allow me to share a short metaphor that helps me visualize a possible aspect of the issues we have been discussing.
Imagine a beautiful house with no natural water source. One day, its owner discovers a way to extract water from the humidity in the air — something previously unknown.
At first, trying to collect large amounts causes the devices to fail. Reducing expectations, a very small device finally works, producing just a glass of water. Encouraged, the owner builds many small units instead of one large one.
However, as the total amount of collected water increases, unexpected problems appear again: failures, malfunctions, unexplained instabilities.
One night, the owner realizes the analogy: like a sealed container filled with gas, any system that draws energy needs an adequate outflow, otherwise pressure builds up.
He first improves drainage into the ground: it works for a while, but soon the soil becomes saturated and the garden begins to suffer.
Then he adds another outlet — evaporation through sun-exposed surfaces — slightly relieving the system.
The lesson is simple:
the invention works, but it is delicate. Nature compensates imbalances only within certain limits. Beyond those limits, even good systems destabilize their surroundings.
Not every house has the same “ground”, and not every environment can absorb the same load. The solution, therefore, cannot be uniform, but must be carefully calibrated, limited, and adapted case by case.
I offer this image only as a practical way to think about scaling and environmental interaction, not as a theory.
Prof. Neri Accornero:
Understood, yes the percentage of malfunctions are still around the 5%, which is high for a mass production; this is one of the reasons why we are afraid of a massive distribution in market areas oriented toward non professional users. Paradoxically, we are more afraid of households appliances than of 4 MW plants.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Daniel G, Zavela:
Answer to your question: yes.
About the stability: the Latina test was determined to be completed in 6 hours. To certify the stability of a products are necessary tests of thousands of hours,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steve D:
1- Based on the last developments, the SSM is possible only for plants with a power of megawatts
2- Every Client that has sent a pre-order will be contacted to define his specific situation
Warm Regards,
A.R.
From recent questions by Camillo with regards to a real life environment and your answers covering earth, duty cycle, usage exceeding a certain regime and your response. Also that of Roberto “definitely easier to obtain SSM in an industrial plant”.
1) Do you think you might offer both grid free and grid bound Ecat versions to the domestic market, one to suit small portable appliances another for heavy duty, essential fixed, appliances?
2) There is an overlap in many aplications. The purchaser needs to have the right one, and they will ask for advice. Is a this dilemma?
Dear Andrea, if just one of the three parties involved in the project—the Energy Generator, the Distributor, or the Financier—were to come forward and issue a very brief statement stating that the ECAT project is underway, without any further details, it would be a crucial step in confirming your still-so-ignored invention to the world.
Some new questions to the AI reveal some interesting characteristics of the NGU reaction controls.
The NGU controls the destructive nature of pico-cluster by keeping the size of that cluster small. The NGU keeps the size of the pico-cluster particles count at a maximum of 10^11 particles. This works out to produce a pico- cluster at a diameter of 0.12um. This is controlled by applying a weak magnetic field within the optical cavity of the NGU core partition.
This small size of the pico-cluster is engendered as follows:
from the AI
”External Sensitivity: Conversely, during the formation phase of the seed clusters (Ultra-Dense Hydrogen), Leif Holmlid observed that relatively weak external magnetic fields of 0.03–0.07 Tesla can disrupt the Meissner effect required to lock the Cooper pairs into place, preventing the cluster from forming at all.”
This means that a large external magnetic field can distroy the nascent pico-cluster at birth by disrupting the Ultra dense hydrogen seed from which the cluster grows.
A properly sized pico-cluster can avoid transmutation using a relatively weak external magnetic fields of between 0.03–0.07 Tesla. No external magnetic field will result in the growth of a macro cluster. or EVO comprised of a particle count of about 10^21 particles as Ken Shoulders observed in his research. The magnetic fields inside the EVO are huge, strong enough to disrupt matter in a process called transmutation.
Keeping the pico-clusters small limits the power density of the vacuum reaction. This may be why there is a 10 watt limit on NGU core power density limit.
The EVO cannot increase in size indefinably, up to the 250um diameter limit at which point it becomes unstable and is destroyed.
