Dear Andrea
The announced tests show that there must now be a product that is manufactured in the planned production apparatus and whether this satisfies the expected qualities.
The only thing that has been said about properties is that the lifespan of 100,000 hours is a hypothesis that must be confirmed by practical experience. A limit for tilt has also already emerged.
For electrical appliances, there are a number of public requirements that must be met.
Furthermore, it is expected that what is stated in https://ecatthenewfire.com/ are the properties that must be tested to see if the product really achieves.
I think that now September 27th is a date when a publication of test results is relevant and therefore look forward to hearing something closer on that day.
I then look forward to an announcement that the first mass-produced Ecats work as planned.
I also expect that the design, dimensions and weight may be presented.
Dear AR
I am working up an application where it seems likely that the load will try and take more than 0.85A.
Is there a simple current limiting circuit I can use to protect NGU from turning itself off?
regards
Greg Leonard
Greg Smith:
Thank you for the suggestion, but he Journal of Nuclear Physics has a field of application wider that the Ecat, I do not think it will be a problem,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Despite being in the name of this fine Journal, ‘nuclear’ is the N-word. It is very important to scrub ‘nuclear’ from any non-scientific documents (e.g. marketing etc) and presentations related to E-Cat. If certain US government departments see the N-word – like the US Office of Nuclear Energy, they may feel obligated to regulate it. Zero Point Energy is far preferable to LENR, IMHO. I find normal people hear nuclear and think danger/fission and hot fusion (that does not work). I don’t know about the legalities of calling it something like zero point energy or E-Cat Energy or Casimir Energy.
Dear AR,
I am excited that deliveries will begin soon!
It is some time since I updated my pre-order. Will I be able to adjust the number of 10W cells when I am notified my order is ready?
regards
Greg Leonard
Dr. Rossi, speaking of problems with car manufacturers, was referring to the permanent installation of ECAT on board cars, as was the case with the Twizy.
A separate charging would replace the present charging systems such as charging stations or wallboxes.
And in this case, there are no such problems.
Obviously, the first option would be absolutely preferable, but it faces (for now) these issues.
Suppose a solution of hanging a connector in parallel to the normal charging port connector inside the EV. The question is what happens if the Mobile Connector (or a similar unit for a non-Tesla) is connected to the interior connector and then someone plugs a Tesla Supercharger to the normal charging port? The Supercharger provides 100s of Volts. Does the Mobile Charger detonate?
The theft problem I was referring to was not of intellectual property but of simple theft. The thief simply walks away with the charging unit if it is external to the EV.
If the scenario is one of charging the EV at a parking lot or when the EV is parked on a street, how does one keep people from stealing the NGU power (external) suitcase. Mounting in a Tesla subtrunk where it is not visible is a possible answer. Adding an internal connector is possible but there must be safeguards in the implementation to avoid catastrophic events as described above.
The North American Charging Standard is an open document. Maybe a design where only one charging connector is active at any one time. Some engineering is required.
Steven Nicholes Karels
Some time ago, I wrote a post discussing this theft problem with Dr. Rossi, recommending integrating a GPS geolocation chip.
A clearly visible serial number would also have been helpful.
He appreciated the suggestion, saying he hadn’t yet considered the theft issue.
I hope this chip is integrated; it’s cheap these days.
@Karels
Mr. Mamia already told how to. An additional socket in the trunk for charging the electric car with 230 volts. What could be the problem?
If I use the ECAT at home, I don’t have to ask the manufacturers of the electric heater, the hotplate, or the computer for permission too.
Otherwise, an ECAT would be pointless.
Best regards
R.Brand
Charging a parked Tesla EV using eCat NGU technology is straightforward. Set the Tesla to accept 5 Amps at 120VAC (US standard) for 600 W power delivery. Add six (or seven) 100W NGU Power generators that drive a pure sine wave inverter configured to output 120 VAC single phase power. Connect the output of the inverter to a Tesla Mobile Connector. Then plug into the Tesla though its charging port.
