fuel or the SKL(?).
c. changing the electronics
d. adding hydrogen
e. other
8. The user needs to connect the SKL to the internet, a service engineer will analyse and solve the problem.
9. The SKL needs to be brought in to a reparation centre.
I think that early-adopters are much more interested in a fast market introduction than in high reliability. You – or Frank Acland(Frank…?) – could organise a poll to know if people can deal with different reliability issues.
A year ago, I met entrepreneurs in the solar business. They told me that they were able to achieve a cost of sub $1,000 per 1 kW of installed capacity.
Currently, our government and the concrete lobby are pushing forward a pointless project of a new nuclear power plant, where the cost (planned) is over $5,000 per 1 kW of installed capacity.
My question: Now that your newest control module is 40 times larger (and probably more expensive) than your 2 month old control module, can the newest version of E-Cat SKL compete with the system price per 1 kW (of installed capacity) of solar installations?
1. To clarify your answer to Tom Conover on Sept 7. You said the testing certification will be global. Does that mean:
a. This certification will allow you to sell home units in the US?
b. Home units in the US will require additional safety certification tests before they can be sold.
2. If everything goes as you have planned, when do you expect to have a mass production E-cat prototype in operation?
a Six months or less
b 12 months or less
c 18 months or less
Regarding safety issues, including the possible emission of dangerous ‘radiations’ – strange or otherwise – perhaps you need to set up some mice, and perhaps rats too, very close to one of your units in operation. You would also have carefully randomized control groups, located a considerable distance from your operations. The purpose, of course, would be to see if the animals very close to your apparatus suffer any negative consequences. (Who knows? It might turn out that the animals closest to your E-cat live forever, although that does not seem likely!)
And the experiment should go on through at least two more generations to make sure there are no negative effects that only show up much later. I suggest the latter because I believe historical Swedish data appear to prove that acute starvation of human teenagers results in very long lifespans in their grandchildren. So there can be delayed effects.
Calle H:
When you have a product that makes cheaper and cleaner energy I do not think the market will give any damn about how it works, provided its safety is certified.
I gave the theoretical bases of the Ecat’ SKL in my paper http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
It is not easy to understand, but who wants to understand the energy source must have the capacity to understand the matter, as interesting as it might be to him.
Thank you for your kind wishes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
You mentioned “price and sustainability” as two things which will give you competitiveness vs. existing technologies. Those are key but don’t forget also “portability and energy density”. Those are areas that can warrant a higher price premium because portable and energy dense fuels are more costly and need frequent refilling (gasoline, diesel, propane, …).
Example applications would be things like transportation, off-grid power/heat, and portable/emergency power generation.
Once the E-cat has been 3rd party validated and with that “going public” there will be questions from common people where the energy comes from. Surely Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, or Cold Fusion or Dark Energy or Vacuum Energy or Zero Point Energy, means nothing. Media, who probably will not understand the E-Cat technology, may laugh giving it negative publicity. Worst regard it as scam. Do you have a description ready for how to explain the E-cat energy so that the E-Cat will be taken seriously by common people?
Hopefully the certification of any forthcoming safety tests will in time allow for robustly designed mobile / portable E-Cat power pack products, either built into new tools / equipment or capable of charging existing portable battery powered tools or plugging older power tools / equipment directly into. If limits have to be applied, E-Cat power packs possibly limited to human controlled / motivated / carried traveling at up to 1.0 metre/second while operating.
The uses for small kW, mobile power packs for portable tools / equipment are extensive, especially if existing older power tools / equipment can be just plugged in, for domestic use in and around the house, household maintenance and gardening, for commercial use in factories, retail units and on building sites, isolated domestic or commercial premises, in and around farm buildings and fields, isolated cultivated small holdings, forestry, and maybe offshore fishing or fish farming. The possible market is extremely large.
Over the years, peoples imagination of what can be achieved has often foundered on what was possible with available power sources, I think we are now headed towards a time of rapid innovation, portability of equipment that is currently fixed, smaller more compact equipment, equipment that currently has a short duration of operation, specialist equipment becoming smaller, lower cost to buy and operate, and widely available.
With low cost high density portable power sources there will be greater scope for a higher standard of living outside of the main industrialised population centres.
Prof:
Thank you for the update: by the way, you forgot to put your name on the comment signed “Prof”. I think it was you, so I added your nickname, because you are the one that usually sends the updates about the Researchgate stats. By the way: I double checked and the stats you wrote are correct.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
You have stated that you consider the E-Cat SKL to be a potentially revolutionary technology. What do you think it will take for you to successfully launch this technology into a world with many established energy sources already in place.
you may find the linked video about electric jet engines driven by plasma as something to pique your curiosity, assuming you are not already informed of this development.