From the AI
”The Instability Threshold: The cluster becomes unstable not because the magnetic field weakens, but because the particle density grows too high. At the critical size of 250 microns, the internal quantum pressure (Fermi pressure + Coulomb repulsion) exceeds the tensile strength of the 1000 Tesla magnetic containment, triggering the Bosenova (collapse and explosion)”.
I asked two new questions to produce these new insights into the Rossi reaction as follows:
1 – How many exciton polaritons are required to form a pico-cluster that is 250 microns in diameter.
2 – what is the maximum magnetic field that the EVO can encompass before it becomes unstable.
The simulation of the Bosenova is worth seeing.
Click on the link below to see the last two running added questions to the AI covering the aforementioned material.
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=b32987aff093c1c8&sxsrf=ANbL-n4pSEO8W0RnkN7fAub05ekRbO37nA%3A1769606715995&aep=26&ntc=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjlxcvdqq6SAxUGKFkFHTQ1EkQQ2J8OegQIChAE&biw=1265&bih=607&dpr=1.52&aic=0&mtid=nG95ac2KFriv5NoPtZ-woAM&mstk=AUtExfCu5lrJR9SfOkjCEafFAm46Rt_DHUQqNQXcl05XZkXZ3Z-HaOijmAojo26ZTy8Ko3r37tCRUK3EKOqfnm8R8eu_MXw4yyTYs_X29kIuJ_CR6plpfXbCb4CdExm_BHIorWcaQVHegPIpKRFmWKX78HgT3jeb4KUqg6plEEsnnzoVZpt6vLnJ5BZMARSNercovs_cG4V5IvYSO0P0rqNwnb1FNRRF9TyzRtsEou17uE72s3JuAYQm_qEj20xscbH-mbfGgj7rx95TKsf10INmHTkZIMroHySXjr22Tg-F_4Q2MvoBT7A0nwIEg8z_YR2yus598WUVmv5wTCDRmHqj5QtGgWaO1J7oX8Ba4sA7pBCdXwX9CF06soOs&csuir=1&q=in+a+hole+superconductor+formed+from+ultra+dense+hydrogen%2C+where+are+the+excitons+located.+produce+a+well+ordered+discriptive+summary+of+exciton+structue+and+layout+including+a+diagram+to+aid+exciton+visualization.&nem=143&atvm=2
following your recent reply, I would like to share a purely practical reflection, inspired by my past experience as a verifier of unconventional energy-related phenomena.
In several borderline systems I had the opportunity to observe, operational issues were not primarily linked to the device itself, but rather to the interaction with the surrounding environment, particularly when energy flows were not adequately referenced to ground or when usage exceeded a certain regime.
This leads me to wonder whether, as an intermediate step before full mass deployment, a very constrained early-use scenario could be viable, for example:
installation limited to single houses with available land, allowing for a well-distributed and dimensioned grounding system;
strict limits on average power usage and duty cycle, avoiding continuous maximum operation;
clear engineering rules regarding grounding geometry and minimum surface area, as already hinted at in the past by William Reich in analogous contexts.
Such an approach would obviously limit distribution, but might allow a controlled introduction of the technology, reducing environmental side effects while gathering long-term operational data.
I fully understand that these considerations may already be part of your internal analysis; I simply wanted to share them as a user-oriented perspective.
Italo R.:
I empathyze with you and understand your feeling, but I can assure everybody that the pre-orders will be delivered; my opinion is that they will start within this year, but this is an opinion, based on what I am aware of so far. I can assure all that I am doing what I can to make the waiting time as short as possible, and all of us agree on this point, compatibly with the reasons that already and many times I have explained here; please see also the answer I published here to Camillo minutes ago,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Camillo:
The issues you cited are real and the reason of the delay of mass delivering are due also to these issues, that are much easier in industrial facilities.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Worldwide, there are about 8,000 Tesla Charging sites. Tesla will likely convert their sites to use the V4 cabinets – more efficient – saves money. Each V4 cabinet can support 8 Tesla charging stalls.
Testa charging locations offer multiples of 8 charging stalls – up to 100+ stalls.