The difficulty is how do you ensure the above items won’t be stolen by a thief. After all, the NGU components cost about $1,500 USD. This works at a residential home in a protected garage, but then maybe just power the entire house and charge the vehicle through house electrical power?
On the street or in a parking garage, security may be an issue.
Dr. Rossi, I said that for now, it won’t be possible to charge a car’s battery while it’s in motion.
But it’s possible to use Ecat to charge it at home and during stops, as is currently done with home wallboxes and charging stations.
Without requiring any authorization from the car manufacturers.
Gavino Mamia:
You made an intelligent and good point; nonetheless, there is a big issue: Eng. Maico Marzocchi is an expert engineer, who thoroughly knows the Renault Twizy, responsible for the technology he applied to match the Ecat with the battery of his Renault, the test has been made inside a private racetrack closed to the public automobilistic network, with me as the expert responsible of the Ecat, using two Twizes, one ( powered by the Ecat ) property of Eng. Marzocchi, one of Leonardo Corporation, powered only by the Renault battery: this is a completely different situation respect the utilization of the Ecat to recharge the battery of a regular EV by a non expert person, to drive the EV along public roads. To use the Ecat to recharge an EV is necessary that the application is approved and accepted by the car manufacturer, otherwise the manufacturer would severe all his guarantees on that vehicle, either if the recharge is made at home or on the road.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
To Gavino Mamia
I agree with your assessment, presented on September 1st, of what will come of the public reaction when Ecat becomes available on the market.
The fact is that “no energy users”, really, are interested in oil, gas, petrol stations, wind turbines or solar panels.
What interests “everyone” is energy for production, transport and household needs, delivered simply, safely and at the most favourable price.
Today, there is nothing that can compete with electricity as an energy carrier to achieve the aforementioned purposes.
The most important devices for such use are designed or can be designed to be operated by electric current.
The market therefore demands electricity as cheaply as possible and without negative “side effects”.
Global environmental changes have led to a critical attitude towards CO2 emissions in order to be able to create electricity. Minimising risks here is now of very great and global importance.
The clear benefits that most people will realize they achieve by using Ecat, beyond what the current production and cost of electricity entails, will undoubtedly create the euphoric reactions you describe.
Even the most environmentally negative politicians will hardly have any other choice than to join the “Ecat cheering chorus” when the opportunities to acquire such aggregates are available.
Doubting the effects of Ecat can probably be attempted.
Neutral tests from recognized institutions are therefore necessary.
The presented lifespan aspects will probably become a topic.
Regards Svein
Dr. Rossi
You stated that the application of ECAT to electric vehicles can only be decided and implemented by manufacturers.
And for this reason, it will take time before it is implemented.
However, charging at home, while the vehicle is stationary, is feasible.
We saw that Engineer Maico Marzocchi rented an electric car and successfully tested charging in his garage.
Even with the ECAT locked in the trunk, when the vehicle is parked, it should be possible to charge the car, obviously by running the hidden cables internally, bypassing the external connection, and activating charging with a switch on the dashboard.
Being able to charge the car at home and then while the vehicle is stationary would cover 99% of the required charge.
Charging the vehicle while it is moving on the road is currently not possible due to limitations imposed by manufacturers, but while waiting for this implementation, it would revolutionize the world of road transportation.
Good work
Energy User:
1- no
2- no
Let me remind you that, as I always wrote, the application of the Ecat to EVs can be decided and made only by the manufacturers.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi –
1- if the ecat is suddenly not in an upright position, can there be permanent damage to the ecat ?
2- Another question is reaction to shock and acelleration – the Renault Twizy demonstration was at the speed of a Twizy. If you think of an electric car driving at higher pace in curves and hard breaking – any limits to the use of ecats and possible damage in these cases?
Thank you for your answers.