Link>> https://youtu.be/zreTrshsg-c
Eernie1:
Thank you for your comment. This blog for me is a delighting source of information and human contacts. I am learning much from this exchange of comments.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
i am looking forward to your presentation in the near future. However I am still puzzled by the reason you are so kind as to give us, the general public, a look into your discoveries and development unless you think we can contribute some possible insight from your disclosures.
The only other reason I can think of is that you are looking for venture capital, but you should be able to get all you need from the sources you are presently working with. I can understand that these sources would like you to keep all relevant information under ND policy to protect their interests.
No matter what the outcome of your program, for me it has been a interesting and pleasurable trip during my retirement period and has forced me to think and review all my past experiences with scientific inquiry.
Educational regards.
Within the E-Cat SKL assembly are there any moving parts?
Will the first products require the current design to be re-engineered and developed to withstand rough handling or dropping on the floor during say installation prior to operation?
Will it take extensive re-engineering and development to make an E-Cat SKL product sufficiently robust to withstand high G forces while in operation and mobile, i.e. say vehicle rapid acceleration, deceleration and change of axis orientation in a tight corner?
If the upcoming safety test is performed on a stationary device, will the certification state that it is only valid for a stationary device?
Caro A.R.
l’assenza di radiazioni ionizzanti, anche quelle strane, agevolerà certamente
l’eventuale omologazione del dispositivo per uso domestico. Non le pare?
ENGLISH:
The fact that the Ecat SKL does not emit any kind of ionizing radiation should ease the safety certification, am I correct ?
Stephen Cook:
1- yes
2- yes
3- it does not depend on me
4- this will be shown at the presentation
5- maybe
6- this does not depend on me
7- I will present all we deem useful and possible to present
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Norma:
Maxwell equations can be reinterpreted by the Clifford algebra using the “electromagnetic four potential”, which synthesizes all the conceptual entities in the Maxwell equations in a common origin. This way, it is assumed a function that links a vector of four components to each point of the space-time as the UNIQUE source of Maxwell’s equations entities.
See ref 12, par. 1.3.1 in http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I think your most important achievement is not the Ecat SKL, but the immense mass of R&D that your work unleashed in the world in the field of the LENR and other anomalous energy generation systems. It is unbelievable the attention that has been put on your paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
that is the most read physics paper of the last 18 months.
All the best wishes for the tests you have on course,
Calvin
Read
http://www.ingandrearossi.com
Understood why you are so conservative about the presentation of the Ecat SKL.
Andy
Dear Andrea,
Can you confirm that most energy generated by your latest Ecat version is mainly caused by transmutations rather than fusions?
Rob
Andrea,
For your information, the “million mile battery” to which Chuck Davis refers, has to do with its ability to endure enough charge/discharge cycles to allow the vehicle in which it is installed to travel a million miles in its useful life. It does not refer to its range.
Tesla is hosting a “Battery Day” on the 22nd of this month and is widely expected to announce a “million mile battery” at that time. Of course an SKL powered Tesla would be a much more important announcement. September should be a historic month for Tesla and Leonardo!
Bill Conley
Mason:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Frank Acland:
Brice himself has put a question mark after the 7(b) solution. He made a wide spectrum of possible events that are imaginary, hypothesizing solutions that can be right or wrong. Obviously the situations that will emerge will have to be resolved on the base of the specific parameters. He just wanted to warn about possible situations, not fix solutions, just making hypothesis. The hypothesis all have dignity of attention.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, Here is a link to info on the “million mile battery”. https://grist.org/energy/million-mile-batteries-are-coming-are-they-really-a-revolution/
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Chuck Davis:
Thank you for the suggestion, but such battery does not exist, as far as I am aware of.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, If the reliability issue involves unscheduled shutdown of the reaction there are many applications where this issue could be resolved with a combination of Tesla’s million mile battery and the ecat where the battery size would be a function of the applicable load and the worst case duration of a shutdown. In this scenario the battery serves as a buffer which would supply the necessary power while the reaction resumes operation. I feel confident that all of the readers are on the edge of their seats in anticipation of the upcoming tests as I am!
Warm regards,
Chuck Davis
Dear Andrea,
Brice, in a recent comment, has suggested a wide range of possible reliability issues that could affect the SKL. Can you identify which of his concerns are realistic?
For example, with his point 7(b), I can’t imagine having to take the SKL out of an electric vehicle and shake it as a way to recover from a failure.
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Rodney Nicholson:
We have safety certifications made by specialists about this issue.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Good Day Andrea,
Has the testing begun?
Respectfully,
Mason
Drew G.:
September
Warm Regards,
A.R.
MIKE PHALEN:
I am not able to answer now to your intelligent, but premature questions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ivan Samec:
I think so.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Brice:
Thank you for your suggestions.
I agree.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Bill Conley:
The Ecat SKL is noiseless.