Grid support infrastructure exists to supply Grid power going to the V4 Cabinets.
Proposal:
Place NGU 1.2 MW AC Power Generators (1 or 2) at each V4 Cabinet. Use the existing Grid power cabling system to supply unused excess power to the Grid when the power is not being used by the V4 Cabinets.
The Tesla Supercharging stations already have power and date communications. Turn the Tesla site from an energy consumer to an energy source.
For example: 8,000 sites with two V4 Cabinets per site = 16,000 Cabinets. 1.2 MW per Cabinet * 16,000 Cabinets = about 20 GW of electrical power.
Do the same approach for computer data centers. They run continuously. Double the required power generation: 1/2 of the generated electrical power goes to the date center; and 1/2 of the generated power flows back to the Grid.
Thoughts?
“A V4 Tesla Supercharger cabinet (the power electronics unit) is designed to handle significantly more power than its V3 predecessor, with capacity designed to support up to 1.2 Megawatts (1,200 kW) to power up to eight, 500 kW-capable stalls.
While a single cabinet can peak at high output levels to charge vehicles at up to 500kW (for passenger cars) or 1.2MW (for Tesla Semis), the grid requirement is optimized for dynamic, shared, and efficient power distribution.
Here are the key power and electrical requirements for a V4 Cabinet:
Maximum Output Capability: Up to 1.2 MW shared across 8 stalls.
Power Density: V4 cabinets have three times the power density of V3, allowing them to deliver higher throughput with lower operational costs.
Voltage Range: The V4 system supports 400V-1000V vehicle architectures.
Grid Input Voltage: Typically, 480V 3-phase AC.
Input Amperage: The cabinet requires high-voltage 3-phase input, with early, lower-spec versions showing continuous input around 1,200–1,500 amps, depending on configuration.”
May I ask one additional, very practical question from the perspective of a future residential user?
In the course of the system’s development and validation, have configurations equivalent to a real, inhabited apartment environment been considered or tested — meaning operation over extended periods, at kW-level aggregated power, within a standard domestic electrical installation?
More specifically, I am interested in understanding whether, under such realistic conditions, particular attention was given to aspects such as duty cycle, grounding quality (earth reference), and long-term coexistence with ordinary household electronics, and whether these factors proved relevant for stable operation.
I ask this primarily to better understand what constitutes a technically conservative and well-engineered residential use scenario.
The latest developments in the production and commercialization of the Ecat, together with the consequent and unavoidable need to maintain the strictest secrecy for security reasons, have brought about a new and heavy reality.
Deliveries of pre-orders have been postponed indefinitely (very likely for years).
Time marches on relentlessly: we are all growing older.
Many of us will most probably leave this life due to age or illness without ever seeing the E-Cat truly deployed on a global scale.
And with that will vanish the chance to witness Andrea Rossi being universally recognized as the greatest scientist in human history.
What remains is a mixture of pessimism and bitterness — the feeling that we must keep waiting who knows how much longer, perhaps in vain, for a future that continues to stay just out of reach.
Following the recent developments and waiting in anticipation, I sense that your probably very close to go public with a full demo of the installed industrial Ecat.
Simply put, a demo will not reveal that many NDA secrets but will probably boost your pre-order portfolio enormously. All depends of course that all is working correctly and as expected with the industrial plant.
Dear Dr. Rossi!
As soon as the ecat is delivered to households and various industries, there is a risk of copying (even commissioned by some national governments). The simplest way to prevent this, without lengthy and expensive lawsuits, is to grant licenses that are not too expensive, making it not worthwhile for copycats to risk legal action. Can your licensee grant such sublicenses, or does Leonardo handle that?
Best regards
W.Rudolf
Gavino Mamia:
Now I understand: this information will surely be given when the presentation will be made; I understand and empathyze your anxiety to know, and we are working to arrive to that point as soon as possible,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
In my question, I was referring to the reactor’s power and the size of its vessel. I don’t think it’s composed of multiple, isolated parts.
I was curious to know the ECAT reactor’s power in megawatts and its dimensions. I assume it’s a standard container.