Regarding ecat tilt requirements or limitations and being plus /minus 20 deg
1) was the earlier grid earth bound ecat variation also subject to tilt requirements?
2) is the current grid free but with tilt limitation a trade off to achieve grid free flexibility?
3) is the tilt limitation due to reactor ingredient distributions?
4) can you estimate if the ecat will work on the moon and if the tilt range will be different?
5) can you estimate for a space traveling vehicle that is not under acceleration nor subject to significant nearby gravitational field where the question “which way is up?” applies, will the ecat work?
6) can you estimate for a planet with no magnetic field, will the ecat work?
On a podcast last week,
Nobel Prize-winning economist and MIT professor Daron Acemoglu
discussed issues of America’s economic policy.
He insisted on defining them as issues of “political-economic” policy.
“Why is the US so innovative?”, he asked.
“Because people take risks believing that they’re going to be successful”.
Why?
“Because people in America think they understand the economy.
They think that if they come up with a better product,
they’re not going to be made subservient to some other company
with better government connections.
It’s about institutions, it’s about trust.”
For the sake of the E-cat,
and for all of us,
I hope there is still enough of that left in America
to justify that trust.
Luca Quaragnal:
It could be related to calendar time, but it is not a guarantee, because it is a hypothesis still not corroborated by actual experience,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi, Andrea. In the past you said that the Ecat had to be mounted upright/vertically, implying that it would not function properly, or at all, if tilted too much. The maximum angle of allowable tilt was not specified, as I recall.
Is this restriction still true for the current NGU variants?
Warmest regards, and may everything go smoothly with the manufacture and deliveries of the Ecat NGU.
Dr Rossi,
1- During the Ecat tests you and the global licensee made in the last 12 months, has happened that the Ecat failed to work properly because of failures of parts of it ?
2- If yes: have the related issues been always successfully resolved ?
Dr. Rossi, thank you for the September update published today. I am feeling encouraged, because from what you wrote you are at an advanced stage of preparation for the scheduled Ecat production.
I. You have always said that Leonardo Corporation’s goal is to start production this year. Is this the goal of Leonardo’s global partner also?
II. Are there any major technical problems left to resolve?
III. Has the action of ResearchGate in deleting your papers caused any problems in your preparations?
You may not realize it, Dr. Rossi, but what you are working on right now is unprecedented in history. There has been no invention like Ecat ever on the market. The demand will huge and your work can bless the world, I believe with God’s help you will succeed.
Have FAITH. Amen.
Ecat Enthusiast
Frank Acland:
1. also
2. we had a great support from the A.I. obtaining good renderings, we are working also on it
Thak you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
1. Does this mean that you are going to begin testing the manufacturing processes for E-Cats?
2. Has the design of the first E-Cats now been finalized?
Ambrogio:
Probably the whole month,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
How long will last the tests on course during September?
Best,
Ambrogio
Greg Leonard.
Simple Current Limit Circuit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjftioiNs0
Steve
Svein:
Thank you for your opinion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
The announced tests show that there must now be a product that is manufactured in the planned production apparatus and whether this satisfies the expected qualities.
The only thing that has been said about properties is that the lifespan of 100,000 hours is a hypothesis that must be confirmed by practical experience. A limit for tilt has also already emerged.
For electrical appliances, there are a number of public requirements that must be met.
Furthermore, it is expected that what is stated in https://ecatthenewfire.com/ are the properties that must be tested to see if the product really achieves.
I think that now September 27th is a date when a publication of test results is relevant and therefore look forward to hearing something closer on that day.
I then look forward to an announcement that the first mass-produced Ecats work as planned.
I also expect that the design, dimensions and weight may be presented.
Regards: Svein
Greg Leonard:
If you do not overcome the power of the Ecat the protection does not turn it off,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear AR
I am working up an application where it seems likely that the load will try and take more than 0.85A.