Thank you for your kind wishes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea,
With the advent of testing for the 95:5 SKL and subsequent introduction to the world, I have been thinking about various applications for your tremendous innovation. In this context, I wondered how much noise the SKL generates when in operation. Could you address this, both with and without the cooling system.
Best wishes on the eminent third-party tests. If you can at least confirm when they are underway, many who follow your progress would be grateful.
Thanks,
Bill
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I personally think that the interest in the SKL will be enormous even when the reliability is not guaranteed for 100% of the time. When an electric car can extend its range virtually limitless in even less than 80% of the cases, I think that many people, certainly early adopters, will still be very happy to have such a great opportunity. But it will depend on what ‘reliability’ means here. Here in case of an electric car what are the possible reliability issues of the SKL:
1. The skl needs some restarts and gives you a small delay (like starting a car in winter time).
2. There are some small fluctuations of energy output, which you are not aware of while driving a car with some lithium batteries.
3. The user is often hindered by short periods of SKL hiccup/stuttering.
4. Overheating issue: wait some time till the SKL has cooled down.
5. The SKL can’t recover immediately but it can within a reasonable time: 5 – 60 minutes (a period that can be bridged by the ‘back-up’ lithium batteries).
6. The SKL can fail but will always recover automatically.
7. The user can always intervene by:
a. changing the fuel
b. shaking the fuel or the SKL(?).
c. changing the electronics
d. adding hydrogen
e. other
8. The user needs to connect the SKL to the internet, a service engineer will analyse and solve the problem.
9. The SKL needs to be brought in to a reparation centre.
I think that early-adopters are much more interested in a fast market introduction than in high reliability. You – or Frank Acland(Frank…?) – could organise a poll to know if people can deal with different reliability issues.
Thank you for your reply!
Brice
Dear Dr. Rossi,
A year ago, I met entrepreneurs in the solar business. They told me that they were able to achieve a cost of sub $1,000 per 1 kW of installed capacity.
Currently, our government and the concrete lobby are pushing forward a pointless project of a new nuclear power plant, where the cost (planned) is over $5,000 per 1 kW of installed capacity.
My question: Now that your newest control module is 40 times larger (and probably more expensive) than your 2 month old control module, can the newest version of E-Cat SKL compete with the system price per 1 kW (of installed capacity) of solar installations?
With Best Regards Ivan Samec
Hi Dr. Rossi,
I have two questions.
1. To clarify your answer to Tom Conover on Sept 7. You said the testing certification will be global. Does that mean:
a. This certification will allow you to sell home units in the US?
b. Home units in the US will require additional safety certification tests before they can be sold.
2. If everything goes as you have planned, when do you expect to have a mass production E-cat prototype in operation?
a Six months or less
b 12 months or less
c 18 months or less
Dr.Rossi:
What is the scheduled date for the testing to begin by your industry partner?
Dear Andrea:
Regarding safety issues, including the possible emission of dangerous ‘radiations’ – strange or otherwise – perhaps you need to set up some mice, and perhaps rats too, very close to one of your units in operation. You would also have carefully randomized control groups, located a considerable distance from your operations. The purpose, of course, would be to see if the animals very close to your apparatus suffer any negative consequences. (Who knows? It might turn out that the animals closest to your E-cat live forever, although that does not seem likely!)
And the experiment should go on through at least two more generations to make sure there are no negative effects that only show up much later. I suggest the latter because I believe historical Swedish data appear to prove that acute starvation of human teenagers results in very long lifespans in their grandchildren. So there can be delayed effects.
For what it is worth.
With my kindest anticipatory regards,
Rodney.
WaltC:
I agree,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
KeithT:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Calle H:
When you have a product that makes cheaper and cleaner energy I do not think the market will give any damn about how it works, provided its safety is certified.
I gave the theoretical bases of the Ecat’ SKL in my paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
It is not easy to understand, but who wants to understand the energy source must have the capacity to understand the matter, as interesting as it might be to him.
Thank you for your kind wishes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
You mentioned “price and sustainability” as two things which will give you competitiveness vs. existing technologies. Those are key but don’t forget also “portability and energy density”. Those are areas that can warrant a higher price premium because portable and energy dense fuels are more costly and need frequent refilling (gasoline, diesel, propane, …).
Example applications would be things like transportation, off-grid power/heat, and portable/emergency power generation.
Dear Andrea,
Once the E-cat has been 3rd party validated and with that “going public” there will be questions from common people where the energy comes from. Surely Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, or Cold Fusion or Dark Energy or Vacuum Energy or Zero Point Energy, means nothing. Media, who probably will not understand the E-Cat technology, may laugh giving it negative publicity. Worst regard it as scam. Do you have a description ready for how to explain the E-cat energy so that the E-Cat will be taken seriously by common people?
West wishes for this very exiting month.