Have a nice day.
I added another AI question about the pico-cluster as follows:
AI question
What are the maximum number of excitons that can form in the Rossi (pico- cluster) chain and are this number the same as the formation as the maximum number of polariton formation
AI Answer
In the theoretical framework of the Rossi Chain (specifically the E-Cat SK model describing long-range particle interactions), the maximum number of excitons in a stable cluster is approximately (100 billion).
Are the numbers the same?
Yes. In this model, the formation of polaritons is a total phase transition. The theory postulates that the entire population of electrons/excitons in the cluster hybridizes with the vacuum field to become exciton-polaritons. Therefore, the maximum number of polaritons is identical to the number of excitons (Max Particle Count (N)10^11), as they are simply different quantum states of the same particle population within the condensate.
Pursuant to chapter four of the Dr. Rossi’s theory paper, Holmlid’s ultra dense hydogen provides a seed upon which, the Pico-cluster forms. It is valuable to understand in detail how the Pico-cluster forms and what that structure looks like in detail.
Note: the AI indicates that the Holmlid/Rossi reaction is a hybrid form of superconductivity.
I beleive that you can ask the AI for additional details. I would be interested if you discover something that is of interest.
The AI prompt that generates this information is complicated but produces good detail on how the Bose Einstein condensate forms and what it looks like as follows:
Are there any substances/components used in the Ecat that it seems likely might come into short supply because of their scarcity, and therefore might foreseeably create ‘bottle necks’ in the production of ever-increasing numbers of Ecat units?
(I am not asking which components. Just whether you think there are any or not.)
Dr. Rossi
What is the power output of the first ECAT reactor you’ve assembled ?
And the external measurements?
I apologize if this has already been mentioned.
Dear Eng. Rossi,
allow me to share a short metaphor that helps me visualize a possible aspect of the issues we have been discussing.
Imagine a beautiful house with no natural water source. One day, its owner discovers a way to extract water from the humidity in the air — something previously unknown.
At first, trying to collect large amounts causes the devices to fail. Reducing expectations, a very small device finally works, producing just a glass of water. Encouraged, the owner builds many small units instead of one large one.
However, as the total amount of collected water increases, unexpected problems appear again: failures, malfunctions, unexplained instabilities.
One night, the owner realizes the analogy: like a sealed container filled with gas, any system that draws energy needs an adequate outflow, otherwise pressure builds up.
He first improves drainage into the ground: it works for a while, but soon the soil becomes saturated and the garden begins to suffer.
Then he adds another outlet — evaporation through sun-exposed surfaces — slightly relieving the system.
The lesson is simple:
the invention works, but it is delicate. Nature compensates imbalances only within certain limits. Beyond those limits, even good systems destabilize their surroundings.
Not every house has the same “ground”, and not every environment can absorb the same load. The solution, therefore, cannot be uniform, but must be carefully calibrated, limited, and adapted case by case.
I offer this image only as a practical way to think about scaling and environmental interaction, not as a theory.
Warm regards,
Camillo
Dr. Rossi
What are the implications for the
100W module when you say
“Based on the last developments, the SSM is possible only for plants with a power of megawatts”
Will the 100W module require an external power source (grid, battery, etc) in order to keep/restart SSM? Or something else?
Thanks — Sam
Prof. Neri Accornero:
Understood, yes the percentage of malfunctions are still around the 5%, which is high for a mass production; this is one of the reasons why we are afraid of a massive distribution in market areas oriented toward non professional users. Paradoxically, we are more afraid of households appliances than of 4 MW plants.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
About ” failure” a general fault that stops the 100W unit from functioning
Romina:
Correct,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Daniel G, Zavela:
Answer to your question: yes.
About the stability: the Latina test was determined to be completed in 6 hours. To certify the stability of a products are necessary tests of thousands of hours,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof. Neri Accornero:
Depends on what is intended by “failure”: can you be more precise ?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steve D:
1- Based on the last developments, the SSM is possible only for plants with a power of megawatts
2- Every Client that has sent a pre-order will be contacted to define his specific situation
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi
From recent questions by Camillo with regards to a real life environment and your answers covering earth, duty cycle, usage exceeding a certain regime and your response. Also that of Roberto “definitely easier to obtain SSM in an industrial plant”.