Is there a simple current limiting circuit I can use to protect NGU from turning itself off?
regards
Greg Leonard
Greg Smith:
Thank you for the suggestion, but he Journal of Nuclear Physics has a field of application wider that the Ecat, I do not think it will be a problem,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
More unsolicited advice …
Despite being in the name of this fine Journal, ‘nuclear’ is the N-word. It is very important to scrub ‘nuclear’ from any non-scientific documents (e.g. marketing etc) and presentations related to E-Cat. If certain US government departments see the N-word – like the US Office of Nuclear Energy, they may feel obligated to regulate it. Zero Point Energy is far preferable to LENR, IMHO. I find normal people hear nuclear and think danger/fission and hot fusion (that does not work). I don’t know about the legalities of calling it something like zero point energy or E-Cat Energy or Casimir Energy.
Greg
Ecat Enthusiast:
Thank you for your support; answer: yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi:
Hoping for a successful September for you and your partners!
Has the crucial testing started yet?
Regards,
Ecat Enthusiast
Greg Leonard:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear AR,
I am excited that deliveries will begin soon!
It is some time since I updated my pre-order. Will I be able to adjust the number of 10W cells when I am notified my order is ready?
regards
Greg Leonard
@G. Mamia
Car thieves are already using cheap jammers to bypass such GPS chips. So it’s unlikely to achieve much.
Best regards
R.Brand
To everyone:
Dr. Rossi, speaking of problems with car manufacturers, was referring to the permanent installation of ECAT on board cars, as was the case with the Twizy.
A separate charging would replace the present charging systems such as charging stations or wallboxes.
And in this case, there are no such problems.
Obviously, the first option would be absolutely preferable, but it faces (for now) these issues.
Kind Regards,
Italo R.
R.Brand,
Suppose a solution of hanging a connector in parallel to the normal charging port connector inside the EV. The question is what happens if the Mobile Connector (or a similar unit for a non-Tesla) is connected to the interior connector and then someone plugs a Tesla Supercharger to the normal charging port? The Supercharger provides 100s of Volts. Does the Mobile Charger detonate?
The theft problem I was referring to was not of intellectual property but of simple theft. The thief simply walks away with the charging unit if it is external to the EV.
If the scenario is one of charging the EV at a parking lot or when the EV is parked on a street, how does one keep people from stealing the NGU power (external) suitcase. Mounting in a Tesla subtrunk where it is not visible is a possible answer. Adding an internal connector is possible but there must be safeguards in the implementation to avoid catastrophic events as described above.
The North American Charging Standard is an open document. Maybe a design where only one charging connector is active at any one time. Some engineering is required.
Steven Nicholes Karels
Some time ago, I wrote a post discussing this theft problem with Dr. Rossi, recommending integrating a GPS geolocation chip.
A clearly visible serial number would also have been helpful.
He appreciated the suggestion, saying he hadn’t yet considered the theft issue.
I hope this chip is integrated; it’s cheap these days.
@Karels
Mr. Mamia already told how to. An additional socket in the trunk for charging the electric car with 230 volts. What could be the problem?
If I use the ECAT at home, I don’t have to ask the manufacturers of the electric heater, the hotplate, or the computer for permission too.
Otherwise, an ECAT would be pointless.
Best regards
R.Brand
Gavino Mamia,
Charging a parked Tesla EV using eCat NGU technology is straightforward. Set the Tesla to accept 5 Amps at 120VAC (US standard) for 600 W power delivery. Add six (or seven) 100W NGU Power generators that drive a pure sine wave inverter configured to output 120 VAC single phase power. Connect the output of the inverter to a Tesla Mobile Connector. Then plug into the Tesla though its charging port.
The difficulty is how do you ensure the above items won’t be stolen by a thief. After all, the NGU components cost about $1,500 USD. This works at a residential home in a protected garage, but then maybe just power the entire house and charge the vehicle through house electrical power?
On the street or in a parking garage, security may be an issue.