Calle H
Dear Andrea,
Hopefully the certification of any forthcoming safety tests will in time allow for robustly designed mobile / portable E-Cat power pack products, either built into new tools / equipment or capable of charging existing portable battery powered tools or plugging older power tools / equipment directly into. If limits have to be applied, E-Cat power packs possibly limited to human controlled / motivated / carried traveling at up to 1.0 metre/second while operating.
The uses for small kW, mobile power packs for portable tools / equipment are extensive, especially if existing older power tools / equipment can be just plugged in, for domestic use in and around the house, household maintenance and gardening, for commercial use in factories, retail units and on building sites, isolated domestic or commercial premises, in and around farm buildings and fields, isolated cultivated small holdings, forestry, and maybe offshore fishing or fish farming. The possible market is extremely large.
Over the years, peoples imagination of what can be achieved has often foundered on what was possible with available power sources, I think we are now headed towards a time of rapid innovation, portability of equipment that is currently fixed, smaller more compact equipment, equipment that currently has a short duration of operation, specialist equipment becoming smaller, lower cost to buy and operate, and widely available.
With low cost high density portable power sources there will be greater scope for a higher standard of living outside of the main industrialised population centres.
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Frank Acland:
Price and sustainability.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof:
Thank you for the update: by the way, you forgot to put your name on the comment signed “Prof”. I think it was you, so I added your nickname, because you are the one that usually sends the updates about the Researchgate stats. By the way: I double checked and the stats you wrote are correct.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
You have stated that you consider the E-Cat SKL to be a potentially revolutionary technology. What do you think it will take for you to successfully launch this technology into a world with many established energy sources already in place.
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
@CC
I strongly approve your comment,
Ruby
Mason:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea:
reading
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_particle_interactions
Today your publications on Researchgate have reached new records:
Readings 52 000
Recommendations 2 841
Citations 21
Total Research Interest Index 826.5
And counting…
Prof
Dear Andrea,
you may find the linked video about electric jet engines driven by plasma as something to pique your curiosity, assuming you are not already informed of this development.
Link>> https://youtu.be/zreTrshsg-c
My best to one and all while we wait,
Mason
KeithT:
1- no
2- maybe
3- I don’t think so
4- I don’t think so
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Sam:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Eernie1:
Thank you for your comment. This blog for me is a delighting source of information and human contacts. I am learning much from this exchange of comments.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
i am looking forward to your presentation in the near future. However I am still puzzled by the reason you are so kind as to give us, the general public, a look into your discoveries and development unless you think we can contribute some possible insight from your disclosures.
The only other reason I can think of is that you are looking for venture capital, but you should be able to get all you need from the sources you are presently working with. I can understand that these sources would like you to keep all relevant information under ND policy to protect their interests.
No matter what the outcome of your program, for me it has been a interesting and pleasurable trip during my retirement period and has forced me to think and review all my past experiences with scientific inquiry.
Educational regards.
Dear Andrea,
Within the E-Cat SKL assembly are there any moving parts?
Will the first products require the current design to be re-engineered and developed to withstand rough handling or dropping on the floor during say installation prior to operation?
Will it take extensive re-engineering and development to make an E-Cat SKL product sufficiently robust to withstand high G forces while in operation and mobile, i.e. say vehicle rapid acceleration, deceleration and change of axis orientation in a tight corner?
If the upcoming safety test is performed on a stationary device, will the certification state that it is only valid for a stationary device?
Regards,
Keith Thomson.
Hello DR Rossi
A new Scientific Discovery.
https://phys.org/news/2020-09-physicists-nudge-atoms-trillionth.html
Regards
Sam
Gian Luca:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rod Walton:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I suggest all the readers of the JoNP that still didn’t it to read
http://www.ingandrearossi.com
Breathtaking.
On Power Engineering issue of September 8 2020:
“Nuclear Facility in Scotland Restarting Despite Retirement”
Rod Walton
Caro A.R.
l’assenza di radiazioni ionizzanti, anche quelle strane, agevolerà certamente
l’eventuale omologazione del dispositivo per uso domestico. Non le pare?
ENGLISH:
The fact that the Ecat SKL does not emit any kind of ionizing radiation should ease the safety certification, am I correct ?
Grazie
Stephen Cook:
1- yes
2- yes
3- it does not depend on me
4- this will be shown at the presentation
5- maybe
6- this does not depend on me
7- I will present all we deem useful and possible to present
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Tom Conover:
It should be global.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Norma:
Maxwell equations can be reinterpreted by the Clifford algebra using the “electromagnetic four potential”, which synthesizes all the conceptual entities in the Maxwell equations in a common origin. This way, it is assumed a function that links a vector of four components to each point of the space-time as the UNIQUE source of Maxwell’s equations entities.
See ref 12, par. 1.3.1 in
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Warm Regards,
A.R.