1) Do you think you might offer both grid free and grid bound Ecat versions to the domestic market, one to suit small portable appliances another for heavy duty, essential fixed, appliances?
2) There is an overlap in many aplications. The purchaser needs to have the right one, and they will ask for advice. Is a this dilemma?
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
Did I understand well that the higher the voltage, the higher the efficiency of the Ecat ?
Thank you if you can answer,
Romina
Dear Andrea, an awkward question if you can answer.
What failure rate (𝜆) did you achieve for the 100W NGU modules?
Neri
Dear Dr. Rossi,
Recently you gave an estimated price of $4,000 for a 1,000 W Ecat assembly.
Have you successfully tested a 1,000 W Ecat assembly?
Your 3,000 W Ecat assembly proved itself stable and robust at Latina and during the subsequent independent tests.
Best of Luck.
Best Regards,
Daniel G. Zavela
Axil:
Thank you for your research,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Now that we know some properties of both the pico-cluster and the EVO, we can apply that insight into explaining why it took Dr. Rossi 15 years to perfect the NGU.
In the long view, its been projected that it would take at least 1,000,000 years to advance energy production technology to a point where energy could be extracted from space time itself; a task that is universally considered impossible. But Rossi has done the impossible in only 15 years.
The first decade of Dr. Rossi’s 15 years long development cycle was disrupted by the destructive nature of the EVO. But rather than giving up, at about the time when the plasma based vacuum reaction and the QuarkX was invented and Dr. Rossi discovered how to tame the EVO and it destructive nature, then the more docile and controllable pico-cluster came into existence. So in reality its has taken Dr. Rossi only 5 or 6 years to perfect the plasma based vacuum reaction and direct electricity production.
Click the link to see the AI take on Dr. Rossi’s development cycle of the vacuum reaction.
This AI opinion is available publicly like a wiki entry. It expresses what the AI currently thinks of Dr. Rossi’s decades long struggle. This opinion has come a long way from the WIKI inspired shade on Dr. Rossi’s reputation.
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The Domain wall confines the particles and fields that exist inside the EVO. It is a magnetic barrier that seems to increase in strength as the energy inside the EVO increases.
There is a opening in the domain wall at least on one of the poles of the spherical wall where a 100 micron long projecting magnetic vortex exits. This is what causes strange radiation effects on the surface of material that the gyrating EVO floats over.
Click on the link to see the amazing AI analysis of this flux tube. Also the simulation of this flux tube is also great.
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Camillo:
Thank you for sharing your reflections,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
P.S.
Your comment is the # 70,000 of this blog
Axil:
Thank you for the links,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Prof. Neri Accornero,
Thank you for your suggestion, they surely will do,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea, if just one of the three parties involved in the project—the Energy Generator, the Distributor, or the Financier—were to come forward and issue a very brief statement stating that the ECAT project is underway, without any further details, it would be a crucial step in confirming your still-so-ignored invention to the world.
Neri
I have always wondered about the high magnetic fields produced by the Defkalion reactor. Dr. Kim measured a magnetic field of 1.6 tesla at 20 cm from the core of the reactor. What does this measurement imply?
I asked the AI for its opinion as follows:
similar to the pico-cluster internals, an EVO is a nucleated bubble of a domain wall constrained exciton polariton condensate comprised of 10^21 particles. Measurements of the magnetic field strength of the Defkalion system showed a magnetic field measurement of 1.6 tesla at 20 centimeter distance from the plasma. What is the magnetic field strength that is required by an EVO to produce that magnetic measurement. The EVO is a micron sized sphere that floats in a plasma. What could be the nature of the EVO that generates this field. How would the EVO affect the forces of nature: strong, and electroweak.
The answer of the AI explains why LENR is called cold fusion
Click on the link to see the AI output:
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Some new questions to the AI reveal some interesting characteristics of the NGU reaction controls.