Some thoughts…
Gavino Mamia:
Thank you for the information: we will investigate the issue,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi, I said that for now, it won’t be possible to charge a car’s battery while it’s in motion.
But it’s possible to use Ecat to charge it at home and during stops, as is currently done with home wallboxes and charging stations.
Without requiring any authorization from the car manufacturers.
Gavino Mamia:
You made an intelligent and good point; nonetheless, there is a big issue: Eng. Maico Marzocchi is an expert engineer, who thoroughly knows the Renault Twizy, responsible for the technology he applied to match the Ecat with the battery of his Renault, the test has been made inside a private racetrack closed to the public automobilistic network, with me as the expert responsible of the Ecat, using two Twizes, one ( powered by the Ecat ) property of Eng. Marzocchi, one of Leonardo Corporation, powered only by the Renault battery: this is a completely different situation respect the utilization of the Ecat to recharge the battery of a regular EV by a non expert person, to drive the EV along public roads. To use the Ecat to recharge an EV is necessary that the application is approved and accepted by the car manufacturer, otherwise the manufacturer would severe all his guarantees on that vehicle, either if the recharge is made at home or on the road.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
To Gavino Mamia
I agree with your assessment, presented on September 1st, of what will come of the public reaction when Ecat becomes available on the market.
The fact is that “no energy users”, really, are interested in oil, gas, petrol stations, wind turbines or solar panels.
What interests “everyone” is energy for production, transport and household needs, delivered simply, safely and at the most favourable price.
Today, there is nothing that can compete with electricity as an energy carrier to achieve the aforementioned purposes.
The most important devices for such use are designed or can be designed to be operated by electric current.
The market therefore demands electricity as cheaply as possible and without negative “side effects”.
Global environmental changes have led to a critical attitude towards CO2 emissions in order to be able to create electricity. Minimising risks here is now of very great and global importance.
The clear benefits that most people will realize they achieve by using Ecat, beyond what the current production and cost of electricity entails, will undoubtedly create the euphoric reactions you describe.
Even the most environmentally negative politicians will hardly have any other choice than to join the “Ecat cheering chorus” when the opportunities to acquire such aggregates are available.
Doubting the effects of Ecat can probably be attempted.
Neutral tests from recognized institutions are therefore necessary.
The presented lifespan aspects will probably become a topic.
Regards Svein
Dr. Rossi
You stated that the application of ECAT to electric vehicles can only be decided and implemented by manufacturers.
And for this reason, it will take time before it is implemented.
However, charging at home, while the vehicle is stationary, is feasible.
We saw that Engineer Maico Marzocchi rented an electric car and successfully tested charging in his garage.
Even with the ECAT locked in the trunk, when the vehicle is parked, it should be possible to charge the car, obviously by running the hidden cables internally, bypassing the external connection, and activating charging with a switch on the dashboard.
Being able to charge the car at home and then while the vehicle is stationary would cover 99% of the required charge.
Charging the vehicle while it is moving on the road is currently not possible due to limitations imposed by manufacturers, but while waiting for this implementation, it would revolutionize the world of road transportation.
Good work
Energy User:
1- no
2- no
Let me remind you that, as I always wrote, the application of the Ecat to EVs can be decided and made only by the manufacturers.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi –
1- if the ecat is suddenly not in an upright position, can there be permanent damage to the ecat ?
2- Another question is reaction to shock and acelleration – the Renault Twizy demonstration was at the speed of a Twizy. If you think of an electric car driving at higher pace in curves and hard breaking – any limits to the use of ecats and possible damage in these cases?
Thank you for your answers.
Hello Doctor Rossi,
Is there also a ballerina in the 10W E-Cat NGU ?
Wish you the best,
Pascal Leynaud
Steve D:
1- yes
2- no
3- no
4- I am not able to answer
5- same as in 4
6- no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Stephen:
Thank you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
Regarding ecat tilt requirements or limitations and being plus /minus 20 deg
1) was the earlier grid earth bound ecat variation also subject to tilt requirements?