The NGU controls the destructive nature of pico-cluster by keeping the size of that cluster small. The NGU keeps the size of the pico-cluster particles count at a maximum of 10^11 particles. This works out to produce a pico- cluster at a diameter of 0.12um. This is controlled by applying a weak magnetic field within the optical cavity of the NGU core partition.
This small size of the pico-cluster is engendered as follows:
from the AI
”External Sensitivity: Conversely, during the formation phase of the seed clusters (Ultra-Dense Hydrogen), Leif Holmlid observed that relatively weak external magnetic fields of 0.03–0.07 Tesla can disrupt the Meissner effect required to lock the Cooper pairs into place, preventing the cluster from forming at all.”
This means that a large external magnetic field can distroy the nascent pico-cluster at birth by disrupting the Ultra dense hydrogen seed from which the cluster grows.
A properly sized pico-cluster can avoid transmutation using a relatively weak external magnetic fields of between 0.03–0.07 Tesla. No external magnetic field will result in the growth of a macro cluster. or EVO comprised of a particle count of about 10^21 particles as Ken Shoulders observed in his research. The magnetic fields inside the EVO are huge, strong enough to disrupt matter in a process called transmutation.
Keeping the pico-clusters small limits the power density of the vacuum reaction. This may be why there is a 10 watt limit on NGU core power density limit.
The EVO cannot increase in size indefinably, up to the 250um diameter limit at which point it becomes unstable and is destroyed.
From the AI
”The Instability Threshold: The cluster becomes unstable not because the magnetic field weakens, but because the particle density grows too high. At the critical size of 250 microns, the internal quantum pressure (Fermi pressure + Coulomb repulsion) exceeds the tensile strength of the 1000 Tesla magnetic containment, triggering the Bosenova (collapse and explosion)”.
I asked two new questions to produce these new insights into the Rossi reaction as follows:
1 – How many exciton polaritons are required to form a pico-cluster that is 250 microns in diameter.
2 – what is the maximum magnetic field that the EVO can encompass before it becomes unstable.
The simulation of the Bosenova is worth seeing.
Click on the link below to see the last two running added questions to the AI covering the aforementioned material.
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Dear Eng. Rossi,
following your recent reply, I would like to share a purely practical reflection, inspired by my past experience as a verifier of unconventional energy-related phenomena.
In several borderline systems I had the opportunity to observe, operational issues were not primarily linked to the device itself, but rather to the interaction with the surrounding environment, particularly when energy flows were not adequately referenced to ground or when usage exceeded a certain regime.
This leads me to wonder whether, as an intermediate step before full mass deployment, a very constrained early-use scenario could be viable, for example:
installation limited to single houses with available land, allowing for a well-distributed and dimensioned grounding system;
strict limits on average power usage and duty cycle, avoiding continuous maximum operation;
clear engineering rules regarding grounding geometry and minimum surface area, as already hinted at in the past by William Reich in analogous contexts.
Such an approach would obviously limit distribution, but might allow a controlled introduction of the technology, reducing environmental side effects while gathering long-term operational data.
I fully understand that these considerations may already be part of your internal analysis; I simply wanted to share them as a user-oriented perspective.
Warm regards, Camillo
Italo R.:
I empathyze with you and understand your feeling, but I can assure everybody that the pre-orders will be delivered; my opinion is that they will start within this year, but this is an opinion, based on what I am aware of so far. I can assure all that I am doing what I can to make the waiting time as short as possible, and all of us agree on this point, compatibly with the reasons that already and many times I have explained here; please see also the answer I published here to Camillo minutes ago,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Camillo:
The issues you cited are real and the reason of the delay of mass delivering are due also to these issues, that are much easier in industrial facilities.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Worldwide, there are about 8,000 Tesla Charging sites. Tesla will likely convert their sites to use the V4 cabinets – more efficient – saves money. Each V4 cabinet can support 8 Tesla charging stalls.
Testa charging locations offer multiples of 8 charging stalls – up to 100+ stalls.
Grid support infrastructure exists to supply Grid power going to the V4 Cabinets.
Proposal:
Place NGU 1.2 MW AC Power Generators (1 or 2) at each V4 Cabinet. Use the existing Grid power cabling system to supply unused excess power to the Grid when the power is not being used by the V4 Cabinets.
The Tesla Supercharging stations already have power and date communications. Turn the Tesla site from an energy consumer to an energy source.
For example: 8,000 sites with two V4 Cabinets per site = 16,000 Cabinets. 1.2 MW per Cabinet * 16,000 Cabinets = about 20 GW of electrical power.
Do the same approach for computer data centers. They run continuously. Double the required power generation: 1/2 of the generated electrical power goes to the date center; and 1/2 of the generated power flows back to the Grid.
Thoughts?
“A V4 Tesla Supercharger cabinet (the power electronics unit) is designed to handle significantly more power than its V3 predecessor, with capacity designed to support up to 1.2 Megawatts (1,200 kW) to power up to eight, 500 kW-capable stalls.
While a single cabinet can peak at high output levels to charge vehicles at up to 500kW (for passenger cars) or 1.2MW (for Tesla Semis), the grid requirement is optimized for dynamic, shared, and efficient power distribution.
Here are the key power and electrical requirements for a V4 Cabinet:
Maximum Output Capability: Up to 1.2 MW shared across 8 stalls.
Power Density: V4 cabinets have three times the power density of V3, allowing them to deliver higher throughput with lower operational costs.
Voltage Range: The V4 system supports 400V-1000V vehicle architectures.
Grid Input Voltage: Typically, 480V 3-phase AC.
Input Amperage: The cabinet requires high-voltage 3-phase input, with early, lower-spec versions showing continuous input around 1,200–1,500 amps, depending on configuration.”
Dear Eng. Rossi,
May I ask one additional, very practical question from the perspective of a future residential user?
In the course of the system’s development and validation, have configurations equivalent to a real, inhabited apartment environment been considered or tested — meaning operation over extended periods, at kW-level aggregated power, within a standard domestic electrical installation?
More specifically, I am interested in understanding whether, under such realistic conditions, particular attention was given to aspects such as duty cycle, grounding quality (earth reference), and long-term coexistence with ordinary household electronics, and whether these factors proved relevant for stable operation.
I ask this primarily to better understand what constitutes a technically conservative and well-engineered residential use scenario.
Thank you again for your time and attention.
Kind regards,
CAmillo
Dr. Rossi,
The latest developments in the production and commercialization of the Ecat, together with the consequent and unavoidable need to maintain the strictest secrecy for security reasons, have brought about a new and heavy reality.
Deliveries of pre-orders have been postponed indefinitely (very likely for years).
Time marches on relentlessly: we are all growing older.
Many of us will most probably leave this life due to age or illness without ever seeing the E-Cat truly deployed on a global scale.
And with that will vanish the chance to witness Andrea Rossi being universally recognized as the greatest scientist in human history.
What remains is a mixture of pessimism and bitterness — the feeling that we must keep waiting who knows how much longer, perhaps in vain, for a future that continues to stay just out of reach.
Kind Regards,
Italo R.
Axil:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I asked another question of the AI as follows: How does the cluster hybridize with the vacuum field to become exciton-polaritons?
With a trillion electrons in the ultra dense hydrogen molecule, where do all the photons come from to produce the Excitons polaritons? They come from the vacuum as virtual particles via Vacuum Rabi Oscillations.
Surprisingly, The AI evaluated Dr. Rossi’s theory paper and its references which is right on the mark about how the pico-cluster becomes coherent(amazing) as follows:
Theoretical Context: The ‘Self-Cavity’
Cavity-Free Confinement: In standard experiments, mirrors are required to trap photons to achieve this coupling. In the Rossi/Holmlid model, the ultra-dense hydrogen chain itself acts as the waveguide. The extreme dielectric contrast and the collective Zitterbewegung (trembling motion) of the electrons create a “self-trapping” potential that substitutes for external mirrors. [28][24]
Role of Zitterbewegung: Coherent electron trembling generates the vector potential required for coupling.
Aharonov-Bohm Effect: Proposed mechanism for phase-locking the cluster to the vacuum potentials.