2) is the current grid free but with tilt limitation a trade off to achieve grid free flexibility?
3) is the tilt limitation due to reactor ingredient distributions?
4) can you estimate if the ecat will work on the moon and if the tilt range will be different?
5) can you estimate for a space traveling vehicle that is not under acceleration nor subject to significant nearby gravitational field where the question “which way is up?” applies, will the ecat work?
6) can you estimate for a planet with no magnetic field, will the ecat work?
Thank you
Dear Andrea Rossi
I just read this article and thought you might find it interesting for your projects.
https://phys.org/news/2025-09-heterolytic-hydrogen-dissociation-ambient-temperature.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fscience
Although I suspect this is a field of knowledge that you already know very well.
Interesting though that they are able to dissociate H at room temperature with UV light using this process.
Best Regards
Stephen
Frank Acland:
Also,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
Based on your comments today, it sounds like you and your licensee have made modifications to the E-Cats to ensure reliability.
Question: During your September testing, will you be stress testing the Ecats to ensure that they are ready for release into the marketplace?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Juan Carlos:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear everybody,
On a podcast last week,
Nobel Prize-winning economist and MIT professor Daron Acemoglu
discussed issues of America’s economic policy.
He insisted on defining them as issues of “political-economic” policy.
“Why is the US so innovative?”, he asked.
“Because people take risks believing that they’re going to be successful”.
Why?
“Because people in America think they understand the economy.
They think that if they come up with a better product,
they’re not going to be made subservient to some other company
with better government connections.
It’s about institutions, it’s about trust.”
For the sake of the E-cat,
and for all of us,
I hope there is still enough of that left in America
to justify that trust.
Jean Pierre:
Yes, it is still valid. Max angle can be in the order of 20°.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof:
1- yes
2- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R,
Luca Quaragnal:
It could be related to calendar time, but it is not a guarantee, because it is a hypothesis still not corroborated by actual experience,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Ecat expected life = 100000 hours: is this lifespan related to swith on hours, or calendar time ?
Luca
Hi, Andrea. In the past you said that the Ecat had to be mounted upright/vertically, implying that it would not function properly, or at all, if tilted too much. The maximum angle of allowable tilt was not specified, as I recall.
Is this restriction still true for the current NGU variants?
Warmest regards, and may everything go smoothly with the manufacture and deliveries of the Ecat NGU.
Jean Pierre
Dr Rossi,
1- During the Ecat tests you and the global licensee made in the last 12 months, has happened that the Ecat failed to work properly because of failures of parts of it ?
2- If yes: have the related issues been always successfully resolved ?
Ecat Enthusiast:
Thank you for your support.
Answers:
1- As far as I know, yes
2- Confidential issue
3- No
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi, thank you for the September update published today. I am feeling encouraged, because from what you wrote you are at an advanced stage of preparation for the scheduled Ecat production.
I. You have always said that Leonardo Corporation’s goal is to start production this year. Is this the goal of Leonardo’s global partner also?
II. Are there any major technical problems left to resolve?
III. Has the action of ResearchGate in deleting your papers caused any problems in your preparations?
You may not realize it, Dr. Rossi, but what you are working on right now is unprecedented in history. There has been no invention like Ecat ever on the market. The demand will huge and your work can bless the world, I believe with God’s help you will succeed.
Have FAITH. Amen.
Ecat Enthusiast
Frank Acland:
1. also
2. we had a great support from the A.I. obtaining good renderings, we are working also on it
Thak you for the link,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Energy User:
Both,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Energy User:
Both
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
You posted an interesting update on X today: https://x.com/LeonardoCorpor3/status/1962820942129742250
Good news that you are on schedule!
1. Does this mean that you are going to begin testing the manufacturing processes for E-Cats?
2. Has the design of the first E-Cats now been finalized?
Thank you if you can answer,
Frank Acland