This AI answer is the last in the series within this AI response below:
Click this link to see the response and the coherence forming pico-cluster simulation.
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W.Rudolf:
This kind of decisions do not depend on me,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Harold:
I am not able to answer,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Following the recent developments and waiting in anticipation, I sense that your probably very close to go public with a full demo of the installed industrial Ecat.
Simply put, a demo will not reveal that many NDA secrets but will probably boost your pre-order portfolio enormously. All depends of course that all is working correctly and as expected with the industrial plant.
So am I right or am I wrong that a demo is close?
Kind regards,
Harold
Dear Dr. Rossi!
As soon as the ecat is delivered to households and various industries, there is a risk of copying (even commissioned by some national governments). The simplest way to prevent this, without lengthy and expensive lawsuits, is to grant licenses that are not too expensive, making it not worthwhile for copycats to risk legal action. Can your licensee grant such sublicenses, or does Leonardo handle that?
Best regards
W.Rudolf
Rudy:
Thank you for your opinion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Gavino Mamia:
Now I understand: this information will surely be given when the presentation will be made; I understand and empathyze your anxiety to know, and we are working to arrive to that point as soon as possible,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
I and my friends think there is no glogal licensees and that the Ecat NGU is bullshit.
Thank you for spamming my comment.
Rudy
In my question, I was referring to the reactor’s power and the size of its vessel. I don’t think it’s composed of multiple, isolated parts.
I was curious to know the ECAT reactor’s power in megawatts and its dimensions. I assume it’s a standard container.
Have a nice day.
Axil:
Thank you very much for your assistance by the A.I.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Please allow me to expand the interrogation of the AI so I may ask additional questions. This feature can be used by you to provide a mechanism for your own research. For example, If you don’t understand something, just ask the AI to explain.
Click on the link to see the AI questions and responses
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I added another AI question about the pico-cluster as follows:
AI question
What are the maximum number of excitons that can form in the Rossi (pico- cluster) chain and are this number the same as the formation as the maximum number of polariton formation
AI Answer
In the theoretical framework of the Rossi Chain (specifically the E-Cat SK model describing long-range particle interactions), the maximum number of excitons in a stable cluster is approximately (100 billion).
Are the numbers the same?
Yes. In this model, the formation of polaritons is a total phase transition. The theory postulates that the entire population of electrons/excitons in the cluster hybridizes with the vacuum field to become exciton-polaritons. Therefore, the maximum number of polaritons is identical to the number of excitons (Max Particle Count (N)10^11), as they are simply different quantum states of the same particle population within the condensate.
Pursuant to chapter four of the Dr. Rossi’s theory paper, Holmlid’s ultra dense hydogen provides a seed upon which, the Pico-cluster forms. It is valuable to understand in detail how the Pico-cluster forms and what that structure looks like in detail.
Note: the AI indicates that the Holmlid/Rossi reaction is a hybrid form of superconductivity.
I beleive that you can ask the AI for additional details. I would be interested if you discover something that is of interest.
The AI prompt that generates this information is complicated but produces good detail on how the Bose Einstein condensate forms and what it looks like as follows:
Click on the link to activate the AI.
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Gavino Mamia:
What do you mean with “external measurements” ?
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Rodney Nicholson:
No,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Andrea:
Regarding my: 2026-01-26 23:26 Rodney Nicholson:
Are there any substances/components used in the Ecat that it seems likely might come into short supply because of their scarcity, and therefore might foreseeably create ‘bottle necks’ in the production of ever-increasing numbers of Ecat units?
(I am not asking which components. Just whether you think there are any or not.)
Warm regards,
Rodney.
Dr. Rossi
What is the power output of the first ECAT reactor you’ve assembled ?
And the external measurements?
I apologize if this has already been mentioned.
Dr Rossi
Your global licensee is absolutely right with his low profile strategy, Time will confirm it,
All the best,
Arnoldo
Nils Fryklund:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
Do you think the public will see a picture of the first Mwatt plant ?
A fan in sixteen year.
Nils fryklund
Jean Paul Renoir,
Thank you for your opinion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.